/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.15456377]

What are dishes that make Italians seethe?

[Anonymous No.15456381]

anything with garlic

[Anonymous No.15456382]

[Anonymous No.15456396]

Anything with this.

[Anonymous No.15456409]

All of them

[Anonymous No.15456421]

>>15456382
Corn on a pizza....WHY?!

[Anonymous No.15456422]

>>15456377
italians are the mexicans of europe

[Anonymous No.15456424]

Italian subs

[Anonymous No.15456452]

>>15456421
Tastes good

[Anonymous No.15456480]

It's like Zyklon B for jews

[Anonymous No.15456483]

>>15456396
What's that dressing made with?

[Anonymous No.15456497]

>>15456377
I don't even know if I'd eat that to own the eyetalians. Ketchup on pasta just seems like it wouldn't be tasty

[Anonymous No.15456524]

>>15456377
that actually sounds dank but i sure as shit wouldn't buy it in a restaurant

[Anonymous No.15456529]

>>15456497
fried hot dogs with ketchup spaghetti is fucking delicious see how quick you slurp it all up

[Anonymous No.15456599]

>>15456529
Yeah, I think I'd go for it, probably try it with some tobascco sauce too as they mentioned. Making Italian seethes will add even more flavor

[Anonymous No.15456631]

>>15456377
I made this before one day out of curiosity, it's honestly not bad.

[Anonymous No.15456632]

>>15456483
Italians

[Anonymous No.15456711]

>>15456497
Ketchup with spaghetti is just horrid. Don't care for all that other shit thrown into the OP dish either, or at least the whole mix of ingredients.

[Anonymous No.15456713]

>>15456632
Is that why they're letting in mass migration?

[Anonymous No.15456723]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TFeGkjN6Rc

[Anonymous No.15456732]

>le ill eat dog turds to make Italians "seethe" like in my epic maymay mamma mia super Mario haha xD yummy dog shit with ketchup haha seethe
lol what an insecure tard

[Anonymous No.15456740]

>>15456480
In all honesty I still don't know what the fuck is Alfred's sauce. Is this supposed to be cacio e pepe?

[Anonymous No.15456763]

>>15456740
It's fettuccine al burro, except instead of mixing it at the table you prepare something closer to a beschamel separately, using heavy cream, and relying on heaps of parmesan cheese to thicken it. It's a convenience food in America because you can buy it jarred, then simply heat it up and toss it with pasta.

It's not very good, honestly.

[Anonymous No.15456785]

>>15456377
>tomato-based sauce, onion, button mushrooms, green peppers, sausage, bacon and optionally Tabasco sauce
sounds based
I want this on my pizza

[Anonymous No.15456795]

>>15456763
>closer to bechamel
>heavy cream
Yeah I'll pass that. I always found it funny that all these American/Anglo ways of eating sauces that genuinely originate always end with cream for some reason.
>Carbonara - cream
>Ragu aka bolognese - I've seen plenty add heavy cream
>fettuccine al burro - cream
I wonder if there is any specific reason why?

[Anonymous No.15456809]

>>15456795
Originate from Italy *

[Anonymous No.15456830]

>>15456377

Italians get really mad when you leave the peas and cream out of your pasta carbonara

[Anonymous No.15456854]

>>15456480
You have to be a disgusting lazy slob to buy these kinds of jarred cheese sauces, takes literally 2 minutes to toss your pasta with some butter/cream/grated cheese and guaranteed it'll taste several times better than that additives-filled slop.

[Anonymous No.15456863]

>>15456421
it's the only thing yanks fucking grow, lmao

[Anonymous No.15456891]

>>15456830
It's just not carbonara then. Having eaten both, what is the carbonara, and what is the British version, with cream, but without peas (I think they normally add it, but not then), I have to say the original is way better and a completely different thing from the cream one. British version is only preferable if you genuinely have shit-tier eggs, no grated cheeses and you're using bacon, like in your photo. But if you have pecorino cheese (and grana/parma as most Italians do 50/50), nice eggs with good yolks, and good guanciale (or pancetta, which is what 90% of Italians will use since it's easier to find and the best substitute, arguably some people prefer it because it has less fat, imho guanciale is better BECAUSE of the fat), the carbonara doesn't need any cream, peas, garlic, hot chili, golden flakes, chicken, or whatever the hell Angloids put into it. I always suggest people just to call it cream and peas, which is a perfectly fine name, rather than "carbonara", which is plain misleading and nothing like what the real thing is supposed to be. You can argue about semantics of what a recipe is for thousand years, but they're nothing alike, and your insistence on using an Italian name for an Italian dish that isn't actually Italian, nor cooked anything like the original, is pretty retarded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaPdEPl5gdI
My favourite version. :^]
>>15456382
Pizette are very common in Italy. Those don't even look bad, just take off the corn. Grill the corn instead, it's much better.

[Anonymous No.15456916]

>>15456891
>Pizette
pizzette*

[Anonymous No.15456923]

>>15456377
mac and cheese

[Anonymous No.15456934]

>>15456795
Idk either it is quite strange, hopefully a more enlightened American can answer. Most people here find drinking milk disgusting and unordinary yet they'll chug mayo and ranch with the most revolting room temperature preserved cream both in stench and taste. Its like suburban people have been completely conditioned to accept ready made food quality as utterly standard and some other specific natural things as foreign. Doesnt just apply to food either.

[Anonymous No.15456968]

>>15456863
japs are the ones obsessed with corn on pizza, most amerimutts would retch at the idea

[Anonymous No.15457013]

>>15456377
Everything called Italian food, cooked by it's bastard American children.

[Anonymous No.15457050]

italians are so fucking cringy, nobody gives a fuck about the way your grandmother made it you dumb, dirty, poor wop

[Anonymous No.15457058]

>>15456377
Carbonara when it’s made properly with cream.

[Anonymous No.15457091]

>>15456795
It's mainly because of how cheap dairy was historically in England/America vs the continent.

Victorian England was the first place to produce milk on an industrial scale. It was cheap, calorie dense, and consequently somewhat essential for the urban poor and middle class in order to get the necessary sustenance. Especially at a time when most bread you could buy had enough plaster of Paris and alum in it to slowly kill you and your kids, at least if you lived in a city. It became more prominent in England than elsewhere as a result. Add to this the cooler climate compared to Italy, that necessitates more calories in general, and it's not surprising why cream and milk are more popular.

America is a little different. They industrialized their dairy later, but comprehensive agricultural subsidies during the depression led to a lot of dairy production, and over time it reached ridiculous levels. Much like in England in the Victorian period, America in the 20th century had incredibly cheap milk, butter, and cream due to these subsidies, and furthermore the advent of big agribusiness drove down costs, and that started in the USA. Again, the cooler climate encourages richer foods. Milk consumption per capita has dropped over time as the center of population tracks southward, houses become better heated, and the climate warms.


Most people cook sauces with milk more than cream, actually, since it's cheaper.

But really, it's largely availability.

[Anonymous No.15457110]

>>15456795
>I wonder if there is any specific reason why?
Milk and create are go to things, and if a sauce looks creamy someone will think to use that, rather than making a sauce of eggs and water, because we think putting custard on your food is wrong.

[Anonymous No.15457131]

>>15457110
Carbonara isn't a custard, that is a really bad comparison. It's the fat from cheese, eggs and from the pork that makes an emulsion, i.e. sauce. Considering how much fat it already has, cream seems bizzare. But I understand that in Anglo world it isn't really prepared with the right meat or cheese, so it works better that way, even if it isn't really the same thing at all.

[Anonymous No.15457138]

Vitello Tonato with ketchup

[Anonymous No.15457140]

>>15456381
They hate aglio e olio?

[Anonymous No.15457142]

>>15456483
creamy Italians

[Anonymous No.15457164]

>>15457091
I'm fairly certain milk was common in Italy too as a poorfaggot ingredient. After all most people owned some domestic animals, cows, sheep and goats were all great for they produced nutritious food on a constant basis. Italy has hundreds (probably more than thousand) of different kinds of cheeses too. Which makes sense as it preserves milk. Even today people will make ricotta when their milk goes sour. Remember that large parts of this country are mountains or hills, and those are perfect places for cow pastures when they have good meadow, or, if the soil is worse and the conditions poorer, goats. I'm from Piemonte and when you go up the mountains, you also get good cheese.

Interesting bit about food history btw.
>>15457138
Anything with ketchup is abbhorent, yeah.
>>15457140
No. I think what the guy is saying is that Italians don't really use garlic as much as "Italian"-Americans do, i.e. most definitely not in every single dish. So some foreigners, especially from US, have a retarded idea that garlic is a typical Italian flavour when it is more of a specific flavour for specific dishes. Even aglio e olio (typically with peperoncino) is usually one clove, maybe two, of garlic at most, and isn't meant to be overpowering. When Italians say "piccante", they usually mean mildly spicy, not ten pieces of hot pepper per plate minimum.

[Anonymous No.15457183]

>>15456377

[Anonymous No.15457197]

>>15457183
I don't think you need to be Italian to think that looks and tastes like utter shit.

[Anonymous No.15457208]

>>15457197
tried it and it's easily better than Italian style carbonara

[Anonymous No.15457210]

>>15457208
Well you have bad taste then.

[Anonymous No.15457236]

>>15457208
>Italy style
There is no such thing: there is only carbonara. Which is an Italian dish, but there is no such thing as carbonara in any "style". Peas and cream is an English dish.

[Anonymous No.15457237]

>>15457183
looks good

[Anonymous No.15457244]

>>15457236
there are lots of different carbonara styles. Italian style carbonara is just raw eggs and salmonella, so I prefer Filipino style or the original with cream from the us
weird having to explain this to you,

[Anonymous No.15457248]

>>15457244
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.15457275]

>>15457248
you should try pilipino carbonara some day

[Anonymous No.15457283]

>>15457275
Nah. I'd rather eat actual philipino food. You don't go there for a badly made Italian dish lul.

[Anonymous No.15457293]

>>15457131
>Carbonara isn't a custard, that is a really bad comparison. It's the fat from cheese, eggs and from the pork that makes an emulsion, i.e. sauce. Considering how much fat it already has, cream seems bizzare. But I understand that in Anglo world it isn't really prepared with the right meat or cheese, so it works better that way, even if it isn't really the same thing at all.
I’m fully aware if this, and I made carbonara as it’s meant to be made; to the minds of many Bongs adding Eggs means you are making custard. It’s only poor trash that use the jars of sauce, anyone that cooks rather than heating sloppa knows how to make it.

[Anonymous No.15457297]

>>15457283
it's actually American. Look it up kid

[Anonymous No.15457301]

>>15457236
No, there is carbonara and there are things that are not carbonara. It’s like the idiots that make chicken or pork stroganoff- there is no such thing.

[Anonymous No.15457315]

>>15457293
Ah, I get you now. Bong food like crumpets, scones and Bath bunn are underrated btw.
>>15457297
I did and it is not lul.
>>15457301
That is what I am saying. None of the English speaking sites have an actual recipe of stroganoff, you have to look for ruski one with google translate to get it right.

[Anonymous No.15457325]

>>15456854
Its targeted at poor people. When I was a university student I did the math, if I wanted creamy pasta it's cheaper to buy a jar than get cheese. The cheese alone costs more than two jars. It's one of the few dishes where cooking it yourself isn't cheaper.

[Anonymous No.15457342]

>>15456377
Dishes made in some other part of Italy.

[Anonymous No.15457359]

>>15457342
I think all Italian regions are based, even Molise and Marche, which nobody ever remembers they exist.
Extra based regions in my book:
Piemonte,
Friuli,
Emiglia-Romagna,
Sardinia,
Sicilia.

[Anonymous No.15457413]

>>15457315
https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/beefstroganoffwithma_71568

[Anonymous No.15457424]

>>15456377
why do they use ketchup so much? ketchup fucking sucks

[Anonymous No.15457439]

>noooo you put an ingredient in a thing, that's not how your SUPPOSED to do it
Why are they like this?

[Anonymous No.15457446]

>>15456377
That actually sounds ok as long as you don't use ketchup

[Anonymous No.15457482]

>>15456377
They're jealous they didn't come up with it

[Anonymous No.15457607]

>>15456377
Japanese love Napolitan.

[Anonymous No.15457638]

>>15456377
A little old format in Japan.
Stir-fried pasta. It's a little dry.

[Anonymous No.15457646]

wtf why would they like that over like a good mariana or bolognese?

[Anonymous No.15457655]

>>15456377
At a Japanese cafe.

[Anonymous No.15457710]

>>15456377
I once tried Carbonara in Turkey (they added Turkey bacon) now I hate muslims even more.

[Anonymous No.15457719]

Until the 1970s, there were very few authentic Italian restaurants in Japan.
And in a typical restaurant in a Japanese town, there were only two types of pasta dishes: bolognese called meat sauce and napolitan with tomato ketchup.
Boil the pasta and save it. It was a style of frying in a frying pan before serving it to customers.
After that, freshly boiled pasta became very popular in Japan.
Japanese classic style stir-fry in a frying pan will decline. However, ketchup-flavored Napolitan has been loved even after the cooking method changed.

[Anonymous No.15457725]

>>15457439
Italians tend to seethe a lot when their sacred food is not made or even eaten the way they want to. I myself witnessed an Italian guy in Russia doing autistic screeching because a couple shared a pizza in a restaurant or a kid was eating a croissant filled with pork, he also mocked a girl because she couldn't eat spaghetti with a fork only.

[Anonymous No.15457733]

>>15457646
two nukes wasn't enough

[Anonymous No.15457740]

>The "best" chef in the world can't make a Carbonara but he made a career screaming at people for being bad cooks.

https://youtu.be/5t7JLjr1FxQ

[Anonymous No.15457753]

>>15457725
>hur! italians are sensitive faggots about their sloppa!
did you only just figure this out? what are you like twelve years old? get a clue, dumbass. it's also common knowledge that japanese cuisine is a joke and their idea of italian food is a nightmare by anyones standards

[Anonymous No.15457762]

>>15456740
oh i think you know all about alfreds white sauce there my friend

[Anonymous No.15457774]

>>15457439
their food is tradition. thousands of years of tradition. then you have some faggot who comes out of no where and goes "yurr hurr i can make that better! tooheedurr i put peas in it!! its way better how come you faggots didnt think of that haha wow !!"

[Anonymous No.15457799]

>>15457753
>while in the west some liberal blue hair slut has a meltdown because a white guy tried to make sushi, gooks can turn Italian cuisine into an absolute abomination and only a Mongolian imageboard points this out.

[Anonymous No.15457820]

Anything that is better than "authentic" italian. Everything from cincinnati chili and bagel bites to even an olive garden improves on the italian experience, and they can't stand it.

[Anonymous No.15457835]

>>15457820
do you honestly think cincinnati chili is better than something like a traditional slow cooked ragu? if yo u are just trying to 'le ebin trigger italians' or something i get it but if that is your honest opinion i think you may be actually retarded

[Anonymous No.15457843]

>>15456377
Based nips. Fuck shitalians.

[Anonymous No.15458077]

>>15457413
>no pickles
>that much sour cream
Try going to random Eastern Euro country for a propper stroganoff.
>>15457439
>Waah waah why is my ramen packet with ketchup not pasta al sugo?
>>15457725
>croissant with pork
But you can eat it with ham and cheese, dumb larper.
>he also mocked a girl because she couldn't eat spaghetti with a fork only.
It takes a retard not to be able to tbf.
>>15457820
>here's all these American dishes nobody in Italy has ever heard of
Yeah, entire country is in riots because of your comment now.
>>15457843
You people would eat dog shit to spite imaginary Italians lmao.

[Anonymous No.15458096]

>>15457013
Italians retconned their food, bro, based on the popularity of shit in the new world
American Italian is actually the progenitor of everything you like about Italian food

[Anonymous No.15458116]

>>15456377
>got gifted a chinese cookbook
>recipe for spicy and sour soup
>calls for a ton of ketchup
Why do Asians do this? People joke about Americans putting ketchup on pasta but why are Asians actually this retarded?

[Anonymous No.15458124]

>>15458096
such as?

[Anonymous No.15458150]

>>15457774
Tomatos which are an integral part of modern italian cuisine have only been used there in food for like 3 centuries. Other people's food as just about as much "tradition" than italian, yet others don't spaz out like italoids do when you make a variation of a certain dish.

[Anonymous No.15458154]

>>15456422
I thought Turks were the Mexicans of Europe, and Italians are more like the Puerto Ricans.

[Anonymous No.15458172]

>>15458150
no, it's just that italian cuisine is very popular
you still get mad mexicans when you badly cook mexican food, the same for chinese, korean, spanish etc
look at the shitstorm with gordon ramsay's fried rice

[Anonymous No.15458184]

>>15458077
I, too, reply to a dozen people in a single post just to declare how not mad I am.

[Anonymous No.15458264]

>>15458096
I'm literally in Italy right now. Tell me all about it.
>>15458150
3 centuries is a long time, my friend. That's as long as USA has existed.
>>15458154
I don't think any of these analogies make sense.
>>15458184
>hur dur why do you discuss food on food board, post more mcdonalds and /pol/ bait
pic related, my frien

[Anonymous No.15458382]

>>15458077
>no pickles
Says nothing about pickles in Larousse Gastronomique, pickles are probably in some rustic poor version of something the fish is related to, no thanks.

[Anonymous No.15458398]

>>15458382
Pickles are a must. I consider it the authorative version.
>French book on Russian food
Just go and eat some boomer food m9 from there and you'll see.

[Anonymous No.15458410]

>>15456424
Why would these bother Italians? Isn't it just called Italian sub because it's got Italian cured meats in it?

[Anonymous No.15458436]

>>15456422
Mexicans and Italians both have great food.

[Anonymous No.15458463]

question to the italybro in this thread, is it considered normal to cook most things with extra based olive oil? when should I use light olive oil

[Anonymous No.15458481]

>>15457843
>>15458096
>>15458150
I wonder how many eyetalians sperged out when they caught wind of the first frenchman adding tomato sauce to their precious noodles in the 19th century. I can't wait until a hundred years from now they start adding shredded american cheddar and sugar, try to take credit and insist that eating it any other way is heresy

[Anonymous No.15458527]

>>15458463
Depends? Are you deep frying? Then no, use anything but olive oil. For frying regular stuff it depends. Sauteeing onions and things like that is fine, but trying an egg is not the best. I use olive oil when sauteeing vegetables mostly. Otherwise use it for dressings, salads and marinades. I'll fry eggs, meat and things like that with neutral tasting oil.
>>15458481
You're obsessed mate.

[Anonymous No.15458572]

>>15458154
>I thought Turks were the Mexicans of Europe

Turks are the cockroachs of the world

[Anonymous No.15458578]

>>15457439

[Anonymous No.15458589]

>>15457359
Puglia is the most based imo
>fresh seafood every other meal
>uncommon vegetables (like fiori di zucca)
>good wine
>good ice cream
>sweets always feature almonds or marzipan
the best part is the lack of heavy, excessively creamy and overcooked pasta stuff
I wonder if pugliese food is more 'greek' than other italian food

[Anonymous No.15458592]

>>15458096
>American Italian

no such thing. An hyphen denotes a foreign invaders. Kill all foreign invaders

[Anonymous No.15458596]

>>15458527
I use it for most things except eggs like you mentioned, also I don't really fry stuff unless its chicken thighs or something at medium temperature where I think olive oil improves the flavor. Most of what I do is sauteing vegetables or livers or something else going into a sauce.

with regard to deep frying I'm curious what you think about this technique https://youtu.be/9DOf38qUZ8c?t=810
it's a 360 degree deep fry with EVOO, I've tried it with zucchini that later went into a sauce and the flavor is quite based

[Anonymous No.15458619]

>>15458578
These new memes fucking suck. Last time I ever actively browsed /pol/ was in 2011 and it was all about skittles and grape juice lol.
>>15458589
Puglia is the biggest food producer IIRC.
>fresh seafood
Any sea-side region, specifically towns next to the sea benefit from this.
>fior di zucca
It's a very common thing to eat in Piemonte though. You lightly batter it and fry it in a small pan. Very nice if done well. I've been told it's done to prune zucchine, so it has a few, bigger ones rather than many small ones.
>good ice-cream
Pretty much anywhere in Italy m9.
>sweets always feature almonds
Try torrone (not TERRONE lol) with almonds.
Italians don't do overcooked pasta, you're thinking foreign cooking. Most people are quick to point out if pasta is anything but al dente. And you're probably right about the Greek bit. There's even a very, very specific Greek dialect, some speculate it is descended directly from ancient Greek settlers in that area from more than 2000 years ago. I think it's probably more to do with Greek refugees from Ottomans/othre shit they've been through.

[Anonymous No.15458646]

>>15458619
>These new memes fucking suck. Last time I ever actively browsed /pol/ was in 2011 and it was all about skittles and grape juice lol.

[Anonymous No.15458656]

>>15458596
I've never had it deep fried in olive oil. Most use peanut or sunflower oil, or whatever neutral tasting oil.
https://www.cucchiaio.it/ricetta/ricetta-fiori-zucca-fritti-pastella/
Like so ^.
I think olive oil isn't the best for deep frying anything to be honest. Seems to depart too much flavour (espcially on something so light and delicate as fior di zucca), and I think it wouldn't taste so good either after being heated so much.
It's a good starter if made properly to be light and delicate.
>>15458646
>if you're not a /pol/tard you're a femunust libturd
I can see that the average IQ has decreased steadily, especially after 2016, on your board.

[Anonymous No.15458665]

>>15458656
>I can see that the average IQ has decreased steadily, especially after 2016, on your board.

[Anonymous No.15458666]

The way filipinos prepare spaghetti. absolutely rancid

[Anonymous No.15458668]

>>15458665

[Anonymous No.15458676]

>>15458656
carciofi alla giudia are traditionally done in EVOO right? I think the strongest argument for not using it is the price though, which is why I usually don't deep fry in olive oil. But it has a great taste with squash that's going into a sauce, in my experience. Unfortunately I can't get squash blossoms around here

[Anonymous No.15458706]

>>15458676
I've never actually tried it. I don't like artichokes too much personally. Looking at the website I use the most, they use normal oil, although this uses olive oil.
http://cosefatteincasa.it/2013/03/21/carciofi-alla-giudia/
Then again someone from North won't use olive oil as much as the South that primarily produces it.
>can't get squash blossoms
Ever try growing any yourself? Understandable if you don't have the space for gardening. Could try asking somebody who does. Eat them quickly though as they go off fast when cut.

[Anonymous No.15458713]

>>15458666
What, you don't like hot dog noodles?

[Anonymous No.15458721]

>>15458706
Interesting, every recipe I've seen uses olive oil. But artichokes are much stronger tasting than squash blossoms. Also no, I live in an apartment so unless you can grow them that won't work

[Anonymous No.15458725]

>>15458721
grow them inside*

[Anonymous No.15458742]

>>15458398
>>French book on Russian food
>French book giving a recipe that a French chef won a competition in St Petersburg creating the recipe that is published today and not some sickly thing with cubes of meat covered in all spice

[Anonymous No.15458744]

>>15458721
Most people find using olive oil for deep frying weird. I don't really use olive oil all that often myself.
https://www.cucchiaio.it/ricetta/ricetta-vitello-tonnato/
This is a based recipe from Piemonte if you're interested in something more readily available.

[Anonymous No.15458746]

>>15458742
muh pickle stoganoff The Real Deal™, anon

[Anonymous No.15458756]

>>15458744
That looks interesting, I'll try it the next time I have veal

[Anonymous No.15458765]

Remind me again why anglo and germanic nations get so offended at Italians pointing out that they're not preparing Italian food correctly? Is it autism?

[Anonymous No.15458780]

>>15458744
>vitello tonnato
we eat this down here (argentina) but only on christmas. I've never understood why we treat it as christmas food

[Anonymous No.15458795]

>>15458780
Argies eat a lot of Italian food, no? Knew a few people with dual citizenship with Italy because their granparents were from the North.

[Anonymous No.15458836]

>>15458765
idk but it smells of libtardism
>nooooooo words can't mean specific things!! how dare you assign determinate properties to this object!! anything is possible :) I'm trans btw :)

>>15458795
sure but it's italian-argentine in the same sense that italian-american food is not exactly like the original - and in some cases have become grotesque distortions - due to different availability of cheeses, cured meats, flours, liquors

[Anonymous No.15458838]

>>15458668
didn't know I was arguing with the pic related

[Anonymous No.15458852]

>>15458744
>>15458756
one last question anon, do you ever bother using olive oils that aren't extra virgin eg pic related, or is it better to just use sunflower oil or something at that point

[Anonymous No.15458869]

>>15458838
>has saved 20 something photos of effiminate, ugly "men" on his hard drive
You're one step away from sucking dick in restrooms and stuffing your asshole with pink dildoes.
>>15458852
Depends. I'd say most of the commercial stuff probably isn't 100% stuff anyways. I try to buy the best I can with what I got, but you're not going to lose a limb if you use something less than the best stuff you can get. It's still better to use a meh olive oil for salad dressing than bits of sunflower oil.

[Anonymous No.15458872]

>>15456377

[Anonymous No.15458876]

>>15458869
I meant for cooking

[Anonymous No.15458880]

>take chinese noodles
>add american tomato
Viola, authentic italian cuisine!

[Anonymous No.15458888]

>>15458852
different anon but afaik that sort of oil is basically about 70% mystery oil mix already (but check the legal definitions in your country). may feature soybean, canola, palm oil. I personally choose to not make that gamble. buy the best evoo you can find and a good sunflower oil and call it a day.

[Anonymous No.15458890]

>>15458876
Do you mean things like frying?
Easily substitute with neutral tasting oil or butter. It's really preference for most. If you like olive oil flavour, buy the best you can get, if you don't care about the oil flavour and the vegetable/meat/whatever itself, take something neutral, ideally healthier, the better.

[Anonymous No.15458898]

>>15458890
>and the vegetable/meat/whatever itself
and MORE about the*
Olive oil can overpower some things imho. That's why I like blanching carrot strips and then sweating them in butter, for example.

[Anonymous No.15458911]

>>15458888
digits confirm, I'm in the US so its probably bullshit oil

>>15458890
>>15458898
Alright thanks anon

[Anonymous No.15458930]

>>15457439
For me it's not even about culture or tradition, it's just that names are important and using the "wrong" names is being dishonest.

[Anonymous No.15458934]

>>15457325
cheese can be economical if you buy in bulk. costco or a restaurant supply store. pecorino and mozzarella blocks will last ages in a fridge, especially if you're using them regularly (shredding off the outer layers

[Anonymous No.15458951]

>>15458930
yeah, the problem is americans don't really have strict definitions of food like Italians do, so they'll call their cream, peas and bacon sauce carbonara because people have a general idea of what carbonara is and they'll get more views than if they call it "cream, peas and bacon" sauce

t. americano

[Anonymous No.15458962]

>>15456377
I don't think you quite understand how it works. Italians hate anyone trying to pass their trash "imitation" as genuine Italian food. Nobody thinks "Naporitan" is genuine Italian food, so we really don't care. Might even be pretty good, Japs do have a culinary culture so usually they don't eat absolute trash like Anglos do.
>>15457140
We hate "Italian"-American food that dumps 3 bulbs of garlic into everything. Overpowers everything and people can smell your stench from a mile away.

[Anonymous No.15459022]

>>15458962
>Japs do have a culinary culture so usually they don't eat absolute trash like Anglos do.

[Anonymous No.15459057]

>>15458869
>has saved 20 something photos of ugly libtards on his hard drive

of course. Libtards are the most superficial people and hate being reminded of how ugly they are. Post face if your not an ugly libtard

[Anonymous No.15459085]

>>15459057
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.15459093]

>>15459085
you >>> red dit . fag

[Anonymous No.15459119]

Someone escaped the retard pen. Fetch the assburger wrangler.

[Anonymous No.15459134]

>>15458934
>Imagine having what you eat decided for you by the arbitrary consumption / spoilage rates of a product in your fridge, a product which you vastly overbought in order to save a few precious pennies.

Buy as you need. You aren't a fucking restaurant.

[Anonymous No.15459148]

>Carbonara does not need cream nor peas to taste good or achieve a creamy consistency, these are crutches to cover up an inability to make a custard in the pan out of the eggs, cheese, and pork fat
Why does this simple sentence make anons around the world fly into a seething, foaming rage?

[Anonymous No.15459162]

Italian anons, is video related a legit recipe for seafood pasta?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPdln-PUZuE

[Anonymous No.15459396]

>>15458077
>It takes a retard not to be able to tbf
You'd be surprised to see how many people can't eat spaghetti without a knife, especially in eastern Europe.

[Anonymous No.15459406]

>>15459162
Seems legit to me.

[Anonymous No.15459427]

>>15458481
>Banana ketchup
Wtf is that?sounds delicious and disgusting at the same time.

[Anonymous No.15459471]

>>15456529
t. bee

[Anonymous No.15459487]

>>15458838

[Anonymous No.15459644]

>>15457325
>The
A large wedge of parmesan is like 5$. Cream is like 2$. If I want one use out of the stuff it's cheaper with the jar, but if I want to make it again in a week or two it's cheaper to buy the ingredients

[Anonymous No.15460604]

>>15459427
Flip substitute for tomato ketchup which is fine but unlike normal humans they use it on foods where it doesn't belong (which I think is disgusting). That being said I've had it on grilled chicken and can confirm it's fucking delicious

[Anonymous No.15460941]

>>15458668
>>15458838

[Anonymous No.15461135]

>>15456830
Traditional carbonara is made just with eggs, not cream. only retards do it with cream

[Anonymous No.15461152]

>>15457439
It's called having a tradition and a food culture, something yankees will never understand.

[Anonymous No.15461179]

>>15456377
Why do italians more than anyone else seethe so much about any deviation from the original dish? Are they trolls?

[Anonymous No.15461253]

>>15456377
oddly enough there's lots of really good Italian food in Japan

[Anonymous No.15461402]

>>15456483
Soybean oil and spices

[Anonymous No.15462637]

>>15458962
Seethe harder, weeb greaseball faggot.

[Anonymous No.15462647]

Putting things on a pizza that don't belong there.

[Anonymous No.15462660]

>>15459427
It just tastes like ketchup, keep in mind that ketchup doesn't taste that way because of tomatoes but because of all the other shit in the bottle.

[Anonymous No.15462677]

>>15461152
Is part of your culture having some of the filthiest, most disgusting cities imaginable with crumbling, mid-20th century architecture and groveling migrants on every corner?

[Anonymous No.15462685]

>>15462677
infrastructure, not architecture

[Anonymous No.15462689]

>>15462677
Having no money is a bitch

[Anonymous No.15462710]

>>15462685
>Have you ever been to Detroit and thought "this would go great with wine"? Visit Italy today!
They do make some excellent pornographers though, a lot of my favorite artists are Italians.

>>15462677
To be fair that trash is probably from tourists.

[Anonymous No.15462737]

>>15457655
Was expecting chopsticks desu

[Anonymous No.15462860]

>>15456422
Well, both countries did have their cuisines perfect by America. And both countries are perpetually insecure about this.

[Anonymous No.15463051]

>>15457835
What am I looking at? That looks really good and I want to learn how to make it.

[Anonymous No.15463079]

>>15459644
For $7 you can buy 3 jars of alfredo sauce, each containing 7 servings.

[Anonymous No.15463112]

>>15456891
man the first time i made a carbonara i was drunk as shit on frosty jacks (courtesy of my housemate's psycho parents) and i did it traditionally and it came out perfect. the people who act like it's hard need to be shot in the fucking knee

[Anonymous No.15463128]

>>15456377
linguine with clams and alfredo sauce.
another thing that makes them seethe, this one is funny is asking for more pepper, some faggot comes around with a fucking stupid pepper mill and you want more pepper then mr shitoloio things is supposed to be. That gets the guidos uptight.

[Anonymous No.15463246]

>>15458150
Its kinda funny. Before tomatoes they were eating regular old peasant food like the rest of europe

[Anonymous No.15463261]

>>15456863

Except you don't put corn on pizza, you fucking Yuropoor shitter

[Anonymous No.15463484]

>>15462685
this is probably after a local open-air market, usually the cleaning service comes to take away some of the garbage

[Anonymous No.15463503]

>>15456830
>cream
Fuck the fuck off
T. Mad Italian

[Anonymous No.15463521]

>>15456795
Americans have an abundance of dairy and beef, not just now but historically. People cook with what they have. Why would americans go out of their way to use european ingredients that are overpriced in america, instead of adapting for what they have cheap access to?

[Anonymous No.15463540]

>>15458619
All the good posters left /pol/, it's 90% literal retarded schizos these days. They dont understand humour, they just spam.

[Anonymous No.15463552]

>>15456396
I love eye talian dressing

[Anonymous No.15463574]

>Naporitan

[Anonymous No.15463581]

>>15457301
Well my boyfriend liked my cute tofu stroganoff. We call it tofu stroge to make it even cuter

[Anonymous No.15463721]

>>15458930
>names are important and using the "wrong" names is being dishonest
Language is optimized for efficiency more than accuracy. You'd think using 6 words instead of 2 is not a big difference, but it really adds up over time.
I don't know if there's a term in linguistics for this, but using a modified name of an old thing to describe a new thing is an incredibly efficient way to convey information. "I've never seen Avatar, what's it about?" "It's basically Dances With Wolves in space." Boom.
I just invented a recipe in my head. I call it "surströmming sushi". Can you imagine what the dish would be like just from those two words? I'm going to google it and see if anyone tried making it.

[Anonymous No.15463742]

>>15458930
>>15463721
Yep, it exists. Did you have this in mind? Because I sure did. I didn't predict the tomato, onion and sauce, but I knew it would be a piece of rotten herring rolled into rice and possibly seaweed.

I'm sure this is disgusting (then again I tried surströmming and I found the taste as bad as the smell). But the language used was extremely effective - I predicted half the recipe from just two words. That's the power of language, and if we used names the way Italians want us two, we'd be losing that power for little gain.

[Anonymous No.15463779]

>>15458264
you are a terrible poster for a number of different reasons. just letting you know in case you ever wonder why no one responds to your posts

[Anonymous No.15463781]

this is not video games

[Anonymous No.15463828]

>>15457774
>thousands of years of tradition
lmao

[Anonymous No.15463915]

>>15457359
You forgot Liguria

[Anonymous No.15463959]

>>15463246
Like anchovies and deenz?

[Anonymous No.15463963]

>>15463261
Could be worse, the euronigs put corn in chili.

[Anonymous No.15463964]

>>15463581
You both will get the noose for that!

[Anonymous No.15464123]

>>15459644
My nigga a large wedge of parm in Toronto will run you absolutely no less than $10 and a jar of that shit will run you no more than $2.

So what the fuck

[Anonymous No.15464124]

>>15461135
woosh

[Anonymous No.15464165]

>>15462647
italians aren't an authority on pizza. the entire world eats american style pizza. when people think of pizza they think of american pizza

[Anonymous No.15464183]

>>15463261
>>15463963
Cope and seethe.

[Anonymous No.15465496]

>>15456382
oh shit, I thought those muffins were mushrooms. I have an idea that is probably going to piss off italians

[Anonymous No.15465518]

>>15456377
Is Italian the ultimate sloppa cuisine? I mean jesus christ
>pasta with tomato sloppa on top
>oh you don’t like tomato? How about Alfredo aka cum sloppa on top?
>no pasta? Here’s chicken, veal or eggplant. Guess what? Tomato sloppa goes on top
>pizza? Just bread with tomato and cheese sloppa
What is wrong with them?

[Anonymous No.15465520]

>>15456854
I tried it once to be lazy, and it really isnt worth even the low price it sells for. you can not know shit about alfredo other than the ingredients, and not even knowing the proper ratios you will end up with a better result. the only way to make something worse is adding so much flour that you;ve created a wet bread

[Anonymous No.15465533]

>>15465496
Tell me.
>>15465518
What are you crying about, what dishes are you describing? I think your brain has rotted from browsing too mcuh 4chan and you can only repeat buzzwords without understanding what you are saying yourself.

[Anonymous No.15465550]

>>15456830
fanabla

[Anonymous No.15465567]

>>15465533
Seething wop lmao

[Anonymous No.15465585]

>>15465518
>>pasta with tomato sloppa on top
>tomato sauce is sloppa
I guess bechamel and rest of the French mother sauces, and any sauce really, are all sloppa to you, my goblino friend.
>afredo
Italians don't eat Alfredo.
>chicken, veal or eggplant with tomato "sloppa"
What dishes are you describing? Milanesa doesn't have tomato sauce on top.
>pizza
>sloppa
Italian pizza is way more subdued in comparison to American, which is pure sloppa.

[Anonymous No.15465590]

>>15465567
Oldest trick in the book. I'll give you some attention your absentee black dad never gave you, my mutt friend.

[Anonymous No.15465601]

>>15465533
>Tell me.
American pizza with mushroom caps as a base instead of dough crust

[Anonymous No.15465605]

>>15465601
I don't think it would make anyone mad because you aren't pretending you are making some ancient dish in a traditional way. I think it would be somewhat retarded though. Mushrooms would absorb all the grease from the cheese, partially burn and get greasy with tomato sauce.

[Anonymous No.15465607]

>>15465518
>Americans posting about a cuisine they never truly experienced

My sides, every time

[Anonymous No.15465616]

>>15465605
what if i advertise it as authentic italian cuisine?

[Anonymous No.15465646]

>>15465616
First of all you'd be bullshitting, because there is no such thing. Second of all, I don't think 99,9% of Italians care enough to know what some restauraunt in USA serves. People got enough issues to worry about IRL, do you think it is exactly like 4chan memes where people are seething and crying because of some imagniary insults? Third, why would you insist on that, besides to be le epig troll and owning dem eyetalians xd?
I think pic related is the only mushroom you could reasonably use for it. They grow really wide. They taste OK, pretty decent coated in egg and fried in a pan; nutty, I'd say.

[Anonymous No.15465660]

>>15465533
>>15465585
>>15465607
I see the Italian sloppa force has arrived right on schedule!

[Anonymous No.15465667]

>>15465660
>meatballs and pasta
That's an American sloppa, mio amico. You could describe 99% of any given cuisine as "sloppa", if anything that has sauce or is moist is "sloppa" to you.

[Anonymous No.15465671]

>>15465646
so thats what intake filters are made of

[Anonymous No.15465892]

>>15458410
Because they just call them "subs" over there

[Anonymous No.15465941]

>>15457655
jap sphag gives me school vibes

[Anonymous No.15466682]

>>15458154
Turks aren't of Europe.

[Anonymous No.15467497]

>>15463051
its ragu. anon even said what it is... stop having autism.

[Anonymous No.15467515]

>>15466682
and mexicans arent from america, but they still live here...

[Anonymous No.15467526]

>>15458962
Ever read the manga Bambino?

[Anonymous No.15467582]

Why do Italians get so autistic about Carbonara and what constitutes an authentic one, when it literally had no recorded recipe prior to WWII and was originally a dish made with Allied bacon rations? Seriously, look up a historical outline of it; it's an extremely modern dish based upon necessity of food insecurity from the fallout of WWII and the usage of pancetta only occurred later once food supplies became more stable.

[Anonymous No.15467754]

>>15456732
> t. assmad italian

[Anonymous No.15467862]

>>15456480
Ya let me just keep wheels of cheese I'll use at most one a month along with cream and and and.... Or 1.50 for newman's and get 90% of the flavor

[Anonymous No.15467983]

>>15456891
>If my grandmother had wheels she'd have been a bike

[Anonymous No.15469111]

>>15456421
I don't think there is a bigger pleb filter in the world of pizza than corn. Corn on pizza is fucking amazing if the recipe is made with the corn in mind.

[Anonymous No.15469305]

>>15467515
they are of the americas retard. Turkey are not welcome in the EU

[Anonymous No.15469602]

>>15467582
Ergo you can put shit that is objectively worse. Great logic.

[Anonymous No.15469749]

This was invented in 60's. Let's switch out savoiardi (pavesini if you a real Chad) and replace it with deep-fried snicker bars, because hur dur muh modern recipe, ergo we can fuck it up and call it tiramisu even if there is tuna with mayo inside it.

[Anonymous No.15469847]

>>15469749
>This was invented in 60's

I had no idea but I knew ciabatta was only invented in the 80s. I wonder what else is this new.

[Anonymous No.15469859]

>>15469847
... and tards like OP won't shut up how Italian cuisine isn't "modern".

[Anonymous No.15470069]

>>15456377
real carbonara (with cream)

[Anonymous No.15470385]

>>15469305
>EU
who cares
They are steppe asians living in Asia Minor. That's what matters.

[Anonymous No.15470388]

>>15470069
and ham... sir, this is not carbonara; it is merely an undercooked casserole. Take it back and make some angry hand gestures at it until it's Italian.

[Anonymous No.15470665]

>>15470385
They're mostly Semitic and Caucasus people's mixed with native Greek stock. There's very few of them with actual Central Asian appearance, i.e. Mongoloids. That's why on the Western bits they can look white, whereas some of them look like Armenians or Arabs, but barely any of them look Mongoloid.
t. expert
And whatever chance they had at being "European" they squandered by becoming more radicalised and Islamic. Ataturk had the right idea, it's a shame they're slowly becoming just an another backward MENA shithole.

[Anonymous No.15470678]

>>15456891
>>15461135
>>15463503
>>15465550

Bait hook etc. just off a single mention of carbonara

[Anonymous No.15470689]

>>15469602
Ergo being autistic over its components because of tradition is retarded, it's a wartime food from not even 80 years ago. If you want to argue that it's the best way to make it than sure, argue that, but arguing it from a point of tradition is stupid as fuck.

[Anonymous No.15470691]

>>15470678
>pic related
Discussing food on a food board is the right thing to do, even if the person I am replying to is clearly baiting, as it might provoke actual discussions. I could've replied with some sort of a HURDURDUR UR SOYFAGGOTGAY LOL, but it will only encourage the cancer that is 4chan(nel aka nu-4chan) at the moment.

[Anonymous No.15470706]

>>15470689
>it's not tradition because it's 80 years ago
Yes it is now. Anyhow, that is irrelevant, and I agree with that. I've explained it several times already: you have fat from the pork, cheese and eggs. Adding more fat (way more in fact) by using cream is misguided and stupid. That is my POV and why I think Anglo way of doing it is not the best, although I partially blame it on lack of pancetta or guanciale, lack of pecorino cheese and in general lower standard for quality of food, i.e. eggs are worse, why not use cream.

[Anonymous No.15471846]

>>15457244
if you change a single ingredient its a different recipe, just dont call it carbonara

[Anonymous No.15471880]

>>15458116
the chinese burn off their taste buds with smoking from young age, they need tons of vinegar/spices to taste anything