/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.14160202]

Why does butter get so much hate?

[Anonymous No.14160205]

kerrygold, home

[Anonymous No.14160206]

>>14160202
because margarine is better

[Anonymous No.14160232]

>>14160202
kerrygold looks best out of all of them

[Anonymous No.14160244]

butter doesn't get hate though. margarine, shortening , and lard all get way more undeserved vitriol

[Anonymous No.14160249]

>>14160206
Literally in no single way is margarine better (rancid vegetable oil).

[Anonymous No.14160250]

>>14160244
What's the difference between margarine and shortening anyway?

[Anonymous No.14160273]

>>14160202
Slowdownfarmsteads butter

Find me a better butter

[Anonymous No.14160274]

>>14160250
shortening is usually pure vegetable fat (though it can also be flavored), margarine is usually flavored and can have some milk solids and usually more water content than shortening.

[Anonymous No.14160280]

>>14160202
it's all fake butter except maybe the last one

t European who eats real butter

[Anonymous No.14160304]

>>14160280
Rent free.

[Anonymous No.14160406]

>>14160205
I doubt it

[Anonymous No.14160466]

>>14160273
What a beauty
It's almost too good to use for cooking nor baking
It fucking looks like ghee. What's the fat percentage on that babe?

[Anonymous No.14160472]

>>14160466
t. butter coomer

[Anonymous No.14160477]

literally no one hates on butter and anyone that would, could, or does hate on butter matters so little that literally no one hates on butter

[Anonymous No.14160549]

>>14160273
looks really nice, is it a local brand to you?

[Anonymous No.14160557]

>>14160472
>butter coomer
....boomer?

[Anonymous No.14160584]

>>14160202
some bullshit left winged studies in the 70's that were all discredited in the late 80's will not leave certain people's minds for some reason.
Therefore, "butter and lard BAD"
"vegetable oil GOOD"

mcdonald's fries used to be fried in beef tallow back in the 70's until these "studies" fucked everything up

[Anonymous No.14160591]

For me, it's lurpak

[Anonymous No.14160615]

>>14160584
Everyone says that but realistically McDonalds switched to vegetable oil because it is cheaper. No other reason.

Same reason why so many baked goods are made with vegetable shortening now instead of butter. It's just more profitable.

[Anonymous No.14160646]

>>14160549
No that's a persons personal butter. No supermarket quality butter could produce anything remotely close to this quality.

Its this lady I follow on instagram slowdownfarmstead
She raises high quality animals from the ground up and slaughters and butchers them herself. She was very picky about the dairy cow she bought and how she lived and what she eats. It's super cool!

[Anonymous No.14160661]

>>14160584
they were fried in beef tallow until the late 90s, they only stopped due to the growing number of vegetarians

[Anonymous No.14160667]

>>14160202
does it?

[Anonymous No.14160757]

>>14160615
hmm
your ideas intrigue me anon and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter

[Anonymous No.14160768]

>>14160280
Those are literally all European brands.

[Anonymous No.14160898]

>>14160615
commercial baker here

yeah it's way cheaper

[Anonymous No.14160912]

Cows need a lot of land so it makes commies seethe.

[Anonymous No.14161327]

>>14160244
Whats wrong with lard.

[Anonymous No.14161380]

>>14160244
Who hates on lard?

[Anonymous No.14161518]

>>14160206
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..... someone enjoys their benzine I see

[Anonymous No.14161560]

>>14160768
I don't give a fuck, I eat only fresh 82+% butter without bullshit

[Anonymous No.14161612]

Reminder that unsalted _____ is for babies who can't handle the taste of butter

[Anonymous No.14161619]

>>14160206
based, enjoy your rancid milk butterfags

[Anonymous No.14161621]

unironically the corn/sugar lobby

[Anonymous No.14161644]

>>14161612
or for bakers?

[Anonymous No.14161661]

>>14161612
are you insane?

[Anonymous No.14161791]

>>14161612
I've never seen salted butter sold in my life.

[Anonymous No.14161815]

who hates butter? nobody hates butter except maybe literal asians in asia who don't speak English

[Anonymous No.14161821]

>>14160202
I don't hate butter yet you're not living until you're dipping them with cheetos!

[Anonymous No.14161822]

>>14160661
I remember that actually became a big controversy in India, Hindus found out they were eating tallow fries.

[Anonymous No.14161833]

>>14160202
Because it's racist. Might not be obvious but once you start reading between the lines it makes sense.

[Anonymous No.14161835]

>>14161822
I remember that in fact is we in the USA don't have proper fries anymore. To suckup to the hindus and muslims.
What bullshit we've become when in an instant we could blow you away.

[Anonymous No.14161850]

>>14161833
How precisely is that racist when we don't give a flying fuck about your hindu shit? If you useless fucks want to come to the USA on h1b or anchor baby shit want to come to the USA then deal with our shit. We don't have to deal with your hindoo shit.

[Anonymous No.14161867]

>>14161822
That's because they worship cows and shit and the ganges. They offer nothing to the USA except maybe a cute girl here and there, that's really it.
Where did they and the pakis get nukes? It certainly wasn't on their own, they stole the tech from the USA and Germany, maybe France.

[Anonymous No.14161870]

>>14161867
... Russia as well, oh back in the USSR.

[Anonymous No.14161972]

>>14160202
For me it's Waitrose Ducy Organic procured from His Royal Highness Prince Charles Philip Arthur George, Prince of Wales, KG, KT, GCB, OM, AK, QSO, CC, PC, ADC, Earl of Chester, Duke of Cornwall, Duke of Rothesay, Earl of Carrick, Baron of Renfrew, Lord of the Isles and Prince and Great Steward of Scotland's finest estates.

[Anonymous No.14161976]

>>14161644
Desserts are better when slightly salted

[Anonymous No.14161999]

>>14161976
Bakers typically add the salt themselves rather than rely on ingredients with a potentially unpredictable amount of added salt.

[Anonymous No.14162016]

>>14161999
Trips of truth

[Anonymous No.14162172]

>>14161560
That's what all of those butters are.

[Anonymous No.14162314]

>>14161791
have you been in a grocery store?

[Anonymous No.14162375]

>>14161999
Salt percentage is mentioned on the packaging in civilized countries

[Anonymous No.14162379]

>>14162375
That's not as useful as you might think when you're trying to bake with precise measurements. The specific number of milligrams of salt matters.

[Anonymous No.14162413]

>>14162375
It's typically less than a gram in salted butter. It's literally just there to keep the butter softer.

[Anonymous No.14162414]

>>14161976
>Desserts are better when slightly salted
Not all of them but regardless, you add the salt to the specification for the recipe, not whatever happens to be in the butter.

[Anonymous No.14162420]

>>14161791
>Yuropoor detected.

[Anonymous No.14162424]

>>14162420
???

[Anonymous No.14162459]

>>14160250
One is diluted cheaper butter. And can be shortening with milk powder.
The other is pure vegetable fat.


>>14160615
You can get decent shortening and margarine for half the price of milk, per kg. As a private enterprise ordering in bulk.
No shit its cheaper.

As a consumer its retarded to buy any form of margarine if its more expensive than butter. It has less nutrients and vitamins.

[Anonymous No.14162468]

>>14162459
>>14160250
In my country shortening is usually made from tallow.

[Anonymous No.14162469]

>>14161867
>Be me
>Be working inna grocery store
>Have QT 3.14 Indian gril who's families are regular shoppers
>Get impression that she thinks I'm cute
>Not wanting to spill spaghetti all over the cash register I ignore her and justify it by telling myself she is a vegan and not Christian
>Family stops shopping when new/better location of my company's store opens up close to their house
Find out later they WERE Christian and she WAS in to me and is now engaged to some ugly cunt who is shorter and uglier than me.
>MFW could have had a QT Indian wife to make naan and little Christian baby's with.
Feels so fucking bad bros.

[Anonymous No.14162474]

>>14161999
More like bulk butter is cheaper than some special derivative, so its cheaper to add MORE salt afterwards.
By default butter is salted, to improve consistency. Default butter is going to be around 1% salt. Because it improves shelf life and consistency.
If its marked as "salted" its most likely going to be 2-4% salt.

If its unsalted, it should be 0,5% or somewhere around there.

>>14162468
Well, it depends on language and tradition.
Some countries do not even separate between margarine and shortening, its all just margarine.

[Anonymous No.14162482]

>>14162474
I guess so. It's like you said with margarine and shortening but for us it's basically suet and shortening. There are vegetable shortenings out there though.

[Anonymous No.14162488]

>>14160646
Does she have an onlyfans?

[Anonymous No.14162667]

>>14162314
Certainly.
I've seen 72.5, 82.5, chocolate butter (usually 62.5), a variety of spreads and margarines but never any salted butter.

[Anonymous No.14162673]

Every time I talk to my aunt about using butter in cakes, like if I say I don't have enough to make something she says "just use margarine" and says it's the same thing.

[Anonymous No.14162685]

>>14160202
>Why does butter get so much hate?
Because the long nose tribe do any want you to be healthy and instead wants you to buy their patented artificial chemical based cancer sludge.

Same reason they told us eggs and red meat were bad for decades and to eat more carbs.

[Anonymous No.14163244]

>>14161791
is there a way to drive the yuros from our site?

[Anonymous No.14163258]

>>14162685
>hehe yes it was the jews
>and not the sugar/corn lobby that lined their pockets as a direct result of shifting the blame on obesity to fats
you be trippin bruh

[Anonymous No.14163261]

>>14160591
basedo

[Anonymous No.14163268]

>>14160202
Because it's the easy way out of cooking. You add butter to a dish and normalfucks think its ambrosia

[Anonymous No.14163322]

>>14160205
Least it was ‘fore Lurpak fucked everythang up

[Anonymous No.14163393]

>>14161791
I bet they sell salted to amerifats because it's shelf stable for like two years, and they brainwashed amerifats that adding (cheap) salt makes it good.

[Anonymous No.14163406]

>>14162172
Trust me on this, they aren't. They've all been fucked with and have the feel or margarine.

[Anonymous No.14163483]

>>14163393
Also, annatto added for the fat fucks.

[Anonymous No.14163489]

>>14161791
I've seen unsalted in my shelfs, which means "Butter" is salted. And salted means "extra salted butter" in terms of packaging.

[Anonymous No.14163500]

>>14163489
>which means "Butter" is salted
It's a cheap preservative you dumb fuck amerifats.

How is adding cheap garbage like salt to a premium product make it in any way better???

Add it yourself if you want, but it's an obvious degradation of quality!!!

[Anonymous No.14163503]

>>14160202
Why does European butter come in inconvienent bricks or slabs, when god's perfect golden butter ratio is the half cup stick?

Why must they commit this SIN before man and GOD!?

[Anonymous No.14163511]

>>14163500
>salt
>cheap garbage

[Anonymous No.14163512]

>>14163503
>god's
>cup
You're gonna burn in hell with this man made garbage.

God intended people to use grams.

[Anonymous No.14163519]

>>14163511
Salted anything=worse.
Has been on the shelves for months before you bought it.

This is so obvious. It's insane how dumb and brainwashed you amerifats are.

[Anonymous No.14163521]

>>14163503
Because it makes sense for any scale of cooking.
And if you where to use leave it at right temperature its going to become spreadable, so you want a size where you can use a butterknife to spread the butter on the butterbread.
Its easy peasy lemon squeezy.

[Anonymous No.14163530]

>>14162172
Check out the nutrition information of any of those products and do the math.

[Anonymous No.14163539]

>>14163521
> so you want a size where you can use a butterknife to spread the butter on the butterbread.
You need the size to suffice few really big but thin slices of cold solid butter to spread it on your bread, if you're me.

[Anonymous No.14163542]

>>14163539
>to spread it on your bread
Ok, to just put them on top of it really.

[Anonymous No.14163544]

>>14160202
I churn my own butter, if you catch my drift ;)

[Anonymous No.14163549]

>>14163539
>cold solid butter
?
Why not just go full Norwegian and use a cheese slicer at that point? Its a option, and the only downside is that you use more butter, which isn't a real downside.

[Anonymous No.14163562]

>>14163549
I'm good with the knife. And I don't think I'm even using more butter than soft butter cucks because the slices are really thin. It just werks.

[Anonymous No.14163607]

>>14163519
No, anon. Just no.
>>14163503
They come in 250g bricks. It's easy to weigh out.

[Anonymous No.14163645]

>>14163607
>No, anon. Just no.
???

Buy salted meat, buy salted nuts, buy salted beer, buy salted vegetables, buy salted fruits.

Dumb, dumb, dumb amerifat cunts.

[Anonymous No.14163663]

>>14163519
Lets see:
1. Need it to live
2. Amplifies taste of food
3. Needed for the simplest food preservation methods, so a requirement to have a civilization
4. Literally the resource there have been most wars over, followed by water and then fertile land

[Anonymous No.14163675]

>>14163645
>salted meat or nuts
>bad
With everything else you're just being a daft cunt about. Why would a tried and tested way of preserving something be bad? It doesn't last months on the shelf. It's ones "fortified" with oils that you need to watch out for.

[Anonymous No.14163684]

>>14163675
>Why would a tried and tested way of preserving something be bad?
Then eat everything canned. Literally everything.

Dumb, dumb, dumb amerifat cunts.

[Anonymous No.14163691]

>>14162469
Look on the good side anon, she wouldn't marry a frogposter anyway
t. indian Christian

[Anonymous No.14163696]

>>14163684
You can stop baiting now. It's horrendous

[Anonymous No.14163699]

>>14163645
>Buy salted meat
Salted meat
Salt preserved meat
Or Salt dried meat?
>Nuts
Most is roasted then salted. You don't want to talk about the roasting?
>salted beer
0,5%-0,2% maybe. But salted mineral water is common.
I do prefer eating salted compliment dish with the beer, instead.
>Salted vegetables
Salted vegetables is literally what most forms of brine vegetables are, like all forms of pickles.
Also a common preservative method for spice roots/herbs, even if brine is faster and cheaper.
>Fruits
I do prefer sugar dried vegetables over salt dried vegetables.
Doesn't matter if its sugar brine or just sugar cured.

[Anonymous No.14163704]

>>14163645
>Salting beer is the same as salting butter
Now your just being obtuse.
Also, just so you know, I can walk into any supermarket here and buy unsalted butter which is right next to the salted butter. Is the unsalted butter also "not butter"? What if I drive over to the farm in my area and buy their butter which tastes pretty similar to store bought? Is that fake too?

[Anonymous No.14163711]

>>14163704
>obtuse
That was the word I was looking for.

[Anonymous No.14163715]

>>14163699
>Salted meat
>Salt preserved meat
>Or Salt dried meat?
The point is that you would usually buy fresh meat, anything salted is a huge quality loss. It's stupid to argue over this.

[Anonymous No.14163723]

>>14163715
>literally no quality loss between salted and unsalted butter
>comparing 2 different products with two different uses like it's an argument.
Jesus Christ.

[Anonymous No.14163727]

>>14163704
>Is the unsalted butter also "not butter"?
Do some 4th grade mathematics with the nutritional information of your annatto fucked """butter""""

And read the thread how your brainwashed amerifat comrades defend that salt fucked abomination.

[Anonymous No.14163735]

>>14163723
>>literally no quality loss between salted and unsalted butter
Ok, cunt, why do they salt it?

I'll wait, you dumb fat fuck.

[Anonymous No.14163737]

>>14163727
>less than 1 gram of salt
>it's fucked and filled with chemicals guys

[Anonymous No.14163742]

>>14163737
It literally is.

How much fat?
You never even tasted real butter.

[Anonymous No.14163764]

>>14163715
I would, but salted do not improve shelf life enough compared to unsalted fresh meat.
And salt preserved meat requires watering in order to get it safe eatable, due how much salt it contains. And salt dried is limited to surface area of salt, meaning bigger = less salt.

Ground beef is unsalted because salt do not increase shelf life, and it makes the end product drier.
The same is true of most cuts.

>>14163735
Because its already 0,2-0,5% salt before they add more.
Because that is how cow milk works.
Then more is added to improve consistency, increase shelf life, and increase flavor.

[Anonymous No.14163768]

>>14163715
>Salted almonds are lower quality than unsalted almonds
At this point your arguing that a matter of taste is somehow equivalent to a measure of quality.
>I bought bread with no salt in it, which is obviously a higher quality product than bread made with salt
You just sound foolish now.

[Anonymous No.14163774]

>>14163742
I'm not reading off a label, mate. I don't even buy salted but I've literally churned and salted my own butter. Stop with your shitty argument.
>>14163735
>>14163764
Also from my experience allows for easier spreading straight from the fridge.

[Anonymous No.14163782]

>>14163764
>Because that is how cow milk works.
Sweet cream.

I literally don't know what they are feeding you over there but it's NOT real high quality butter.

[Anonymous No.14163783]

>>14160591
Lurpak definitely number 1. Kerrygold close second. I hope you don't use unsalted on bread though.

[Anonymous No.14163790]

>>14163783
>danish
Disgusting. I refuse to recognise that bastard "nation"

[Anonymous No.14163802]

>>14163774
>but I've literally churned and salted my own butter
See this is crazy to me.

[Anonymous No.14163804]

>>14163727
>Ingredients: pasteurized cream, salt
Pray tell what math I need to do to calculate the annatto added to this butter since it's not listed as an ingredient?
Or perhaps your pulling this all out of your ass?

[Anonymous No.14163805]

>>14162420
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.14163816]

>>14163802
Why?

[Anonymous No.14163818]

>>14163530
don't know about the others but kerrygold is 80% minimum

[Anonymous No.14163819]

>>14163804
The fat content, fat moron.

Do the need to disclose what they add if it's 0.00001%?

[Anonymous No.14163820]

>>14163393
What are you talking about, salted is a based European staple on all types of bread. Where the fuck are you from? I got the sense that only americucks eat unsalted.

[Anonymous No.14163826]

>>14163819
Ok so tell me. How much fat does the butter in your Romanian hellhole contain?

[Anonymous No.14163827]

>>14163816
Because they've been fucking you in the ass all your life and now you got away from it but keep fucking yourself in the ass because you're used to it.

[Anonymous No.14163834]

>>14163818
DO THE MATH FROM AMERICAN NUTRITIONAL INFORMATION

And 80 is not enough.

[Anonymous No.14163851]

>>14163819
Yes.
But more importantly, if you think the company doesn't have to disclose that the product contains annatto, and therefore doesn't, then by what divine revelation did you come by that enlightened you to this knowledge we all seem to lack? Did you visit the farms in Ireland where kerrygold is made? Are you the CEO?
Sounds like your making shit up

[Anonymous No.14163854]

>>14163790
Did Denmark hurt you?

[Anonymous No.14163863]

>>14163782
Cow milk -> pasteurization and homogenization -> Skim milk & Cream
Cream -> Soured Cream -> Butter

Cow milk should be 0,1-0,2% salt. S
And since Cream has less protein and water in it, salt amount is going to increase, because there is less liquid.
And butter is again more drained than cream. So a fivefold jump in salt content from milk to butter is basically a given.
Thats simply how it works. Then going from 0,5 to 1-2% for extra taste and flavor is another gain.

[Anonymous No.14163869]

>>14163827
I still don't get what you're on about? Even the cheapest butter in my local supermarket is unadulterated
>>14163854
No. But a girl did

[Anonymous No.14163871]

>>14163851
>Did you visit the farms in Ireland where kerrygold is made?
Yes, they have a special factory which works for the americunt market. 21% is made in Ireland, then it gets mixed with Mexican garbage. They are allowed to call it Irish. And USDA organic, because the Mexican sewer is natural.
And the US supplement market is completely unregulated, half of it is literal toxic garbage.

[Anonymous No.14163873]

>>14163834
>80 is not enough
So the EU, and the US both say butter should have at least 80% fat. Where do you live that your getting 100% fat butter?

[Anonymous No.14163877]

>>14161560
I'm from New Zealand and the Anchor is grass fed but they sell it in plain packaging for $5.
>Per 100g
>Fat, total 81.4g

[Anonymous No.14163883]

>>14163863
>Cream -> Soured Cream -> Butter
>And since Cream has less protein and water in it, salt amount is going to increase
What?

You're mentally ill.

[Anonymous No.14163885]

>>14160584
It's not a left/right issue. Your science denial isn't related to politics

[Anonymous No.14163887]

>>14163871
Source ANY of this bullshit.
>Buh buh I seen it
Show me any source at all which corroborates this

[Anonymous No.14163888]

>>14163869
I'm sorry anon

[Anonymous No.14163892]

>>14163869
>I still don't get what you're on about?
I butchered my own cow and immediately poured buckets of salt on all the meat.
I still don't get what you're on about?
I'm a totally sane and rational, totally not mindfucked human being.

[Anonymous No.14163894]

>>14163883
>He thinks all the salt is just going to bind to skim milk that is separate from the cream

[Anonymous No.14163905]

>>14163892
>I butchered my own cow and immediately poured buckets of salt on all the meat.
You did hang it on hooks right, so the dying process would work as intended?
Right? That is the entire point of drowning meat in salt: Salt curing.

[Anonymous No.14163906]

>>14163894
Salt is water soluble.
It's called sweet cream. They literally turn it into butter. It's the easiest process. But as you can imagine it's not the cheapest.


You've never tasted real high quality butter.

[Anonymous No.14163907]

>>14163885
vegetable oil is worse for you than non-hydrogenated lard or butter is the point

[Anonymous No.14163913]

>>14163892
You're legimately retarded. You know that, right?

[Anonymous No.14163918]

>>14163905
>That is the entire point of drowning meat in salt: Salt curing.
I don't know what you're talking about, meat should only come in buckets of salt or you're a baby. >>14161612


LOLOLOL do you prefer fresh unfucked meat you baby???

I'm a totally sane and rational, totally not brainwashed fat American lad.

[Anonymous No.14163922]

>>14163888
It's fine. Isabella I miss your green eyes and fair hair.
Nice trips.

[Anonymous No.14163925]

>>14163906
>Salt is water soluble.
Yes, but not protein or water separable. Which is a very different thing.
If that wasn't the case, skim milk would be saltier than whole milk.

[Anonymous No.14163932]

>>14163871
So the people who own said farm just told you, a random fucking visitor, their entire production process, which apparently includes cutting their butter with Mexican sewage, simple because you asked? Or did you follow the butter around the world and witness the entire process first hand?
Your so full of shit lmao

[Anonymous No.14163934]

>>14163925
>If that wasn't the case, skim milk would be saltier than whole milk.
Dumb shit you can't tell the difference because all milk fat is at most 3.5 or 3.6%

[Anonymous No.14163941]

>>14160206
It's better to have neither, but some margarines are less harmful than butter. Why go out of your way to minimize the nutrient density of your food?

[Anonymous No.14163950]

this thread is retarded

[Anonymous No.14163949]

>>14163925
I also have to ask, is "american whipping cream", how can I put it, "naturally" salty too?

At this point literally nothing would surprise me when it comes to that fucking hellhole.

[Anonymous No.14163955]

>>14163950
Pretty much. I regret coming in here

[Anonymous No.14163977]

>>14163907
Not non-hydrogenated vegetable oil

[Anonymous No.14163980]

>>14163977
I think he's trying to say that too much omega-6 is worse than saturated fat

[Anonymous No.14163999]

>>14163980
Which is a stupid thing to say

[Anonymous No.14164003]

>>14163999

[Anonymous No.14164005]

>>14163999
I don't know. I'm not sure even scientists know.

[Anonymous No.14164034]

>>14163949
Still waiting for Amerifats to yell "YES IT'S SALTY AND WHEN I MAKE MY OWN I PUT TEN SPOONS OF SALT IN IT!!!"

[Anonymous No.14164057]

LOLOLOL can you believe Yuropoors have unsalted olive oil??!

When I cold press my own I put a bucket of salt in it, because I'm not brainwashed and mindfucked.
Salt is natural and necessary for life and to enhance taste. Wars were fought over salt.
USA!!! FUCK YEAH!!

[Anonymous No.14164062]

>>14164005
Scientists are pretty certain. The idea of omega-6 as a big dietary evil is pseudoscience made popular by diet books.

The American Heart Association responded to it with a review of the research, which concluded that omega-6 lowers heart disease risk and the theories people have about how it's dangerous are bunk when put in context
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/circulationaha.108.191627

>Arguments for reduced LA intakes are based on the assumption that because CHD has an inflammatory component10 and because the omega-6 fatty acid, AA, is the substrate for the synthesis of a variety of proinflammatory molecules, reducing LA intakes should reduce tissue AA content, which should reduce the inflammatory potential and therefore lower the risk for CHD. The evidence, derived primarily from human studies, regarding this line of reasoning is examined below.
>AA is the substrate for the production of a wide variety of eicosanoids (20-carbon AA metabolites). Some are proinflammatory, vasoconstrictive, and/or proaggregatory, such as prostaglandin E2, thromboxane A2, and leukotriene B4. However, others are antiinflammatory/antiaggregatory, such as prostacyclin, lipoxin A4,11 and epoxyeicosatrienoic acids.12 Epoxyeicosatrienoic acids are fatty acid epoxides produced from AA by a cytochrome P450 epoxygenase. Epoxyeicosatrienoic acids also have important vasodilator properties via hyperpolarization and relaxation of vascular smooth muscle cells.13 Importantly, because the production of AA from LA is tightly regulated,14 wide variations in dietary LA (above minimal essential intakes) do not materially alter tissue AA content.15 In tracer studies, the extent of conversion of LA to AA is ≈0.2%

[Anonymous No.14164069]

>>14164062
>Scientists are pretty certain.
Like they were pretty certain about trans fat margarine and million other things?

I was talking about real science anyway. Forget those corrupt meme committees.

[Anonymous No.14164095]

>>14164069
They weren't pretty certain about trans fats, they guessed that they would be okay because it's made from fats that were okay before processing, and then after researching what the process does to the fats and their effects on health, they concluded that trans fats were bad. Trans fats being bad and omega-6/vegetable oil being good are both conclusions reached after research.

[Anonymous No.14164101]

>>14164095
>They weren't pretty certain about trans fats,
Ok child

[Anonymous No.14164116]

>>14163918
Salted butter originated in Europe tard boy

[Anonymous No.14164119]

>>14164057
You are aware that if you do make a salad and make a vinaigrette or just use olive oil...
You want to salt it, right? Alongside the pepper? To increase the taste?

I am pretty sure I can buy Salted Olive Oil as some kind of super luxury product intended only for salad.

[Anonymous No.14164140]

>>14164116
Is that why we literally never heard about it?

[Anonymous No.14164147]

>>14164140
It's really common in the british isles and nordic countries

[Anonymous No.14164169]

>>14164140
Norse Euro nobles used to pay in barrels of butter as a trade medium. With units like a "lest", which is about 8 barrels.
You could literally buy hand crafted fine art for some 24 barrels of butter. You bet its going to be salted to improve shelf life and consistency.
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My personal favorite is that serfs used to pay their taxes in fall, winter and spring via butter. Which is again going to be salted to preserve it.
This is for both clergy and nobility.

[Anonymous No.14164186]

>>14164140
Lmao way to reveal that you live in some irrelevant shithole.

[Anonymous No.14164196]

>>14164140
I'd like to quickly remind you that Turkey isn't in european, Abdiel

[Anonymous No.14164197]

>>14164169
Now tell me about streets being open sewers and lice management practices. And the wigs used to cover syphilis sores.

[Anonymous No.14164207]

>>14164186
>>14164196
It's called Austria

[Anonymous No.14164210]

>>14164101
The same people you're calling "corrupt meme committees" who you think ignore science to suggest foods for political reasons are the ones that determined that trans fats were bad and made that common knowledge. People like Robert Atkins were advocating trans fats alongside saturated fats. If you can accept from them that trans fats are bad, you can accept that omega-6 are good.

[Anonymous No.14164219]

>>14164210
>are the ones that determined that trans fats were bad
No, little kid, they determined that saturated fats were bad and fucked two generations of humans and more epigenetically.
We are still suffering from their propaganda.

[Anonymous No.14164220]

>>14164207
>turkey
>austria
Same thing

[Anonymous No.14164223]

>>14164220
Ok Tyrone

[Anonymous No.14164251]

>>14164223
Actually I'm british so abdul is more fitting.

[Anonymous No.14164263]

>>14164219
They determined both were bad, which is another thing you should be able to accept. Whatever has convinced you that saturated fats aren't bad IS the propaganda, and the dairy industry in particular has been caught doing it several times, and most of the diet book/supplement industry rests upon casting doubt in mainstream health advice in order to pave the way for their own brands of marketable bullshit

[Anonymous No.14164264]

Salted butter is like if all milk was UHT milk and when you got fresh milk somehow you immediately boiled it.
That's literally how retarded and brainwashed Americans are.

[Anonymous No.14164268]

>>14164207
>Austria has no salted butter
I find this hard to beleive

[Anonymous No.14164274]

>>14164263
>They determined both were bad
No, one poisoned two generations because they pushed it, little kid.

[Anonymous No.14164276]

>>14164268
Even cultured butters aren't popular.
Get some teebutter, aka real butter.

[Anonymous No.14164295]

>>14164264
Once again salted butter is a Euro invention but ok.

[Anonymous No.14164304]

>>14164276
I'm pretty sure I've had teebutter. It made no lasting impression on me

[Anonymous No.14164311]

because of literal propaganda started to sell more margarine

[Anonymous No.14164329]

>>14164304
You forgot to add a bucket of salt to improve taste and recognize it as butter?

Also, high quality organic teebutter is heavenly.

[Anonymous No.14164335]

Damm, Euros really can't keep their jealousy of Americans in their pants, do you cry yourselves to sleep every night over the big scary Americans?

[Anonymous No.14164336]

>>14164329
>improve taste
I mean "improve taste"

[Anonymous No.14164344]

>>14164197
>Now tell me about streets being open sewers
Much less a problem in the North, due winters meaning less yearly harvest. Which means smaller cities.
Still a huge problem.
No sensible way to deal with it as exposed water will freeze over for months at a time.

>Lice
No sensible way to deal with that. Cut all body hair short, possible get some exotic random ointment that may or may not be poisonous to the lice.
But its going to be everywhere on the farm animals, so its going to be everywhere else as well.

[Anonymous No.14164346]

>>14164274
You're not able to discuss this rationally

[Anonymous No.14164357]

>>14164346
You're an idealistic and naive little kid

You don't understand this saying "Science advances one funeral at a time."

Humans are fucking monkeys. Literally. Especially the "educated ones" who only use their talent to fool themselves and justify their cult better.

[Anonymous No.14164367]

>>14160206
bokay oomer

[Anonymous No.14164403]

>>14161612
wow so I should just over salt my baked goods yeah okay

[Anonymous No.14164418]

>>14164357
And you're a gullible idiot that looks for the least likely thing to believe just to be contrarian.

[Anonymous No.14164483]

>>14160202
Margarine and vegetable oil are cheap to make. There was an undeniable lobby that sponsored research showing that animal fats are more dangerous and put you at risk for cardiovascular disease. These studies showed high calorie, high fat diets are bad for you and it was manipulated to sell cheap vegetable oil and carb heavy snacks. Honeynut Cheerios is healthier than eating a pound of bacon, but that doesn't mean it's good for your heart or lowers your cholesterol.

Butter is now associated with retarded recipes from the 50s that contained absurd amounts of calories.

[Anonymous No.14164496]

>>14164483
>These studies showed high calorie, high fat diets are bad for you and it was manipulated to sell cheap vegetable oil and carb heavy snacks.
You think all the research about saturated fat is just looking at people eating too many calories? That's all they looked at for 70 years? That's what the nobel prizes were awarded for?

[Anonymous No.14164583]

>>14164483
>Honeynut Cheerios is healthier than eating a pound of bacon
no it's not

[Anonymous No.14164592]

>>14164403
Don't bother, amerifats are literally insane

[Anonymous No.14164600]

>>14164418
Ok child

[Anonymous No.14164664]

>>14164496
>Saturated fats
You see you already misconstrued that saturated fats=animal fats like butter and only those. What are some of the most common fats used today, coconut oil and palm oil, both saturated vegetable fats. Ethnicities that predominantly consume these have huge prevalence of cardiovascular disease.

[Anonymous No.14164692]

>>14164664
>You see you already misconstrued that saturated fats=animal fats like butter and only those.
Where did I say that?
>What are some of the most common fats used today, coconut oil and palm oil, both saturated vegetable fats
Those are unhealthy as well because of their high saturated fat contents, but there's a specific product called "vegetable oil" that's an oil low in saturated fat that we're talking about as well.

[Anonymous No.14164871]

I've made my own butter by putting heavy cream into a water bottle and shaking it for like 15 minutes.
It was not worth. It tasted like generic unsalted stick butter.

[Anonymous No.14164898]

>>14164871
>It was not worth. It tasted like generic unsalted stick butter.
Like I said. Americans are literally insane.

[Anonymous No.14165086]

>>14162469
99% of Indian girls age like milk

[Anonymous No.14165533]

If it's not fermented butter, salted to 1.2 - 1.6% and with a fat content of 80-82%, it's SHIT and you may as well be eating vaseline.

[Anonymous No.14165546]

>>14160249
>(rancid vegetable oil)
Rancid milk fat is any better?

[Anonymous No.14165582]

>>14160205
>kerrygold
literally came here to say they missed the best butter

[Anonymous No.14165666]

Average weight ITT: 300lbs

[Anonymous No.14165682]

>>14162469
haha fuckin loser

[Anonymous No.14165700]

>>14165666
that's any large enough group of americans

[Anonymous No.14165759]

>>14164692
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetable_oil#Particular_oils
As you can see the most popular vegetable oils are also the ones high in saturated fats. You have to be very particular to avoid them and can't just assume something made with "vegetable oil" is the healthier choice.

[Anonymous No.14165781]

>>14165700
Judging by the obsession with Americans I'd say this thread is mostly europoors

[Anonymous No.14165783]

>>14165546
The hydrogenation process that makes margarine out of vegetable oil makes it into saturated and trans fats. That's the whole reason it stays solid.

[Anonymous No.14165839]

>>14165759
The product known as "vegetable oil" is soybean oil. Other vegetable oils are clearly advertised as whatever particular oil they are. Palm oil will be sold as palm oil, peanut oil as peanut oil, coconut as coconut oil, etc but vegetable oil is soybean oil.

[Anonymous No.14165844]

>>14165781
any large enough group of americans will average at 300lbs at least

stay mad

[Anonymous No.14165924]

>>14165839
Not always
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/cfrsearch.cfm?fr=101.4

[Anonymous No.14165960]

>>14165844
Repeat your original post again tard

[Anonymous No.14165983]

>>14160202
I dont see President in this list

[Anonymous No.14165987]

>>14160232
>>14160205
kerrygold is good, but honestly, every half-decent big grocery store now carries at least 5 all natural good butters now, so i just buy the one that's on sale. can't tell the difference

[Anonymous No.14165996]

>>14160615
>>14160898
i like ghirardelli dark chocolate brownies. box calls for 1/2 cup veggie oil. i use half cup of melted kerrygold instead. so good

[Anonymous No.14166026]

>>14165924
I don't see what you're using from that link. "Vegetable oil" is soybean oil, but they can label hydrogenated blends of soybean oil + other oil as "all-vegetable shortening" like Crisco does which doesn't require much of a keen eye to avoid. The phrases "hydrogenated," "shortening," "palm oil," and "coconut oil" are always apparent and obvious when it's not just vegetable oil, which is soybean oil. A bottle of vegetable oil will always just be soybean oil, and anything made with palm or coconut oil will always specify "palm oil" or "coconut oil" and never say vegetable oil

[Anonymous No.14166086]

>>14165960
>tard
Ok lard

[Anonymous No.14166137]

>>14160205
FPBP

[Anonymous No.14166145]

>>14160202
it doesn't get hate you just wrote that to incite a thread

[Anonymous No.14166297]

>>14166026
In big print it can say vegetable oil but under the ingredient list it can be only a fraction soybean or canola while a large fraction is palm, enough to render it equivalent or worse than butter.

[Anonymous No.14166318]

>>14160477
Wow, a cow made of butter. My girls would love it. In fact, the first sentence Caroline ever said was "I like butter"

[Anonymous No.14166320]

>>14166026
>>14166297
Your assertion that something labeled vegetable oil has to be entirely soybean oil is baseless and actual fda labeling guidelines provide a great deal of room for obfuscation. You've been moving this goal post for awhile now. I think my original point is clear that butter's loss in popularity is much more marketing than factual health considerations.

[Anonymous No.14166373]

>>14166297
"Vegetable oil" is always 100% soybean oil. There are other products with similar names, which are blends distinguished by extra phrases like "shortening" and "hydrogenated"
>>14166320
The link you posted doesn't disagree with me. If you ever see "Vegetable Oil" for sale, it is 100% of the time, pure soybean oil. If it's ever anything other than pure soybean oil, it's distinguished as something else, like "all vegetable shortening" which is a solid fat and not the least bit easy to confuse for vegetable oil, or "hydrogenated vegetable oil" that may be a blend of hydrogenated vegetable oils, the specifics of which will be listed in parenthesis immediately after in the ingredients list.