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[Anonymous No.14324428]

I really like coffee and I am tired of using filter, should I buy a french press or moka pot ? what is the best for taste ?

[Anonymous No.14324431]

Both very different kinds of coffee, and which tastes "best" is entirely subjective.

[Anonymous No.14324439]

>>14324431
/thread

[Anonymous No.14324447]

>>14324428
Paper filter is best. Smoother taste, less viscous, less bitter, no grit in your last sip. Just perfect. I've tried other ways but always go back to paper.

[Anonymous No.14324448]

>>14324431
what is the best for rough, powerful, and maybe bitter coffee ? I personally like it like this

[Anonymous No.14324456]

>>14324448
Bitterness is device agnostic. You can coax it out of any bean simply by changing your water ratio.

[Anonymous No.14324461]

>>14324448
Double espresso to the dome.

Drinking a cup of the el salva black honey. Shits so delicious. I'll pull a few shots in a bit.

[Anonymous No.14324474]

>>14324456
You can't make any light roast bitter when doing pourover

[Anonymous No.14324476]

I personally like using a moka pot.

[Anonymous No.14324537]

>>14324474
Sure you can. Grind finer.

[Anonymous No.14324573]

I just stick to a half-decent instant because I know if start drinking proper coffee I'll never be able to go back and I'll autistically spend lots of time, money, and effort trying to perfect things

[Anonymous No.14324604]

Aeropress

[Anonymous No.14324624]

>>14324428
I prefer pour overs with a reusable metal mesh filter. Just set the electric kettle to 190 F and pour some fresh grounds in then pour the water over once hot.

[Anonymous No.14324705]

french press is a pain in the cock to clean the grinds out of the bottom if you're not tipping them into the sink (which you shouldn't do since it'll fuck your sink). i rate aeropress over french press just coz it's so fucking easy to clean and you won't get grit/sediment coz it's still filtered. i prefer moka pot but it's more effort and more like espresso than americano, but you can always top it up.

[Anonymous No.14325118]

>>14324448
Cuban or Turkish.

[Anonymous No.14325161]

>>14324573
This is the final redpill

[Anonymous No.14325164]

>>14324573
Can confirm this is the case. Can also confirm it is enjoyable and worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.14325536]

If you aren't afraid of the fussery that comes with a french press or moka pot, take a smidgen extra time and get a vacuum siphon.

[Anonymous No.14325563]

I have a question regarding coffee

[Anonymous No.14325626]

Its so fucking good.16.5 in, sliiiiiightly more than a 2:1. Very enjoyable first shot, I'll restrict the grind a touch more and see how she reacts.

[Anonymous No.14325764]

>>14325626
How long did that one take? Do you do any kind of preinfusion? Use the flow rate tracker at all?

[Anonymous No.14325793]

>>14325764
~10second preinfusion at 1.5bar until I get the puck hydrated, then up to 9 declining to 6bar over the next 25-30 seconds maybe? I'll run the timer next time. Hopefully Gabor ships my profiler soon so I can post some graphs. I just don't understand people claiming it takes kilos of coffee to dial in espresso. I guessed a grind on a completely new roast profile and pulled a more than decent shot. The next one will be even better.

[Anonymous No.14325822]

>>14324428
I have both. I like the French press for it's simplicity. Pour hot water over coarsely-ground coffee, let it steep for 4-5mins, press the plunger down, and pour that shizz in your cup. Boom. Cant get any easier. You do gotta dial in your grind, water, temp, and time, though, and that varies from user to user, but even a dummy can figure it out

The moka pot is more of a PITA to use, but it's worth it if you want strong, concentrated coffee. It's the closest thing you're going to get for less than $50. There's even a steam wand attachment you can get, if you're wanting to make a pseudo-latte.

The French press works well for me when I'm about to leave for work. Pour the water in, put my shoes on, grab my computer bag, and fill my travel cup up as I'm leaving. The moka pot is for being a fucking nerd on my day off and/or showing off to my friends

[Anonymous No.14325824]

>>14325793
Agreed. Typically if it takes me more than 3 shots to get it 90% then the coffee probably sucks. If you want to maximize texture, and get it to be a 10/10 it might take some more noodling I guess.

[Anonymous No.14325892]

>>14324428
I have both. I use both.

[Anonymous No.14325902]

Cowboy coffee
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[Anonymous No.14326196]

Just bought a moka pot, save me looking tirelessly all over the internet and recommend me a coffee brand to buy. Looking for ground espresso.

[Anonymous No.14326227]

>>14326196
You'll want those vacuum packed bricks. Lavazza is the gold standard, particularly their crema e gusto. I prefer the rosso though, more nutty taste to it.

[Anonymous No.14326252]

moka is the big brain choice desu

[Anonymous No.14326833]

>>14325563
based /fit/poster

[Anonymous No.14327208]

>>14325902
Burned coffee
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[Anonymous No.14327351]

any recommendations on a coffee grinder? getting tired of using my hand grinder. right now I make pour over coffee but want to soon invest in espresso

[Anonymous No.14327524]

>>14325563

[Anonymous No.14327539]

i use one of these

[Anonymous No.14327568]

>>14324428
Aero Press is pretty great, plus you can take it camping/hiking/travelling with you!

[Anonymous No.14328159]

>>14327568
>hnggggggggggggggggggg


It almost tastes good guys, I swear!

[Anonymous No.14328629]

>>14328159
>oh no there's some kind of anticoffee magic in my tube that makes it all taste bad!!

[Anonymous No.14328709]

>>14327568
>boiling water in plastic
Yikes.

[Anonymous No.14328798]

>>14328629
Its a paper filtered french press you overpaid for. You can take anything that doesn't have an outlet with you camping/hiking/traveling. My dad has a technivorm in the back of his rv.

[Anonymous No.14328917]

>>14328798
It's a convenient, easy to clean, paper filtered way to make immersion coffee with precise control over brew time. 40 bucks ain't shit, especially since you should have dropped at least 200 on a grinder. People can spend their money how they like as well, for instance, some coffee dorks spend as much on their scale as on their espresso maker.

[Anonymous No.14329033]

>>14328917
Knowing how to brew coffee gives you precise control over brew time. Its not 3x more convenient than pinching a v60 filter shut and tossing it near a trash can.

>dropped at least 200 on a grinder

If you're dropping 200 on a grinder for an aeropress, you're a fucking bozo and someone needs to be taking care of you. You're likely eligible for meals on wheels.

>People can spend their money how they like

I smoke cigars that cost more than aps.

> spend as much on their scale

Clearly a lunar in the picture. I'm well aware of how to waste money. AP isn't worth 1/5th of the msrp. You got scammed by a frisbee maker.

[Anonymous No.14329041]

>>14324428
i use an aeropress with metal filters to pull concentrated ""espresso like"" shots, never had a bad time. then again, i like my coffee rich and oily.

[Anonymous No.14329116]

>>14329033
I own more than a dozen brewers and an ek43. I prefer the aeropress to all of them. V60 is decent, but you don't get your brew times to within 2 seconds plus or minus consistently. The aeropress is a great brewer, so is the v60, so is the wave and other wavelikes. The aeropress is really the only immersion brewer that's widely available that can make a coffee in 2 minutes or less with great results. Clever drippers in concept are cool, but they stall out all the time. It fills a niche, it does a good job at it, yes the company makes silly claims and so do some people who use it.

[Anonymous No.14329130]

>>14329033
post all these alleged amazing french presses that are 1/5th the price of an aeropress or shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.14329176]

Frenchpress is pretty damn good, I think the point is that the longer infusion time allows for a lower temperature, so you still get good flavored coffee with less acidity
however consider that you still need to clean it up every time, so for that reason I still prefer to use a regular paper filter most times

[Anonymous No.14329186]

>>14329116
>V60 is decent, but you don't get your brew times to within 2 seconds plus or minus consistently.

Mine are... I coldbrew anything older than 5 days though.

>>14329130
Same place ikea, the sharper image, and everyone else selling a chinese fp get them from.

https://world.taobao.com/item/22174088137.htm

I'm debating ordering 20-25 of them from a factory with slightly finer screens to give out for xxxmas.

[Anonymous No.14329321]

>>14329186
>mine are
promise you they aren't

[Anonymous No.14329405]

>>14329321
Not that hard if you don't have some form of palsy.

[Anonymous No.14329418]

>>14324428
I use a chemex with a metal filter I found on amazon and it's great and fast.

[Anonymous No.14329498]

>>14329405
I've made thousands. You'll get more variation than an aeropress. Is what it is, doesn't make a particularly meaningful difference on the brew

[Anonymous No.14329559]

How can I tell if my espresso machine isn’t reaching optimal water temp? I usually get 185-190F after temp surfing and testing water poured from the grouphead into a glass, curious if that reflects temperature loss from pouring into a glass or if that means my water is too cold in the boiler.

[Anonymous No.14329591]

been drinking and ready for an impulse buy
recommend me something to make espresso with my dudes

[Anonymous No.14329671]

>>14329591
You can get a scratch and dent flair classic for 139. They don't come with the stainless steel tamper for free anymore, so I'd probably snag that AND the pressure gauge. What grinder do you have?

[Anonymous No.14329698]

>>14329559
That's likely from heat lost to the glass and air. Your temp is likely pretty good at the group

[Anonymous No.14329794]

>>14324573
I mean, if you've got nothing better to do with your free time, why not? You may even get a good cup of coffee out of it.

[Anonymous No.14329998]

>>14328709
>boiling
Something's wrong if it's still boiling after taking it off the heat.

[Anonymous No.14330268]

>>14328709
if you put boiling water on your grounds your coffee is fucked by then anyways

[Anonymous No.14330304]

>>14330268
Not even remotely true.

[Anonymous No.14330305]

>>14330268
I thought you wanted water just off the boil for things like lighter roasts?

[Anonymous No.14330324]

>all these different methods devised to make coffee palatable
Quit pretending coffee is anything other than a legal stimulant. The taste is shit. People wouldn't keep making different ways to brew it if that weren't the case.

[Anonymous No.14330337]

>>14330305
anything over ~60C leaches and degrades organics

[Anonymous No.14330350]

>>14330324
You can just tell us you're 15 and your tastebuds haven't developed off of Mt Dew yet

[Anonymous No.14330356]

>>14330337
And yet light roasted coffee tastes best with water right off the boil. Go ahead and brew some coffee with 60c water.
>Leaches and degrades organics
Just lol

[Anonymous No.14330362]

>>14330324
You've never had a good coffee. I would agree that most coffee is trash. Stuff from Starbucks for instance is pretty gross. Fortunately, good coffee is pretty much an entirely different beverage.

[Anonymous No.14330368]

>>14330362
Starbucks have perfectly servicable espresso

[Anonymous No.14330409]

>>14330362
>You've never had a good coffee
You got that right. Because it doesn't exist. I drink serviceable coffee and by that I mean it makes me alert. If meth was legal I'd use that.

[Anonymous No.14330431]

>>14330368
Unquestionably incorrect. What the hell is wrong with you?

>>14330409
>Haven't had it
>Therefore it doesn't exist
Checks out

[Anonymous No.14330433]

>>14330409
If your sole goal is to get caffeinated, buy caffeine pills.

[Anonymous No.14330716]

>>14330356
So uh, I acquired a sous vide and wondering what happens if I do like a 24hr 130f brew or something dumb.

[Anonymous No.14330801]

>>14330368
>Starbucks have perfectly servicable espresso
Starbucks' flash-roasting process for their espresso makes it taste awful.

The only reason to go to Starbucks is if the location has a Clover and a stock of the good single-origin coffees they've been carrying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntbVGGMu_Ac

[Anonymous No.14330810]

>>14330716
https://recipes.anovaculinary.com/recipe/sous-vide-cold-brew-coffee

[Anonymous No.14331253]

>>14330431
Only reason to fall for obvious bait is to bump the thread.

[Anonymous No.14331935]

Hey, /ck/. Pic related is the most popular coffee in Israel and is loved by many ethnicities. Have you ever tried it? What do you think about it?

[Anonymous No.14331960]

>>14330801
>>14330368

Starbucks beans always look disgusting. You can tell it will taste shit before even trying it. Their beans are practically black and always really greasy.
Im not sure about how they do their roasting but the other anon is probably right, they just blast them quickly

[Anonymous No.14332183]

>>14324573
So what's wrong with that?

[Anonymous No.14332190]

>>14328798
>involves pressure and immersion
>French press
No, it's not. Try again retard.

[Anonymous No.14332191]

drink tea instead, tis better

[Anonymous No.14332345]

>>14332191
I wish I could enjoy tea more, I've never really had that "eureka" moment (like with coffee) of having/brewing great tea before.

[Anonymous No.14332361]

>buy kettle
>rust spots develop within a day
>a stain develops outside
>have to send it back

Why does Hamilton Beach make such garbage products?

[Anonymous No.14332398]

From a scale from 1 to 10 how much of a pleb am i for drinking instant coffee?

[Anonymous No.14332400]

Does anybody else feel like this kettle is heavy-handed? I'm having trouble pouring slowly out of this one after using one without the heating bits at the bottom.

[Anonymous No.14333252]

Any good moka pot brands on Amazon?

[Anonymous No.14333842]

I only drink instant coffee with powdered creamer and I am perfectly happy with it

[Anonymous No.14334127]

>>14333842
>>14332398
I like to grind my own beans and then fuck up every aspect of pourover. At least you guys know what you're doing

[Anonymous No.14334169]

>>14334127
anon please it's not that hard
always look for ways to improve, I'm sure you can brew a delicious cup if you try hard enough

[Anonymous No.14334565]

>>14324428
Brew coffee with moka pot. Froth hot milk with french press.

[Anonymous No.14336189]

>>14324573
Try getting a french press and a decent grinder, the normal method or Hoffman technique don't take much money and time to get down.
The real autism and money comes with espresso.

[Anonymous No.14336270]

>>14329698
thanks anon,
I tested it again today and I was getting 165-170 at first, then 172-180 after temp surfing and running about 16 oz or so of water through the filter, would this be too low?
Trying to diagnose a sour shot, I'm guessing it might be a grind issue (lack of precise adjustment) but I've got a better grinder on the way anyway.

[Anonymous No.14336988]

>>14324428
Go cowboy mode

[Anonymous No.14336991]

https://ping-pong-balls.blogspot.com/2012/03/so-youve-bought-delonghi-kg89-how-to.html
Just did this to my kg79 and its pretty cool. Didn't do the stepless mod, just the mod to let you rotate more than 1 revolution.
I didnt bother with the stepless since its such an inconsistent grinder anyway, having a tiny bit more adjustment won't make a difference
Not sure how using superglue instead of screws helps though

Also WHEN WILL THE M47 PHOENIX BE BACK IN STOCK FUCK ILL JUST BUY A 1zspresso jx if it doesnt come back soon

[Anonymous No.14337138]

>>14326196
Lavazza

[Anonymous No.14337422]

>>14336270
Those temps do seem low. How long do you wait for your machine to heat up before using it?

[Anonymous No.14337431]

I tried adding a bit of cinnamon to my coffee this morning and it tasted like pure comfy.

[Anonymous No.14337436]

>>14324705
You can tip it the sink, I've been doing it for years with no problems. Even if it clogs, there are easy ways to clean drains these days.

[Anonymous No.14337438]

>>14337431
Try adding Cardamon. It's what the OGs do.

[Anonymous No.14337687]

>>14336991
Seems like a lot of work when the Capresso Infinity, a true all-metal conical burr grinder with no screws in the grind path and sharp blades, is the same price.

[Anonymous No.14337704]

>>14337687
Not that much work, took me maybe 10 minutes. I did it since I already had it - not recommending you buy one just to do this modification

[Anonymous No.14337735]

>>14337422
30 minutes, then I’ll usually run 4oz of water through it

[Anonymous No.14338267]

>>14337735
Just pid it moron.

[Anonymous No.14338296]

>>14327539
Based Vietbro
These things are seriously underrated. Makes delicious strong coffee, and cleanup is extremely convenient.

[Anonymous No.14338837]

how do you get some decent creamy milky addition to plain coffee?
yogurt seems the perfectly consistency, but it gets incredibly sour when added to coffee, buttermilk seems good as well but I'd imagine will have the same effect
is there a secret method to get milky enough but not overly sweet?

[Anonymous No.14338990]

>>14338837
Yeah it's called milk

[Anonymous No.14339132]

>>14338837
Half and half is an old standby for good reason. You can also just use heavy cream.

[Anonymous No.14339264]

>>14334565
This.

[Anonymous No.14339295]

thoughts on decaf?

[Anonymous No.14339314]

>>14324573
Dont clean it with your dick?

[Anonymous No.14339353]

>>14324428
The biggest thing for taste is your coffee bean. Both French press and moka pot can make good coffeez

[Anonymous No.14339404]

Messing around with my Flair, and I'm getting shots that have this, I don't know how to describe it, peppery flavor in my throat? Is that the acidity of the coffee?

[Anonymous No.14340480]

I make “cappuccinos” with my moka pot as a treat, and use my french press for everyday coffee. It depends on what you like, if you like milk based coffee/coffee shots go for a moka.

[Anonymous No.14341095]

>>14339132
but what is heavy cream?
I don't even know what is the "cream" americans use on shit
what is it actually, and how do you make it?

[Anonymous No.14341117]

>>14341095
It's also called whipping cream. It's the fattiest part of the milk that naturally separates to the top, skimmed off and sold on it's own. Half and half is milk and heavy cream mixed back together for a consistency in the middle.

It's what you use to make whipped cream and butter, and because of its high fat level doesn't curdle when used in soups and sauces.

>Americans
The fuck you smoking that it is any different from what they use in Britain, France, Germany, etc?

[Anonymous No.14341125]

What options do I have if I am a child who likes steamed milkies with my coffee?

[Anonymous No.14341131]

Percolator>press>drip

[Anonymous No.14341209]

>>14341125
Grow up and stop being a troll about how people enjoy their coffee.

[Anonymous No.14341216]

>>14341131
>The one that burns the shit out of my coffee is the best!

[Anonymous No.14341222]

>>14338837
evaporated milk

[Anonymous No.14341223]

>>14341209
I was being genuine.

[Anonymous No.14341249]

>>14341216
>I'm unable to use a simple tool without burning my coffee!

[Anonymous No.14341271]

>>14341249
percs do that by default, no way around it

[Anonymous No.14341285]

>>14341117
not that anon but he was probably asking specifically about the heavy part. in aus it's usually called thickened cream, and it's about 35% milk fat. heavy cream in US is 36-40%, but thickened cream is 35%. We also have double cream here which is >48%, and probably a bunch of other random fucking labels. so cream's cream sure, but the fat content and texture will vary wildly country to country even when they have the same name.
also only you fat cunts would put cream in coffee just use milk jesus christ.

[Anonymous No.14341291]

>>14341271
Over-extracted, yes, burnt, no

[Anonymous No.14341385]

>>14341285
>also only you fat cunts would put cream in coffee just use milk jesus christ.
You use less than you would milk, and it tastes better.

>>14341291
Nope, boiling water burns the volatiles that make up coffee flavors. And especially when you have it recirculating brewed coffee back over the grounds.

[Anonymous No.14341386]

>>14324428
Toddy cold brew has ruined me. French press and everything else are gathering dust now. Makes pure jet fuel from 12oz of beans at a time and keeps extremely well in the fridge for 2 weeks. I just warm up some in a cup and add water from the kettle and it's a smooth low acid kick in the pants.

[Anonymous No.14341441]

Whyis my french press always super bitter :(

[Anonymous No.14341448]

>>14341386
I've got Oxo's version, has a switch to start draining into the flask, and can use Aeropress filters.

[Anonymous No.14341452]

>>14341441
You leave it too long. You might have too fine a grind, as well.

If you're making more than a cup at a time, you should pour the rest into a thermos or carafe, as well.

[Anonymous No.14341456]

>>14341452
i do Eight minutes. Twenty-eight grind on the baratza encore. i'll try leaving it shorter next time though.

[Anonymous No.14341490]

>>14341448
I nearly picked that one up myself. It's really good stuff.

[Anonymous No.14341501]

>>14341456
That's about twice as long as you should steep.

[Anonymous No.14341504]

>>14341456
Also, french press should be at a very course grind, that's more like a medium-course.

[Anonymous No.14342028]

>>14324428
french press is absolute shit tier, it's just a tea pot with a built in strainer.
good coffee is made via pressure, not immersion.
end of.

[Anonymous No.14342034]

>>14341441
see
>>14342028

[Anonymous No.14342199]

>>14342034
>>14342028
False. Good coffee is made with good coffee beans. If your coffee is bitter it’s because your beans are over cooked trash.

[Anonymous No.14342239]

>>14342199
you autistic faggots have no idea. french press is fucking trash. moka pot or don't bother. do it properly or fuck off

[Anonymous No.14342269]

>>14342028
Cupping is basically a french press, you have shit beans and don't know how to brew if you cant get good coffee out of a french press.

Also moka pots are mediocre, shitty temperature control and a measly 3 bars of pressure making you wish you had an espresso instead.

[Anonymous No.14342381]

>>14342028
Espresso purism is retarded, you don’t really like coffee if you claim this

[Anonymous No.14342396]

>>14342199
>>14342269
>>14342381
>t. seething frenchpressfags

[Anonymous No.14342402]

>>14324428
This is now coffee gen
Previous thread >>14299740
>>14328089
>>14332362

[Anonymous No.14342472]

>>14341117
its because cream on its own isn't that popular here and label mistranslations
does anyone know how to make it though? is the creamy part separated through fermentation like buttermilk

[Anonymous No.14342487]

>>14341441
my taste just fine, you're supposed to pour in water a little colder than you would other methods, like 95°C, the longer infusion time ensures it gets the taste but not the acidic bitterness
its the whole point of the press

[Anonymous No.14342492]

Will you be tasting any of these high quality coffee beans sold off at the latest ACE auction?

[GINA, from VA No.14342518]

>>14342492
wtf even is this?
is this where epstein gets his coffee?

[Anonymous No.14342539]

>>14342518
It's where the source green coffee bean for all your "$25 for 12 oz bag" premium roasted coffee comes from.

[Anonymous No.14342545]

stop being a poorfag and invest in a real espresso machine. You won't regret it.

[GINA, from VA No.14342618]

>>14342539
how many places run auctions?
do people need to purchase via an auction?

[Anonymous No.14342624]

>>14342472
you milk a cow and the fat sinks and the water rises because of density differences it's not that complicated hoss. that's why it's called skim milk, it's literally skimmed off the top of the milk bucket

[Anonymous No.14342720]

>>14342618
If you're a huge subscription roaster like Coffee Collective, you have enough volume to go directly to high-end coffee farms and negotiate multi-year supply deal with them, bypassing the auction process. Otherwise, you're either participating in the auctions or buying from green bean distributors who will buy large lots on auctions then divide them up for smaller roasters, taking their fee in the process.

[GINA, from VA No.14342744]

>>14342720
fascinating

[Anonymous No.14342792]

>>14342381
I don’t have a French press and I only drink straight shots if I go to a cafe, I just think you’re a retard

[Anonymous No.14342863]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZcZMGx15QBU
Might buy this lads.

[Anonymous No.14343012]

>>14341291
I would say burned, or cooked applies here. The brewed coffee is boiled over and over, giving it a distinct cooked flavor

[Anonymous No.14343017]

>>14341441
It's the coffee you are using. I would say it's very unlikely that you ground too fine, used water that is too hot, or let it sit too long. The reason I say this is because mine tastes great when I grind about the same as I do for v60, use boiling water, and let it steep for sometimes 12 minutes or more.

[Anonymous No.14343106]

>>14342863
Why? It's clearly worse than a flair in every way, and costs as much.

[Anonymous No.14343172]

>>14343106
looks more practical to me.

[Anonymous No.14343175]

>>14343172
How in the hell does it look more practical?

[Anonymous No.14343190]

>>14342028
This, French press is easily the worst brewing method, especially if you don't have a good grinder.
Aeropress is the best for brewed coffee, but proper espresso just can't be beat.

[Anonymous No.14343194]

>>14342863
Why would you spend nearly $400 on a
redditor endorsed moka pot? An actual espresso machine is not that much more.

[Anonymous No.14343208]

Redpill time retards:

NEARLY ALL BREWING METHODS CAN PRODUCE COFFEE OF TOP TIER QUALITY AND IF YOURS DOESN'T, THE PROBLEM IS YOU

[Anonymous No.14343342]

>>14343208
>NEARLY ALL
Agreed, some methods just aren't worth waiting your precious time or coffee with when you have better alternatives. There's more to it than the resulting coffee.
>French press/Turkish
Sludgy, horrible mouth feel, annoying to cleanup, slow to brew, requires a very good grinder to get good results
>V60/chemex
Extremely slow and manual process, a huge waste of time. Eye candy for third wave cafes, they usually upcharge you for the experience. Literally just a glorified drip machine. Produces weak and usually underextracted coffee. Have fun staring at a cone for 5 minutes while your coffee gets cold. You also need to keep disposable filters around.
>Pod machines
Obvious.
>THE PROBLEM IS YOU
Yes, you can condition yourself to enjoy shitty coffee, like most people. Or you can use your brain to figure out what brew method you like best.

[Anonymous No.14343489]

>>14343342
>Produces weak and usually underextracted coffee
CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE WHO IS TOO RETARDED TO FIGURE OUT A BREW METHOD

[Anonymous No.14343578]

>>14343172
LOL. Yeah it looks nice. Thats about it. Def wouldn't be purchasing it as a solo machine.


>>14343489
Underextracted with a 5 minute brew time. Sounds like he needs a better grinder. Or you know, watch a youtube video.

[Anonymous No.14343620]

Close up of some rehydrated castillo

[Anonymous No.14343625]

>>14343620
Here's the roast graph for that

[Anonymous No.14343637]

>>14343208
>t. seething pressfag

[Anonymous No.14343646]

>>14343637
ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A MORON WHO HAS BEEN DEFEATED BY A COFFEE GADGET

[Anonymous No.14343647]

>>14343489
I figured it out, but then I tried some other methods. The aeropress just does the filtered brew better, faster and more consistently than any pourover while also being more versatile. My pourover cone is only used for filtering bacon fat now.
>>14343578
>needs a better grinder
>watch a youtube video
Like the siphon pot, pourovers are just a prop that justify charging $5 for a cup of coffee at a cafe. But since you mentioned YouTube I'm guessing you're more into this for the spectacle than the actual coffee. You also sound underage so I doubt you've actually had much good coffee anyway.

[Anonymous No.14343657]

>>14343647
>I figured it out
>Produces weak and usually underextracted coffee
PICK ONE YOU BRAINLET

[Anonymous No.14343691]

>>14343657
Seethe more pourover cuck. Your underextracted piss water must be causing caffeine withdrawal.

[Anonymous No.14343713]

>>14343691
I HAVE NO BREW METHOD AFFILIATIONS I ROTATE BETWEEN THEM FREQUENTLY
IF YOU THINK A STANDARD BREW METHOD ALWAYS PRODUCES UNDEREXTRACTION YOU ARE A MONGOLOID PLAIN AND SIMPLE
TAKE
THE
L

WEBM RELATED, IT'S YOU

[Anonymous No.14343743]

>>14343647
Drinking some fantastic peruvian typica right now. 3:32 brew time, 15g in 240 out. You catch any supermarket beans on sale lately?

>>14343625
Looking good!

[Anonymous No.14343827]

>>14343713
I didn't say always. I have made great pourovers for myself but other people always underextract them in my experience. I just don't like the pourover ritual and I prefer more extracted coffee with more body.
>>14343743
I used to roast with a behmor, easily the best coffee I've had. Thinking of getting back into it.
Lucked out on some fresh Ethiopian last week actually. Pretty good, but I really want a good central american coffee.
My recipe these days is 20g fine ground coffee, 230g water at 203F, 2:30 brew, using an able fine filter. Been thinking of experimenting with longer brews and coarser grinds but this is giving me good results, strong but balanced.

[Anonymous No.14343845]

>>14342624
Fat rises, you have it backwards.

[Anonymous No.14343850]

>>14343827
> I prefer more extracted coffee with more body
LOOK AT THIS GUY, HE CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO INCREASE EXTRACTION OR BODY WITH A BREW METHOD

DEFEATED BY A SMALL PLASTIC FUNNEL
S-S-S-SHAAAAAAAAAAMEFUL

[Anonymous No.14343876]

>>14343850
(You)

[Anonymous No.14343898]

>>14343827
I've got an ethiopian honey in rotation and I'm doing an el salvador black honey for my second cup. Behmors are pretty trash unless you're jamming a fan into the door immediately when you're done roasting. That hot oven TRAPS heat and overroasts from your stop point.

[Anonymous No.14343963]

>>14343898
>unless you're jamming a fan into the door immediately when you're done roasting
Yep that's what I did. Also preheating, roasting a half pound on the full pound setting, etc. Not a perfect machine but it was way better than a popcorn popper and really got me hooked on good coffee.
What do you use to roast?

[Anonymous No.14344007]

>>14343963
Modded popper. The important part is that tc4+ I've got wired into it, so I'm just using the popper until it burns out, then I'll fabricate something custom. Ethiopian koke honey or Brazilian Maragogipe for my roast later?

[Anonymous No.14344049]

>>14325536
Isn't a vacuum siphon just a more complex Mocca Drip Filter?
I get that it looks damn sexy

[Anonymous No.14344056]

>>14344007
>packaging on the relay cut open

RIP if your finger even grazes it

[Anonymous No.14344094]

>>14343342
>Having so many shit opinions
>Doesn't list the genuinely bad coffee methods, percolator and "cowboy" pot

[Anonymous No.14344126]

>>14344007
Brazilian.
Looks like a fun project. What batch sizes do you use? Do you still have to stir manually?

[Anonymous No.14344127]

>>14344056
I cut it open to make sure it was a geniune fotek.


https://www.instructables.com/id/The-inner-workings-of-Counterfeit-FOTEK-SSRs/

[Anonymous No.14344160]

>>14344126
I don't have to do any manual agitation under about ~125g batches. I had to shake that last peruvian roast for about a minute until it lost a bit of moisture because it was the last of an lb and I had like 135g left. I'll press out some wax, get real stoned, and roast up some maragogipe when it cools off a little. Probably take it a bit into second crack to see how some shots pull. I reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally like my small batch sizes. Lets me experiment frequently and I'm always drinking fresh.

Left koke honey, right maragogipe

[Anonymous No.14344323]

>>14342624
yeah, but that doesn't make it cream milk does it fucking retard?

[Anonymous No.14344340]

>>14344160
Nice. For me 135g would last 2 days at most and I like them best after a few days of rest. I might have to get a popper and give it another go anyway.
I'm waiting for my first espresso machine to ship, it's going to take a month.

[Anonymous No.14344351]

>>14343827
>I didn't say always.
>I'm not a retard guise, I was only pretending
kys

[Anonymous No.14344503]

>>14344323
What the fuck are you smoking? Cream is literally just the fattiest part of milk. Either by waiting for the cream to separate naturally ans skimming it off, or using a centrifuge to force separation.

[Anonymous No.14344599]

>>14344323
Go to your local grocery store and look for the super-expensive milk in glass bottles. Chances are, it's no homo milk and you'll clearly see the top 1/6th of the bottle filled with cream.
It's tasty, but I've found that homogenized milk works way better for steaming.

[Anonymous No.14344651]

>>14344340
I usually try it with a pourover after 24hrs and pull a few shots after 48. I'm only drinking 30g max a day, and not every day either. That tc4+ board is real versatile. You can wire it up into something bigger like a freshroast or a drum if you want, think it works with hottops too.

https://coffee.gerstgrasser.net/

Mattias is a real good guy. My board blew out and he happened to be flying to ny the next weekend, so he just mailed it to me from the states saving a month on shipping time.


126 in 107 out. When I roasted it light, it was nothing but hazelnut, so hopefully this darker roast mutes that a bit. No audible second crack but damn is it close.

[Anonymous No.14344731]

>>14324447
paper doesn't allow as much oil through which is where most of the body is......

fine metal mesh is the way to go, no paper

[Anonymous No.14345409]

>>14344340
I recommend it. Poppers are pretty easy to modify, and work incredibly well if you take the time to figure it out.
This roast was on a popper as well:
>>14343620
>>14343625
Mine is modded with a 10 dollar pot for the heat, a 3mm thermocouple and an arduino.

[Anonymous No.14345420]

>>14344731
Oil doesn't really actually contribute much body. Body comes from undissolved solids, like in any metal filtration, maillard-y compounds, and most importantly concentration.

[Anonymous No.14345426]

Does anyone really use a flannel filter?

[Anonymous No.14345552]

>>14345420
are you kidding me? it is almost the entirety of the body

next time you make coffee, let it sit for a whle, then spoon off all the oil, drink all of the coffee, then taste the oil by itself

you'll instantly tell what flavor it specifically contributes

[Anonymous No.14345574]

>>14345552
You mean like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8J_0OTmXQg
? That kind of flavor?

You don't know what you are talking about. Try making a paper filtered coffee with a 20:1 ratio and one with a 10:1 ratio and tell me concentration isn't king.

[Anonymous No.14345588]

>>14345420
>>14345574
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cafestol
sometimes called Coffeol
https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/2516

it is THE flavor of body, the fullness, the presence on the tongue, it's the WHOLE reason people put up with the super dark roasts (the oils become more present on the surface of the coffee been the higher the temp of the roast)

[Anonymous No.14345609]

>>14345588
Super dark roasts have less body than medium roasts.

>flavor of body
good christ

[Anonymous No.14345631]

here, do this, go suck a cock to cool off

then go get a good espresso

the crema that is considered the sign of a properly made espresso is the emulsified oils

are you american or something?

[Anonymous No.14345658]

>>14345631
Crema is not a sign of espresso quality. This is some decades outdated thinking. Please stop.

[Anonymous No.14345681]

>>14345631
>>14345658
And to clarify, I've tasted at least 5000 espressos. The crema looks the same on an under extracted shot as it does on a properly extracted one. If your prep is so bad that your crema can be used as an indicator, then no one should be drinking your coffee anyway.

[Anonymous No.14346774]

Is the Hario VST-2000B a good scale for coffee?

[Anonymous No.14346979]

do normie cafes and restaurants have good espresso in your area? Every espresso I tried in my country was disgusting, worked as a bartender briefly before getting fired due to being "unsuitable for the job" with access to an espresso machine, the shots me and my more experienced colleagues pulled were very shitty for instance compared to those pre packaged pods that go in those cheap nestle machines (we used lavazza that we ground in an autogrinder, grind seemed consistent)

[Anonymous No.14347067]

>>14346979
All terrible from what I've tried (UK).

[Anonymous No.14347440]

>>14346774
Overpriced

[Anonymous No.14347542]

>>14346774
I don't know that you need a good scale for coffee, it should be able to be off by a few mg, drug scales I've used to dose really small drugs weren't all that expensive

[Anonymous No.14347551]

>>14346774
What's wrong with a regular scale?

[Anonymous No.14347641]

>>14324428
I like french press
cowboy coffee is good too, it is french press without the press.

[Anonymous No.14347878]

>>14343647
OFC its a fucking presslet.

[Anonymous No.14347931]

>>14324428
Happy 4th coffee anons

[Anonymous No.14348193]

>>14341501
There's nothing wrong with 8 minutes, i always brew for 8 with a french press and its not bitter at all.

[Anonymous No.14349011]

Coof

[Anonymous No.14349031]

Metal filters yay or nay? I've got the fellow prismo so I'm pretty much always using one for my aeropress

[Anonymous No.14349043]

>>14324428
French press coffee is a bit different than a moka espresso pot, you like espresso or brewed coffee? Like both? Buy both. There's your answer.

[Anonymous No.14349082]

>>14349031
They work as intended. If you want more oils and some fines in your coffee, go for it. I've got an Aeropress and don't miss metal filters at all - the body is still great.

[Anonymous No.14349092]

>>14349031
to get rid of the fine silt, let it stand for 2-5 minutes and decant

[Anonymous No.14349137]

>>14331935
Let me guess, it's the cheapest coffee, right ?

[Anonymous No.14349249]

How many espresso shots do you do daily?
>6: double shots in the morning, afternoon, evening
Am I going to perish?

[Anonymous No.14349257]

>>14325563
Braaap

[Anonymous No.14349271]

>>14349249
2-3, maybe a couple more if I'm playing around with a new bag of coffee and I'm trying to dial in the grind.

[Anonymous No.14349320]

>>14349249
Doubt it, I have 3 americanos daily, sometimes do 6. Depends how you handle it I guess.

[Anonymous No.14349406]

>>14349320
Beautiful. 6 double shot americanos or single shot?

[Anonymous No.14349486]

>>14349137
Surprisingly not the cheapest, but it's pre-ground and only good cowboy/prison style

[Anonymous No.14349667]

>>14349249
Usually 2-3 double shots, 1 when I wake up, and a milk drink or whatever I take to work with me. I'll sometimes make an espresso cocktail later but there's a time cutoff on that.
I've also only recently got an espresso machine so this could increase dramatically.

[Anonymous No.14349752]

>>14349667
Based. What machine did you get? I have a delonghi it’s pretty good

[Anonymous No.14350234]

>>14349752
Gaggia Classic Pro, it took me a little bit of trial and error to figure it out but I enjoy that part of the process now I'm pretty happy with it.

[Anonymous No.14351352]

Coof

[Anonymous No.14351432]

>>14344049
No.
At least, not from what I can tell.
If the Mocca Drip (assuming you're talking technivorm) uses paper, a siphon does NOT. Either metal screen or a glass on glass filter arrangement.
Drip is usually water in, coffee out, continual flow through the ground coffee bed.
Siphon pushes ALL the water up to stew in the grounds chamber; then when you take it off the heat, the vacuum that forms in the bottom sucks all the liquid down.
Think french press infusion, but the filter seal is better because it doesn't have to slide along the glass, and the brew doesn't remain in contact with the grounds.
Oh yeah, and they're damn sexy.
Balance siphons are actually sexier (if you appreciate steampunkery), but vertical siphons are functionally equivalent.

[Anonymous No.14351439]

People only drink coffee to fit in, nobody actually enjoys shitty brown water

[Anonymous No.14351457]

>>14351439

[Anonymous No.14351679]

I've consumed coffee on and off for a number of years, though I've never really grown to enjoy it. I can stand the bitterness and such, but it brings me no pleasure.
Because of this, I do not drink coffee for simple hydration or in the way you would drink a glass of water. It's usually something sipped at, over maybe an hour.

So, given this, I think the kind of coffee I would enjoy the most is one tailored towards a social experience. An occasion sort of coffee, to sit down and drink with you friends as you talk.

What coffees are best for this? I'm talking type of coffee, preparation, ingredients. Anything conductive to a casual hour or two of slow sipping and chat.

[Anonymous No.14351786]

>>14351439
Toddler-palated dork needs to bring others down to his level.

[Anonymous No.14352022]

I want a M47 phoenix but they're out of stock
Would the GrinderGC be a good option? I don't need it to be portable. I would be using it with a flair

[Anonymous No.14352180]

>>14351679
Coffee has a sweet spot for drinking.
The temperature has usually changed enough 25 minutes after pouring that you need to have been done already.
What parts of the coffee you taste
change with temperature.

Done "properly", a coffee drink isn't larger than 6 ounces, and then you sip your sparkling water and socialize as your palate resets.

Don't be ashamed to order a mocha and a seltzer; the chocolate syrup really helps mask which cafes can't pull a top tier shot.
For me, espresso macchiato breve, and a sparkling mineral water.

[Anonymous No.14352237]

Don't mind me, just making perfect coffee every time which in a blind taste test with self-identified coffee experts ended up being better tasting than coffee prepared exactly to the coffee experts specification.

Also all you have to do is press a fucking button.

[Anonymous No.14352363]

>>14352022
Just preorder from their site. Worth the wait. I've been using a phoenix from the first batch with a flair.

[Anonymous No.14352369]

>>14324428
How do you guys drink coffee? Here we drink filtered coffee with lots of sugar but recently I stopped liking it. tried changing to instant coffee but it's the same.

[Anonymous No.14352491]

How likely is it that something is lingering and leeching back into my coffee? I've been cold brewing in a mason jar with a linen sock and pouring into a plastic pitcher (with an infuser insert that I stopped using) which I clean by soaking in hot soapy water and rinsing thoroughly. Everything has been disappointing for a while, tasting off in a way I can't quite describe. I tried drip brewing and dumping into the pitcher to refrigerate with similar results. Next step is to isolate by drip brewing and refrigerating in a glass jar.

[Anonymous No.14352959]

>>14352022
Are you willing to pay a markup on one? You can find them on some European stores.
I just got mine the other day, great results and it feels oddly satisfying to use if that makes any sense.
I was pretty impressed by how solid the construction is, makes me wonder how much of a tank the M47 classic has got to be.

[Anonymous No.14352999]

>>14352237
>Have tried it
>Flat, late flavors
Fuck off, podtard.

[Anonymous No.14353113]

>>14352491
Maybe your filter is getting mildewy.

[Anonymous No.14353123]

>>14353113
Hot soapy water, thorough rinse, full air dry every time. My thinking was dish soap lingering in the plastic.

[Anonymous No.14353256]

>>14352959
>I was pretty impressed by how solid the construction is, makes me wonder how much of a tank the M47 classic has got to be.


This. Love my phoenix. Real fucking jelly of people who snagged the classic.


That darker roast brazilian is horrible btw. Trying to slurp it down as quick as possible. Guess I'll coldbrew it

[Anonymous No.14353498]

>>14353123
>Air dry
Yup it's mildew. Keep it wet in the fridge, or freeze it.

[Anonymous No.14353505]

Anybody with a Flair here? What kind of brew temperatures do you usually get? I have trouble getting temperatures above the 170F range.

[Anonymous No.14353516]

>>14353498
There's no mildew scent.

[Anonymous No.14353782]

On a whim, I decided to try and pull an espresso shot with one of my lighter roasted coffees; now I know what a sour shot truly tastes like.

[Anonymous No.14353861]

>>14353505

Just pulled a shot. Preheated twice in a yeti cup, water at 212 got me 200 even in the chamber. Tested with a javelin pro duo.

[Anonymous No.14353883]

>>14353861
Yeah, I was playing around and I can get into the ideal 190-200 range after 3 preheat cycles or so. I'll just need to switch up my workflow a little.

[Anonymous No.14354200]

>>14353883
Unless I'm dealing with suuuuuper light roasts, 1 cycle is usually enough.

[Anonymous No.14354242]

i have both (among others) both are great if you know how to operate them properly. french press is probably more versatile and user friendly. if i had to choose one, definitely the french press.

[Anonymous No.14355100]

>>14353782
kek

[Anonymous No.14356083]

Coof

[Anonymous No.14356468]

>>14324428
Is there really gonna be much of a difference between a decent pre-ground coffee and self ground coffee when it comes to a french press? My current blade grinder is falling apart and I'm wondering if it's even worth it to buy a new one.

[Anonymous No.14356540]

>>14324428
Can anyone explain this meme to me?
Why would I want to do this over just letting a machine drip brew the coffee while I go do other shit?

[Anonymous No.14356545]

>>14356540
Hipster cred

[Anonymous No.14356601]

>>14356468
It will stale if it hasn't lost more flavor off the bat.

[Anonymous No.14356604]

>>14356540
I mean, if you've got a good drip brewer and you can get the right grind for the brewer, it's fine. The problem is, most drip brewers are cheap plastic shit and most people buy Folgers'.

[Anonymous No.14356698]

>>14356540
Because drip machines do absolute shit job of spraying water just on the coffee bed and not everywhere (coffee, exposed paper filter, walls of the brewing chamber) and spray very unevenly (some parts of coffee bed gets over-extracted while other parts get under-extracted), and that fucks up the taste of the final product.

Very well designed drip brewers like Moccamasters, which spray hot water very evenly and has clear guideline on the level you need to fill the coffee brew basket to, make really good coffee, but they are also quite expensive.

[Anonymous No.14356726]

>>14349406
You fuckin crazy 6 double shot americanos? Jesus anon, don't give me any crazy ideas man.

[Anonymous No.14356886]

>>14343898
>Behmors trap heat
Which is why I use my welding gloves, and pull the squirrel cage out hot, and dump it onto a big, not-hot baking sheet.

[Anonymous No.14356929]

>>14324428

Do Americans really?

[Anonymous No.14356931]

>>14356540
With an automatic drip brewer, you turn it on and it does its thing.
The way it heats water, you get no adjustment on temperature.
The way it puts out water, you get no control over grounds saturation.

With a pot of hot water, you control temperature and what pattern you pour, so you can do it better.
The good news is that if you haven't gone down the rabbit hole yet, and can't taste the difference, you can keep enjoying Mr. Coffee's fine brown water for years.

[Anonymous No.14357342]

Is there a good coffee grinder for moka pot espresso for less than 50 usd?

[Anonymous No.14357350]

>>14357342
Just buy the vacuum-packed pre-ground Lavazza. They're made specifically for moka pot.

[Anonymous No.14357549]

>>14356698
Not quite true. The moccamaster is better because of the consistent high temperature, and brew time. They actually do a bad job of water distribution.

[Anonymous No.14357568]

>>14357350
>preground prepacked macro floor sweepings

great advice dipshit. these generals are pure fucking cancer, all regular posters should be fucking killed

[Anonymous No.14357575]

>>14357568
We go from talking about tds% and roasting curves to 'how I make illy tast gud in aroprez?'

[Anonymous No.14357584]

>>14357568
Trying to grind near espresso level required for moka pots with <$50 grinder is going to be very challenging. Buy pre-ground if your can't afford a grinder in the >$150 range.

[Anonymous No.14357587]

>>14357575
kys

[Anonymous No.14357603]

>>14324428
>I am tired of using filter,

Because it's fussy and annoying to rinse out, then clean and airdry a reusable filter?
Because you are spending $$$ on disposable filters?

It's interesting you used the world "tired" for why you no longer want filtering. *boggle* The only thing not being filtered is greek/turkish coffee, or k-cups, or instant coffee.

If you are looking for convenience and saving time when you are at your most braindead/shaky/tired/sleepy and also make it taste the best? Cold brew. Prep it at bedtime, to steep overnight. Pour cold brew iced coffee ready to go over ice, kiss of cream on top, or nuke your mug of brew and dilute as you wish. Done, smooth, and exactly as strong as you want every time. Batch make some cold brew in a pitcher at bedtime, a couple nights a week.

[Anonymous No.14357646]

>>14324428

Hi OP! Not sure if it helps, but I went from drip coffee > Keurig pods > french press > espresso machine.

The best all round coffee comes from the machine, and it's potent as hell. The french press was the easiest to use and clean, but it had 1/5 the intensity of the espresso (if not less).

I'm pretty sure the Keurig has given me cancer from all the leaching plastic, and drip coffee takes way too long and manages to taste worse than what the french press can make in a fraction of the time.

[Anonymous No.14357649]

>>14357646
Fogot to add ease of cleaning comparisons:

French Press > Drip Coffee > Keurig (you need to descale and shit monthly) > Espresso

[Anonymous No.14357696]

>>14357649
If you need to descale monthly, you need better water.

[Anonymous No.14357707]

who /moccamaster/ here

[Anonymous No.14357729]

>>14357696
better water won't stop cancer from shitty Keurig plastic leaching. It's the worst possible option for coffee lol.

[Anonymous No.14357744]

is it worth getting an Aeropress if i only have a blade grinder? can't shell out for a burr grinder yet

[Anonymous No.14357745]

>>14357729
Keurig leeching has nothing to do with your water being over calcified. The thin bore tubing in it may exacerbate this issue, but your water is fucked regardless. Get a $5 aquarium gh/kh test kit.

[Anonymous No.14357749]

>>14357744
No, you're better off with that $30 in your pocket.

[Anonymous No.14357847]

>>14324573
instant coffee is more expensive than real coffee.
and french press coffee with your favorite grounds is hard to beat

[Anonymous No.14357941]

>>14357744
Fix your grinder situation first.
An OK hand grinder can be had around $50 (hario skerton), a good electric can be had in the $100-150 range (Baratza?) (maybe less if you find a defunct restaurant selling off equipment on Craigslist that had a big Bunn).

[Anonymous No.14358008]

>>14357941
skertons are junk.

[Anonymous No.14358018]

>>14358008
Better than a whirly by a damn sight.

[Anonymous No.14358021]

>>14358008
You can put a metal ring inside to stabilize the burr for coarse grinds.

[Anonymous No.14358034]

>>14325626
Clean your counter you mong

[Anonymous No.14358129]

>>14358018
Typically you want to upgrade from something bad to good. Not from something bad to....bad.

>>14358021
Don't throw good money after bad.

>>14358034
I'll let my $200 scale get as dirty as I'd like, thanks.

[Anonymous No.14358152]

>>14358129
so what's a good entry burr grinder then? doesn't matter if its manual or auto

[Anonymous No.14358160]

>>14358129
It's only bad if you specifically want a coarse grind. And you can fix it so that it is good for coarse grind.

[Anonymous No.14358360]

>>14357696
Sometimes you just get screwed. The place I used to live had really hard water to the point where I was thinking about buying a water softener for my house.

[Anonymous No.14358520]

>>14358152
Around january you could pick up a v60/fp/coldbrew insert and a timemore slim for under $100 shipped. Dunno how prices are looking now. Thats a nearly bifl grinder for normies that will do everything up to espresso, upper and lower bearings to reduce burr wobble etc. Solid design, good burrs, and there won't be anything to bitch about. Night and day compared to the skerton. If you want an automatic, the fellow ode is looking promising.

>>14358160
If its bad for fine grinding and its bad for coarse grinding, its just a bad grinder. If you've got money to blow, blow it on something nice. If you don't have money to blow, you shouldn't waste what little money you've got on shit that will be replaced as soon as you can. Save your cash, get something worthwhile. Simple concept.

[Anonymous No.14358528]

>>14358152
What's your budget?

[Anonymous No.14358553]

>>14358520
It's fine for fine grinding. It only struggles with coarse grinding because the burr is unsupported and wobbles a bit, which is fixed with a washer.

[Anonymous No.14358769]

Today I had my coffee with nutella, marshmallows, and a bit of cream

[Anonymous No.14358875]

>>14358769
I don't understand why people like Nutella.

[Anonymous No.14358938]

>>14358152
bodum bistro
people might sperg out because it's not a more "niche" brand, but they are better (yes, better) than an encore, and are cheap as hell.

[Anonymous No.14359609]

Redpill me on single boiler machines. Are they worth the hassle?

[Anonymous No.14359873]

>>14358528
under $100 US

[Anonymous No.14359879]

WHATS THE BEST BEANS FOR ESPRESSO BROS

[Anonymous No.14360144]

>>14359609
Single boilers are fine... if you don't need to steam and make espresso simultaneously.
Have a PV Lusso; it's a single boiler lever machine. Stupidly simple inside; do a tiny amount of temp surfing (like listen for the heater to click on, then pull, listen for the heater to click off, then steam), and I have always gotten good results. It doesn't have a switch between brew and steam temps; it's just always ready 30 minutes after it gets turned on, until it runs out of water.

Pump machines.... meh. Boiler is usually too small for stability, IMO.

[Anonymous No.14360161]

>>14358938
At that price the Capresso Infinity is better.

[Anonymous No.14360224]

>tfw you use a blade grinder and french press, paying not attention to what the temperature of the water is, just pour it in and stir the shit out of it a couple times a few minutes apart
I am the king of shit taste.

[Anonymous No.14360486]

>>14324428
moka pot = trash

french press gang!

[Anonymous No.14360543]

>>14324447
That or just sttel wool the insides of your percolatot to clean it.

[Anonymous No.14360598]

>>14360161
Nope

[Anonymous No.14360712]

why does coffee taste like cigarettes to me?

[Anonymous No.14360745]

>>14360712
Because everything tastes like cigs to a smoker.

[Anonymous No.14360770]

>>14360486
I want to drink straight out of the press because the crema goes away when it's poured.

I'm convinced that crema is a delicious bitter chocolate tone and that most unwanted coffee flavors are mainly from sourness.

[Anonymous No.14360783]

>>14360745
i smoked 1 pack in my entire life. instant coffee and fancy coffee from a shop taste like ciggies to me

[Anonymous No.14360802]

>>14360224
Now see, at least you understand you've got shit taste. You're not trying to convince the world you're making gold with an aeropress and a hario skerton.

[Anonymous No.14360803]

>>14357745
Based

[Anonymous No.14360804]

>>14360712
Drinking coffee that is too darkly roasted.

[Anonymous No.14360816]

>>14360770
>crema is a delicious bitter chocolate tone
Definitely incorrect. That's just some very fine ground coffee, a tiny bit of oil, and co2. Doesn't taste great.

>most unwanted coffee flavors are mainly from sourness
If you mean under extraction then I mostly agree.

[Anonymous No.14360850]

>>14324448
>>14324428
Buy Turkish and a cezve.

[Anonymous No.14361773]

Coof

[Anonymous No.14362220]

>>14360816
They say it's under extraction, but the slower "strong" setting on my keurig makes disgusting cups. Either the beans in the Kcups are just bad or there's a logic inconsistency.

[Anonymous No.14362261]

>>14361773
>Anon in charge of knowing how bump limits work

[Anonymous No.14362269]

>>14344094
say that to my face varmint

[Anonymous No.14362326]

>>14362220
The coffee in the kcups is 100% bad, this shouldn't come as a surprise

[Anonymous No.14362353]

>>14362261
I had just woken up and only saw the last post was 6 hours ago. Plz no bully