Vegan Hate Thread

[Anonymous No.15865800]

[Anonymous No.15865806]

>>15865800
Checked

Video of vegans blocking a pregnant woman from getting to the hospital: https://streamable.com/jay71c

[Anonymous No.15865837]

[Anonymous No.15865844]

[Anonymous No.15865850]

>>15865837
PETA is dumb, but making things up to make them look bad is even dumber

[Anonymous No.15865851]

Lying to push their agenda

[Anonymous No.15865856]

>>15865800
>vegans
Anyone who supports an ideal with some penchant for morality and “doing the right thing” is inherently a puppet of the person who draws the lines telling you which way is the right way and which way is the wrong way.
For example: I could tell you that by supporting local, decentralized farming within your own hometown is the best way to source your food, ensure it’s not cruelty-based, and to ensure you don’t fuck your diet (and, subsequently, your body and mind). However, this is still following the moral lines I have drawn for you.

The only way to truly enlighten your mind when it concerns food and diet is to come to the conclusion, independently, that growing and producing your own food, independently, is the only way to ever break free of the retarded idealism’s the capitalist market wants you to support (hint hint: the centralized forces in the market ALWAYS want YOU to support THEM instead of YOU supporting YOURSELF).

[Anonymous No.15865858]

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[Anonymous No.15865871]

[Anonymous No.15865879]

[Anonymous No.15865880]

Veganism is a sign of extremely low-self esteem. They literally think their lives are worth the same as that of a pigs LMAO. Poor people.

>>15865858
My mom's cat would steal tomatoes out of our shopping bags.

[Anonymous No.15865889]

>>15865851
I'm not even outspokenly anti-vegan, but the amount of times "friends" on Fagbook posted this infographic as some sort of gotcha whenever I brought up vegans should be less rigid, and at least supplement with casein or whey once in a while.
They were of course all skinnyfat and pale, and always had some vague health issue (fibromyalgia or PCOS or something, usually women of course) that they ironically claimed veganism was treating
Every vegan I knew abandoned it eventually

[Anonymous No.15865902]

Sadly the world is slowly accomodating these people. I swear like 1/5 of my supermarket has vegan shit, even though vegans are like 1% of the population.

[Anonymous No.15865906]

>>15865800
Howbout just thread where we hate on people who hate on omnivores? Which this already is... we don't need to be radical anymore.

[Anonymous No.15865914]

>>15865871
what the fuck?

[Anonymous No.15865915]

>>15865889
Broccoli does not have ANY amino acids, which are essential to us.

[Anonymous No.15865918]

>>15865889
I'm OP and the entire reason I made this thread was because I spent a year of my life being a vegan and my lifting strength significantly decreased and I suffered far more injuries than I did when I ate meat. Went back to meat and never felt healthier, breaking PRs all the time. I also have vegan friends that are so incredibly brainwashed that they think you just don't need protein at all now. One of them is a "certified nutritionist" too.

[Anonymous No.15865919]

>>15865837
reminds me of this classic blunder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnDV7IsRM34

[Anonymous No.15865920]

>>15865902
>I swear like 1/5 of my supermarket has vegan shit, even though vegans are like 1% of the population.
Well, yeah, most stuff there is vegan: rice, peas, corn, flour, beans, fruits, vegetables, etc. Nothing new there.

[Anonymous No.15865924]

>>15865850
You do realize PETA intentionally kills animals right?

[Anonymous No.15865930]

[Anonymous No.15865935]

>>15865920
No, I'm talking about vegan meat, vegan ice cream, vegan cheese, vegan chocolate, vegan oat/almond milk etc.

[Anonymous No.15865940]

>>15865806
OMG I THINK I KNOW THE ASIAN GUY AT THE END WHO GETS IN HIS FACE. Hes like the leader of some vegan cult. Apparently he regularly creeps on damaged anorexic underage girls. I don't think he ever gets anywhere with them because of his low test but he will regularly try to get with 15 year old girls.

[Anonymous No.15865946]

>>15865935
Ah, I see. A lot of people do believe it's healthier. Nothing we can do about the feeble-minded, unfortunately. The same people who believe in horoscope and such things.

[Anonymous No.15865950]

>>15865850
You know... I don't think this was made up.

[Anonymous No.15865960]

>>15865864
I'm glad my dad took me fishing. Now I'm more at piece with my food dying for my nutritional benefit than even him and also eating meat has made me a better person because I contribute more to society from the patience and good attidude I have as a result.

[Anonymous No.15865963]

>>15865851
Not to mention broccoli fucks up your thyroid with goitrogens and the amino acids in the brassica proteins are incomplete.

Having said that I still love broccoli, but I know it's not healthy, and definitely isn't a replacement for meat.

[Anonymous No.15865970]

>>15865856
BASED.

[Anonymous No.15865976]

MODS

[Anonymous No.15865977]

I worked with a hardcore vegan dude who was all tatted up with vegan tattoos and he must have been at it for 5 years or so by the time I met him. He was anorexic-looking; skinny and what mass there was seemed like bones. He was also really slow, both mentally and physically.

One day he gave himself an absolutely horrific hernia trying to lift a keg. It caused his ballsack to fill up with blood like a balloon. He was in the hospital for months being treated for severe anemia caused by iron deficiency. That was the last I ever saw of him, although I did hear a rumor a while back that CPS took his kids away because he wasn't feeding them properly.

[Anonymous No.15865978]

Two year difference

[Anonymous No.15865987]

>>15865800
and? they're right. if you're not providing a vegan option then you're woefully ignorant of other people.
>>15865806
they're literally walking across the street. wait 30 seconds and they'll be out of the way. typical anti-vegans, making non-issues into platforms of faux-outrage and moral grandstanding.
>>15865837
/r/thathappened
>>15865844
obvious anti-vegan deliberately making dumb arguments to sow anti-vegan sentiments. also known as astroturfing. the meat industry literally pays people to do this, and you fell for it. lol
>>15865858
yep, cats shouldn't be vegan. not sure what that has to do with human vegans though. meat eaters in China literally deep fry cats alive and eat them, I wonder which is worse.
>>15865864
yeah, maybe don't teach your kids that killing is fun. not sure what's supposed to be wrong with that.
>>15865871
composing is bad now?
>>15865879
oh wow, an "influencer" did a thing. how low is your IQ exactly?
>>15865924
not nearly as many as meat eaters do. not even close
>>15865930
and she's wrong? we exclusively eat female cows. so yes, female cows are subject to much worse treatment. it is literal misogyny.
>>15865851
the pic basically says that you can eat a healthy amount of broccoli to get your daily protein or you can overeat your calories in steak and get too much protein (you can only absorb so much, anything extra is a waste). it's obvious what the rational choice is.

[Anonymous No.15865995]

>>15865987
>we exclusively eat female cows
uhhhh where did you hear that lol

[Anonymous No.15865996]

>>15865918
Become a certified nutritionist just to fuck with your retarded friend. I think it costs like 200 bucks, maybe less, and you take a 10 hour course... maybe less. maybe and hour. Idk. Its easy as shit though.

[Anonymous No.15866002]

[Anonymous No.15866003]

I didnt used to hate on vegans beyond them being annoying. But so were douchey surfer bros. So were loud hip hop shills.
then I took anthropology classes in college. Go read "Raw and Stolen" by Richard Wrangham. It goes over the basics of what we know of early human diets and why they would cook food. The article broke the food down into raw and cooked, and with meat or without meat. Just based purely on a caloric value, any diet that included at least some cooked meat in it would have sufficient calories to make it. Raw vegetables on their own, we simply do not have the enzymes and chewing teeth to base a diet fully around. IF you cooked your non-meat diet you could juuuust barely make it in terms of calories. But even supplementing 10% of their diet with meat would guarantee they more than make it.

Meat is just too valuable calorically and nutritionally to cut it out of your diet completely

Vegans are literally starving their fucking brains

[Anonymous No.15866013]

>>15865987
>not nearly as many as meat eaters do. not even close
They kill almost all the animals they take in you dolt. They do it intentionally because they are sick in the head.

[Anonymous No.15866014]

>>15865996
I'm literally taking the classes now. Always wanted to be a personal trainer and NASM had a package deal for PT/Nutrition recently.

[Anonymous No.15866015]

fucked a vegan chick in the ass once, she said it was like vegan fucken cause the pussy is like meat.

[Anonymous No.15866016]

>>15865918
"certified nutritionist" is a bullshit made up term, it's like saying I'm a certified tootholigist.

[Anonymous No.15866025]

>>15866013
still doesn't come close to even 0.01% of the animals meat eaters kill, so...
>>15865995
uhhhh it's common knowledge. did you think your marbled ribeye was from a bull?

[Anonymous No.15866035]

>>15866025
Yes it most certainly does, kys you fucking freak of nature.

[Anonymous No.15866042]

>>15865987
>we exclusively eat female cows
What do you think happens to all the bobby calves?
They just get put into a back paddock to live out their lives like kings?

[Anonymous No.15866051]

>>15866025
>common knowledge
I guess I live on an uncommon cattle farm then... or it might just be that you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.15866054]

>>15865976
>MODS

[Anonymous No.15866056]

>>15865880
>They literally think their lives are worth the same as that of a pigs LMAO.
Maybe some retards, but the usual is "life of sentient beings is worth more than temporary taste pleasure". That's it, you have no need for meat as all essential nutrients can be found in non-animal sources. The only reason to eat animals is for the taste and texture pleasure.

[Anonymous No.15866057]

>>15865987
Can you just admit you don't give a fuck about domesticated animals and you just publicly abstain from animal products because you want to feel better about yourself?

That yoghurt from the female named cows was from a tiny dairy farm. Those cows are probably going to live to be 15+. Their names are cute too.

>>15865977
I worked with a vegan dude at a bike delivery job. He was missing teeth, tired eyes, aged skin, balding, underweight, and one time I decided to race him when we were on a similar route home. I was so embarrassed by how badly I smoked him even when I wasn't going full speed on my heavy mountain bike. Most of the guys I worked with could outpace me (I was one of the only female delivery bikers), this was horrible. He was at least a nice guy and kept his veganism to himself. I hope he went back to meat but I doubt it.

[Anonymous No.15866076]

[Anonymous No.15866087]

xD

[Anonymous No.15866096]

>>15866056
>The only reason to eat animals is for the taste and texture pleasure.
As my father used to say
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vBesOFURek&ab_channel=MrTHEOTHERGUYS

[Anonymous No.15866105]

This thread is so fucking based. This board fucking hates one another but when it comes to hating vegans we all come together as a family.

[Anonymous No.15866108]

>>15866057
Tits or gtfo roastie

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[Anonymous No.15866114]

>>15865987
VEGAN NIGGER EAT SHIT AHAH SMELLY STINKY VEGAN HAHAHA WEAK PATHETIC VEGAN BITCH BOY HAHAH

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[Anonymous No.15866121]

>>15866042
I remember hearing one lady saying that prioritize eating black animals because meat is racist.

[Anonymous No.15866125]

>>15865918
>protein
You literally have to be retarded to not get all amino acids you need from plants. Like eating plain white rice all day everyday retarded.
>but muh body building!
Most take protein shakes anyway, you can easily find vegan ones as well.

[Anonymous No.15866127]

>>15866108

[Anonymous No.15866129]

>>15865935
Oh no, we have more choices and different flavors! How horrible!!!

[Anonymous No.15866132]

>>15866127
you keep saving this shit in your hard drive
...why

[Anonymous No.15866134]

>>15866056
>you have no need for meat as all essential nutrients can be found in non-animal sources
literally a two second search proves this wrong

[Anonymous No.15866138]

>>15865935
tfw you live in the countryside and the closest place that (might) sell impossible burgers is a 1 hour drive away

[Anonymous No.15866142]

>>15866132
because he is a fag

[Anonymous No.15866143]

>>15866132
For you

[Anonymous No.15866145]

>>15866134
>b12
fortified foods, vital wheat gluten, watercress, or nutritional yeast
>creatine
vegan creatine exists
>everything else on the list
non essential

Why do you fags have to lie to push your agenda? I'm going vegan now just to spite you.

[Anonymous No.15866152]

>>15865858
Aren't tomatoes, as nightshades, toxic to most animals?

[Anonymous No.15866153]

>>15866143
oops forgot pic

[Anonymous No.15866154]

>>15866145
don't say we didn't warn you

[Anonymous No.15866169]

>>15865871
animals dont have souls

[Anonymous No.15866171]

>>15866051
>>15866035
>>15866042
you "people" are woefully ignorant. just like male chicks, the majority get killed because they serve little purpose. yes, you might get a few into the food market, but the vast majority are killed. you utter fools. use google
>>15866057
>Can you just admit you don't give a fuck about domesticated animals and you just publicly abstain from animal products because you want to feel better about yourself?
can I just "admit" to your low effort projection? no. I'm on the right side of history and morality.
>That yoghurt from the female named cows was from a tiny dairy farm. Those cows are probably going to live to be 15+. Their names are cute too.
yeah, it's real "cute" when they're forced to be pregnant year-round so that they lactate, with their offspring being taken away and sold off to industry farms.
>>15866114
great "argument". witness the top mind of the meat eaters.

[Anonymous No.15866180]

>>15866171
vegans are mentally ill

[Anonymous No.15866195]

>>15866171
I only eat my male birds. The females are too important to eat.

I plan to get my own dairy animal soon too. Debating over cattle or goats. Probably cattle since I have enough land to where I won't need to AI. Though there's nothing wrong with it, it ensures good sperm for the mother so there is less of a risk of complications from calving. Also idk if you know this but we bred a lot of maternal instinct out of animals. I couldn't get my laying birds to sit on their eggs unless I had an endless trough of mealworms in front of them. I have also heard small dairy farms will have to cover newborns in food in order to get the mother to give the calf much needed colostrum. There was even a goat dairy farmer who preferred the kids raised on the mothers milk because it made the kids larger.

Just don't buy supermarket animal products, simple as.

[Anonymous No.15866203]

>>15865850
>PETA is dumb, but making things up to make them look bad
Have you ever met a peta activist? That doesn’t sound far fetched at all; Especially when it seems PETA didn’t comment on the matter even when asked by fukkin snopes of all things, who would happily take peta’s word as gospel if they said “nope, fake and gay”.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/peta-lobster-rescue-in-nebraska-kills-captive-creatures/

[Anonymous No.15866208]

>>15865987
>we exclusively eat female cows.
Beef steers are castrated male cattle you clueless twat.

[Anonymous No.15866212]

>>15865987
>astroturfing
That's not what astroturfing means lmao

[Anonymous No.15866220]

>>15865987
Obvious troll is apparently not obvious enough for /ck/.

[Anonymous No.15866222]

>>15866171
>doubling down on retard
good day, roastie

[Anonymous No.15866231]

Being vegan is fine I guess, the kinds of people who are fags about it would just find something else to be fags about if they didn't have veganism

[Anonymous No.15866235]

>>15866208
ok so they even castrate male bovine. wow, so humane. tell me more about how humane eating meat is?
>>15866180
nope. being against murder is actually mentally healthy. thanks though
>>15866195
>just raise and murder your own animals
no thanks
>>15866212
there's a helpful website called google.com, you might have heard of it. if you want help on using it, let me know, I can show you step by step
>>15866220
>nooooo someone disagrees with me, must be a troll
>>15866222
f**k off misogynyst

[Anonymous No.15866248]

>>15865800
let's see, we got the apple, banana, juice box, crisps, satsumas, pears and jacket potatoes. You're missing the sandwich, biscuits and milk. That means 70% of the items are vegan. Seems like a pretty good haul

[Anonymous No.15866257]

>>15866235
So you're okay with people murdering animals for your plant foods, okay? You do know 50 billion honeybees died for almond pollination alone in california in one single winter. And human grade crops are the absolute worst if you aren't producing them yourself. Sure, a lot of grain and fodder is grown and livestock eat it, but they mostly eat the byproducts of ethanol and seed oil production.

And lets not forget all the animals used for the production of your crops. I hope you don't eat rice or coconuts. Oh geez, and I hope you consider the use of beasts of burden vegan, because in tropical regions where farmers are too poor for expensive gas guzzling equipment they are going to be whipping a bull and a cart.


Life feeds on death. You need to get over that. Otherwise you will live a spiritually stunted life which only leads to seeing misery and corruption everywhere.

[Anonymous No.15866266]

The only vegan food I like is almond milk

[Anonymous No.15866272]

>>15866266
I like French fries as well.

[Anonymous No.15866274]

>>15866257
>So you're okay with people murdering animals for your plant foods, okay? You do know 50 billion honeybees died for almond pollination alone in california in one single winter.
google insect central nervous system and research how it differs from mammals, then get back to me
> lets not forget all the animals used for the production of your crops. I hope you don't eat rice or coconuts. Oh geez, and I hope you consider the use of beasts of burden vegan
yes, doing a job is better than being killed by the hundreds of millions. not sure how that's supposed to be an argument.
>Life feeds on death. You need to get over that
huh? plants die too. never disputed that. we can produce all the nutrition we need without murdering sentient beings.

[Anonymous No.15866284]

is fish vegan

[Anonymous No.15866313]

>>15865800
>what about people who are vegan
They can have the apple, banana and pears, probrably the crisps and juice box too.

What, they seriously want special food in a fucking hand-out?

[Anonymous No.15866314]

>>15866274
Who said I was JUST talking about bees.
I mean, organic food requires animal shit, and rice farming and many vineyards requires ducks for pest control.

Also if an insect central nervous system is less important to you, then does that mean honey is vegan?

Lets face it, SOME people in the industrialized first world can barely scrape by on a vegan diet, but to say we don't need animals?

Idk, maybe instead of virtue signaling you should try to grow your own food. Good luck doing it veganic, it's totally possible but very challenging.

[Anonymous No.15866321]

>>15865960
>At piece

[Anonymous No.15866355]

>>15865850
>making things up
https://realfacesofanimalrights.com/peta/peta-kills-rescued-lobsters/
First hit on google

I am not even that guy and saw myself forced to post this. This abominable organisation should be dismantled and all of it's members persecutted to the full extend of the law for their many crimes against animals, not only domestic and comercial ones but also against wildlife and the enviroment.

Anyone who claims otherwise is either intentionally playing dumb or incredibly ignorant.

[Anonymous No.15866389]

>>15866274
Post your physique

[Anonymous No.15866430]

>>15866134
>from plants
Can't read or what? I said non-animal sources, not that you can get it from plant sources. So, let's debunk that very misinformed list.
>Vitamin B12
Literally no animal produces B12 by itself, it's produced by certain bacteria.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1535370217746612
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00012838
Cows and sheep usually get it from bacteira in their gut, however they need cobalt in their diets for that. It may be necessary to supplement them with cobalt in feed or even B12 injections. So why n
ot cut the middle man and get the B12 directly from bacteria?
https://www.farmhealthonline.com/disease-management/sheep-diseases/cobalt-deficiency-in-sheep/
https://www.cattletoday.com/archive/2013/November/CT3026.php
>Creatine
Only conditionally essential if you have chronic kidney disease, otherwise your body produces enough on it's own.
https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/11/5/1044
Also, creatine monohydrate is vegan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creatine#Dietary_considerations
https://www.maximuscle.com/nutrition/ingredients/creatine/How-Is-Creatine-Made/
>Carnosine
Non essential again, but you didn't even bother reading the wiki page for it, did you? It can be synthesized, but again, non essential.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnosine
>Vitamin D3
Seriously? Just get some sunlight. If you can't, D2 is fine as well, just less effective so you need higher doses. Also, vegan D3 does exist. Just search amazon or whatever for it and you'll find it.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17023693/
https://vitashine-d3.com/

[Anonymous No.15866435]

>>15865987
Not gonna read any of this.
Fuck off, redditor.

[Anonymous No.15866436]

>>15866134
>>15866430
Cont.
>DHA
No animal produces that either, it's produced by algae that fish eat and then it gets stored in thier tissue. You can convert it from ALA, so techinclally DHA and EPA are non esential, but the conver
sion rate is poor. Again, cut the middleman and get it from algae directly.
https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Omega3FattyAcids-HealthProfessional/
https://sunwarrior.com/blogs/health-hub/vegan-omega-3-why-you-should-get-dha-epa-from-algae-not-from-fish
>Heme iron
A meme, you need iron, but it can be any iron. Heme iron is not necessary if you get iron from other sources. Yes, they're absorbed differently, so what? Take the supplement if you can't get enough through plants. You can literally make the supplement in your kitchen from scrap iron, some stronger acid and a base (though not recommeded unless you really know how to measure everything right).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron#Nutrition
https://hemochromatosishelp.com/heme-iron-vs-non-heme-iron/
>Taurine
Non essential, it may be conditionally essential. And it is already syntheiszed at a mass scale for things like energy drinks. Or did you think they extract it from meat to put it into Red Bull?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurine
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12514918/
As you can see, your claims are utter bunk because you didn't even bother to learn about anything. It took me some time to source all of this, as it should.
>literally a two second search proves this wrong
And that's why you're wrong. You list non essential nutrients AND respond to me while misunderstanding that I said "non-animal" soruces, while your pic says "from plants".
And this, my dear /ck/ is why carnists like this one are plain wrong. They don't spend any time acually understanding things and just resort to anecdotes and jokes. Ironically, the only joke here is them.

[Anonymous No.15866442]

What if someone doesn't want to take an aids cocktail everyday just to feel normal?

[Anonymous No.15866458]

>>15866272
Best fried in tallow

[Anonymous No.15866461]

>>15866087
Vegetarians are rarely as obnoxious as vegans.

[Anonymous No.15866467]

>>15866458
False. Duck fat>tallow

[Anonymous No.15866474]

>>15866442
Then stop sucking your dad's cock.

[Anonymous No.15866482]

>>15866461
Because they're even dumber than carnists. Egg and dairy industry are the worst when it comes to animal wellbeing.

[Anonymous No.15866489]

>>15865987
This post is a sign of severe mental illness. Dilate and seethe you fucking freak.

[Anonymous No.15866503]

>>15866482
Hey, like.... Whats it like being so miserable and hateful? Like. How do you cope with the rest of the world going by while you scream at people for not eating like you do on 4chan of all places?

[Anonymous No.15866520]

What is the origin of vegan morality? Because it isn't shared with the beliefs of any prosperous civilization in history. Did meat eaters get so powerful they enabled maladaptive mutations to survive in their societies?

[Anonymous No.15866535]

>>15865987
Your past convinced me to go for both the regular hot dogs and the chicken rollers from the quick stop on my way home today. The hot dogs are your standard pork and beef minced up fine, but the chicken rollers are minced chicken mixed with cheese. They're pretty greasy but today I'll treat myself. Maybe I'll get a super slice of three meat pizza if they have it too, really "pig out". Haha, that one's kind of funny since the three meat has bacon and pork sausage. Don't forget the beef pepperoni of course. Sometimes I like to eat turkey pepperoni instead when I'm at home because it's lower fat. I have since frozen meatballs at home, that's all cow. I might get some swiss cheese to go with them on a sandwich tomorrow. On the other hand I might pick up some bacon and eggs too and make breakfast sandwiches instead.
I got a rifle this year and moved out west. If I can get enough practice in with it before deer season, I'm hoping to find someone I can pay to give him the gutted deer and get back the horns and ground venison. Other than field dressing I can't be bothered to prepare the meat myself, but I do like red meat once it's nice and ground up.
The antlers make cool coatracks.
I want to get someone to tan the deerskin but I don't know how expensive it is. I'd like to make a deerskin suit like one of Robin Hood's merry men.

[Anonymous No.15866557]

>>15866169
humans are animals

[Anonymous No.15866562]

>>15866520
It's in some Hindu and Buddhist sects as a more extreme form of not eating sacred out unclean animals like most religions have, but it's more common as a form of penitence, humility before a god or oneself, or asceticism/cultivation, which also often veers into starving oneself, becoming detached from life and welcoming death, various masochism to destroy the flesh and fulfill the spirit, extreme zen of doing nothing and pushing bodies to the limit or fading away and self-mummifying, etc

[Anonymous No.15866565]

>>15866520
No. Man gave so little of a fuck about animals and gave so much of a fuck about profit that it led to a toxic form of centralist capitalism (monopolizers) that disregards morality in favor of cash on hand. Further, by forming a disconnect between humans and their food sources (by putting factory farms in the middle of fucking nowhere and shipping the food to cities), it allowed these companies to further degrade and mistreat animals to the point of madness.
What you see is the recoil from this. Man is deciding they don’t want to eat animals because they know a bunch of animals are being mistreated just so man can eat. Read this
>>15865856
Essentially the only way to reverse this is to reverse the toxic capitalism and revert to a more traditional form of decentralized capitalism where the market is spread and dispersed more evenly amongst the people rather than being put into a minorities direct control.

[Anonymous No.15866584]

>>15866562
Hindus tend not to eat meat (although, your economic status may affect how strictly one abides) due to reincarnation. You could eat a chicken, but what if it’s your baby brother that died as an infant? The only animal that’s strictly off limits is the cow.
Buddhists are more of the latter form. Also, Buddhists generally believe in karma, although it’s a little different than Hindu karma. Nevertheless, one may come to the conclusion that to eat another living creature would negatively impact ones karma.

[Anonymous No.15866586]

>>15866535
This is why I can't stand militant vegans. Their all-or-nothing bullshit attitude makes people ignore what the real message should be. That factory farmed meat is shit. Vegans think eating an animal is the same as raping a child, that there is no middle ground. Thats fucked up. Eating an animal is eating an animal, and there is most certainly a middle ground.

It wouldn't take much to convince people to just source their meat from a high quality farm, how to avoid supporting shitty companies like tyson, JB, butterball, and other industries that care more about profit than welfare. They think there is no difference between a bird that lives its life outside on pasture with fresh air and a bird that lives in a shit infested cafo barn. Fuck vegans, they are literally so blinded by their ethics that they are actually destroying the thing they claim to protect.

TL;DR Dude, you can do what you want. Ultimately its your dollar. But if I were you, I'd get a chest freezer and buy a nice wholesale beef from a regenerative farm. It's better meat and you get a shittton of it. Even if you ate nothing but meat you could live off of just an entire cow for a year. Please, go seek out good small scale farmers in your local area. Don't let these vegans coerce you into getting sub par meat. You deserve better.

[Anonymous No.15866587]

>>15866535
Just tan the hide yourself you dumb bitch, stretch it on the side of your shed fur-to-wall and rub it with course salt every day

[Anonymous No.15866593]

>>15866565
Muh profit is why people want ultra cheap food fucking capitalism did this
Wouldn't it make much more sense for a capitalist to strictly control food production and makes it a high profit item rather than throwing half of it out trying to make sure it's cheap and plentiful for everyone?
Of course it would, but you're a trained marxist and ask of your other delusions follow from that, so you've become completely incapable of independent thought.
Fuckjng greedy capitalists selling me potatoes for under a dollar a pound while that dollar becomes less and less valuable with each passing month.

[Anonymous No.15866597]

>>15865837
this is a made up story copying a few real cases from Italy of tourists buying lobsters from restaurants and releasing them into the sea. In one of those stories of Costa Smeralda, the cook advised the animalists that "they would get catched again anyway".

[Anonymous No.15866609]

>>15865800
Vegan kids are statistically far more likely to be molested by their parents or harmed through diet by science illiteracy. Dangerous. The need to virtue signal and appear virtuous comes from a lack of self respect and broken homes. The rates of vegan men raised by single mothers is astonishing.

[Anonymous No.15866611]

>>15866593
I know a guy who is willing to sell me 40 lbs of potatoes for 5 bucks. Is that a good deal?

[Anonymous No.15866614]

>>15866593
Retard, I am no Marxist. I am not supporting the destruction of the individual, I am supporting the idea that the individual should hold more power.

The Marxist is the one who convinces the people to give up their means of production in order to become a “part-owner”. Sounds a lot like owning the stocks in a company that produces your food rather than producing and selling your own.

[Anonymous No.15866626]

>>15866611
There's no way you'll be able to eat 40 pounds of potatoes before they start to sprout.

[Anonymous No.15866629]

>>15866586
I eat meat for the amino acids and fat, not to jerk off about the quality, which is still better quality and safer than at any point in history. I'd willingly pay more for them to quit fucking using antibiotics and save some for remaining relatively novel so they can kill new viruses, but I don't really care because retards will never stop crying about things. I will never truly care about animals so long as animal-lover misanthropy exists, because other animals will never be as relevant as lifeforms as humans are due to their lack of ability for higher reasoning. Thus even includes monkeys who can learn to use smartphones and play touch screen number and shape memory games better than most humans or even sort I'd learn sign language and express rudimentary emotion, because that's still all they can do.

[Anonymous No.15866630]

>>15866355
>full extend of the law
>extend

[Anonymous No.15866640]

>>15866587
No, it stinks and I'm no longer in the neolithic era, I'm not going to break out the "hand axe" over a little hide, I'm going to go build stuff on the clock then pay someone else to do good modern tanning if it's cheap enough.

[Anonymous No.15866645]

b8ing on /ck/ isn't right. A lot of the users here don't use other boards so they can't recognize such obvious insincerity over the internet. It's like beating up the elderly.

[Anonymous No.15866648]

>>15865960
>at piece

What the fuck is wrong with you people? Probably foreigners.

[Anonymous No.15866660]

>>15866611
Based, got a root cellar?
Also why, does he not know about farmers markets or are they already going bad?
>>15866626
>cook them
>freeze them, best substance to freeze
>thaw as needed for side dish

[Anonymous No.15866661]

>>15865987

[Anonymous No.15866663]

>>15866629
>placing your morality scale on the scale of cognitive ability
If you can say things like this, I would assume you’re also up for either eugenics or straight-up genocide of retards. If not, you’re literally just another retarded contrarian who hasn’t thought his argument through for more than 13 seconds.
I would recommend feeding yourself to someone smarter than yourself if the latter is the case, fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.15866669]

>>15866648
We're phoneposting and swype is retarded
Most of us grew up and got jobs anon

[Anonymous No.15866680]

>>15866663
>if you x you must move goal post with me
>or else y
I'm absolutely for eugenics programs that specifically and only target delusional psycho misanthropic faggots like you.

[Anonymous No.15866694]

>>15866629
>I eat meat for the amino acids and fat
You can easily get all essential amino acids and fat from non-animal sources. What now? Soy is a complete protein for example, if you don't mix veggies together.

[Anonymous No.15866697]

>>15866680
>goal post meme

> Thus even includes monkeys who can learn to use smartphones and play touch screen number and shape memory games better than most humans or even sort I'd learn sign language and express rudimentary emotion, because that's still all they can do.

There is literally nothing dividing a monkey that can only express rudimentary emotions and memory and a human that can only express rudimentary emotions and memory.
I would support hanging you from a tree for being a nigger faster than I’d support any idea you’d ever spew from your stupid hole being implemented in society.

[Anonymous No.15866712]

>>15865987
fuck off redditor

[Anonymous No.15866715]

>>15865978
Bullshit

[Anonymous No.15866731]

>>15866694
Meat is better, more complete, and higher quality, also superior in taste and texture. Whether "good" or cheap. Also takes far less processing to become something worth eating.
Plant proteins are great and helped many people survive throughout the ages, but meat is superior in every way.
>>15866697
You don't need to reply to me in order to run through your braindead checklist of what you assume I think, you misanthropic whore. Babble to yourself in the corner, this is the thread for hating you, and I do. I have heard everything you have to say a hundred times before, but I won't bother explaining why you're wrong because you will never listen. You're emotionally driven and incapable of honesty, like all moral vegans, and you undoubtedly share their callous carelessness for human life and alternate between supporting and hating the medical establishment depending in whether they're committing your favorite atrocities against or species or actually healing.
You have no place amongst honest people and I will always hate you, and you will never learn or grow or change.

[Anonymous No.15866733]

>>15865800
>poor people don't DESERVE to be able to make their own ethical decisions

[Anonymous No.15866738]

>>15866731
>Meat is better, more complete, and higher quality, also superior in taste and texture
No way, there's tonnes of delicious vegan stuff. I'd way sooner give up meat than cheese. Aside from steak and well-cooked stews, meat doesn't really do much.

[Anonymous No.15866739]

>>15866593
Industrialized farming was a disaster in general. Norman Borlaug was the greatest terrorist ever to live. Farming enabled civilization and farming will bring it all to an end, whether it's through soy protein or bug protein.

[Anonymous No.15866745]

>>15866520
Vegans have popped up in pretty much every civilisation ever. Vegans have only ever been a significant force in Poo lands, though, and while they're pretty shit rn they used to be super powerful.

[Anonymous No.15866747]

>>15866733
Yes. Beggars can't be choosers.

[Anonymous No.15866753]

>>15866747
No. You can and should use all means available to you to get the life you want. FUCK your slave humility. If I don't want to eat cheese, I WILL ask them to make me a vegan sandwich.

[Anonymous No.15866754]

>>15866733
They can. By buying their own food.
Someone giving out food to you isn't your decision, it's theirs.

[Anonymous No.15866766]

>>15865871
The salt in the ham is going to kill anything that tries to grow there for at least a few years.

[Anonymous No.15866767]

>>15866435
>>15866712
I come from reddit. Guess what? I have contributed more to the content of this board in these last 4 months than you have in your entire /ck/ tenure. I come with fresh, innovative and cutting-edge ideas from /r/cooking. I bring recipes from parts of the world you've never heard of. I discuss vibrant diverse foods such as Ramen - have you even heard of it? And I'm not talking about freeze-dried instant noodles. I discuss Ethiopian cuisine. Ever hear of Doro Wot? No? Didn't think so.

Do not talk down to those who come here to contribute in good faith. It's not a good look. Do yourself a favor and take a step back, take a deep breath and reassess. Look inwards and find out why you automatically act hostile towards those you perceive as outsiders. That includes xenophobia, which I'm sure is one of your core "beliefs"

So thanks, but no thanks. I think I'll stay here and continue to enrich /Ck with my vibrant and diverse knowledge of the food realm.

[Anonymous No.15866768]

>>15866753
>gibs me dat for free
go eat grass, fag

[Anonymous No.15866771]

Why care about other species anyway?
Nature has made it so species compete against each other, which includes eating others.
If there were a specie more advanced than humans, they would naturally use and exploit us.
The irony is that there would be also vegans is this advanced specie.

[Anonymous No.15866772]

>>15866754
Imagine taking issue with someone trying to persuade someone else to change their decision
>>15866768
Yes.

[Anonymous No.15866773]

>>15866660
Hes a neighbor.

[Anonymous No.15866782]

>>15866772
>taking issue
See, you're writing this out as if anyone takes vegans seriously. As if we're somehow afraid that you'll change literally anyone's mind.
We're not "taking issue" with you. We're laughing at you.

[Anonymous No.15866795]

>>15866771
>Nature has made it
Nature doesn't make anything, anon. It's not an actual thinking being. Things just happen.
If I decide to not eat animals or their products, then that's natural.
>>15866782
Anon, even greggs has a vegan sausage roll. I dunno what world you're living in but if you ask people, they'll often change things for you.

[Anonymous No.15866798]

>>15866355
>https://realfacesofanimalrights.com/peta/peta-kills-rescued-lobsters/
>One Facebook page read: “PETA came to Nebraska and bought a bunch of our live lobsters and freed them into the Missouri River.
This is not a source, and even your source doesn't explicitly claim it happened
Did you even read it?
Circulating lies about PETA does not help your overall attack on the organization. Stick to verifiable stuff

[Anonymous No.15866800]

>>15866274
Habitat destruction for the purpose of plant cultivation is the leading cause of animal extinctions.

[Anonymous No.15866812]

>>15866520
>Did meat eaters get so powerful they enabled maladaptive mutations to survive in their societies?
Yes. Vegans are not the only example, but they overlap heavily with the others.

[Anonymous No.15866816]

>>15866795
>business tries to expand into new markets because it wants to make more money
>this means charities that are already doing everything they can are going to put in extra work because the hungry are picky
What's even your point here?

[Anonymous No.15866821]

>>15866795
Even if things just happen, species has decided to compete and eat each other. Why humans cannot do the same?

[Anonymous No.15866825]

>>15866798
You have to admit PETA is a pretty shite group. They did one good thing in like the 80s, the guy who did it fucking quit after he realized PETA was a bunch of hysterics who only cared about getting attention rather than actually helping animals, and the rest is just peta making bootleg pokemon games and ingrid newkirk talking about how she wants to be barbecued while she euthanizes peoples pets that her goons stole from their porch.

[Anonymous No.15866830]

>>15866731
>more complete
Can a glass be more full than full? No, complete means it has all 9 essential amino acids.
>higher quality
Higher quality in what way?
>superior in taste and texture
That's subjective.
>Whether "good" or cheap.
What? Plants are cheaper than meat almost everywhere. You really don't need a lot of amino acids, read up the measurements on the wiki.
>Also takes far less processing to become something worth eating.
Worth eating is subjective, but objectively meat needs a lot more processing. You need to impregnate an animal, raise and feed the offspring until it's ready for slaughter, then kill it, skin it, cut into pieces, package, ship, someone buys, needs to cook it somehow and eat it. With soy you plough the field, plant it, wait until it's drying up on the plant, pick it, package, ship, someone buys, soaks and cooks it. And in case of veggies you can eat them raw. Seems like a lot less processing going on.

[Anonymous No.15866834]

>>15866284
>is fish
that depends, is anyone looking?

[Anonymous No.15866836]

>>15866816
>this means charities that are already doing everything they can are going to put in extra work because the hungry are picky
Yeah? What do you think a charity is lol
"NO! Because we are mean and hate people's wishes, we WILL NOT give you a vegan option. Anyway here's a bunch of free food because we care about people's wishes."
Maybe it will be an impossibility for them, but maybe it won't. You can't be a cuck and just keep your head down. Why not ask?
>>15866821
Because our brains are complex enough and we're social enough for us to get bad feelings from killing animals or mistreating them. There's no deeper meaning to it than that. I read on wikipedia or something that religions maybe came about as a way of coping with the guilt of killing animals, like trying to say sorry for it or something.

[Anonymous No.15866839]

(1/2)We, the synthetic.

Synthetic faces. Synthetic knowledge. Synthetic asses. Synthetic meat. Synthetic lives lived on synthetic screens. Synthetic moods delivered with the swallow of a synthetic pill. Synthetic weather. Synthetic immunity. Synthetic worlds of concrete and cubicles.

Synthetic cheese. Synthetic experiences. Synthetic fish. Synthetic plants. Synthetic pets. Synthetic light. Synthetic water. Synthetic sweet. Synthetic fat to eat. Synthetic thin to be.

And now, synthetic coffee.

Feed the masses. Feed the masses.

Feed their hungry bodies with chemicals. Feed their empty souls with materialism. Feed their insecurities with injections and a surgeons scalpel. Feed their loneliness with more disconnection.

Warp reality. Nothing is as it seems. Truth is fluid. Hard truths are for the ignorant.

Hide the truth - that they are animal, too. That we are animals, all. That the natural world holds our place. That we are important and have a role to play that’s bigger and more satisfying than the narcissistic world view we’ve been taught.

Hold their eyes shut and then tell them their gnawing hunger is a failure of character.

[Anonymous No.15866841]

>SOIBOIS

[Anonymous No.15866844]

>>15866839
(2/2)
Synthetic coffee now. Flavours and colours to simulate what was. We can sit in a coffee shop, at a particle board table, on a plastic chair, in our plastic clothes, sipping our chemical slurries with pretend milk grown from almond monocrops, fertilized by trucked-in bees because the real ones are nowhere to be seen.

Sitting alone, surrounded by the indoctrinated mesmerized by their screens. They’re alone, too. Wifi the mighty god of human brains overseeing us all.

George Orwell was right.

Fight the good fight, beautiful people. It’s never been so hard to be a genuine, honest to goodness human being. The generations that will follow you, need your leadership now more than ever.

Be a real human in a time when the zoo humans are insisting they are the evolution of our species. Don’t buy it. Excavate the authentic. Find what’s real.

Stay gold, Ponyboy.

[Anonymous No.15866847]

>>15866800
Said plants being cash crops like oil palms or rubber trees. Or indeed grain, which is grown for...animals to eat.
In terms of pure square-metre ground cover, nope, plants are more efficient.

[Anonymous No.15866848]

>>15865851
also, 100 calories of broccoli is like two heads, and you'd have massive shits afterwards- I love broccoli but that's too much of it.

[Anonymous No.15866850]

>>15866430
>>15866436
No takers on this? Guess the state of /ck/ is worse than I thought.

[Anonymous No.15866858]

>>15866847
Efficient, not sustainable.

[Anonymous No.15866862]

>>15866836
>Why not ask?
Because it means you're an ungrateful faggot. You're basically spitting on their effort and saying they're not doing enough.
>b-but I don't mean it that way
That's how everyone takes it, autist.

The second you need help from total strangers just to survive is when you should start keeping your head down. Beggars should be meek. No one wants to help an arrogant asshole.

[Anonymous No.15866864]

>>15866850
>>15866442

[Anonymous No.15866867]

>>15866839
>>15866844
This was a weird read, but I like it. Where's it from?

[Anonymous No.15866869]

>>15866800
Wrong. Livestock uses way more land and water per unit of energy produced. It's common knowledge. It's cattle farms destroying the earth's surface.

[Anonymous No.15866875]

>>15866862
>Because it means you're an ungrateful faggot.
No, I don't buy that. It means you want to exercise agency over your own life. I'd do the same.
>Beggars should be meek
I will call you a cuck once more.

[Anonymous No.15866886]

>>15866875
> I'd do the same.
And then everyone would tell you to get a job if you want to be a picky faggot. Just like we're doing now. At no point in history has anyone responded positively to a beggar getting greedier.
>I will call you a cuck once more.
Why? I'm not a beggar. When I want to eat something, I get it myself instead of hoping someone's kind enough to give it to me. Hence why I get to eat whatever I want.

[Anonymous No.15866888]

>>15866867
Tara Couture.

[Anonymous No.15866892]

>this poster count
someone is really upset and o b s e s s e d with vegans
imagine basing your whole life around something so menial
rent free

[Anonymous No.15866897]

>>15866274
>just clear out the entire Amazon to feed us! Better than the alternative of raising cattle on basically barren ranchland just to be murdered!
Also vegans ignore that for most of the undeveloped world, being vegan is just not possible. You really think they can get easy access to soy burgers in the middle of Afghanistan? No, they're going to eat goats and eat goat cheese, along with whatever beans and rice and vegetables they can grow or buy from market.

Advocating for limiting meat and animal product consumption is fine. Outright veganism is fine. Pushing veganism on the world as some "ideal" is delusion.

[Anonymous No.15866898]

>>15866886
>And then [headcanon]
The ability of poor people to be able to exercise their own agency is a huge deal right now. People are talking about how conventional charity models which don't account for agency often fail because...poor people fucking hate it, and will often refuse help if it doesn't let them have their agency.
>Why?
Because you're a cuck, cuck. If you became a beggar then you'd keep your head down and stay a beggar for the rest of your life.

[Anonymous No.15866906]

>>15866897
>just clear out the entire Amazon to feed us! Better than the alternative of raising cattle on basically barren ranchland
oh the sweet ironing.
the amazon is being burned to make room for cattle ranches. because livestock, especially cattle, use the most water and land per unit of energy produced. it's been studied to death. you could not be more wrong

[Anonymous No.15866907]

>>15866897
I don't think I believe that when the vast majority of the world's vegans are Poos
It sounds like you assume the rest of the world lives in your detroit food desert

[Anonymous No.15866908]

>>15866645
makes me genuinely sad. poor turtle :/

[Anonymous No.15866909]

>>15866864
That's the dumbest argument you could use. We use technology to better our lives. In the past, deficiencies were rampant, and are common today. Milk, cheeses, even meats sometimes get supplemented (directly, the animal is supplemented always, ex. with cobalt in cows and sheep), we can do the exact same thing for other foods if you really don't want to take supplements separately. You don't need ideal amounts of everything, but it will make your life significantly better and easier. For evolution to happen, you just need to survive until puberty and make a baby, then you can die.

[Anonymous No.15866910]

>>15866898
So what if a charity offers only vegan food and a poor person complains there is no meat?

[Anonymous No.15866918]

>>15866910
Then the charity can consider providing meat or not, dingus

[Anonymous No.15866919]

>>15866888
Thanks, Anon. Much appreciated.

[Anonymous No.15866929]

>>15866731
>>15866738
>>15866830
>guy says don't reply to him
>vegans waste time replying
No, I didn't read your posts either soyfags.

[Anonymous No.15866930]

>>15866898
>The ability of poor people to be able to exercise their own agency is a huge deal right now. People are talking about how conventional charity models which don't account for agency often fail because...poor people fucking hate it, and will often refuse help if it doesn't let them have their agency.
And look at that: no one cares. Beggars being choosers isn't something anyone wants to encourage.
> If you became a beggar
Bold of you to assume this is something you can say to me and that I'll just take it seriously, as if it's remotely in the realm of possibility for someone like me, lmao.

[Anonymous No.15866933]

>>15866909
One could argue that technology has made us weak and actually has made our environment worse (aka industrialization of everything destroying our planet)
One could even argue that our overreliance on technology instead of tradition has caused us to actually live less than our ancestors. Maybe we are alive longer in years, but a person who lives a life more connected to nature and dies at 40 will LIVE more than someone who just zombied out in front of a screen and lived to 100.

Zoo animals live longer than their wild counterparts.

[Anonymous No.15866940]

>>15866800
>>15866847
>>15866858
>>15866869
Moving from current diets to a diet that excludes animal pro-ducts (table S13) (35) has transformative potential,reducing food’s land use by 3.1 (2.8 to 3.3) billion ha(a 76% reduction), including a 19% reductionin arable land; food’sGHGemissionsby6.6(5.5to7.4) billion metric tons of CO2eq (a 49% reduction);acidification by 50% (45 to 54%); eutrophication by49% (37 to 56%); and scarcity-weighted freshwaterwithdrawals by 19% (−5 to 32%) for a 2010 refer-ence year.

https://josephpoore.com/Science%20360%206392%20987%20-%20Accepted%20Manuscript.pdf

[Anonymous No.15866942]

>>15866898
are you really trying to get tough with people over begging for food?
just lmao, have some self awareness

[Anonymous No.15866949]

>>15866930
>And look at that: no one cares.
I explained that people do care. Who is this "anyone" you're referring to? I'd like to meet them.
>Bold of you to assume this is something you can say to me
Well I'm not really worried about what some cuck doesn't like me assuming about them.

[Anonymous No.15866964]

>>15866844
>Synthetic coffee now. Flavours and colours to simulate what was. We can sit in a coffee shop, at a particle board table, on a plastic chair, in our plastic clothes, sipping our chemical slurries with pretend milk grown from almond monocrops, fertilized by trucked-in bees because the real ones are nowhere to be seen.
Is this a real product now? That makes me feel uneasy. Impossible burgers are like a stepping stone to lab-grown meat, as well as all these other vegan imitation foods. There's definitely something insidious behind vegan food being focused on imitation of normal food rather than trying to invent appetizing vegetarian dishes like Indians.

[Anonymous No.15866965]

>>15866907
"poos" (proving you're a dehumanizing piece of shit yourself) live in a lush, fertile subcontinent covered in tropical rainforests. They have the largest % of arable land of any country outside the US.
And ironically, if you actually did your research you'd realize the vegans there are overwhelmingly the elites. Poors rely on eggs and cheeses for protein. I actually remember hearing a report on NPR about some school program in a mixed-income district in India making their menus vegan, and how the poor kids were actually beginning to show signs of malnutrition due to lack of protein, since they were basically relying on the animal products served at school for protein requirements.

Anyway, you didn't address my point: arid regions RELY on animals in places like Africa or the Middle East. You're a dumb cuck that can't even understand his own strawmen.

[Anonymous No.15866966]

>>15866949
If people cared then you vegan faggots getting greedy and asking for more shit wouldn't be something people take pictures of and make fun of you for.
I can only imagine you don't have any real world experience if you think asking more when you're receiving charity is something people take well.

[Anonymous No.15866981]

>>15866906
It's being cleared, overwhelmingly, for small-scale sustenance farming. NOT ranchland, at least not exclusively. Where are you getting your shitty data?
Brazil already has plenty of untapped ranchland that doesn't require slash and burn.

[Anonymous No.15866987]

>>15866933
None of that is intrinsically the fault of technology itself. The use (or rather, misuse) of technology and our predisposition to be as lazy as possible (conserve energy or whatnot) is what lead to this situation. I personally see a completely different world we could have had, if not for greed, hate and self-absorption that are ingrained in us and hard to break.

[Anonymous No.15866992]

>>15866145
>Vitamin D
>non essential
I guarantee you're pasty white as fuck and you're constantly "depressed" and feel "unmotivated"

[Anonymous No.15866997]

>>15866919
You're welcome. I'm gonna enjoy my local steak and egg dinner

[Anonymous No.15867003]

>>15866767
I find it quite funny that you feel the need to accuse us of xenophobia while you gloat about your attempts to colonize this place. Especially when you said that we need more introspection, while you maintain the double think of needing the most "diversity" while you attempt to destroy our native culture, claiming it as being bigoted and ignorant without a thought to how tolerant you are of us.

[Anonymous No.15867004]

>survival situation
>free food provided
>still posture online
undeniable evidence that veganism is a mental disorder

[Anonymous No.15867009]

>>15866964
https://www.worldcoffeeportal.com/Latest/News/2019/New-investment-brings-Atomo-s-synthetic-coffee-one

Brave new world wasn't a fiction. Appreciate your families while you still can. The institutions are coming for you.

[Anonymous No.15867012]

>>15866145
>non essential
I think the real problem with this debate is that you have a different definition of "essential" than us real human beings. You consider "essential" to mean "stuff you'll die from not having within a short period", while we consider it to mean "stuff you need to live a healthy life filled with energy and have biceps bigger than your wrists".

[Anonymous No.15867014]

>>15866992
Probably said it because you can get it from being in the sun. It's conditionally essential if you don't get enough sunlight.

[Anonymous No.15867020]

>>15866002
reminds me of that wojak hitting his gf with a nintendo switch with a mario outfit

[Anonymous No.15867022]

>>15866987
It's not just hard to break, it's impossible. We are all greedy. I don't need to be on this computer typing to you. Most people don't have a purpose anymore and will cling to anything. I found a purpose and I am passionate about it, and it doesn't involve changing others. I know our species is fucked.

[Anonymous No.15867028]

>>15867012
And you can get all of that from non-animal sources. You just don't want to spend days reading papers and learning about it. That's fine, just don't speak against it if you don't know what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.15867033]

>>15865864
do you guys really go to reddit just to get mad?

[Anonymous No.15867036]

>>15867028
Post a picture of your biceps right now.

[Anonymous No.15867046]

>>15867028
If you have to take pills and supplements to get how much you actually need reasonably then clearly a vegan diet isn't healthy on its own.

[Anonymous No.15867049]

>>15865902
just dont buy it retard

[Anonymous No.15867052]

>>15867022
Agreed, we're fucked. But I'll try to build something for myself and ignore others as much as I can. As you said, nothing else to do anyways.

[Anonymous No.15867053]

>>15865918
how do you explain vegan athlets?

[Anonymous No.15867063]

>>15866461
most vegetarian are vegetarian because health issues like not being able to digest meat propperly so yeah

[Anonymous No.15867070]

>>15867046
Never said a vegan diet on it's own is healthy. You need stuff you can't get directly from plants, but growing bacteria is super easy (especially on large scales). Ever tried making yogurt? Also, as I said, a lot of our food is supplemented as it is. White bread (look up history of wonder bread), milk is supplementd with calcium (minimum), salt is iodized (unless you're in the USA for whatever reason), etc. Besides, lots of people already take supplements, the supplement industy is absolutely huge and vegans aren't the only ones buying them.