/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.12020676]

The first human who had cow milk was sure a ballsy motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.12020679]

>>12020676
Maybe he was just really really thirsty

[Anonymous No.12020690]

>>12020679
Maybe he thought those were cocks

[Anonymous No.12020694]

>>12020676
Oh I imagine it came well after we'd begun to herd them for meat

Realized perhaps there was more milk than was being used by the calf and put two and two together

[Anonymous No.12020712]

The first human to have cow milk probably had it from a cow that was dead.
I doubt any part of the animal went to waste back when you had to hunt it with a rock.

[Anonymous No.12020751]

>>12020712
>Europeans sample everything from a dead cow
>End up drinking milk from the udder
>Indians sample everything from a dead cow
>Drink from bladder instead

[Anonymous No.12020752]

>>12020690
so he was european

[Anonymous No.12020773]

>>12020752
bit rude

[Anonymous No.12020779]

>>12020676

Hunger and desperation does funny things to the human mind.

Drinking milk from a cows udder is relatively tame compared to some of the trial-and-error and other outright outrageous things humans have done out of curiosity or from duress.

[Anonymous No.12020885]

>>12020779
>be hungry cave dweller
>be too beta to hunt
>go pick berries with the womenfolk
>find some curious mushrooms
>bring them to the cave for dinner
>everybody eats some of the mushrooms
>suddenly see the divine

[Anonymous No.12020940]

"Fuck it. I'm going to suck on these cow udders like the animal I am"
The dude probably had it rough that day

[Anonymous No.12021005]

>>12020885
like imagine the first person who picked up psilo mushrooms, they surely must have thought of them as holy

and imagine how the trip would've been to a primitive man. the fact that such a large part of human prehistory is basically unknowable makes me so sad

[Anonymous No.12021017]

>>12020676
>The first human who had cow milk was sure a ballsy motherfucker.

Forcing a Human woman to lactate on demand just so you can eat is basically the equivalent of indentured servitude, and not far from slavery.

[Anonymous No.12021045]

>>12021017
>Forcing a Human woman to lactate on demand just so you can eat
That's the point. the idea of an adult human drinking milk had to be radical at the time

[Anonymous No.12021048]

>>12021017
>Forcing a Human woman to lactate on demand just so you can eat is basically the equivalent of indentured servitude, and not far from slavery.

Is this what American vegans actually believe?

[Anonymous No.12021063]

>>12021048
Yeah it is

>t. ex vegan

[Anonymous No.12021065]

>>12021005
All religions and spirituality pretty much come from shamanic psychedelic usage in the stone age, or even before. Look up the Stoned Ape theory.

>the fact that such a large part of human prehistory is basically unknowable makes me so sad

I also think about this from time to time, I just wanna know what kind of stories they used to tell, what the first words and songs were, who their heroes and legends were. Goddamn man, it's all so beautifully lost to the sands of time.

[Anonymous No.12021073]

>>12021045
They were probably killed for their "heresy", like the first ones to talk, sing, use stone tools, wear clothes, draw on cave walls, etc.

[Anonymous No.12021086]

>>12021045
People made sausages out of the blood.
Sipping a wee bit of cow's milk is quite tame in comparison.

[Anonymous No.12021090]

Think about all the people who died in the past testing foods for edibility.

[Anonymous No.12021098]

>>12021017

Didn't the guy in Mad Max Fury Road do that? He kept a bunch of women and milked them like cows

[Anonymous No.12021113]

Why would it take balls? Cows are docile and exhibit no natural signs of being poisonous. It’d be safer to try and milk a cow than eat an unknown berry.

[Anonymous No.12021130]

>>12020676
the first cows to be milked would have been wild ox's which is even more ballsy. I don't even know how you would get close enough to milk a wild ox without getting your teeth kicked through your ass. also hence why milk is unnatural, humans would have never had access to milk before domestication of animals, we have existed a much longer time without consuming milk than we have with, milk is full of natural hormones meant for calves to grow into huge beasts which does fuck knows what to humans, some of the healthiest people on earth are Japanese and guess what they don't consume a lot of if at all, dairy. Greeks are also very health and again their dairy consumption is limited. not that dairy is the cause of all evil but it's not great.

[Anonymous No.12021136]

>>12021113
Domestic cows are docile.

[Anonymous No.12021139]

>>12021098
The Brap Barn

[Anonymous No.12021140]

>>12021113
Dude, cows weren't always domesticated, they were wild animals once.

[Anonymous No.12021142]

>>12021130
>the first cows to be milked would have been wild ox's
Probably not. Animals were being domesticated before milk consumption started.

>also hence why milk is unnatural
Unnatural does not mean bad. Certain groups of people thrived on milk.

>some of the healthiest people on earth are Japanese and guess what they don't consume a lot of if at all, dairy.
That doesn't mean lack of dairy consumption is why they're healthier. They're also more physically active and less likely to be overweight.

[Anonymous No.12021148]

>>12020779

[Anonymous No.12021149]

>>12021142
>Probably not. Animals were being domesticated before milk consumption started.
Also milk consumption probably became a benefit to people with dairy animals because it meant they could get something that's almost equivalent to meat without having to kill the animal. You could make cheese and get rid of the lactose, but that's still lost calories. It was a good step in the human-animal relationship as it meant less killing and it's probably why cultures that revolved around dairy sometimes seem to have more respect for animals, because they aren't just something to be killed and eaten.

[Anonymous No.12021155]

>>12021130
I feel like consuming dairy daily may have jump-started puberty for me. I had a full bush at 12, yet can't grow a beard at 22.

[Anonymous No.12021170]

>>12021155
Getting enough calories is why people today start puberty earlier, but how well you can grow a beard is mostly due to genetics I think. There are groups of people who just never grow a beard, I think it's more common among Africans and Native Americans.

[Anonymous No.12021176]

>>12021140
So you’re just gonna go ahead and ignore all the people who pointed out that dairy consumption developed after domestication did, huh?

[Anonymous No.12021185]

>>12021142
>Unnatural does not mean bad. Certain groups of people thrived on milk.

Just because you can thrive on something doesn't mean it's not also causing long term health issues. Constantly bombarding your body with hormones designed to stimulate growth in a different species may not have short term repercussions but neither does eating a shitload of sugar, it isn't until later after constant over consumption that you develop diabetes. perhaps there is a link between long term consumption of dairy and various illnesses, cancer being one of them.


>That doesn't mean lack of dairy consumption is why they're healthier. They're also more physically active and less likely to be overweight.

It doesn't mean it's not the lack of dairy consumption either, there is probably a lot of factors why they're overall healthier than other nations, not just limited to diet but diet almost certainly plays a role and you have to start looking at the differences in their diets compared to the west and one of those differences is the lack of dairy. It's not the only difference but it's one of.

[Anonymous No.12021194]

>>12021185
>Constantly bombarding your body with hormones designed to stimulate growth
Does milk have more hormones than meat? I'm pretty sure the high calorie content in liquid form is just what makes calves grow quickly, not sure why you're attributing it to hormones.

[Anonymous No.12021195]

>>12021176
He can do that if you can ignore >>12020712

[Anonymous No.12021218]

>>12021176
The guy that "confirmed" that posted after me.

[Anonymous No.12021241]

>>12021194
milk contains bovine growth hormone, just like human breast milk contains human growth hormone. cow milk also contains igf-1 as well as some testosterone and estrogen.

If there was a way to filter milk and keep all of the fat, protein and carbs but remove all of the hormones then i'd be all for milk consumption but I don't know if that's even possible or feasible, it's obviously cheaper just to bottle and sell it as is and adding another filtration step would increase the price. milk has pretty good nutrition, i just don't trust drinking the milk of another species is great for your health when the intended purpose of that milk existing in the first place is to support rapid growth of a developing calf. calves and humans are obliviously not the same, we have different hormonal requirements. the nutrition is good in terms of plenty of calories to support growth, but the hormones exist to promote growth in different areas at different rates, so fuck knows what happens long term when a human has been ingesting bovine growth hormone for years, what kind of effect does that have, hormonal changes whether natural or unnatural have long been implicated in certain cancers.

[Anonymous No.12021253]

>>12020676
I'm sure it started in the paleolithic when someone killed a bison cow or some other large mammal that was lactating, drank what was in the udder and declared it good. Also the Masai tribe of Kenya literally thrived off of nothing but cattle blood and milk.

[Anonymous No.12022077]

>>12020676
No, that would be the first human to have cheese.

[Anonymous No.12022168]

>>12021130
>milk is unnatural
So is McChicken.

[Anonymous No.12022183]

>>12020676
why are you assuming it was cow milk? maybe we started driinking goat milk and moved to cow later on

[Anonymous No.12022189]

>>12021017
so babies are slave owners?

[Anonymous No.12022858]

>"Hm, this cow produces nourishment for its young, like every other mammal I am aware of, including humans."
And then he drank the milk.

[Anonymous No.12023958]

>>12022858
But he was a grown ass man.not a baby

[Anonymous No.12024178]

>>12020676
I like to think he was a massive pervert with lactation fetish, and the only reason we drink milk is because his friends saw him sucking a cows tit and he said how milk is delicious and nutritious.

[Anonymous No.12024194]

>>12022189
According to some people they are parasitic growths that should be killed.
But I'm sure at least the white male babies are also considered slave owners, yeah.

[Anonymous No.12024201]

>>12021241
bgh does nothing to humans though, ere not bovine

[Anonymous No.12024204]

>>12024201
[insert tedious mom joke]

[Anonymous No.12024216]

>>12024204
jokes on you, i love cow girls are my fetish

[Anonymous No.12024243]

I guess it went like this
Guy saw cow giving milkers to her little creatures
He obviously thought "god I wish that were me" and "MOMMY!"
And one day he went for it

[Anonymous No.12024289]

>>12024243

[Anonymous No.12024302]

>>12024243
fucking furfags i swear

[Anonymous No.12024886]

>>12024178
>>12024243
I won't be surprised that we as humans are consuming milk because of a degenerate perv

[Anonymous No.12024982]

>>12021065
You know what's crazy? Early hominids like Homo Erectus lived and went extinct in a time frame that spanned from more than two million years ago to less than eleven thousand years ago That wonderful history has been almost entirely lost.

[Anonymous No.12025028]

>>12020676
Underrated Pink Floyd album

[Anonymous No.12025038]

Probably saw a calf sucking away, what i wanna know is how did we figure out women had milk in there tits and how did we find it was best for babies?

[Anonymous No.12025092]

>>12020676
not really, it stands to reason after all

[Anonymous No.12025841]

>>12020676
>let's drink milk from this four legged animal with powerful legs!
>let's make the milk into cheese by leaving it
>let's make the cheese taste even better by making it rot

[Anonymous No.12025853]

>>12025038
>what i wanna know is how did we figure out women had milk in there tits and how did we find it was best for babies?
It probably just carried over as a natural instinct. It's not like every single thing had to be learned from nothing as humans evolved.