/veg/ Veganism General

[Anonymous No.13459430]

Vegan General: Smells Like Victory Edition

Welcome to /veg/, a thread dedicated to the health, environmental and ethical benefits of a vegan lifestyle.

b-b-but muh Vitamin B12
>https://www.vegansociety.com/resources/nutrition-and-health/nutrients/vitamin-b12/what-every-vegan-should-know-about-vitamin-b12

Veganuary: Go animal free for January
>https://uk.veganuary.com/

McDonald's introduce new vegan options for 2020
>https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/mcdonalds-veggie-dippers-vegan-meal-17492835

Pizza Hut to introduce vegan friendly Pepperphoni
>https://www.pizzahut.co.uk/restaurants/food/pizza/vegan-pepperphoni/

British man WINS legal action to make veganism a protected category
>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7848473/Vegans-protected-UK-equality-laws.html

Recipes and ideas
>https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/food-recipes/healthy/g807/vegan-recipes/

[Anonymous No.13459432]

>>13459430
Please die.

[Anonymous No.13459436]

Veganism is an eating disorder.

[Anonymous No.13459449]

Continue with vegan excellence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU

Veganism is the only diet KNOWN to reduce heart disease:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs

Vegans have reduced mortality rates compared to obese carnists:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ

Carnists welcome ONLY if they are transitioning (diet or gender)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA

Looking to make the switch to a healthy whole foods plant based diet? Ask your questions here..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Wry4ppywQ

[Anonymous No.13459451]

>>13459432
>>13459436
gonna be on the wrong side of history, anons.

[Anonymous No.13459494]

>>13459451
fun fact, you can't be a vegan and eat organic food, because organic food isn't vegan.

[Anonymous No.13459516]

>financially supporting the mass slaughter of farm animals by buying the token vegan options from fast food chains

[Anonymous No.13459520]

>>13459494
Who mentioned organic food?
Are you in the right thread?

[Anonymous No.13459528]

>>13459520
While we're on the topic of Veganism could you help me out ... I've been trying to figure out if milk is vegan?

[Anonymous No.13459533]

Bump.
Made some pxalis (pkhalis) recently.
It's vegetable pâté (spinach, beets, pumpkin, cabbage, sweet potato slips etc) with herbs, spices, walnuts and pomegranate seeds.
That was a yum.

[Anonymous No.13459535]

Based vegbro. Keep it up.

[Anonymous No.13459537]

>>13459528
sealioning faggot kys

[Anonymous No.13459546]

Veganism is a philosophical belief. This thread is not about cooking. Post this crap somewhere else

[Anonymous No.13459552]

>>13459494
I assume you're implying because organic has to use animal manures as fertilizers? That's false, though. Composted plant matter provides the necessary nutrients. Nitrogen fixating cover crops are ideal since while they are growing they add nitrogen to the soil and can be tilled in to decompose.

[Anonymous No.13459559]

>gonna be on the wrong side of history, anons.

[Anonymous No.13459560]

>>13459537
Wow I was enthusiastic about the vegan lifestyle because it's all about compassion. You are obviously a trolling carnist shill. Take your hate elsewhere pls.

[Anonymous No.13459563]

>>13459546
>ethics and philosophy about food and cooking does not belong ob a board called "food and cooking"

[Anonymous No.13459564]

Last general hit bump limit within 8 hours so I guess there’s definitely growing interest in vegan stuff.

[Anonymous No.13459569]

>>13459552
Farms already do that duh. More fertilizer is usually needed depending on the climate and soil quality. Using manure is ideal because it's a byproduct of animal ag. True "vegan" farming requires the best fertilizer not be used, instead using insanely harmful chemical fertilizers which have to be mined at great environmental cost (not that vegans give a fuck about that)

[Anonymous No.13459571]

>>13459564
Nah it's just the dumbest shit that's most controversial on a specific board gets the most replies, like black nationalism threads on /pol/.

[Anonymous No.13459572]

>>13459564
Lot of exciting new vegans on the internet scene. Generating a lot of buzz....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxAqytqLMtY

[Anonymous No.13459575]

>>13459564
its mostly the lardasses getting triggered that their whole existence and raison-d'être are being fundamentally questioned by us just posting plant dish recipes

[Anonymous No.13459579]

>>13459575
Lardasses eat loads of processed carbs just like you.

[Anonymous No.13459580]

>>13459579
A wild and misplaced assumption, anon.
I eat whole foods mostly.

[Anonymous No.13459590]

>>13459580
I hope you advocate against spreading poison like fake meat in the name of veganism. Most vegans don't know any better.

[Anonymous No.13459601]

>>13459590
these types usually don't last for too long

[Anonymous No.13459604]

>>13459601
Yep, you see it in videos like this >>13459572
Imagine each of those sickly youtube "influencers" having thousands of subscribers who follow their advice.

[Anonymous No.13459608]

>>13459569
Sorry Cletus, it ain't the 19th century anymore. The megacorporate monoculture farms which produce 95% of the crops use synthetic petroleum based fertilizers. The only farms using manure are the *gasp* small organic farmers (you know, those farmers you and your ilk attempt to shit on).

[Anonymous No.13459610]

>>13459590
Dr Pam popper and Dr Joel Khan have both ~hinted~ or indirectly said that (that mock meats are ultra-processed unhealthy garbage food) but the other 99% of vegans don't say anything because these fake meats are "good for veganism" which is probably true.

[Anonymous No.13459615]

>this is your asshole on a vegan diet

[Anonymous No.13459624]

>>13459608
You are probably right, thinking about it I guess I have very little knowledge about the true megafarms, so I'll take that one.

[Anonymous No.13459626]

>>13459615
plot twist, thats actually my "omni and proud of it" relatives' rhoided anuses they complain about for years

[Anonymous No.13459633]

>>13459615
Could you bite the piles off an asshole and it be ok

[Anonymous No.13459640]

>>13459533
Sounds nice.

[Anonymous No.13459649]

>>13459564
Veganism will become more mainstream as the boomers die off. They’re the most ignorant generation.

[Anonymous No.13459665]

>>13459649
Are tide pods vegan?

[Anonymous No.13459669]

>>13459649
Disillusion yourself.
The millenial broscientists are BY FAR the most ignorant ones.
The worst yet is that they think they know it all because PJW told them soy can give you moobs or some bullshit.
WHY DON'T CHINKS WALK AROUND WITH HUGE FUCKING MILKERS THEN, EXPLAIN ME THIS YOU BRAINDEAD NPCS.

[Anonymous No.13459677]

Is it OK for a vegan to sacrifice her own child to the cult?

[Anonymous No.13459680]

>>13459669
Just like in the mirror Ma'am, you don't have to ask us.

[Anonymous No.13459689]

>>13459677
Ought to be encouraged tbqh

[Anonymous No.13459691]

>>13459669
Soy giving moobs was around well before that and it was in relation to soy isolate protein powder.

[Anonymous No.13459693]

>>13459680
>the one meme soy product producer has moobs
>billions of traditional soy product consumers have none
It's so obviously set up

[Anonymous No.13459708]

>>13459693
Honk Long ... "Hint Kong"
H..O..N..G K..O...N.G....
(CAN I UNCHOOSE A FUCKING KEYBOARD THAT CHANGES FUCKING ANYTHING I TYPE FML???)

HK Chinese are just Chinese people but not as broke as the mainland ones. HK Chinese have highest level of meat consumption worldwide, they also have the longest average lifespan worldwide. Almost enough to make a vegan doubt his brainwashing. Almost.

[Anonymous No.13459715]

>>13459691
>protein powder
Sounds like something a roids infused bodybuilder would consume and then blame the hormonal disbalance on soy.
That's not a coincidence that it's mostly the gymfreak faggots that complain about bitchies.

[Anonymous No.13459721]

>>13459715
Probably because vegan "men" aren't complaining at all.

[Anonymous No.13459729]

>>13459708
>Hong Kong
They overcompensate with the nuclear amounts of spice in every single dish.
No wonder they have no chronic inflammations all over the body that the regular omnis suffer from.

[Anonymous No.13459739]

>>13459430

[Anonymous No.13459742]

>>13459739
Lol have you noticed that the vegans- have stopped posting memes entirely on this site?

Their memes are so easy to shop and give right back to them it's a complete surrender.

[Anonymous No.13459750]

Vegetarians are great
Vegans are headcases
You can be environmentally responsible without being a moral high ground chasing idiot.

Cheese is perhaps the tastiest argument btfoing vegans.

[Anonymous No.13459759]

>>13459742
r/vegancirclejerk is more focused on r/antivegan than 4chan now

[Anonymous No.13459786]

>>13459759
Thanks I'll check it out...

[Anonymous No.13459818]

I know its not technically the same thing, but I have to go vegetarian for 6 months because of a challenge that my GF (female) has issued me. There is a great reward at the end if I pull it off.

Is it even doable if I have celiac disease? (can't eat gluten without nearly dying) Also will it massively fuck my gains?

[Anonymous No.13459828]

>>13459818
>GF (female)
Lol, faggot.

[Anonymous No.13459835]

>>13459828
>literal fags calling straights fags

lmao

[Anonymous No.13459861]

>>13459436
>"So, whatcha having for lunch there, anon?"
>"Uh, probably just gonna fry up some tofu with fresh veggies and rice noodles and have that with a peanut sauce, it's simply to make and hits all my macros."
>"YOU'RE INSANE!!"
>"Excuse me?"
>"YOU HAVE AN EATING DISORDER!! EVERY MEAL MUST CONTAIN A ONCE LIVING BEING THAT WAS KILLED AND GUTTED SO THAT I MAY DEVOUR ITS LIFE-FORCE!! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOOD!!!"
Retards.

>>13459494
>NOOO!!! YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE POOP FROM ANIMALS AND USE IT ON FIELDS, NOT THE CRAPPERS, NOT THE LITTLE POOPERINOS, NOT THE STINKY BOYZ!!!
Sorry previous guy, THIS is a real retard.

[Anonymous No.13459875]

>vegetarianism worked for me, but even with supplements I never felt quite right
>doing pescatarian right now and feeling great

been meal prepping sushi and other good shit all the time. I watched juns kitchen to learn how to do it. I have shrimp with most dinners, and fish a few times a week as well.

[Anonymous No.13459904]

>>13459742
>memes

[Anonymous No.13459926]

>>13459861
He is right. Organic is carnist. If you eat organic food, you are funding the meat and dairy industry

[Anonymous No.13459932]

>>13459926
It's poop. It's literally shit. Stop pretending like you know more about veganism than vegans or care about animals, all you're looking for is an easy "GOTCHA!" to meme about and use as an excuse to keep munching on corpses like a fucking ghoul. KYS.

[Anonymous No.13459941]

>>13459926
Ok Boomer

[Anonymous No.13459965]

>>13459932
It's a byproduct of meat and dairy industry. You are indirectly paying them for the exploition of animals, brainlet. Conventional vegetables use synthetic fertilizer. YOU ARE CREATING A DEMAND FOR ORGANIC PRODUCTS WHICH EXPLOIT ANIMALS WHEN YOU BUY ORGANIC

[Anonymous No.13460143]

>>13459932
Which wouldn’t exist if animal farming didn’t exist. Meaning organic farming is impossible without thriving dairy and meat industries.

[Anonymous No.13460157]

>tfw not a vegan but still enjoy seeing the creative ways to make delicious food

hummus pizza is a goddamn miracle

[Anonymous No.13460159]

daily reminder that vegan diets kill children from malnourishment

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/11/22/baby-kept-vegan-diet-died-his-parents-have-been-charged-with-manslaughter/

[Anonymous No.13460180]

Haha I love pretending to eat to. I'm totally not anorexic.

[Anonymous No.13460205]

>>13459528
God I wish that were me.

[Anonymous No.13460237]

>>13459759
>vegans spend their free time organizing raids and spamming cooking forums with the same handful of shitty memes
Totally not a mental illness though

[Anonymous No.13460292]

>>13460159
Daily reminder that bad parenting kills not veganism.
It’s perfectly fine to raise your children on a vegan diet if you know what you are doing.

[Anonymous No.13460299]

>>13460143
just hire some pajeets

[Anonymous No.13460314]

>>13459965
>>13460143
It doesn't drive demand, since it's a legit byproduct. Nobody keeps animals just for their poop for Pete's sake!

>wouldn’t exist if animal farming didn’t exist
I'm pretty sure animal would poop anyway dude.

That being said, some vegans do think it isn't completely vegan, but it's one of those things where vegans argue so it's not a settled issue. Most of the vegans who are against manure just want to prove themselves more vegan than others for the sake of ego and don't at all consider the practical aspects, like how the fuck someone is to know if the food used poop or not.

[Anonymous No.13460317]

>>13460292
you could raise your kids on mcdonalds food alone and they wouldnt die of malnourishment. cant say the same for vegan

[Anonymous No.13460340]

>>13460317
Not if you just had them eat ketchup and lick the fat-drippings from the burger. Pretty sure they'd die then.

These parents you hear about always do crap like ultra-restrict the kids diet and give them like only carrot juice or some shit so it's technically "vegan" in the same way as feeding a kid only sand and piss would be "vegan" in that is does not contain animal products. Big surprise it doesn't contain fucking anything.

[Anonymous No.13460433]

>>13459430
>B12
>needing pills or any shit
NIGGAS YOU HAVE THE SOLUTION RIGHT BEFORE YOUR EYES AND YOU ARE TOO BLIND TO SEE IT. LET ME BLOW YOUR FUCKING MINDS: IT'S MARMITE.
>but the sal-
YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO EAT THE GLASS IN ONE SITTING. MARMITE.
>but the tas-
M A R M I T E
>bu-
MARMITE.
MARMITE FOR SOUPS
MARMITE FOR STOCKS
MARMITE FOR BROTHS, DIPS, AND MARINADE
MARMITE ON BREAD
MARMITE FOR GIVING HOMEMADE KETCHUP THE TASTE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS
MARMITE RED WHINE REDUCTION WITH ASPARAGUS FOAM AND PORCHINI
vegemite is ok too. But don't tell anyone.

[Anonymous No.13460508]

>>13460433
That's fortified with B12 you dumb cunt.

[Anonymous No.13460530]

>>13460508
You know what it also is? GOD'S CHOSEN YEAST EXTRACT. And it's actually /ck/ related.

[Anonymous No.13460537]

>>13460530
Vegemite is better, fight me cunt.

[Anonymous No.13460552]

>>13460314
>being this obtuse on purpose
You can’t conduct a business like organic farming without a supplier of manure. Even though animals poop you need a concentration of them to get this product and since you hypothetically don’t have a dairy or beef business anymore then their shit is no longer a cheap by product, it is the product at much higher cost making organic beyond unaffordable.

They’re not arguing about ego. The core tenant of veganism is that the use of animals is wrong because of the suffering that farming causes the animal. You literally can’t have organic farming without manure and you can’t have manure without industrial meat and dairy production. You can’t get around this, this isn’t a gotcha this is a fact. You can’t be a vegan and promote organic produce.

[Anonymous No.13460570]

>>13460537
Vegemite is fine too, I couldn't fight a fellow man of taste over such matters.

[Anonymous No.13460585]

>>13460314

[Anonymous No.13460614]

>>13460314
>Nobody keeps animals just for their poop for Pete's sake!
You can touch the cognitive dissonance

[Anonymous No.13460912]

>>13460570
Now I just feel bad. You're an alright cunt, mate.

>>13460585
>>13460614
And bees are used to pollinate stuff. So? Look if I KNOW some veggies were grown using bones and stuff I'll avoid those partciular veggies, but it's not like it's on the label. How to avoid it? What else to do with all that poop now that it's there? Sure ideally it would not be there at all since we would ideally not have an animal industry, but it is. And it's not practically feasible for 99% of people in 99% of cases to avoid it or even know about it, and as such this is not a legitimate vegan issue but a "GOTCHA!" tactic used by people who want to appeal to futility and argue that since you cannot be perfectly vegan in every way you might as well give up and eat meat. I call bullshit.

[Anonymous No.13460962]

>>13460552
>hypothetically don’t have a dairy or beef business anymore
Great, no more problem then! The issue is the ubiquity and lack of labelling that makes it practically impossible to avoid manure. Just like you can't always be sure that seats on a train or airplane won't be made of leather or that store-bought bread wasn't made with yeast fed sugar passed through bone char, or whatever else. Perfection is an illusion. Vegans literally joke about this and reference the Simpsons episode with a Level 5 vegan who won't eat anything that casts a shadow. The demand for perfection is only brought up by virtue signaling vegans or anti-vegans who think they can Nirvana fallacy their way to victory.

>You literally can’t have organic farming without manure
Lie. In the hypothetical scenario where we've dissmantled the animal industries, and don't have to worry about unavoidable ingestion, we'd be fine. Organic vegan farming can rely on either human poop or vegan fertilizers e.g. compost, hay mulching, wood ash, kelp, etc. There's plenty of other examples. Google it. Vegan permaculture is either completely organic and uses no manure, or relies on foraged manure (like literally picking up deer poop in the forest). It is abso-fucking-lutely a GOTCHA and you did not even bother to google "organic vegan farming no manure" just to check because you're to full of yourself, you fucking liar.

[Anonymous No.13461137]

>>13460962
>anti-vegans who think they can Nirvana fallacy their way to victory
Nobody thinks they are at war with you. They just think you are stupid.

[Anonymous No.13461146]

I'm not reading all this nonsense, just dropping in to say anti-vegans are the most fragile snowflakes on the entire internet. Imagine being so angry at someone who ordered a salad that you save hundreds of reaction images and type up endless butthurt rants for hours on end looking for a hole in an argument that only exists in your head.

[Anonymous No.13461223]

>>13461137
You can win or lose an argument too, dipshit, it doesn't have to be a war.

>>13461146
But BACON though LMAO :^P

[Anonymous No.13461227]

>Vegan General: Smells Like Victory Edition
>Welcome to /veg/, a thread dedicated to the health, environmental and ethical benefits of a vegan lifestyle.
>b-b-but muh Vitamin B12
>>https://www.vegansociety.com/resources/nutrition-and-health/nutrients/vitamin-b12/what-every-vegan-should-know-about-vitamin-b12
>Veganuary: Go animal free for January
>>https://uk.veganuary.com/
>McDonald's introduce new vegan options for 2020
>>https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/mcdonalds-veggie-dippers-vegan-meal-17492835
>Pizza Hut to introduce vegan friendly Pepperphoni
>>https://www.pizzahut.co.uk/restaurants/food/pizza/vegan-pepperphoni/
>British man WINS legal action to make veganism a protected category
>>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7848473/Vegans-protected-UK-equality-laws.html
>Recipes and ideas
>>https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/food-recipes/healthy/g807/vegan-recipes/

[Anonymous No.13461302]

>>13460962
>Nirvana fallacy their way to victory
I tried /pol/ once and it was Fallacy : The Board. People aren't that dumb, they know deep inside that at least eating less meat and dairy is the right thing to do, in every field, but they caved in to their inner fears and got so low that now they're trying to bring other people down because they fear that someday they'll be left all alone because they didn't manage to catch up and change their views, so the only move left for them is to rely on fallacies. There's no argument to have with these guys, I'm not vegan but follow the whole thing since 2011 and it's clear that veganism is winning, alongside anything compassion related. The mere fact that there's now a vegan general is huge, and these guys can tell. If you ever get tired of their tantrums don't worry too much about it, they're not going to change the direction the world is taking.

[Anonymous No.13461400]

>>13461302
eating less meat and dairy is the right thing to do says who? there are literal groups of people going meat and fat only and they’re getting healthier.

[Anonymous No.13461502]

>>13461146
then why you do drop a nonsensical butthurt rant ?

[Anonymous No.13461515]

>general
Redittors are trash

[Anonymous No.13462595]

Hey vegans, what made you decide to join a starvation cult? And would you describe your body as "frail" "sickly" or "emaciated?"

[Anonymous No.13462601]

Name one leaf that your intestines can actually digest. Here's an example of how you could actually eat a leaf and get the nutrients from it, because otherwise you can't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0xbia1m4LA

[Anonymous No.13462610]

Name one leaf that you can actually digest Herbivore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0xbia1m4LA

Here's an example of how another primate digests leaves. You can't. Enjoy being sickly and ill in a few years from excessive anti-nutrients and lack of necessary saturated fats for hormone production. Please stop brushing your teeth.

[Anonymous No.13462845]

>>13459677
First time I've ever heard niggers being vegans.

[Anonymous No.13463041]

>>13459430
I've know several vegans over the years currently I have a friend who is vegan he has my respect because he never told me he was vegan, we had to figure it out. Because of this I make him the best god damn vegan chocolate chips you've ever had. I figure he deserves at least one good tasting food.

[Anonymous No.13463052]

>>13459430
I've know several vegans over the years currently I have a friend who is vegan he has my respect because he never told me he was vegan, we had to figure it out. Because of this I make him the best god damn vegan chocolate chip cookies you've ever had. I figure he deserves at least one good tasting food.

[Anonymous No.13463245]

>>13459430
there's only like 400 kcal in this picture lol

[Anonymous No.13463253]

So is veganism no longer optional now?

[Anonymous No.13463310]

Veganbros, help me out with dish ideas, need some variety. No need for recipes just tell me the dish and I can google.
So far I'm doing lots of stews (bean chilli, lentil soup), spreads (hummus, guac, salsa), curries w coconut milk, stir fries with asian spices and oils, burritos, pea protein shakes, pasta aglio e olio, and lots of faux meat which I'm not too excited about.

[Anonymous No.13464210]

>>13463310
I apologize for being stupid and literally not reading the op

[Anonymous No.13464731]

>>13462595
>Hey vegans, what made you decide to join a starvation cult?
How butthurt it makes people like you, it's like 24/7 trolling by just existing, it's pretty great.

>And would you describe your body as "frail" "sickly" or "emaciated?"
No I'm progressing fine on my novice strenght training program and I've put on a bit of muscle, so I look better than skinnyfat omnivore me from six months ago, though still pretty dyel after only 3 months of lifting.

>>13462610
>>13462601
Dandelion, stinging nettle, wood sorrel. There like tons more.

[Anonymous No.13464763]

>>13459430
fun fact: the university hospital near me recently decided not to offer no vegan menu offer as from a medical perspective there was absolutely no benefit compared to the vegetarian option

[Anonymous No.13464827]

>>13459430
Fuck ethics (I really do not give a shit about caged animals), can anyone give me a decent, uncomplicated rundown of the health effects of vegetarian vs vegan?

Everything I've read suggests that eggs are pretty much a fucking superfood, in moderation at least. From where I'm standing, vegetarianism or pescatarianism seem like sensible healthy roads to go down. So what's veganism got going for it, and why has it taken off so much in recent years? I'm not trying to stir shit up, I'm genuinely curious as someone who doesn't know much about this kind of thing.

[Anonymous No.13464838]

>>13459430
>b-b-but muh Vitamin B12
The B12 is created by micro-animals that are on the plants.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro-animal
>b-b-but tiny animals don't count...

[Anonymous No.13464845]

>>13464827
>So what's veganism got going for it
A heavy reliance on supplements, and a huge source of demand that fuels the supplement industry.

[Anonymous No.13464848]

>>13464763
>not to offer no vegan menu
So they offered one or are you a hick?

[Anonymous No.13464853]

>>13464763
Based strokeposter

[Anonymous No.13464865]

>>13464827
>Fuck ethics (I really do not give a shit about caged animals)
You really admit to yourself that you think it’s wrong with this statement (you know that cages are morally incorrect, you just choose not to acknowledge it). What is the point of arguing with people like you who will deny and create your own false systems of beliefs specifically for these threads?

[Anonymous No.13464866]

>>13464848
>hurr anon had a typo
If you read the whole post you can pretty much deduce that anon was trying to say that the hospital does not have a vegan menu.

[Anonymous No.13464874]

>>13464865
>What is the point of arguing with people like you
Who was asking for an argument? I'm not trying to be combative, I was hoping someone in this thread could be informative and provide me with some kind of health-based comparison between vegetarians and vegans.

[Anonymous No.13465441]

Bumping 1 of 2 reddit generals.

[Anonymous No.13466182]

LGBT thread again