/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.13152880]

Why is it ethical to eat pigs, but not dogs? Pigs are intelligent animals

[Anonymous No.13152889]

because EBIN DOGGO PUPPERS are LE CUTE!!!
nah, but seriously, that's the only reason why
well, that and the fact that dog meat isn't very tasty

[Anonymous No.13152893]

Pigs taste good
Dogs taste bad
Pigs perform no useful work and are not more valuable alive than dead
Dogs perform useful work and are more valuable alive than dead

Thank you for attending my Ted Talk.

[Anonymous No.13152901]

>>13152880
pigs are really good at eating food waste and turning it into good meat/fat, dogs are better as companion/work animals.

a lot of people disagree about eating pigs being ethical anyway though, and more people will probably agree once lab-grown meat is available.

[Anonymous No.13152906]

>>13152880
I'd eat dog, but not cat, because I specifically like cats

[Anonymous No.13152907]

>>13152880
Not intelligent enough to avoid getting eaten though LOL

[Anonymous No.13152934]

>>13152880
It's not ethical to eat pigs, kuffar. They are unclean animals.

[Anonymous No.13152967]

>>13152893
>>13152901
so then why don't we just murder the elderly, the disabled, the unemployed, NEETs, and the mentally ill and use their corpses as nutrients for crops

[Anonymous No.13153033]

>>13152880
Dogs got personality. Personality goes a long way

[Anonymous No.13153046]

>>13152880
Dogs don't make bacon

[Anonymous No.13153053]

>>13152967
The elderly perform useful work in that they are living repositories of culture and history.
They are the linchpin of civilization, and for you to even suggest otherwise removes any credibility you might have had.

[Anonymous No.13153055]

>>13152967
You cant use humans as fertilizer because human diseases can get on the crops and make people sick.

[Anonymous No.13153068]

>>13152967
because a social animal killing large numbers of its own is offputting to most

[Anonymous No.13153124]

>>13153055
We can use them with non-nutritive crops like cotton, bamboo, and grains for ethanol and plastics.

[Anonymous No.13153145]

Can a pig do this?

[Anonymous No.13153164]

>>13152880
Dog food is made using pork parts.

[Anonymous No.13153172]

>>13153145
I thought Trump did do it.

[Anonymous No.13153183]

>>13152893
what if we raised dogs with a controlled diet like with livestock, would that improve the taste

what does it taste like anyway

[Anonymous No.13153216]

>>13152880
Its not.
>>13152893
>>13152901
>>13152906
>>13152907
>>13153046
>>13153033
>>13153145
retards

[Anonymous No.13153228]

>>13152880
Dogs are carnivores and are inefficient to raise for food compared to animals that thrive on grain based diets.

[Anonymous No.13153239]

>>13152880
it's not
/thread

[Anonymous No.13153515]

>>13152880
Because they're fucking tasty. Next thread.

[Anonymous No.13153529]

>>13152880
It is not ethical to eat pigs. Pigs are haram.

[Anonymous No.13153533]

>>13153515
Okay boomer.

[Anonymous No.13153535]

>>13153529
What if you were stranded on a desert island and the only thing around to eat was a big fat pig?

[Anonymous No.13153548]

If Dogs aren't tasty then why are the favorite meal of many predators?

[Anonymous No.13153556]

>>13153548
Most wild animals don't care that much about what their food tastes like, they just eat what's easier to get and what their instinct "tells" they can digest. Also, different animals have different lifestyles and taste palates. I'm pretty sure eucalyptus leaves and raw blood taste absolutely disgusting to humans, but koalas and vampire bats don't seem to be bothered by the tastes.

Answering the question about dogs tasting good to humans, i don't think so. Despite domestic dogs themselves being omnivorous, the wolves they descended from are almost pure carnivores, and endothermic carnivores tend to taste bad. Dogs also really fatty and don't have that much meat. Some Asian countries eat dog meat, but i guess they're just used to eating stronger-tasting stuff.

[Anonymous No.13153558]

>>13153533
Your salty tears provide good seasoning.

[Anonymous No.13153566]

>>13153535
Pig is haram, kaffir.

[Anonymous No.13153714]

>>13152880
dog meat tastes bad and they are inefficient to farm.

[Anonymous No.13153962]

pigs are slow and easier to catch

[Anonymous No.13154195]

>>13152880
This is actually probably the reason for why western attitudes towards the two species are different: >>13152893

Dogs were used for work throughout history. They were used to guard houses, even back in Roman times. They have been used to round up farm animals of course, and also they're used in hunting for tracking prey and also for collecting prey that has been shot by the dog's owner. And of course these days dogs are used by the police, as sniffer dogs. And they're used as guide dogs. All sorts.

So that is most likely the reason. Pigs might be intelligent but they haven't proven themselves to be as useful to humans as dogs. Cats too were helpful throughout history, mainly for pest control. So again that's probably why western people didn't want to eat these animals; they were useful.

Also there's the fact that cats and dogs don't have much meat on them. Pigs, cows, and even sheep have more meat, which is probably why we came to eat them. Chickens are quite small but they have a fair amount of meat and, importantly, they give us eggs, which is a big reason to farm them. So then once you've farmed them for their eggs, you may as well eat them.

"Ethics" only exist for pragmatic reasons. You must understand this. I think I understood this as a young teenager. It really doesn't take much brainpower to understand it.

[Anonymous No.13154200]

>>13152967
This is true: >>13153053
>The elderly perform useful work in that they are living repositories of culture and history.

Also as for the unemployed / disabled / mentally ill, other humans would think "shit what if I lost my job and ended up being chopped up for fertiliser", and also you've got the parents of these disabled / unemployed people who obviously don't want their children to get chopped up. So that's why we don't do that.

Pigs don't have anybody to advocate for them. So we eat them. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.13154283]

>>13154200
Because pigs are unable to unionize. Every pig would sell out every other pig to save its own bacon. It is a dog eat dog world in the late-stage sowcialism the pigsocietsty finds itself in.

[Anonymous No.13154500]

>>13152967
Eating human will give you a fookin prion

[Anonymous No.13154518]

>>13154500
nah, it's cool bro if you just don't eat the brains

[Anonymous No.13154521]

>>13152967
I see nothing wrong with this at all.

[Anonymous No.13154523]

>>13152880
Post a video of you eating a dog to back up your argument anon. Dont bitch out now.

[Anonymous No.13154526]

>>13154523
Dinotendies got banned for pretending to eat a turtle egg. OP will definitely get banned for eating a dog.

[Anonymous No.13154533]

>>13154526
If OP wants to up hold his reputation he will do it. He can get unbanned later

[Anonymous No.13154547]

>>13153183
Visit South Korea and try it yourself.

[Anonymous No.13154558]

>>13152934
Muslims are unclean people. should eat/10

[Anonymous No.13154574]

>>13152967
Humans aren't lowly animals you mentally ill furry fuck.

[Anonymous No.13154611]

>>13152893
>>13152901
>>13154195
so then why is it unethical to eat dogs that exist solely for companionship (i.e. lapdogs, toy breeds, etc) and that don't perform any actual work?

[Anonymous No.13154614]

>>13154611
It's really up to you. Ethical systems are very personal, and none of them are 100% justifiable. Just don't break any of the laws in the region that you live.

[Anonymous No.13154628]

>>13154547
South Korea has banned the slaughter of dogs for food. Also, good luck finding a dog restaurant. They're little hole-in-the-walls in back alleys off the beaten path. In the unlikely event you found one, you'll join a customer base of impotent old men eating dog hoping it will give them one last erection.

[Anonymous No.13154630]

>>13152880

Cultural reasons. Pigs are just as smart and have as much personality as dogs, but they've been bred exclusively as a source of meat. Dogs are a bad source of meat and have many other uses. Morality is literally a tool in the genetic/cultural toolkit that makes humans work as social animals and allows them to build complex and functional societies. This means morality is both important and entirely subjective.

[Anonymous No.13154823]

>>13152880
I do eat vegan to the best I can, but animal products are everywhere and shilled daily. :/ doesnt help that my furanimal babies were slaughtered for food by people irl.

[Anonymous No.13154835]

Who said its unethical to eat animals?

[Anonymous No.13154854]

>>13152880
>NO YOU CAN'T ASSIGN DIFFERENT VALUE TO DIFFERENT ANIMALS

[Anonymous No.13154891]

>>13152893
>pigs don't do work
there are pigs that are trained to sniff out truffles.

[Anonymous No.13154895]

>>13152880
because MUH DOGS

imagine being a dog lover
imagine being """best friends""" with an animal that literally eats its own poop

its pathetic af

[Anonymous No.13154904]

>>13152880
I would love a pet pig.
I would also eat a farmed dog.

[Anonymous No.13154910]

>>13152893
dogs stink

[Anonymous No.13154912]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyapNJCWaKY

[Anonymous No.13154963]

>>13152967
well i dont think old disabled jobless mentally ill pigs taste very good either

[Anonymous No.13155010]

>>13154963
He didn't say eat them, though.
I'm all for grinding them up and using them as fertiliser and pigfood. The problem is that a lot of them probably carry hepatitis and shit like that.

[Anonymous No.13155027]

>>13152906
I wouldn’t eat dog, mostly because I figure they will have a hint of how they smell when they’re wet too. I don’t know if there is, but if I detect it at all I’d be vomitting all over the establishment. And I’m just not that curious.

[Anonymous No.13155033]

>>13153033
Pigs have personality. You’ve just never been around them to find out.

[Anonymous No.13155193]

>>13154611
Besides them being small and meatless, companionship is a valued quality in dogs, just as much as the ability to perform fieldwork. Not only are many small dogs bred solely for that purpose, but even larger breeds are getting into the whole "emotional support" fad.

[Anonymous No.13155278]

>>13154910
pigs stink more

[Anonymous No.13155288]

>>13154912
cat has got to be pretty vile tasting
i don't think i would even try it if it were offered

[Anonymous No.13155345]

>>13152880
Arbitrary cultural distinctions based on the value of domesticated animals. Pigs are only good for their meat and occasionally foraging for truffles. Dogs are competent hunting companions, a natural alarm system for your house, and extremely loyal defenders. Therefore it makes more sense in a situation where you depend on agriculture to survive to slaughter the hog and keep the dog around as long as possible.

[Anonymous No.13155448]

>>13152880
Pigs don't really express their intelligence in a way that people like, and also pigs aren't eager to be friendly to people so die time.

[Anonymous No.13155458]

>>13152967
t. underage faggot

[Anonymous No.13155475]

>eat bacon for the first time
>literally just turns into grease in your mouth
>tasty af

Finally understand the hype and it is warranted.

[Anonymous No.13155499]

>>13152880
I'm more curious how this same thread gets yous every times it's posted. Proof that 4chan is packed with idiots

[Anonymous No.13155507]

>>13152967
I fucking wish

[Anonymous No.13155526]

>>13154891
And those aren't eaten. Your point is?

[Anonymous No.13155532]

>>13153228
This probably makes the most sense, alongside with this >>13152893

[Anonymous No.13155547]

>>13152880
Because dogs have been selectively bred for thousands of years to be useful work tools or companions, are low mass carnivorous animals and as such it would generally be deleterious behaviour to butcher them for their low yield of low quality meat. Pigs on the other hand while very intelligent (and cute !) are incredibly efficient voracious biomass cultivation machines.

[Anonymous No.13155552]

>>13152967
>Why doesn't the snake just eat itself.
Try getting a rudimentary understanding of very basic thermodynamics before you deign yourself fit to speak about society.

[None !2Code3TV3M No.13155554]

>>13154611
a lot of small dogs fit the same roles cats did, or were bred small specifically for hunting burrowing animals in the same way people sometimes use minks for rat infestations
believe it or not, weiner dogs are actually hunting breeds specially designed to hunt dangerous badgers
and cairn terriers like 'toto' from wizard of oz are for mice or rats, but were also used to flush out small sporting game like foxes, and a saddening hunting accident is what lead to the white variant 'westies' being developed

>>13152880
pigs will eat literally anything you can give them to fatten them up, traditionally they were more or less garbage disposals.
they don't get sick from bad food all that easily
the way they were originally tamed as a big different too, you basically would kill the mom and cage and capture the piglets
boars are nearly purely scavengers, so even if they move in groups they don't understand complex team strategies like wolves do, boars are just about as dangerous though physically, relying on their brute force.
humans would follow wolves stalking deer so we could scavenge the remains after they'd eaten their fill and cook it, breaking open the bones as well, so wolves got fairly used to these inoffensive creatures following them, so wolves would follow humans for scraps of cooked food, knowing that humans could provide food in times of scarcity
a boar by contrast, hell, a modern pig if it's hungry, they'll bowl over a child and bite into it's leg and are even known to eat pigs smaller than them
many farmers have had problems with pigs attacking and eating their farm dogs and barn cats
just look up 'pig eats child'
when it comes to pigs, anything is game for a snack as long as they feel they can get away with it

tl;dr
pigs are assholes
dogs are bros

[Anonymous No.13155558]

>>13155033
Pigs have personality, and while I actually like them, the truth of it is they're headstrong arrogant greedy little niggers, just like me (and they'd eat you if they got the chance)

[Anonymous No.13155567]

>>13152967
Literally no good reason

[Anonymous No.13155576]

>>13153145
What if we did send trained attack pigs to go bite muslims. They would be so pissed

[Anonymous No.13155639]

>>13155576
They already do that, they're called Americans

[Anonymous No.13155665]

>>13155639
BTFO!

[Anonymous No.13155667]

>>13152880
> cause pigs taste delicious and dogs taste like shit

Also, dogs have value as working companions. Pigs don’t do shit.

It’s funny that we have to explain this shit to you dumb white liberals in 2019

[Anonymous No.13155678]

>>13155667

Dumb white anti science liberals are confused by the concept of a food chain.

[Anonymous No.13155722]

Pigs eat garbage and convert it into delicious meat.
Dogs do not do that

[Anonymous No.13155728]

Americromagnons need their mutts to fuck and cry about animal rights while grilling their pigs and cows well done and slathering ketchup and ranch over it.

[Anonymous No.13155818]

>>13152880
I'd generally avoid eating carnivores.

[Anonymous No.13155893]

>>13154195
>Throughout history
It's been a lot fucking longer than that, we literally coevolved as symbiotic life.

[Anonymous No.13155906]

It isn't. I am aware it isn't. But I still do it cause they taste good.

[Anonymous No.13155909]

Who says it's unethical to eat dogs? A bunch of obnoxious smarmy oppressive assholes?

It's a bad idea to eat people because ALL the diseases are catchable. Eat someone with kuru, you get kuru. Eat someone with syphilis (without cooking THOROUGHLY), you get syphilis. That's why cannibalism is generally a bad idea.

Dogs, horses, rabbits, you name 'em, I'll eat 'em. The diseases mostly don't transfer, and you can watch for the ones that do. Those animals had just as much time to evolve butcher shops and meatpacking plants as humans did.

[Anonymous No.13155953]

>>13155909
Also to add, people with diabetes will taste even worse.

[Anonymous No.13156097]

It's not ethical to eat dogs or cats because there's no actual meat market for either in Western countries. Harvesting dog or cat or buying from someone who harvests dog or cat means you have a pretty high chance of eating someone's pet.

[Anonymous No.13156098]

>>13152880
>what is the cause of ethics? what gives it authority?
belief in that system of ethics.
please remove yourself from your dickbrain if you;re going to consider morality.

[Anonymous No.13156119]

>>13155818
lots of great tasting fish are pure carnivores

[Anonymous No.13157491]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE DOGGO

[Anonymous No.13157499]

>>13154547
Even the dogs have squinty eyes.

[Anonymous No.13157572]

>>13157491
found the slant-eye.
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