/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.15029509]

Pilsners, Lagers, and Pale Ales are where it's at. Simple. Tasty. Easy to sip. Easy to Chug.

I dont understand why the beer community is so obsessed with making everything as bitter and nasty as they can. Is it just to prove how manly they are? Or do they genuinely enjoy IPAs and Stouts that are a chore to drink?

[Anonymous No.15029520]

alcohol poisons your liver and makes you retarded

[Anonymous No.15029527]

>>15029509
Anon, people have different tastes. I like IPAs and can appreciate bitterness as a style. A well-made IPA also has enough sweetness and ABV to make the bitterness balanced, however.

It's also that IPAs became very trendy. So we're seeing a ripple effect still. If you're in flyover territory, you're probably at peak IPA right now. In California we are riding the other side of that wave now-- IPAs were the style that broke through the macro-brew monotony and introduced most Americans to other styles of beer. As people come down off of their 7.5% pine-scented high, they're starting to branch out and hopefully get into more and more styles as time passes.

You're off the mark about stouts, though. Stouts are not a style characterized by bitterness. Many stouts are only slightly hopped and low in alpha acids. Within the realm of stouts there is huge variation.

Lagers really are catching on and I'll admit that I've been one to under-appreciate them myself.

[Anonymous No.15029537]

>>15029527
I guess I'll try some new stouts then. Everyone online was harping on about Guinness and I bought a can of it. Made me gag.

Any style of recommendations?

[Anonymous No.15029540]

>>15029527
No one "appreciates" bitterness because it's an evolutionarily developed taste to detect poisons. Faggot

[Anonymous No.15029569]

>>15029520
fpbp

[Anonymous No.15029586]

itt

[Anonymous No.15029589]

[Anonymous No.15029590]

[Anonymous No.15029591]

>>15029509
There are ales other than IPA and stout, you know.
If you like the idea of stout but want something more mellow, porter is there.

[Anonymous No.15029595]

>>15029509
A pilsner is a lager dumb ass

[Anonymous No.15029596]

>>15029591
>>15029595
t.

[Anonymous No.15029605]

>>15029537
Guinness is a dry Irish style-- these are more hopped and less sweet, so the bitterness comes through more. It's possible that dark roasted malts aren't your thing, but if you like chocolate or coffee that shouldn't be the case.

It's hard to get too specific with style recommendations, because when it comes to American styles, the only ones are really "porter," "stout," and "imperial stout." Porter and stout are both quite poorly-defined terms and mostly come down to which name the brewery prefers. so distinguishing between them won't be super helpful, but I would say look more to porters than stouts and you'll probably find something verging less bitter and more sweet. "Imperial," you probably know, but just in case you aren't aware, just refers to the gravity/ABV of the brew. Imperial styles get their name from the royal courts where very strong beers were prepared for nobility. These will of course be stronger, sweeter, and more intense, but I wouldn't recommend them to someone trying to get into the style.

Beyond that, there are many styles of dark beers that are not American ales, including dark lagers. Beer is the most diverse beverage that there is, so there's really a ton out there to try, but it's a matter also of what you find readily-available locally. I've even tried wild-fermented barrel aged dark beers; you can get some really interesting flavors out of the dark roasted malt, which can be developed in really an infinite number of ways. Look also for adjuncts like oatmeal, coffee, and coconut, which can impact the beer's final taste and mouthfeel quite a bit too. It's worth mentioning that Guinness is not carbonated but rather nitrogenated, which gives it a mouthfeel that could come off as flat, which enhances the perception of bitter flavors.

>>15029540
Imagine being this retarded. Capsaicin also was developed to prevent animals from eating capsicums. Do you also think that people only eat spicy food to look tough?

[Anonymous No.15029606]

[Anonymous No.15029612]

>>15029605
you seem like a total faggot

[Anonymous No.15029617]

>>15029605
nice pasta

[Anonymous No.15029622]

>>15029605
t.

[Anonymous No.15029624]

>>15029612
>>15029617
I worked at a major brewery for two years, so I know a good amount about beer.

You know that you're on a forum dedicated to discussing food and drink?

[Anonymous No.15029625]

>>15029527
>In California we are riding the other side of that wave now
What the fuck are you talking about? The biggest fad right now is still the juicy/hazy/NE style IPA. It's pretty different from the West Coast style that was dominant a decade ago, but it's definitely not "the other side of the wave". Sure, barrel aged stouts and sours are still pretty big, and lagers are kind of hanging in there, but these days it seems like we have every style imaginable in equal measure, but the NE IPAs are ridiculously dominant.

[Anonymous No.15029632]

>>15029622
He's attractive enough that I would fuck him after 3-4 beers but I'd regret it when I sober up and his personality is cringe.

To me the cringey thing about this "type" of beer drinker is that they fixate on one style. It's not always IPAs, though that's the stereotype. Where I live IPA has become less of a "hipster" thing and more of a "bro" thing. Honestly, we don't really have "hipsters" like that anymore where I live. Would you happen to be in a flyover state?

>>15029537
I forgot to mention, the BJCP releases a style guide every year and it's kind of the de-facto resource for how beer styles are classified. Might be fun to look over if you're trying to branch out a bit with your beer.

[Anonymous No.15029640]

>>15029605
stop writing good, knowledgable posts that require some effort anon, you're supposed to just call OP a tranny and attach a soiack as is customary on nu4chan

[Anonymous No.15029641]

>>15029625
Yeah, the haze craze is real for sure. It's definitely too big of a thing. Really I would say that lagers are not just hanging in there though, but are becoming quite popular. Though that mostly refers to dry-hopped lagers. Personally I'm hoping that the whole haze thing is just a fad.

[Anonymous No.15029656]

>>15029625
Anyway, the thing is, yes, hazy IPA is the dominant style, but like you said, you can find every style of beer now. 7 years ago every bar that wasn't particularly known as a place with a diverse beer selection would pretty much have 5 IPAs and a porter.

[Anonymous No.15029665]

[Anonymous No.15029672]

>>15029537
try something that's not a dry stout, maybe a sweet stout or milk stout
imperial stouts are also sweeter but they're often also bitter to balance this, so if you want a strong dark beer I'd recommend a baltic porter, which is usually more mild

[Anonymous No.15029693]

>>15029656
>7 years ago every bar that wasn't particularly known as a place with a diverse beer selection would pretty much have 5 IPAs and a porter
I honestly don't remember this mythological time when you couldn't find anything but IPAs on tap. Sure, there was a major oversaturation of the style, and way too many start-up breweries all doing the same thing, and usually doing it sub-par. Half of those places went out of business 4-5 years ago. Still, even at that time only maybe 20-25% of the menu was IPAs, while the rest of it had a little of everything, and usually a couple wildcard things. Also, IPAs were, and still are popular, because that's what people who brew beer like to drink.

[Anonymous No.15029698]

>>15029656
>7 years ago every bar that wasn't particularly known as a place with a diverse beer selection would pretty much have 5 IPAs and a porter.
Not true in my experience at all. Even at the height of the IPA glut, regular bars would only serve them in bottle while their taps were for staples that regulars actually drank.

[Anonymous No.15029704]

>>15029693
>>15029698
I suppose I've probably exaggerated it, either in my telling, my recollection, or my relatively-limited exposure to beer culture at the time. It's probably moreso that the selection was "IPA" and "shit I'm not into" back in that period.

[Anonymous No.15029871]

>>15029520
Joke's on you, I'm already retarded.

[Anonymous No.15029887]

>>15029693

pic related is a brewery in torontos current menu, so what you discribed didnt seem to far off really.

[Anonymous No.15029934]

>>15029887
The Seattle/Portland area craft beer lineup: Imperial IPA, hazy IPA, fruity IPA, double imperial IPA, Northwest IPA, citrus IPA.
Pic related: garbage. No mention of IBU or bitterness on the packaging. An effect of IPA retards.

[Anonymous No.15029957]

>>15029632
>He's attractive enough that I would fuck him after 3-4 beers but I'd regret it
Jesus Christ man, I could be blackout drunk and I'd still never go home with a soy.

Also numales seem to favour NEIPAs and pastry stouts that are easier to appreciate with a child's palate.

[Anonymous No.15030502]

>>15029957
>if you drink bitter beer, you're a numale
>if you drink approachable / sweet beer, you're a numale too
choose one or the other, you autists

[Anonymous No.15032003]

>>15029934
IBU is a meme

[Anonymous No.15032146]

>>15029509
IDK but there is such a thing as hops burnout, a point at which no beer is better enough and you can no longer "enjoy" hoppy beer. once it happens beer is no longer worth drinking.

[Anonymous No.15032208]

>>15029509
beer is either an ale, or a lager.

[Anonymous No.15032415]

>>15029509
IPAs are fine, you asshole. Stouts smell nice but they're impossible to drink.

[Anonymous No.15033192]

>>15032415
How? You put it to your lips and drink.

[Anonymous No.15033213]

>>15033192
>he isn't boofing his stouts

[Anonymous No.15033236]

>>15029934
>that ad

[Anonymous No.15033243]

>>15029509
Best pils in the states coming thru

[Anonymous No.15033269]

>>15029509
I started drinking at 14 and spent my poorfag teens and early 20s drinking the cheapest lukewarm swill there was. Now it doesn't matter how asstastic beer tastes, I'll chug it all the same. Though I have developed a taste for the medium dark and dark stuff. A cold pilsner on a warm day during/after work is great though.

[Anonymous No.15033285]

Since I am german I only drink lager.

[Anonymous No.15033290]

I go to our local brewery and restaraunt where they have like infinite small batch local stuff and rare bottles from here n there. Im in new england

I order the coors light every fucking time because they try to push that IPA bullshit toooo hard

[Anonymous No.15033318]

>>15029509
They like the estrogen from the hops.

[Anonymous No.15033502]

>>15033290
Coors ain't bad at all brah. A lot of breweries near me pumped out a better version of macro lagers. A little more expensive than the originals but I was happy to see it

[Anonymous No.15033582]

>>15029537
Oatmeal stouts are usually pretty good.

[Anonymous No.15033624]

>>15033582
Favorite type of stout

[Anonymous No.15033647]

>>15030502
I only said one of those though.

[Anonymous No.15033656]

>>15033290
As if your local brewery has Coors Light on tap.

[Anonymous No.15033725]

>>15033290
Coors is trash dude

[Anonymous No.15034052]

>>15029520

I make way more money and have a far better professional network and have no idea what to do with 75% of my money other than invest it because I make too much since I started drinking moderate-heavy amount

Before I started I drinking I was a no-skill autist watching faggot cartoons all day and complaining about niggers on the internet.

I still hate niggers but what self respecting human doesn't.

[Anonymous No.15034109]

pale ales taste like horse piss and are for fags.

[Anonymous No.15034120]

>>15029656
can confirm. all craft brews seem to be ipas and ipas suck donkey balls.

[Anonymous No.15034125]

>>15034052
based dabbing on orcs.

[Anonymous No.15034263]

>>15029537
I had Guinness and it tastes like a shitty, watered-down Nitro, which is my favorite beer by far.

[Anonymous No.15034284]

>>15029509
You sound stupid and ignorant. Pilsners are totally fine but so are other beer styles, just drink what you like.

[Anonymous No.15034294]

>>15034109
sounds like you drank skunked shit

[Anonymous No.15034515]

>>15029934
Damn, I live in NorCal and am positive I saw that in the store a few weeks ago. I don't usually buy Lagunitas because it's pretty average by Cali standards, but those numbers look good, and a brief glace at the ratings make me think this is something I should be keeping an eye out for.

[Anonymous No.15035169]

any based aussies here?

[Anonymous No.15035209]

>>15034515
You ever try Drakes? I like that they put the bottling date on all of their 6 packs so you can tell if you are getting some gnarly old stock. It's less malty than Lagunitas, which I enjoy.

[Anonymous No.15035335]

>>15035169
Yeah, what are you doing posting CoConspirators beers from months ago?

[Anonymous No.15035424]

>finally at the stage of alcoholism where i don’t want to eat
>live off half a meal a day
>lower torso in constant discomfort
>just fucking go to work in hospo regardless
>really hoping this just kills me in my
sleep

ah yes beer what fun

[Anonymous No.15035437]

>>15029509
IPAs are fine but I hate the culture around them and the way they took 90% of the craft beer market. The true champion of beer is german style Weissbier

[Anonymous No.15035444]

>>15035424
fasting for a day-ish will get you feeling normal again, anon

[Anonymous No.15035470]

>>15029625
uggh, it fucking sucks. i hate this haze trend and also the wierd cans that look like instagram bait murals.

[Anonymous No.15035471]

>>15035437
>Weissbier
worse than pilsner
in fact, every beer is worse than pilsner

[Anonymous No.15035478]

>>15035335
because this one is the most based of them all

[Anonymous No.15035634]

>>15029605
hot peppers evolved into being full of capsaicin because those were the ones that weren't eaten by animals as much, thus they reproduced more
humans evolved into disliking bitter tastes because the ones who liked it died of poisoning much more often
humans developed a habit of eating hot peppers in some areas of the world because, as "unpleasant" as they might be they are still food, and eating them went together with human survival and evolution
so surely you can see how your example is ass backwards

[Anonymous No.15035652]

>>15029934
>IBUs

imagine being too retarded to trust your own taste buds

[Anonymous No.15037343]

>>15032415
stouts smell like your sister's yeasty crotch

[Anonymous No.15037347]

I'm now a white /wheatbeer/ chad

[Anonymous No.15037408]

>>15037347
Pale lagers are better

[Anonymous No.15037441]

>>15035169
>salted caramel slice stout

>>15035335
>noo that's an old beer, not a new release!

both emblematic of why craft beer is fucking annoying. Have a lager you poofs

[Anonymous No.15037490]

>>15029540
This. If you like bitter foods you are actively moving humanity's evolution backwards.

[Anonymous No.15037516]

>>15029957
>only manly men drink beer that's bitter for the sake of bitter
Found the insecure retard

[Anonymous No.15037524]

>>15033582
Based

[Anonymous No.15037533]

>>15035437
German style beers in general are superior, but I also but Weissbeer at the top along with märzens

[Anonymous No.15037539]

>>15037347
What do you usually go for? I'm just getting into them and my favorite so far is Weihenstephaner

[Anonymous No.15037551]

>>15029520
t. Mohammed

[Anonymous No.15037555]

I'm a craft beer guy and I love good lagers.
I only drink IPAs every now and then.
I enjoy non-meme stouts, amber lagers, pilsners, pale ales, brown ales, blonde ales, wheat beers, etc.
But IPAs and sours, I'm not really into

[Anonymous No.15037719]

>>15029625
>The biggest fad right now is still the juicy/hazy/NE style IPA
And it's fucking awesome. I hated the west coast IPA trend (undrinkable IMO) but I'm loving this one.

[Anonymous No.15037733]

>>15037539
I've been drinking pic related lately since I am a quebec fag, I think it is available in some other provinces but not sure about outside canada. according to the label it's a belgian style wheat beer, it's very nice. I'll have to keep an eye out for an import

[Anonymous No.15037753]

>>15037539
You can't go wrong with any German wheat beers. Those fuckers know how to brew.

Franziskaner is a classic

[Anonymous No.15037771]

>>15029887
Halo Brewery beers are decent but the aesthetic of the packaging really gets the consoomer in me goin

[Anonymous No.15037793]

>>15037733
Everything this brewery makes is fantastic and I'm not even a frog.

[Anonymous No.15037840]

>>15037793
not a frog either but they know how to make a good beer those peppers

[Anonymous No.15038013]

I bought this for the lols expecting ass juice but after wiping the dust off it was genuinely deliciois. I was just as surprised as you.

[Anonymous No.15038050]

>>15029527
IPAs are kinda overrated though. I wish more breweries focused on other styles of beer like bocks, rauchbiers, flemish ales and dark milds/porters/stouts/any type of dark ale. I work in a liquor store with a focus on craft beer and even in the winter its still ridiculous how many new items are IPAs. Its getting overblown and sours are not far behind.

[Anonymous No.15038057]

>>15029509
these threads make me so sad. everyone is so mad and so stupid

[Anonymous No.15038059]

>>15038050
>bocks
I've only ever had doppelbocks, am I missing anything?

[Anonymous No.15038068]

>>15029537
Stouts are a pretty diverse style. Can range from milk/sweet stouts to Caribbean stouts (aka Dragon Stout or Guinness Export Stout) and be pretty complex. Depending on where you are, I'd look for any local Russian Imperial Stout examples that are 7%+. They're roasty and malty and very rich compared to a standard dry stout like Guinness. Also some barrel aged stouts like Founders KBS and Goose Island Bourbon County Stout are pretty good if you want a monster of a stout and similar styles can be found around this time of year locally.

[Anonymous No.15038095]

>>15038013
I'd keep that bottle its badass

[Anonymous No.15038137]

>>15038059
Bock as a category is pretty cool to dive into because, given how strict the German beer purity law is, the category uses almost everything German beer does but then gets it super cold to encourage higher ABV brews.
Normal bocks are balanced, maltier then lagers and good Fall beers and can be either pale or dark dunkelbocks with more roasty characteristics.
Maibocks are basically helles lagers with that nice extra maltiness and slight meaty qualities that bocks have with the smoothness and fruitiness of traditional Helles which are also great food pairing beers.
Then after doppelbocks there's eisbock. Which is basically when you do a doppelbock to the point of freezing the beer and then removing the ice/water and can be anything from 9% ABV to some crazy shit like 57% ABV. Its like Samuel Adams Utopias on crack but actually tastes way better then that luxury priced swill.

Bocks can be basically anything you want them to be within the realm of a malty, higher ABV beer. Eisbock isn't for everybody given how weirdly meaty it can get but they are still very unique even compared to doppelbocks.

There's also weizenbock, which is a wheat beer made like a bock that can also be done like an eisbock.

[Anonymous No.15038195]

>>15038095
Meh I can buy more. Every time I've seen them the bottles are covered in dust, so I don't think they sell very well.

[Anonymous No.15038812]

>>15038137
Thanks for the recs anon! I'm generally picky with beer (bitter = bad) but I'll see what I can find. There's a German deli in town I can check out. I'm particularly excited about weizenbock due to my love of hefeweizen.

As a side note, I brought it up to my dad and apparently one of his friends has an unopened bottle of Sam Adams Tripelbock. Should I be as hype for it as advertised? Don't really care for Sam Adams too much but I their seasonals are really good.

[Anonymous No.15039389]

>>15037719
Yotsuba would unironically drink Green Flash over any hazy shit.

[Anonymous No.15040128]

>>15035169
yeah, never seen that before though whered u get it

[Anonymous No.15040132]

>>15035424
>hospo
>alco
stacks up

[Anonymous No.15040266]

>>15038812
Bock is more bitter than other lagers (except pilseners) but has more body and is sweeter because of the higher gravity while still not being fully fermented like dry pilseners e.g.
Better start with pale ones. Also beers from Germany's south are less bitter but maltier than the ones from the north so stick with Bavarian etc. bocks rather than Einbecker.

[Anonymous No.15040280]

>>15029509
>I dont understand why the beer community is so obsessed with making everything as bitter and nasty as they can. Is it just to prove how manly they are?
IPAs tend to be very flavorful and refreshing. The bitterness is a flavor sensation and adds complexity. Most cocktails have bitters added for this reason, so it tastes more interesting and isn't just sweet syrup on the tongue

[Anonymous No.15041427]

I wish there was more focus on things like amber lagers and blonde ales

[Anonymous No.15041773]

>>15037733
i live in upstate ny and i love this stuff, expensive here, i like getting it in bulk when im in canada because its cheaper, but its a classic

[Anonymous No.15041894]

>>15041427
this, gib Marzens

[Anonymous No.15042277]

Sneed pilsner is great

[Anonymous No.15042302]

I'm six days sober! My pancreas has stopped hurting and today I had my first solid bowl movement for nearly a year.

[Anonymous No.15042304]

barleywine is best

[Anonymous No.15042372]

>>15042302
Good job anon. I hope it gets easier for you and your life becomes more colorful!

[Anonymous No.15042572]

>>15029527
If 2010's have been a IPA decade, here's to 2020's being a stout/porter decade. Lagers are a strange bunch. Some people really like em, I dislike em these days. Maybe it is the lack of proper lagers, as I have drunk enough of cheap "piss lager" during my sophomore year in university.

[Anonymous No.15042610]

>>15037733
Unibroue has actually penetrated pretty deep into the US, I live in the South and you can find them in nicer liquor stores here. Like >>15037793 said everything they make is great, I'm partial to La Fin du Monde myself.

[Anonymous No.15042617]

>>15037733
This is probably my favorite brewery. La fin du monde got me into beer deeper than coors

[Anonymous No.15042631]

Any NJfags had this stuff? I love it
>>15037347
Good stuff

[Anonymous No.15042971]

>>15037733
>>15041773
>>15042610
Is it really that common? My mouth starts watering whenever I read about the La Fin du Monde but I live in a shithole town in midwest US and I don't think anyone here drinks

[Anonymous No.15043594]

>>15042572
Lagers are very popular though, and I don't just mean the piss ones.
All of the big craft breweries have a lager that sells well, which is often their flagship. Boston Lager, Coney Island Mermaid Pils, Saranac Adirondack Lager, etc.

[Anonymous No.15043807]

I like to buy variety packs and recently I found this mother fucker
Never had marzen before but my god is it good
Anybody else like marzen?

[Anonymous No.15043810]

>>15043807

[Anonymous No.15044062]

>>15042971
Yeah. I'm in Minnesota and it's at almost every liquor store remotely close to a medium sized city

[Anonymous No.15044068]

>>15029509
I came to this realization in my late 20s. Novelty joke sugar beers and hop bombs are like those fucked up cheesecake factory desserts. Bearable once. Not something a grown adult would seek again.

>>15029527
m'gentlesir

[Anonymous No.15044118]

>>15042971
yeah try a large distributor like beer world or go to a more populated area. I've even bought it before at a store in kinda bumfuck nowhere florida once, it's everywhere because its one of canadas most popular beers.

[Anonymous No.15044131]

>>15042971
Just go to a slightly above average liquor store and they'll probably have it. It's not so much a quality thing, although the quality is admittedly really good, so much as an import thing. So long as you don't live in absolute bumfuck nowhere, you'll probably be able to find it.

[Anonymous No.15044705]

>>15044068
Yeah, meme IPAs really are a meme.
I don't know how people actually enjoy those West Coast IPAs unless they just drink one at a time.

[Anonymous No.15045566]

>>15039389
Nah. Yotsuba would stick to pastry stouts.

[Anonymous No.15045625]

Sam Adams Boston Ale is really good

[Anonymous No.15045821]

I dont mind one cold IPA, especially if it’s the first drink of the evening
Stouts I cannot stand

[Anonymous No.15045839]

>>15029509
Those are great to drink with food or on a hot day, but darker and higher ABV beers tend to be better by themselves. Different beer for different occasions

[Anonymous No.15045861]

>>15032208
Or lambic.

[Anonymous No.15045929]

>>15029693
Seattle area, 2015-2017 basically every place was
>5 variations of IPA
>Some local cider (that was usually shit)
>Widmer or Pyramid Hefe

It's gotten better, but the trend is still 80%+ of draughts being IPAs or some variation.

[Anonymous No.15045960]

>>15029527
You people are insufferable

[Anonymous No.15045967]

>>15045929
At my local bar in New York, like 80% of the craft beers on tap are IPAs.
If you don't count the usual macro stuff, it's roughly 6 or 7 IPAs, 1 brown ale, 2 different Sam Adams lagers, and that's basically it

[Anonymous No.15046721]

I absolutely despise the taste of lager. I’ve had some success with Guinness but by the last couple of sips it tastes foul aswell, the bitter hops flavor is just unbearable. What beer is for me?

[Anonymous No.15046939]

>>15038013
bruce dickinson was pulling pints of that in a pub i was in

[Anonymous No.15047034]

I miss cooper's green from australia, but this is the best I can get in the UK. Trooper is also good and tastes similar but I think it costs more.

[Anonymous No.15047048]

>>15045967
Sounds like hell.

Tell them to get some Belgian beers on tap. Duvel or Chimay

[Anonymous No.15047089]

>>15035471
A plebeian wrote this.
>>15037533
A patrician wrote this.

[Anonymous No.15047153]

My favorite beers are dunkelweizen and Belgian tripels. But a Pilsner every now and then is good as well.

[Anonymous No.15047566]

>>15045821
Same here. I just can't seem to like that stout bitterness. My go to is always a belgian

[Anonymous No.15047589]

>>15029509
Low test post

[Anonymous No.15047656]

>>15029509
Some of my favorite beers are IPAs and some of the most revolting swill I've had the displeasure of drinking were also IPAs. It's the curse of being the trendy style for an entire decade. The over saturation of the market as well as the hundreds if not thousands of terrible attempts at chasing the trend gave the style a bad name.

I've basically given up on trying new ones at this point. I spent my entire early 20s drinking nothing but hoppy shit. 26 now and I've been on a big Belgian kick recently. Tripels have quickly risen to the top of my favorite styles.

[Anonymous No.15047658]

>>15029605
Great post brah, cheers

[Anonymous No.15047711]

>>15047034
You need to try more beers mate kek

[Anonymous No.15047811]

>>15037733
hard to believe they're owned by Sleeman's

[Anonymous No.15048319]

>>15047048
even fake Belgians can be pretty good. Like Ommegang from New York