/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.12147654]

Why haven't you taken the vegan pill yet?

[Anonymous No.12147669]

>>12147654
I'm 100% down to generally eat fewer animal products but I'll never stop

[Anonymous No.12147689]

I do not agree with the viewpoints of veganism on the topic of animals

[Anonymous No.12147700]

>>12147654
That looks disgusting and a meal fit for a pig

[Anonymous No.12147710]

>>12147654
is lab-grown meat vegan? a company claims to no longer need the calf serum.

[Anonymous No.12147713]

[Anonymous No.12147740]

>>12147713
based wyattposter

[Anonymous No.12147743]

Is that just hashbrowns and tomato?
Surely vegan doesn't mean you have to eat a babies afternoon snack for every meal

[Anonymous No.12147762]

>>12147654
I love meat and will never stop eating it. The less meat vegans eat the more I will eat.

[Anonymous No.12147769]

I'm not a woman.

[Anonymous No.12147779]

>>12147743
haha

[Anonymous No.12148006]

>>12147654
As a non-vegan I have access to most of the best meals in the world which vegans will never be able to even imitate well.

[Anonymous No.12148011]

>>12147762
Based, I need to start telling them that I'll eat more meat in their stead

[Anonymous No.12148021]

>>12147654
i've tried but i'm way too much of a meat addict to possibly give it up

[Anonymous No.12148042]

>>12148021
So not only are you a faggot for wanting to give up meat, you're also a low-willpower faggot for being incapable.

[Anonymous No.12148046]

I may need to switch to animal products only on sundays 365-lent because of financial prospects.

>>12147743
>hash browns

Or friend rice dumplings?

[Anonymous No.12148076]

>>12147654
you can't replace egg

[Anonymous No.12148087]

>>12147654
OP image look so fucking gross lol.

[Anonymous No.12148088]

>>12147669
I think this is my view too. In college, I did a stint of vegetarianism but it made me sick. I think balance and restraint are key but I’ll never not be a murderer bloodthirsty psycho from the vegan crowd, so really, they’re still my enemies, even though if they had some amount of sense, they’d see me as a potential ally. Too bad they have no such sense.

[Anonymous No.12148095]

>>12148088
It's become a little more common for vegans to say they should push for a reduction in consumption compared to telling people it's all or nothing. But the ones who follow that line of thinking aren't going to be going around preaching and acting as fanatically, so you don't hear about them too much. The worst fanatics are usually the most vocal but you shouldn't judge an entire group on them.

[Anonymous No.12148099]

>>12147654
i tried non dairy vegetarianism a bit and honestly i felt good for the few months i kept at it but at some point it became hard to find food. all the vegetarian food you can get around my office was pretty boring and gets tiresome after a while. not to mention expensive. and i wasn't about to cook at home every evening so i just decided to say fuck it.

this was years later, i'm a lot better at cooking now so it might be worth a try. previously the only thing i can think to make on the weekend was just veggie stew or bean/lentil stew but fuck eating that for a whole week.

[Anonymous No.12148100]

>>12148099
>this was years later
years ago. it's years later now

[Anonymous No.12148101]

>>12147654
most of the shit people consider food these days is already vegan-approved. to take the vegan pill is to to forfeit the tiny bit of real nutrition from animal products you might be getting.

[Anonymous No.12148108]

>>12148100
Who the fuck are you? The Grand Vegan Inquisitor or the “yeah that was long ago, you should eat brisket every meal” guy?

[Anonymous No.12148110]

>>12148108
never reply to me again schizo

[Anonymous No.12148118]

>>12148110
low key low key you should really get to know me

[Anonymous No.12148459]

>>12148006
As a vegan I'm literally better than you morally, ethically, environmentally, and politically.

[Anonymous No.12148467]

>>12147654
I like having teeth. Also I'm not mentally disabled.

[Anonymous No.12148481]

>>12148006
This. Im not going on a made up moral crusade so I can get a warm fuzzy when I can instead get that warm fuzzy from braised lamb neck.

[Anonymous No.12148484]

>>12147654
my body starts suffering from under nourishment very easily, it has some adverse effects on my psyche which i would prefer not to go through.

besides vegan food is way too expensive and arduous for me.

[Anonymous No.12149046]

>>12148467
>one of three proof by examples
>never posts facts, just namecalling
>16 hours per day of antivegan posting
Lmao imagine being this big of a loser

[Anonymous No.12149059]

>>12148467
I'm not a vegan but that dude lost his tooth after getting hit in the mouth with a hockey stick. Why do you constantly spam this shit? Are you actually a vegan trying to make anti-vegans look retarded?

[Anonymous No.12149098]

I have. I just their fine recopies to serve as a side to my main meat dish.

[Anonymous No.12150425]

>>12149059
why are so many vegans hockey players? is it the vitamin deficiency? or does a constant diet of poutine make even veganism look attractive?

[bruce No.12150463]

>>12147654
I like meat and don't see a reason to go vegan.

[Anonymous No.12150470]

>>12147654
ketchup is not vegan

[Anonymous No.12150473]

>>12150425
>why are so many vegans hockey players?
are you a chatbot?

[Anonymous No.12150474]

>>12147654
I want to continue to enjoy food.

[Anonymous No.12150520]

>>12147654
People who cut tomatoes like that are fags.

[Anonymous No.12150545]

>>12150473
It's the same anti-vegan bot that got called out for posting the page of fake studies in every vegan thread, so it switched tactics and now goes for fake vegan photos of missing teeth. I mean surely, this guy is a vegan right?

[Anonymous No.12150586]

>>12147654
Because I like eating meat, and don't particularly care about animal welfare.

[Anonymous No.12150612]

>>12150545
why are so many hockey players vegans? is it the brain damage, or do they just enjoy the danger that comes from a woefully incomplete diet?

[Anonymous No.12150664]

>>12148484
>my body starts suffering
most people do. some are just too stupid to admit it, and some take perverse pleasure in it as a sort of human sacrifice to gaia.

[Anonymous No.12150712]

I could go without milk or meat, but not without eggs and fish.

Maybe also hen, because of those eggs, but pic related fuckers are more valuable market than humans, so broiler is all that is on the corporate approved human fodder menu.

[Anonymous No.12151002]

>>12148459
>ethically

Ethics/morals are made by humans. Humans decide right and wrong for the better of society. Since humans are the absolute masters of right and wrong, and since most humans eat meat, eating meat is a-okay.

>environmentally

Importing avocados from Peru and Peanuts from S. Africa to meet your needs aint green faggot

>politically

Wtf?

[Anonymous No.12151053]

>>12150473
>>12150545
It’s a bona fide shill. Ever since global warming and that “green new deal” started getting talked about, we’ve been getting very similar repetitive, low-quality posts trying to push anti-transit/pro-car crap on /n/.

[Anonymous No.12151057]

>>12150612
This just in: as women get older they become unattractive!

[Anonymous No.12151060]

>>12150612
I sure she'd be just as disgustingly ugly if she wore the same makeup, wore her hair down and had the same lighting

[Anonymous No.12151109]

>>12147710
yes but vegans have spent 25 years talking about how meat gives you cancer so they will split into two sects.

[Anonymous No.12151144]

>>12151057
must have been a really rough five years

[Anonymous No.12151162]

>>12151002
The environment decides what's right and wrong and the punishment we are starting to receive for being wrong will only get more brutal. Whatever manipulation of nature humans attempt, the negative repurcussions spread like the concentric circles formed when a rock is thrown into a pond. ;_;

[Anonymous No.12151454]

>>12147654
I’m a recovering vegan
True story
Got 2 grills now. Life is good

[Anonymous No.12151781]

>>12151162
If you commit double murder, how does the environment, the arbiter of morality, punish you for this crime? By having the environment be the judge you must accept that murder is moral if the environment does not punish it, or that the environment does not enforce it's rules, and is therefore a negligible ruler. Or, the environment does not determine morality.

[Anonymous No.12151813]

>>12147654
I'm not a white supremacist.

[Anonymous No.12151827]

>>12149059
>move along, just another hockey playing vegan

[Anonymous No.12152180]

>>12151813
WTF I love vegans now

[Anonymous No.12152683]

Going vegan is the best thing I ever did. Good for your health and its the best thing you can do for the environment. :)

[Anonymous No.12152694]

>>12147654
OP, my dog's shit looks better than that meal

[Anonymous No.12152768]

I am a vegetarian, maybe eventually I would like to go vegan. The vegetarian community is a lot nicer to be around in any case, and with vegetarians there are less retards and eating disordered people making everyone else looks bad. That said, I love cheese and will have a hard time giving it up.

[Anonymous No.12153620]

>>12151827
>3 proof by examples
>no logical arguments
>very poor language, probable low IQ
your brain on meat

[Anonymous No.12153757]

>>12151827
thats unfair, not all vegans are hockey players. Hockey requires actual balls to play.

[Anonymous No.12153774]

>>12153620
Is that the fish eating vegan, or one of the other famous meat eating vegans?

[Anonymous No.12153796]

>>12147654

[Anonymous No.12154246]

>>12153796
Soylent fueled, passive-aggressive post but also true.

[Anonymous No.12155713]

>>12151781
commit double homicide, next guy does too, and the next, and so on. No humans left soon, and thus you've been judged/punished

[Anonymous No.12156166]

>>12155713
That's possible. Can you demonstrate that it is probable? Also, the environment hasn't punished you. The humans that committed the other murders punished you.

[Anonymous No.12156185]

>>12153774
different lady

[Anonymous No.12156237]

>>12151162
holy shit this was the most retarded shit I read in while

[Anonymous No.12156246]

>>12147654
if god didnt want us to eat meat he wouldn't have invented propane

[Anonymous No.12156248]

>>12152683
>best thing
I mean, unironically best you could do would be to kys, literally

[Anonymous No.12156263]

>>12155713
>commit double homicide, next guy does too
except that's not how it works you fucking retard, even before we had written laws we didn't go randomly killing each other for no reason, even if the reasons were stupid they were present, and still nature doesn't give a fucking shit if we kill each other off or not (in the case that you scenario actually somehow happens), seriously go get a dictionary first to know what the words you use, and maybe a book on critical thinking and logical thought because all your arguments were retarded assumption and hypothetical situations based on fucking nothing

[Anonymous No.12156286]

>>12148006
a lot of vegans don't actually eat any faux-meat/meat replacement garbage that's just soy and oil. i've never really enjoyed eating meat that much and I can be perfectly happy without it

[Anonymous No.12156335]

>>12147654

Because I have no moral qualms with eating meat. And because I believe veganism is more akin to a faddish purity-signal than a legitimate, long term diet with nutritional viability.

I can respect vegetarianism (Especially for health reasons), but not its nuttier cousin.

[Anonymous No.12156358]

>>12156166
>>12156263
the humans are part of the environment. you guys high?

it's not about it happening or not. The idea that it could happen is the reason it doesn't. You won't murder people if you realize the implications

[Anonymous No.12156384]

>>12156358
can you try to like retype that in a way that makes sense?
>the humans are part of the environment
here we go again, first it was nature punishing, now what, the environment? use the dictionary
>The idea that it could happen is the reason it doesn't. You won't murder people if you realize the implications
so your argument is what, that we not killing each other all the time and finding it wrong is nature's way of punishing us, or what, like seriously try to use more than five words in your sentences, especially if you're going to argue a point, bonus point if actually try to make a specific statement and not ask me if I'm high

[Anonymous No.12156437]

>>12156384
The point is that ethics are not "made by humans". They're simply logical conclusions that help our species survive. We don't kill each other, because that could result in all of us dying, and that does not help us. Your ideas of good and bad are just constructs to help you understand this.

[Anonymous No.12156504]

>>12156437
but that's exactly where you;re wrong anon, ethics and morals are not shit that by definition means it helps you survive, shit there's literally cultures on this planet that practice voluntary suicide (no I don't mean the japs), there's a shitload of cultures that despite what many people say ( that they're based on allegories and principles like don't kill or steal) still have a shitload of other harmful stuff in them, and also the reason while still technically being "this is good for you" is still based on made up shit ( I'm referring to religious dogmas, not all of course) but still, point being a lot of ethics and moral are not based on any sort of actual logic other than "I think what I read here is true, and it says I shouldn't do stuff or else punishment, therefore I'll do what it says" which is technically a logically sound statement, but the premise is based on assumption without proof

also, your argument is based on the assumption that somehow nature naturally pushes us towards morals
>The point is that ethics are not "made by humans"
I'm referring to this, which it doesn't, if you actually understand anything about biology is that nature just throws a shitload of shit at the canvas and sees what stick, nature has no obligation to any living organism on here, shit it doesn't have any obligations to non living shit even, let alone complex organisms, your point here is based on the assumption that somehow there's a point to this and that nature decided that we're going to get to the bottom of it, not only did it decide that, but also it decided that we were the ones that need to do so, which is also very unlikely

[Anonymous No.12156657]

>>12156504
>point being a lot of ethics and moral are not based on any sort of actual logic other than "I think what I read here is true, and it says I shouldn't do stuff or else punishment, therefore I'll do what it says" which is technically a logically sound statement, but the premise is based on assumption without proof
but the what "it" says is derived from the logic I described earlier, about the homicides. "It" (laws and ethics) is just there to push people toward doing the logical thing.
>also, your argument is based on the assumption that somehow nature naturally pushes us towards morals
I am saying that morals come from logic, but I'm not saying that we're being pushed toward them. Hence people still kill cows for food, even though it's wrong. It's people who push us toward them.

>I'm referring to this, which it doesn't, if you actually understand anything about bio...
the very existence of the universe is unlikely. that doesn't mean anything.

[Anonymous No.12156665]

>>12156657
>(laws and ethics)
just the laws (which derive from ethics)*

[Anonymous No.12156676]

>>12147654

I have tried vegan and vegetarian foods multiple times from multiple cooks and they have always tasted worse than even mediocre meat-based food.

[Anonymous No.12156700]

>>12156246
Underrated post

[Anonymous No.12156731]

>>12156676
you might be a tastelet. sorry for your loss

[Anonymous No.12156799]

>>12156657
but that "it" also says to kill a man if he works on a sunday in some cases, that was my point, there's common sense in it, but the moral aren't inherently beneficial, since if we take your argument about people killing people to extinction, then following that moral we'd have to stone every one to death, and that would not be beneficial but it would be morally accepted
>I am saying that morals come from logic, but I'm not saying that we're being pushed toward them. Hence people still kill cows for food, even though it's wrong. It's people who push us toward them.
but that's just it, it isn't wrong, hell even killing other people isn't wrong, there is no absolute in nature that tells you you can't kill your own, let alone other species ( see cannibals, and a shit ton of species that kill each other's off spring, hell sometimes even their own( which if you look at it even from a purely survival stand point, not moral, the even that isn't beneficial, yet it's something those animals do naturally))
>the very existence of the universe is unlikely. that doesn't mean anything.
I'm assuming you're saying this in relation to me saying the universe chose us, but the universe does exist, whether you define it with the scientific explanation, or you think we're on a flat earth, or whatever, it exists, this goes back to that french fuck, you know, "I think therefore I am" and if you are, you have to be somewhere

[Anonymous No.12156850]

>>12156799
What is morally accepted changes, sure. I've never claimed otherwise.

Right now killing cows is morally dubious, so vegans are more ethical. Morals are not invented out of thin air. Situation changes as we learn more about what's around us, so the logic behind what's morally acceptable changes as well.

If you were stuck on an island with someone, and the only way for one of you to survive was cannibalism, then that would be totally ethical. The underlying theme is that, what advances your odds of survival the most, is ethical. And killing other beings, like cows, doesn't help. Quite the opposite.

[Anonymous No.12156861]

I might adopt a plant based diet, but I sure as hell won't label myself a vegan

[Anonymous No.12156872]

>>12147654
Does this pic trigger you? Is it rape of your vegan eyes?

[Anonymous No.12156884]

>>12156861
That's harder than you imagine.
>anon, you didn't order meat?
>y-yeah, I don't really eat meat
>you a vegan ?? oh my god anon is vegan

that's the summary of every interaction, with some parts about dairy redacted.

[Anonymous No.12156905]

>>12156850
>Right now killing cows is morally dubious, so vegans are more ethical.
that's the part that I find wrong
>And killing other beings, like cows, doesn't help. Quite the opposite.
that's untrue, since now, going back to the point about veganism and not the point of whether morals are given to us by nature itself, if you substitute modern day animal farming for modern day plant production, it's still detrimental to the environment, in order to even sustain yourself on a vegan diet you have to rely on a shitload of modern BS, literally the best thing you can do is have your own garden and raise your own animals, since all the shit that would require for you to sustain yourself of anything based on modern day mass production is detrimental to both the survival of the eco system and you as an individual

[Anonymous No.12156911]

>>12156884
>interaction

jokes on you. I haven't spoken to an irl person for 7 months

[Anonymous No.12156919]

>>12156905
but that's not right. 80% of farm land is dedicated to shit that goes to animals in the first place.

veganism>rest. there's just no place for arguing there. Go google search or something.

[Anonymous No.12156926]

Surprised this thread isn't full of those pics of heavily roided vegans as an attempt at trying to prove that vegans aren't malnourished

[Anonymous No.12156928]

>>12156911
>7 months
well, it's like 2 for me. Much, much longer if you count out family members. Still, had to go through that with them. Awkward as fuck.

[Anonymous No.12156951]

>>12156919
now you're just being disingenuous
>but that's not right. 80% of farm land is dedicated to shit that goes to animals in the first place.
yes, but if the world would to substitute meat for veggies and fruit, that land would go to production of shit needed for sustaining humans, which takes more care, energy and a bigger toll on the soil, not to mention more pesticides killing insects and fungi in the soil, leading to detrimental effect for other plants not used for food, and soil erosion
>veganism>rest. there's just no place for arguing there
except it isn't, and there is, that's my whole point self sustaining and self produced shit is bigger than anything else, you just need to gtfo you apartment, and stop trying to make shit like cities of 20mil ppl look sustainable, it's not, veganism does not address that part of the problem, all it does is tell you if you don't eat meat, somehow everything else will be ok
>Go google search or something.
hur dur, just google it
that was literally not an argument, and the dumbest shit you said

[Anonymous No.12156972]

>>12156951
you just went full carnie. If you choose to ignore the facts, then why are we even arguing? You're trying to say that meat production is somehow better than no meat production. And with 0 proof, too, whereas there's plenty of data to support the contrary. kys.

[Anonymous No.12156977]

Where do all of these vegans live, I've only ever met one in my life, and that was like in 2003.

>be me
>hanging out with my older brother and a couple buds at a park
>bbqin'
>drinkin some cold ones (even though it was against park rules, nary a fuck was given)
>one of the buds calls another bud to come hang out as we had plenty of food and beer
>he arrives with a tag-along
>it's his gf
>his gf is one of those 'dress in all black, black Ramones shirt, black jeans, black Chuck Taylor's, black nail polish hipsters
>whatever
>grillin them burgers
>time to plate up
>we all make a plate
>except bud who came with his hipster gf
>they both eat plain buns
>friend with hipster gf gives us the "ffs help me guys" face
>hipster gf watches in disgust as we sink our teeth in juicy meat

Never ever seen one in the wild ever again, why is that? I shop regularly, I never see anyone with shopping carts full of veggies and fruit...

[Anonymous No.12156982]

>>12156972
I'm not even going to try to argue, since you're clearly a moron, and clearly not that anon

[Anonymous No.12156989]

>>12156977
Vegans are pretty much just girls who live off french fries and chips.

[Anonymous No.12157005]

contrary to popular belief, shipping vegetables to substitute cheese and meat from across the globe isn't actually good for the environment
odd, huh?

if you cared, you'd be vegetarian, but i guess that you don't get special internet points for that
whatever, keep on destroying ecosystems by shipping in avocados because eggs aren't good enough for you, cunts

[Anonymous No.12157007]

>>12156977
you should look for the ones with no dairy/meat, instead. Easier tell.

[Anonymous No.12157013]

>>12157005
I believe the dairy industry is the worst, when it comes to animals. And the problem isn't not eating cheese, is it? It's eating fruit from across the globe.

[Anonymous No.12157033]

>>12157013
well, yes but if you're vegan you literally can't sustain yourself unless you eat shit from around the world, and for the fags that bring animal suffering, shit ha;f your fruits and kashus and other shit being picked by kids and people that get paid 3 cents and hour

[Anonymous No.12157056]

>>12157033
well, that's just a /pol/ generalization, but I get the point. I'd still take those vegan types over dairy consumers/vegetarians, just for the sake of the animals. The child labour is a different beast.

[Anonymous No.12157069]

>>12157056
but you're literally saying that you care more about animals than humans, and also as I said to that other anon above, not everything needs to come from modern day manufacturing, that's the whole point both sides are missing

[Anonymous No.12157088]

>>12157069
> you're literally saying that you care more about animals than humans
Not really. Eating dairy won't help anyone. Things need to change to get better.
>not everything needs to come from modern day manufacturing
but it does. that line of arguments is in the "0.5% of climate scientists deny climate change, therefore it's a hoax" bin.

[Anonymous No.12157108]

>>12157088
>Eating dairy won't help anyone.
not in itself, that was never my point, just like eating plants won't in itself help anything
>but it does. that line of arguments is in the "0.5% of climate scientists deny climate change, therefore it's a hoax" bin
what?
>but it does
no it fucking doesn't, get out of your urban hellhole and grow and raise your own shit
>that line of arguments is in the "0.5% of climate scientists deny climate change, therefore it's a hoax"
again, what? it's not

[Anonymous No.12157211]

>>12147700
No. Even pigs have standards.

[Anonymous No.12157223]

>>12147654
Because vegan foods taste terrible, don't provide anywhere near the nutrients I need such as the vitamins and minerals that I get from meat, and - probably most importantly - I enjoy eating animal products.

[Anonymous No.12157239]

>>12147654
Because my aunt tried going vegan, and started developing brain damage due to improper nutrition. According to the doctor, her vegan diet was literally making her retarded. I wish I was making this up. She was a nice person. I miss her.

[Anonymous No.12157256]

>>12156850
>vegans claim killing cows is morally dubious, to make vegans seem more ethical
FTFY
Next time dont be so credulous when someone tries to pull the wool over you.

[Anonymous No.12157266]

>>12147654
Animals taste better

[Anonymous No.12157270]

>>12156977
There's one at my office. She looks like a zombie, flaking skin, dead eyes, the works. Of course she's absolutely certain that we're all jealous of her "health". Utterly delusional.

[Anonymous No.12157273]

>>12147669
Same. I don't eat much meat bit I won't give up what little I do eat.

[Anonymous No.12158607]

>>12147669
>>12157273
This is where I'm at right now
>skip out on purchasing bacon much more
>sometimes when I would prepare nachos, skip out on the steak/chicken and focus on Guac/Cheese instead
>Aim for meat free foods sometimes like 7 Layer bean dip
I'll never be able to go Vegan though, dairy products and eggs are amazing.

[Anonymous No.12158625]

>>12147654
I have. And graduated to whole food vegan. The rest of my family is fat so I had to make friends to do stuff with.

[Anonymous No.12158637]

>>12147654
That dish has 2 grams of protein, that’s why

[Anonymous No.12158643]

I'm a vegetarian Cheese-Chad.

[Anonymous No.12158657]

>>12148006
Given the number of images uploaded here most omnivores still only eat shit though.

[Anonymous No.12158690]

because they also include not eating any animal products, which is kinda retarded
like sure, killing other animals is hardly justifiable and factory farming is pretty fucked, but I don't see what's so bad about establishing a healthy relationship with a animal in exchange for some of their animal products

and vegans are totally fine with owning dogs apparently

[Anonymous No.12158837]

>>12158657
>retards don't eat like they should
wew, guess all those vegans munching on fucking french fries and oreos every day don't eat shit, huh?

[Anonymous No.12158892]

>>12147654
Because I like things that taste good.

[Anonymous No.12159282]

Reminder that dairy has actual estrogen and gives you man tits while soy has phytoestrogens which actually block you from getting extra estrogen.

[Anonymous No.12159286]

>>12159282
reminder, you're retarded

[Anonymous No.12159305]

>>12159286
reminder you'll be a woman in no time.

[Anonymous No.12159440]

>>12147713
Looks like your average vegan to me...

[Anonymous No.12159452]

>>12151057
With veganism this seems to happen insanely fast bro. Vegans are in a hurry to leave this Earth. Bye!

[Anonymous No.12159513]

>>12158607
if you're passing on bacon you may as well go the rest of the way. that's the hardest part.

[Anonymous No.12159519]

>>12158690
>killing other animals is hardly justifiable
stop spewing shit. it's the circle of life, all creatures do this. humans are sufficiently evolved that we allow the animal to die first instead of eating it while its alive.

[Anonymous No.12159551]

what's wrong with eating fish you retard...
fish are not like cows, they don't feel sad and don't have same consciousness.

you retards take it too far.

[Anonymous No.12159555]

>>12159551
https://www.peta.org/blog/are-fish-self-aware-mirror-test/

[Anonymous No.12159595]

>>12159555
>"shita" propaganda
use your own brain retard, would you feel bad killing a chicken or cow yourself?
i would.
you wouldn't if it was a fish, which you can not hug or play with or emotionally interact with.

[Anonymous No.12159616]

vegetarian>veganism

Actually practical and you can eat dairy.

[Anonymous No.12159643]

>>12159616
>dairy
Nyet! Is full of pus!

[Anonymous No.12159647]

>>12151109
I'm kind of curious to see what will happen with that, because a lot of them probably just want to believe it causes cancer so they have another reason to not eat it since the science behind that is shaky unless you're just talking about processed meat eaten every day. But if there's no moral dilemma if it no longer requires the death of an animal, I think most of them won't keep using the cancer argument.

[Anonymous No.12159656]

>>12159643
Funny how milk is vegan, and xtremely healthy and nutritious when (not) vegan babbies drink it, but puss-filled cancer when I drink it.

Cognitive dissonance of vegans is real. At least the mirror will put some truth in them after ten or more years on the starvation diet.

[Anonymous No.12159674]

>>12159656
>Funny how milk is vegan

[Anonymous No.12159678]

>>12147654
I might but I like eggs too much.

Oh and cheese.

But the reason I said I might is because I never really liked meat all that much. I come from a family that was always like MEAT MEAT MEAT UGGHHHHH YEAH BABY THATS THE STUFF

[Anonymous No.12159692]

>>12159656
>retarded carnist babbling
milk isn't vegan unless it comes from a human, complete with a signed consent form.

[Anonymous No.12159746]

>>12159674
>>12159678
>Milk is vegan when I drink it
>But not vegan when you drink it

And you wonder why people laugh at vegans?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ

[Anonymous No.12159773]

>>12159656
human milk from healthy vegan women is both healthy and vegan, as long as the milk was given freely and with consent. cow milk is stolen and full of pus. sorry to break your carnist bubble.

[Anonymous No.12159881]

>>12159773
>designed to
fucking christcucks.

[Anonymous No.12159897]

>>12159773
>We can do what we want, because we are precious leftists
>You however must conform to our wishes and manias

You veganbots just keep doubling down on stupid, thank God you eat a suicidal diet which removes you from the earth entirely (without offspring)

(With apologies if that was a carnist troll post)

[Anonymous No.12159906]

>>12159773
>>We can do what we want, because we are precious leftists
>>You however must conform to our wishes and manias

You veganbots just keep doubling down on stupid, thank God you eat a suicidal diet which removes you from the earth entirely (without offspring

(With apologies if that was a carnist troll post)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtLSn2PqX6k

[Anonymous No.12159921]

>>12159881
>christ
>not gaia
are all carnists this stupid or are you just a particularly advanced case of meat poisoning?

[Anonymous No.12159932]

>>12159906
I can see you're new here. theres only a few dozen regular posters here on /ck/. most of us handle both sides of the banter as needed.

[Anonymous No.12160864]

>>12159773
>The first knives were invented by homo sapiens during prehistoric times and were used as weapons, tools and eating utensils. The Oldowon was used up to 2.5 million years ago and is the oldest known knife-like tool to be discovered as of 2014.

Imagine thinking you're a gorilla.

[Anonymous No.12160912]

>>12147654
>raw tomato and hashbrowns drizzled with ketchup
what a nutritious meal.

[Anonymous No.12160921]

>>12160912
>carnist seething

[Anonymous No.12160925]

>>12150425
>why are so many vegans hockey players?
kek

[Anonymous No.12160928]

>>12151053
>trying to push anti-transit/pro-car crap
There is literally nothing wrong with this.

[Anonymous No.12160932]

>>12160921
>being vegan means you can't eat protein
retard.

[Anonymous No.12160968]

>>12160932
0% of us (or any western country) population get too little protein

[Anonymous No.12160980]

>>12160968
Cool you fucking idiot, nothing to do with OP's pic though.

[Anonymous No.12161087]

>>12147669
fuck your rational posting
where do you think we are?

[Anonymous No.12161109]

>>12147669
based. healthy, good for environment and cheap. meat is still delicious and nutritious though.

[Anonymous No.12161125]

>>12147743
definitely not the most fortunate picture of vegan food

[Anonymous No.12161129]

>>12160921
That bitch skin looks like crap.

[Anonymous No.12161595]

[Anonymous No.12161609]

>>12153620
>3 proof by examples
What do you mean by this?

[Anonymous No.12161624]

>>12160921
I always wonder does Natasha have a hairy ass

[Anonymous No.12161630]

>>12147654
Because i'm having steak tonight

[Anonymous No.12161810]

>>12161609
I think it's just copypasta at this point

[Anonymous No.12162376]

>>12147654
because I love eating cows

[Anonymous No.12162424]

>>12162376
that looks pretty good, medium rare?

[Anonymous No.12162433]

>>12147654
I was a vegan from birth for the first 16 years of my life. Shit sucked, never got enough protein or sugar so i was always fucking tired. Never gonna go back

[Anonymous No.12162438]

>>12162424
Nah pretty much only cooked on the outside. Really rare.

[Anonymous No.12162464]

>>12162376
Sear could be better

[Anonymous No.12162469]

>>12162376
Looks alright but you can do better. Turn up the heat in your pan next time to get a better sear.

[Anonymous No.12162472]

>>12162464
Im no professional. Just a quick lunch on the skillet.

[Anonymous No.12162528]

My friend who's vegan goes to the gym every day and hasn't grown one bit since the 2 years he became vegan.
He also has a bowel movement problem now and has to take shits several times a day and farts all the time.

[Anonymous No.12162536]

>>12162528
you're telling us he can't build muscle?

[Anonymous No.12162540]

>>12162536
Yup

[Anonymous No.12162857]

Corned beef is delicious.

[Anonymous No.12162870]

>>12162433
Just be one of the meat eating vegans. That way you get the moralizing and imagined superiority without the hockey accidents.

[Anonymous No.12162879]

Animals are monstrous pricks and there is no moral or ethical highground to be found in not eating them, and the world is fucked to already fucked all to hell no matter what you do, so there's no practical value or long-term payoff to be had in cutting out the bacon and butter. May as well just enjoy the primal pleasures of cured meat and high-proof hooch until it lands you in an early grave.

[Anonymous No.12163106]

>>12162870
Sounds like Rawvana, and vegan ass-stains. VG doesn't eat meat himself, but he does buy meat for his dogs, without the slightest hesitation or doubt about the staggering hypocrisy, f pretending to care deeply about animal suffering, while he has a freezer full of raw meat for his dogs.

[Anonymous No.12163167]

>>12163106
lmao never seen a person line that outside of cartoons

[Anonymous No.12163217]

>>12163167
Milkjar coined the term "soybelly" when a bloated obese vegan was assaulting and harrassing him at a carnivore outreach he (milkjar) held.

Vegans appear to end up emaciated skeletons, or bloated soybellies, depending on which branch of the starvation diet they follow...

[Anonymous No.12163230]

>>12163217
Yikes. That guy looks like a lama in a Venezuelan zoo.

[Anonymous No.12163249]

>>12156850
But we need meat to be healthy

..

[Anonymous No.12163264]

>>12159282
Wrong

[Anonymous No.12163267]

>>12163230
>Theskinnyrawvegan.

Yeah he's thin even for a vegan. Still has one video up on his channel.....

It's hard to find his channel Jewtube hides it, (((they))) shadow hide the worst, unhealthiest vegan channels. Have to use Google search to find him on YouTube and Instagram.

[Anonymous No.12163272]

>>12160912
Ikr this retard craves blood.
Vegans LOVE red shit

[Anonymous No.12163274]

>>12163217
nice generalizations colon cuck

[Anonymous No.12163297]

>>12163267
Jewtube is so fucking slimey. Where I live they are cooperating with a news agency to remove hate and all that bullshit. They literally remove channels who are their direct competition and are critical to people related to them.
Several times they've blocked shit that later got re-enabled after it gained attention.
I dont know how the law permits it.

[Anonymous No.12163329]

>>12163274
*Guys goes to gym and becomes ripped*
*Decides to go vegan*
>Omg guys! Look vegan diet weeerks look! He strong!

[Anonymous No.12163340]

>>12163329
Your point is? Sometimes people wake up and decide to make better choices. Most people don't have the luxury of being afforded the option of veganism from a young age. Their carnivore-crazed parents shove rotting flesh down the childs gullet.

[Anonymous No.12163349]

>>12163340
You're ignoring my point. You vegans claim that's ripped guys became ripped while on a vegan diet when they in fact were ripped on a normal diet and never would have become ripped one a vegan one.

[Anonymous No.12163353]

>>12163329
It's hilarious how vegans worship a carnivore bodybuilder and hold hm up as "proof" that "Veganism works"

[Anonymous No.12163359]

>>12151162
Is this what mental illness looks like?

[Anonymous No.12163361]

>>12163340
point is getting ripped is fueled by whey protein and an omnivore diet dipshit. Enjoy not even being able to nut though
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6750873/Vegan-YouTube-star-30-reveals-ejaculated-time-months-eating-salmon.html

[Anonymous No.12163364]

>>12163340
>Their carnivore-crazed parents shove rotting flesh down the childs gullet.

As per usual the liberal reverses reality with a 100% lie. Kids love meat, kids crave meat like lion cubs do..... it's instinctual. It's unnatural disgusting vegetables that parents have to force feed their sobbing crying kids "for their own (NOT) good"

[Anonymous No.12163392]

>>12163340
You know there's a reason for why the term "eat your veggies" is a thing right? Liking vegetables is something you must acquire while meat comes natural.

[Anonymous No.12163422]

>>12163274
Jesus Christ, that's nothing but sugar. How retarded do you have to be to eat only this?

[Anonymous No.12163428]

>>12163392
People tend to love things like cake and French fries but that doesn't mean it's healthy.

[Anonymous No.12163436]

>>12163422
Jesus christ it isn’t and that’s how 95% of healthy individuals eat!

[Anonymous No.12163438]

>>12163428
They like it because it's packed with calories. It's human nature to seek out foods who are like that, hence why kids don't like veggies and you need to eat tonnes of it, or you'll lose weight, hence why fat people are encouraged to go on a vegan diet.

[Anonymous No.12163451]

>>12148459
The fact that you felt the need to post this and did completely invalidates the post itself.

[Anonymous No.12163468]

>>12163428
But a diet of cake and French fries is vegetarian and can easily be vegan

[Anonymous No.12163474]

Because burgers are tasty. Although I will admit to eating some vegan stuff but I'm not vegan because I'm not a retard. We need meat to survive.

[Anonymous No.12163476]

>>12156248
Factual.

[Anonymous No.12163492]

>>12163392
"Eat your veggies" is a thing because people are fat fucks who don't eat any vegetables. They then feed their children chicken nuggets/hamburgers/tendies. When they introduce their kids to asparagus or whatever else, it's the nastiest canned unseasonsed shit they could serve. How often do you eat chicken/beef with 0 seasoning? Never, because it tastes bland as fuck. Of course raw brocolli isn't going to taste as good as the hundreds of ways you can prepare it. Goddamn, I eat meat but someone who's 18+ who still hasn't "learned" to like vegetables is insane to me

[Anonymous No.12163501]

>>12163364
>unnatural
>vegetables
wot

[Anonymous No.12163502]

>>12156676
I like some "vegan" stuff, I even make chana masala regularly, but there really is nothing that can compare to a good meat dish.
We ever have old tropes about how the most miserable thing in a poor persons life was the inability to regularly afford meat.

[Anonymous No.12163509]

>>12163474
Yo bro! I recognize that Hamburg. Still chilling in your main thread, it's lit!

[Anonymous No.12163515]

>>12148099
>eating vegetables is expensive
What were you eating avocados by the truck? I can cook up a pretty good meal for you if you hear me out. Just grab a zuchinni, chop a tomato and onions and simmer. Then add two eggs. Its pretty good

[Anonymous No.12163519]

>>12163509
>>12163474

Your cock is too, gay btw

[Anonymous No.12163535]

>>12163492
>is a thing because people are fat fucks who don't eat any vegetables. They then feed their children chicken nuggets/hamburgers/tendies.
It's universal. None of the kids under the age of 12 even touched the salad bar in school.
>How often do you eat chicken/beef with 0 seasoning?
How often did we do that before we discovered spices? Spices are a luxury.
>Goddamn, I eat meat but someone who's 18+ who still hasn't "learned" to like vegetables is insane to me
Of course it seems insane to you when you're told from birth that you need to eat them. Do you think some hunter gatherer would think like that?

[Anonymous No.12163656]

>>12163535
At my elementary school, no one ate the salad because there was incredibly greasy/fatty pizza that was served every day. Kids, on their own accord, will eat whatever is most pleasurable to them. They don't know any better. It doesn't mean we should encourage them to indulge in constant meat eating. I presumed OP brought up learning to like veggies because the taste of raw veggies isn't amazing, which is why I brought up spices. Their argument was that meat eating comes naturally (opposed to veggie eating). Neither is specifically natural though, hunter gatherers ate whatever the hell they could in order to survive (despite spices). Now that we have spices, of course people might say meat eating comes naturally, but that's only because we've been eating deliciously seasoned meat vs. bland veggies our whole lives. I'm not discrediting meat eating or veganism, all I'm arguing is that there is no inherently enjoying meat.

[Anonymous No.12163666]

>>12163656
>(despite spices)
*despite the lack of spices

[Anonymous No.12163668]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qKSCW4Df_0

this is why

[Anonymous No.12163686]

>>12163656
>was incredibly greasy/fatty pizza that was served every day
Exactly! Calorie rich, fatty that keeps the body going.
Eating meat is 100000x more natural than eating a man made veggies.

[Anonymous No.12164015]

>>12163656
Just eat veggies with whatever cooking techniques that make dead corpses taste good.

[Anonymous No.12164345]

>>12147654
Because I was born a man.

[Anonymous No.12164347]

Because I have no problem eating honey from honeybees, eggs from my backyard hens, and meat from the pest animals I kill myself.

[Anonymous No.12164350]

>>12164015
Dead corpse huh. Are there living corpses?

[Anonymous No.12164549]

>>12163264
>units are nanograms of estorene plus estradiol for animal products and isoflavones for plant products
whoopsie, how'd you leave that in?

[Anonymous No.12164708]

>>12163451
>cope
lmao at you sniveling carnists

[Anonymous No.12164718]

>>12147654
Anyone got a recipe for this dish? Looks good, although the tomatoes need more spices.

[Anonymous No.12164738]

>>12164350
Yes, they are called "long term vegans"

[Anonymous No.12164815]

>>12155713
Your hypothetical breaks down because double-homicides have occurred in the real world yet it did not result in the sort of runaway reaction you describe.

[Anonymous No.12164866]

>>12147654
meat is expensive

vegan food is more so

bretharianism fits my budget.

[Anonymous No.12164971]

>>12161609
I knew you were too retarded to know your logical fallacies. Welcome to 4chan, newfag.

[Anonymous No.12165015]

>>12163501
No vegetable or fruit found in the supermarket bears any resemblance to its wild forebear

[Anonymous No.12165023]

>>12164549
See the bottom, soyboy.

[Anonymous No.12165239]

>>12165015
Yes, but what I replied to is just a poor appeal to nature. To support natural meat eating vs. eating modified vegetables is absurd. You know as well as I do that animals bred for meat are fed a ton of food in troughs, pumped full of chemicals, then robotically slaughtered. Nothing about this process is natural. You're not endurance hunting a buffalo here, you're buying beef at a supermarket Gardening and harvesting vegetables/buying locally grown vegetables is much closer to what our ancestors did than buying nuggies off the dollar menu.

[Anonymous No.12165268]

>>12165239
>vegans actually believe our prehistoric ancestors bought square watermelons and kale with their debit cards.

[Anonymous No.12165288]

Because I enjoy having teeth.

[Anonymous No.12165310]

I'd really like to continue enjoying animal products, but so far the arguments I'm seeing in favor of doing so are just climate change denial and literal agribusiness shilling.

[Anonymous No.12165312]

>>12165239
>Not growing fodder via permaculture to feed to your livestock after SHTF to slowly transition from pastorial to hunter-gatherer as you heal the earth
But yea gl finding avocado and tofu then my fag

[Anonymous No.12165319]

>>12165310
Vegan false flagging but reminder meat companies like Tyson are investing in vegan bullshit because its a NWO die-t to cull the population

[Anonymous No.12165339]

>>12165319
This is exactly the kind of bullshit I'm referring to.

[Anonymous No.12165380]

>>12165339
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/3/22/18273892/tyson-vegan-vegetarian-lab-meat-climate-change-animals
Sit

[Anonymous No.12165394]

>>12165380
Seems like they sense which way the wind is blowing and getting in on the action.

[Anonymous No.12165420]

>>12165394
They want us to eat that crap, same reason "philanthropists" like Bill Gates are obsessed with lab meat too and why the food pyramid exists (they don't even reference meat as a category in the new My plate bs, just as "protein")

[Anonymous No.12165427]

>>12153757
based evolution taking care of veganism

[Anonymous No.12165430]

>>12165420
Agribusiness is not sustainable, and people aren't willing to moderate their meat consumption.

[Anonymous No.12165433]

>>12165319
Why do you deliberately spread misleading information to kill people?

[Anonymous No.12165443]

>>12165420
It's artificial selection. They're telling people how to eat a proper diet after all this time to select docile genes.

[Anonymous No.12165451]

>>12165433
Ever since people have actually started talking/worrying about climate change, there has been very aggressive, low-effort shilling across the various related boards (e.g. /ck/ and /n/) on behalf of the parties responsible.

[Anonymous No.12165768]

>>12165268
>Gardening and harvesting vegetables... Is much closer to what our ancestors did than buying nuggies
>Much closer
>Closer
Now very very slowly reread what I typed, and despite your shit comprehension, you might pick up what I'm saying. I eat meat pretty often, the only thing I am arguing against is that vegetables are unnatural. I cannot imagine what it's like to be over 4 years old and believe that vegetables are more unnatural than current slaughterhouse practices. Does it make you feel better to believe that slaughterhouses are beautiful places? That animals don't feel? Again, I eat meat, but the claim that vegetables are unnatural leads me to believe you're over 300 pounds

[Anonymous No.12165790]

>>12165768
modern supermarket vegetables are unnatural.
so is factory farming.
these two statements are not mutually exclusive.

[Anonymous No.12165818]

>>12165023
wtf? wow..
your assumption is wrong by a factor of 100000. In fact, there's no comparison. Isoflavones block estrogen... you just wanted to post your shitty pic. The dude you quoted even said all these things. fml, I took a shitty bait

[Anonymous No.12165846]

>>12164815
It doesn't break down because of that, just reinforces it. Society goes out of their way to deny it from happening, that doesn't mean it can't.

[Anonymous No.12166503]

>>12164971
I'm not even a meat eater. You sound like a cunt

[Anonymous No.12167183]

>>12165433
That meal is 80% plant
>>12165451
You realize shipping in your faggot fruit uses more oil on one trip than some drumpflets truck ever will

[Anonymous No.12167244]

to poor for buy tomato :(

[Anonymous No.12167253]

>>12167183
>You realize shipping in your faggot fruit uses more oil on one trip than some drumpflets truck ever will
This strawman argument changes everything, wtf I love agribusiness now?

[Anonymous No.12167279]

>>12167253
Raise your own animals moron, which will be banned basically if vegans keep pushing Jewish agenda and implement carbon taxes on farmers. Only the rich will have meat then.

[Anonymous No.12167309]

>>12167279
Sure, if you want to break up Big Agra, subsidize small farms and get everybody to moderate their meat consumption, that might work... if the four decades we wasted on climate change denialism haven't already pushed us too far.

[Anonymous No.12167577]

Haven't spoken to my sister in twelve years, ever since she joined a cult, but that changed when she called me out of the blue yesterday. One of the first things she said, and I'm not joking about this, is "I'm vegan now, but I eat fish sometimes."

She shoulda stayed in the cult.

Anyway, I'm eating vegan dindins right now: curry aubergine fry with rice and a side of soy sauce marinated courgette. About a quarter to a third of my meals just happen to lack animal products cuz they simply don't need them.

[Anonymous No.12167622]

>>12159452
50?
nope
30

[Anonymous No.12167627]

>>12147654
severe lack of umami in that picture...

[Anonymous No.12168468]

>>12159773
humans don't kill prey with their mouth

[Anonymous No.12168476]

>>12147654
Because I'm not a massive faggot.

[Anonymous No.12168567]

>>12147654
because veganpilled people be like this >>12167215
you're probably the same faggot though and PETAs giving you $0.002 for your efforts

[Anonymous No.12168585]

I appreciate the efforts of vegans to keep meat affordable for the rest of us.

[Anonymous No.12168589]

Anyone noticed you can usually identify a carnist just by their puffy inflamed face?

[Anonymous No.12168600]

>>12147654
Not worth it.

[Anonymous No.12169361]

>>12148100
>>12148108
>>12148110
>>12148118
This made me very confused. Sometimes I want ids on every board

[Anonymous No.12169364]

>>12160928
like a clockwork

[Anonymous No.12169689]

>>12167244
it's a gross world. tomatoes cost more than big macs, all thanks to subsidies.

[Anonymous No.12169900]

>>12168468
Because we didnt fucking evolve to eat meat. We dont have animal killing fangs, we dont have animal killing claws. Meat is unnatural for us which is why it's so incredibly unhealthy for us.

[Anonymous No.12170036]

>>12169900
>Because we didnt fucking evolve to eat meat
Nonsense.
Our digestive tract is much closer to that of a carnivore than a herbivore. We humans also lack the adaptations that herbivores have. We don't have a rumen. We don't have a fermenting gut. We aren't coprophagic. Our intestines are too short. Our molars are too small. We cannot digest cellulose. Herbivorous animals have those things. Human beings do not.

[Anonymous No.12170038]

>>12147654
I did for a while then decided I was a nihilist.

[Anonymous No.12170159]

>>12170036
>We don't have a fermenting gut
Except that vegans do have a fermenting gut
>We aren't coprophagic.
Except that vegans are.

humans are natural vegans not meat eaters. its not only the healthiest way to eat, its also the most ethical.

[Anonymous No.12170264]

>>12170159
>humans are natural vegans not meat eaters. its not only the healthiest way to eat, its also the most ethical.

Veganism is neither healthy, nor ethical. What is ethical about using chemical pesticides? What is ethical about you directly paying a farmer to shoot thousands of deer, hogs, rabbits racoons squirrels and birds?

https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

>Wow perfect head shot! Very ethical!
>You killed the whole family of hogs!! Very ethical!

[Anonymous No.12170270]

>>12170159
>>We aren't coprophagic.
>Except that vegans are.

Go look up "coprophagic" in a dictionary. I don't think you know what that means. You're not a rabbit or a hamster.

[Anonymous No.12170322]

>>12170159
We do have a fermenting gut, but we can also digest meat.
>>12169900
We have canine teeth, and the ability to digest meat.
With humans having an immense intelligence compared to other animals, this should be enough proof that we are indeed omnivores, made to outsmart other animals, as we have canine teeth to get through tough stuff and molars to eat grains.

[Anonymous No.12170461]

>>12147669
why is fp always bp?

[Anonymous No.12170464]

>>12147654
why not post something that is actual food perhaps?
oh, you're baitposting, that's why.

[Anonymous No.12170795]

>>12170159
>humans are natural vegans not meat eaters
explain why artificial supplementation is required to support a nutritionally sufficient vegan diet then

[Anonymous No.12170846]

>>12169900
You are just so incomprehensibly stupid. We have teeth meant for omnivorous eating. We didn't evolve talons and fangs because we use tools you dumb bitch. Chimpanzees and other monkeys eat meat all the god damn time when they can get it. Our brains are so big (not yours) because we learned to use fire to cook meat and make the nutrients more available to our bodies.

[Anonymous No.12171139]

>>12170159
vegan diet for humans is as bad as for cats
a slow painful death

[Anonymous No.12171452]

>>12170159
>>We aren't coprophagic.
>Except that vegans are.

-----
everyone above this line, YHBT, HAND

[Anonymous No.12172201]

>>12147654
>>12147689
>https://plagueofstrength.com/vegetarianism-and-veganism-bes/
>https://plagueofstrength.com/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as/
>http://www.lloydianaspects.co.uk/opinion/veggie.html
>https://thetab.com/uk/2017/02/16/vegetarians-unhealthy-mentally-disturbed-says-new-research-33067
>https://plagueofstrength.com/the-war-on-coffee-and-common-sense-or/

[Anonymous No.12172213]

>>12147654
Because I'm not gay.

[Anonymous No.12172233]

>>12169900
>http://time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/
>https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Meat+in+the+human+diet:+an+anthropological+perspective-a0169311689
>https://www.livescience.com/23671-eating-meat-made-us-human.html
>https://www.livescience.com/24875-meat-human-brain.html
>https://carta.anthropogeny.org/moca/topics/smalllarge-intestine-length-ratio
>https://www.mpg.de/12728073/neandertals-main-food-source-was-definitely-meat
>People who read books know a fact that vegetarians do not- that at one point in history, the Earth's total population of humans dropped to between 5,000 and 10,000 individuals, due to the eruption of Mt. Toba in Sumatra, which killed off most of the available plant and animal life on Earth in 71,000 BC. During this period of time, humans were confined to an extraordinarily small area of Africa that escaped glaciation, where they subsisted on a diet that was "approximately 50-70% meat and 50-30% plants, respectively." This diet was necessitated by the die-off of plants and animals, and the lack of a varied diet that could have been otherwise obtained though plant gathering. It was at this time that the Neanderthal diet came to consist of naught but meat, due to the complete lack of availability of edible vegetation, which likely lasted for at least 1000 years.(Plants/climate) "
>https://plagueofstrength.com/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as/

[Anonymous No.12172592]

>>12172233
I like the feeling I get when I'm not vegan.

[Anonymous No.12172620]

>>12150425
Name a single vegan currently in the NHL.

I’ll wait

[Anonymous No.12172632]

>>12170795
It isnt. All you have to do is eat some cow patties every now and then. Healthy. Ethical. Vegan.

[Anonymous No.12172663]

>>12172592
hahahahah i know that feel 8)

[Anonymous No.12173385]

>>12147700
>>12157211
Samefagging this hard

[Anonymous No.12173450]

Vegans don't exist. Everything you enjoy in this world of technological wonderment uses at least some esoteric animal byproduct.

[Anonymous No.12173633]

Vegan food is disgusting

[Anonymous No.12173962]

>>12147654
Fish don't count, right?

[Anonymous No.12173978]

>>12173450
Luigi is correct. I respect people that follow their conscience and aren't pompous dicks about it. Eat what you want but don't try to guilt trip me about what I eat when you sit on a throne of hypocrisy.

[Anonymous No.12174026]

>>12173978
>Veganbot
>Not a hypocrite

This does not compute, the entire vegan movement is wrapped up in two intersecting themes.

1. Obsession with their own sacrifice/self harm for the false cause.
2. Complete seething rage for the "enemy" which is healthy normal people (meat eaters)

tl;dr sickly starving vegans is a movement entirely built on hatred- of normal healthy people.

[Anonymous No.12174087]

>>12174026
Yeah those kinds are the worst. There's a few religious people mixed in that aren't bots about it and understand the rest of the world is built on animal products and make use of it just the same. There's also people with compromised immune systems that literally can't handle the complex proteins of meat not out of choice but because of deteriorating health. It's not always us VS them but I do tend to find veganbots are the worst offenders when it comes up.

[Anonymous No.12174102]

>>12173962
Fish and plants is the best human diet, so yes, fish are allowed.

[Anonymous No.12174148]

>>12174102
Don't tell them this you'll fucking make the enemy healthy fuck me.

Fish are not allowed in Veganism whatsoever lol. If you tell a vegan you eat fish you will receive a seething raging lecture about cruelty and destroying the planet. (Vegans argument about overfishing is actually correct, but that's a side issue)

[Anonymous No.12174152]

>>12174087
If such people exist I pity them. But according to the Peterson's, meat was the only food they COULD eat, because of their compromised immune system??.

[Anonymous No.12174155]

>>12174152
Who's Peterson? If you're talking about how humans had to survive off of only meat for a min, you can imagine people with compromised immune systems simply died off. Getting old and/or sick sucks.

[Anonymous No.12174270]

>>12173450

[Anonymous No.12174292]

>>12174155
Jordan B Peterson, and his daughter Michaela Peterson. Famous canadiens (because he is a professor) they had to switch to a 100% carnivore diet, because literally every other food was indigestible to them, the daughter was very sick, including failing joints from early arthritis as a teen.

All fixed when they went 100% carnivore (I do not eat that diet, I am omnivorous, but I focus on eating more beef, lamb as the foundation of my diet, for my health, and I eat it rare, or raw)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF_7688Zk6s

[Anonymous No.12174296]

>>12147654
i did

[Anonymous No.12174347]

>>12156676
Were they substitutes for meat? I never understood this, are vegans and vegetarians so unwilling to give up meat dishes that they need to find substitutes for everything? Seems hypocritical to me, vegetables are great. You can have vegetable dishes and you can have dishes with meat, but why on earth do you want to recreate meats and dairy with something else?

[Anonymous No.12174367]

>>12174270
I don’t know whether to feel sad or happy about having use for the entire cow. My grandfather has a dairy farm and I loved the cows. They’re so sweet and endearing.

[Anonymous No.12174370]

>>12147654
I want to produce testosterone

[Anonymous No.12174393]

>>12174367
>I don’t know whether to feel sad or happy about having use for the entire cow
Happy. Assuming your grandfather is a good man he put a lot of love and dedication into those animals care and final moments for their intended purpose and nothing went to waste. They lived a happy and healthy life, much longer and more rich then what they would ever manage on their own in the wild.

[Anonymous No.12175268]

>>12174370

[Anonymous No.12175326]

>>12158690
>killing other animals is hardly justifiable
it is, factory farming on the other hand is not really natural.

[Anonymous No.12175374]

>>12147654
Because i have a penis and i use it to get women pregnant

[Anonymous No.12175521]

>>12147654
because i'm not gay

[Anonymous No.12175548]

>>12152768
just stay vegetarian anon

[Anonymous No.12175597]

>>12147654
because food is one of the only joys i have left in life

i might try being pescatarian or something in the near future for a bit though if i get better at cooking more things

[Anonymous No.12175724]

>>12163274
Jon Venus looks good for a guy who admits his entire physique was built on a diet of tons and tons of meat.

Got any more carnivores you like to promote?

[Anonymous No.12175915]

>>12147654
I don't like vegetables. This diet would kill me.

[Anonymous No.12176001]

>>12159440
A is from carrots/sweet potatoes and D is from the sun. I'm confused.

[Anonymous No.12176046]

>>12159551
Fish can have some benefits (especially salmon), but eating a lot of it exposes you to poisonous mercury, which doesn't go away. Also, there is the problem of over-fishing, although some have wised up and are making fish farms.
>>12159616
Dairy has no real benefits (although perhaps for vegans) and cheese is nasty.
>>12159647
I try to warn everyone I know about processed meat, although I've heard that "red meat" is also a "potential carcinogen" by the WHO. I think I'll just harp on processed meat tho. That shit made me sick.

Man, it sucks to see that there are some dumb vegans being used as strawmen for painting us as deathly ill while I gain weight (in muscle) or hold my weight. Granted, I'm no hulk (maybe a spiderman) but I can see meat eaters are in full damage control mode, but those dumb vegans that can't get their diet right deserve it too. Anyway, more greens = better health. If you guys don't want to become vegan, thats fine, just don't kill yourselves on hamburgers

[Anonymous No.12176048]

>>12176001
It's a vegan antivegan falseflag bot. Just ignore it. Meat is healthy and necessary because of important mysterious nutrients we haven't discovered yet.

[Anonymous No.12176084]

>>12176046
>but I can see meat eaters are in full damage control mode
you're as deluded as the loonix fags calling 98% of the world "insane" or claiming they are attacking your OS while literally nobody cares about your special brand of autism

no offense brother

[Anonymous No.12176089]

>>12176046
>but I can see meat eaters are in full damage control mode....

Yeah I don't see that bro, what IC is vegan after vegan dumping your starvation cult. Good luck with your teeth (as in you're going to lose them if you stay vegan, from malnutrition)

[Anonymous No.12176094]

>>12176084
Didn't see your post broham...

[Anonymous No.12176096]

>>12151781
jesus christ what is this shit?

I know I'm mr fucking autism, but can people just think logically like there's a world where there's a cause and effect? If you care about the human race, your health, your children, food security, land efficiency, your fields not becoming a desert, and maybe some cows that would get slaughtered anyway even if we stopped eating meat (duh), then you must realize that even if that one grain of sand is only one of many, you still contributed to it. If you want to better yourself or help others, then this is a damn impactful way (assuming you don't suddenly go from organic locally grown stuff to some half-way-round-the-world roundup infested, unhealthy shitgrass).

[Anonymous No.12176157]

>>12148006
Your taste changes pretty dramatically, so that's obviously anecdotal. I have some cravings and nostalgia, I admit, but they taste different when I try them again. Cheese gave me a noticeable ache, even when I was already pretty packed with vegan food to begin with. And the cheese pizza slice was destined for the trash can if I hadn't eaten it fyi. At least the cow's hard work didn't get thrown away! :D
>>12148087
It is. Ketchup and tomatoes? Vegan gone wrong.
>>12148088
I hate people politics. That's probably why no one likes me and no one hates me. All I try to give is facts and nobody cares unless it lines up with their groupthink.
>>12150425
I wish I knew vegans, but you realize we're not stupid, this is just strawman and shock and awe and highly anecdotal
>>12150463
check out cowspiracy and what the health. because reasons.
>>12153757
I like google rabbit holes. cya thread, I must investigate!

[Anonymous No.12176695]

>>12172213
yes, you are super gay, but that is a non sequitur anyways.

[Anonymous No.12177369]

>>12147654
Veganism is an eating disorder with a cult like behavior attached to it in order to justify its on existence. And since I am not a closeted anorexic, I am not for it.
I am in favour of fair trade, small local farms and against animal testing.