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15119900 No.15119900[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Hate towards people for what they cannot control and does not harm others has no place in our civilized world.

We need to shut these bad people down.

>> No.15119907

NOOOO YOU CANT STAND WITH YOUR FAITH, LET ME DESTROY YOUR FAITH BY ALLOWING GAY THINGS IN IT

>> No.15119910

>>15119907
Faith means you have no rational defense for your actions. Meaning, you cannot explain why, using your own words, you are compelled to hate others for being different than you.

>destroy your faith

And? What's the issue with that? He has to bake a cake for someone he doesn't like. So what? Is that the end of the world?

>> No.15119911

>>15119900
>>15119910
Have fun burning in hell for all of eternity faggots.

>> No.15119913

>>15119900
we really fucking need a new rule about polshit bait threads.

>> No.15119915

>>15119911
I don't believe in imaginary places. You don't scare me.

>> No.15119919

>>15119900
I think businesses should be allowed to choose who to serve. But it should go both ways. You should be allowed to choose not to serve a democrat or a republican.

>> No.15119923

>>15119919
Non discrimination laws have existed for centuries. The whole point of opening a business to the public is that you cannot pick and choose your customer base. If anyone can enter your business during open hours, you are open to the public, and private ownership is irrelevant, legally.

Political views are not a protected class, legally. Protected classes emerge after discrimination. They don't come out of nowhere.

>> No.15119927

>>15119919
Good thing nobody fuckin' listens to you then huh

>> No.15119941

>>15119923
Actually the whole point of opening a business to the public is to provide goods and/or services in exchange for money. People can and do choose their customer base to the extent that the government doesn't prevent them from doing so. Hence: "No shoes, no shirt, no service."

>> No.15119945
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15119945

>>15119900
>be Christian bakery
>dumb fuck dykes want a fag cake
>"No."
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>get arrested for hate crime
>convert to pisslam
>sue bigot dykes
>get to meet President Harris
>given Presidential Medal of Freedom for multicult goodthink
>make frosting with lard
checkmate

>> No.15119946

>>15119900
>I’m thinking a three-tiered white cake. Cheesecake frosting. And the topper should be a large figure of Satan, licking a 9” black Dildo. I would like the dildo to be an actual working model, that can be turned on before we unveil the cake. I can provide it for you if you don’t have the means to procure one yourself.
washingtonexaminer.com/weekly-standard/masterpiece-cakeshop-colorado-baker-faces-complaint-from-transgender-customer

>> No.15119956

>>15119941
Not wearing shoes or a shirt is not a legally protected class.

That is an example of rejecting customers who have entered your business dressed inappropriately. Thus you are setting up a false equivalence because simply being gay is not inappropriate.

>>15119945
There are zero (irl) examples where Muslim-owned businesses were permitted to ignore non discrimination laws in ways Christians were not.

>> No.15119959

>>15119900
>Hate towards people for what they cannot control and does not harm others has no place in our civilized world.


Can I fuck your wife?. I cant control the urge.

Your statement is flawed.

>> No.15119962

>>15119956
Cake decoration is art. It's no different than an artist opening a business to take commissions. Do you think it's sensible that we should be forcing artists to create art - inescapably a form of self expression - that expresses ideas that they fundamentally oppose?

>> No.15119964

He was jacking off in the icing and knew the faggots would out him if he baked their cake. It was a catch hiv 22.

>> No.15119968

>>15119959
Obviously you perceive fucking someone else's wife to be a harmful act.

Simply being gay is not a harmful act.

>>15119962
It doesn't matter if it is art. You are a business open to the public and thus held to obey public accommodations laws.

>Do you think it's sensible that we should be forcing artists to create art

yes, if the reason they wish to refuse is based, at least in part, on someone's membership in a legally protected class

either you believe in equal protection of the laws, or you don't, in your case you believe gays should be second class citizens

>> No.15119972

>>15119968
I don't have to hold any particular beliefs about gays to doubt the wisdom of forcing artists to create things they don't want to.

>> No.15119974

>>15119911
Why would gays be sent to hell for being born that way?
That wouldn't make sense that God punishes them for His own mistakes.
Gay haters on the other hand that makes much more sense to me that they go to hell. Their choices are in direct contradiction with what is written in the Bible. Jesus was good even to low moral people like prostitutes.

>> No.15119980

>>15119972
He choose to operate a business with a physical storefront open to the public. Funny how Christians only cry about religious freedom when they cannot persecute others.

>> No.15119984

>>15119980
So an artist on the internet is a morally different entity to you?
(The exact laws don't mean much to me, I'm not even murican)

>> No.15119987

>>15119984
Let's try a different point. If he were not an artist, and what he were creating were not art, would it then be wrong for him to discriminate?

I don't consider a bakery an artist, but it is irrelevant since you believe he has the right to persecute gays for whatever reason he wants.

>So an artist on the internet is a morally different entity to you?

correct because public accommodations laws only apply to businesses with physical storefronts as such twitter or whatever is free to delete your posts because you are gay or straight or whatever they wish.

>im not american

stay out of the discussion then bigot

>> No.15119988

>>15119974
Yes Jesus both defended prostitutes and said men who were fags would go to hell.
Shockingly your hurt ego doesn't contradict moral teaching.

>> No.15119991

>>15119988
Where did jesus mention gays in the bible?

>> No.15119994

>>15119991
Read it and find out, heathen.

>> No.15119996

>>15119994
I don't believe Jesus ever mentions gays in the bible. I think you are mistaken.

>> No.15119998

I'm not gay but you have to admit that homophobic people tend to have very low IQ.
And this thread confirms it.
That's why so many Americans are vocally anti-gay.

>> No.15120000

>>15119998
They enjoy having a convenient scapegoat to bully and blame for their problems.

What happens to a "cake artist" forced to bake a cake for a gay couple? Nothing. Nothing happens.

Of course, if they ever were targeted for discrimination (they are not), they would change their tune.

>> No.15120006

I though private businezzes were free to do whatever they want???? wtf reddit

>> No.15120007

>>15120006
Do kids in schools not learn about the civil rights era anymore? These rights were hard-fought.

>> No.15120016

>>15119956
You will never be a real girl

>> No.15120017

>>15119900
Leviticus 18:22

>> No.15120021

>>15120000
I think it has to do with the hypertrophied sociopathic traits of most Americans. When you think about it it makes sense. Most settlers left Europe because they were pariahs and were not well integrated into society.

>> No.15120022

>>15120016
That's fine. I'm a feminine gay man and happy to be that way.

>>15120021
I don't think calling people sociopaths is helpful. I think getting the people hating gays to actually, you know, talk to irl gay people, and communicate is what's helpful.

People relying on negative stereotypes rarely have in depth personal interactions with the people who belong to the group they are making assumptions about.

>> No.15120023

>>15120017
This verse doesn't say that you must hate on gays. It only says how YOU must act toward your sexuality.
I thought that American protestcucks were very autistic about being precise about the Bible. But I think that this is a lack of intelligence that is showing here more than intellectual dishonesty.

>> No.15120029

>>15119956
>>15119956
A business owner could elect to permit shirtless/shoeless people to use their store if they so chose, it has nothing to do with whether or not it's "inappropriate."

>>15120000
>What happens to a "cake artist" forced to bake a cake for a gay couple? Nothing. Nothing happens.

What happens is that he's forced to bake a cake he'd rather not bake i.e. forced labor, otherwise known as slavery.

>> No.15120031

>>15120022
>feminine gay man
jesus, how often do u get flamed on this board? i always assumed everyone who would fit this description just dont out themselves here but u just did

>> No.15120033

>>15120022
>I don't think calling people sociopaths is helpful
What are you talking about? I'm not trying to be helpful to you, I couldn't care less about you.
I was just stating an observation about Americans.

>> No.15120035

>>15119900
go home and fuck off of /ck/ you actual nigger

>> No.15120042

>>15119968
It is though, it harms society.

>> No.15120044

>>15120029
It has everything to do with it being considered inappropriate attire. People are expected to wear some sort of shirt in public. Being gay is not inappropriate as not wearing a shirt is.

>What happens is that he's forced to bake a cake he'd rather not bake i.e. forced labor, otherwise known as slavery.

and then? Then what? He has to bake something he doesn't want to. Does his life end?

>>15120031
i'm proud to be gay and fem

>> No.15120047

>>15120042
How have you been harmed personally by gay people being allowed to have civil marriages?

>> No.15120056

>>15120044
>i'm proud to be gay and fem
What is there to be proud about?
I mean when you say bullshit like this in a sense you say that gay haters are right because it means that you chose to be gay. You can only be proud of a choice you made.
I'm not proud for being tall or for having a big dick, it would make no sense.

>> No.15120058

>>15119910
>he has to
the same freedom that lets you suck cocks lets him deny you services.

nobody died of aids because they didnt get a cake last i checked

>> No.15120063

>>15119913
Jannies and mods don't give a shit. They sat idly by watching the cancer spread.

>> No.15120075

>>15120056
I am proud that I don't have to hide who I am to others.

>> No.15120084

>>15120075
But you have nothing to do with it. Don't be proud of the achievement of others, that's retarded.

>> No.15120086

>>15120084
I am proud that I don't have to hide being gay knowing many who came before me did. I was always this way, I never chose to be attracted to the same sex.

>> No.15120087

>>15120047
>you haven't been killed why would you oppose murder?

>> No.15120089

>>15120087
Do you know anyone who has been harmed by gays being allowed to marry?

>> No.15120091

>>15120086
imagine thinking youre some kind of fucking oppressed minority because you suck cocks. i bet the gay men who came before you would call you an annoying victim faggot

>> No.15120093

>>15120089
no

>> No.15120094

>>15120091
I'm also oppressed because I am an effeminate male. So it is both my attraction to the same sex, as well as my gender non conformity that result in my oppression.

I'd say people wanting to turn me away from businesses for showing up with my romantic partner of the same sex is oppression.

>> No.15120095

>>15120086
>I was always this way, I never chose to be attracted to the same sex.
That's precisely why there is nothing to be proud about. But I think it's a concept a bit above your pay grade, I don't feel like there is Einstein behind the screen.

>> No.15120096

>>15120089
I said it harms society as a whole.

>> No.15120101

>>15120095
I am proud that I do not have to actively hide my sexuality to others. I could choose to repress, like many who came before me did, and I do not, and that's what I am proud of. Your sexuality has never been at issue so you do not understand. Try having some empathy for once.

>>15120096
and you are allowed to be wrong

>> No.15120103

>>15120091
Exactly. Straight white males are the most oppressed.

>> No.15120113

>>15120094
its not oppression nobody said you couldnt be a homo? they just find you revolting and your marriage an insult to the holy institution of marriage which is an ancient tradition that revolves around procreation. the only reason why the store owner would be wrong in this situation is because marriage provides legal and tax benefits so gay people getting married is legally a thing a free society must allow. but as far as the ceremony is concerned, you are not having a christian wedding because homosexuality has nothing do with the christian ceremony, you are only legally married.

>> No.15120114

>>15119974
>being gay isn't a choice
wot