Are vegetables not actually good for you?

[Anonymous No.16091562]

Particularly leafy greens and not tubers/bulbs/things that are technically fruit.

[Anonymous No.16091576]

they apparently have some micros in them that are good for you or some shit
but thats probably just vegan propaganda to stop you eating the real vitamin pill, eggs

[Anonymous No.16091602]

Vegetables, particularly dark green leafy vegetables, are packed full of compounds which cause massive inflammation. Humans have evolved to cope with this because 99% of the time throughout history the best you could do to survive is stuff leaves down your throat, but optimally a human being should exist on red meat, eggs, and grains (not rice). Vegetables should only be consumed in a survival situation. Fruit should be treated like candy, ideally you avoid it altogether but if you must you should limit your intake as much as possible.

[Anonymous No.16091646]

>>16091602
>>16091576
>my favorite YouTuber is right and all science is wrong
Okay retards

[Anonymous No.16091663]

Idk I like vegetables. I cook my high oxalate vegetables like spinach and chard though.

[Anonymous No.16091669]

>>16091646
Hey dude, prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.16091670]

>>16091646

[Anonymous No.16091676]

>>16091562
Are you actually retarded

[Anonymous No.16091688]

>>16091669
I agree that animal products are important. I actually believe leafy greens are healthier than grains though. Maybe ancient grains like einkorn and REAL wild rice (not at all the same as its cultivated namesake, you also cannot buy real wild rice at the supermarket) might be arguably healthier than cultivated vegetation, but I believe vegetables have a place in the human diet. I try to grow as much as I can, and leafy greens are always the first plant food I can eat during the growing season.

[Anonymous No.16091692]

>>16091602
>Vegetables, particularly dark green leafy vegetables, are packed full of compounds which cause massive inflammation.

Is inflammation always bad though? If you have a disorder that's triggered by inflammation sure but inflammation is also part of a good immune response.

[Anonymous No.16091699]

>>16091562
just eat a healthy balanced diet and don't eat too many grains because they're not that necessary

[Anonymous No.16091700]

>>16091688
You are literally killing yourself

[Anonymous No.16091710]

>>16091699

> just eat a healthy balanced diet and don't eat too many grains because they're not that necessary

I'd argue grains are more nutritious than leafy green vegetables as long as you control your carb intake to reasonable levels. In terms of protein and vitamin levels.

[Anonymous No.16091722]

>>16091562

Vegetables are a good fiber source. But animal organs, eggs, and fish are a superior source of nutrients

[Anonymous No.16091725]

>>16091692
>Is inflammation always bad though?
yes, its always bad. your immune system responding to something negative with inflammation doesnt mean inflammation itself is good. thats like saying a strong base is good because it neutralises a strong acid

[Anonymous No.16092043]

>>16091722
Fiber has never been proven to be an important element of the human diet

[Anonymous No.16092061]

>>16092043
What if you poo?

[Anonymous No.16092171]

>>16091562
they are, people who lived through the depression picked shit out of the lawn to survive and they all lived to be 100

[Anonymous No.16092227]

>>16091602
>optimally a human being should exist on red meat, eggs, and grains (not rice)
>optimally a human should exist on 2/3 stuff that wasnt available for most of human history

[Anonymous No.16092242]

>>16092227
Hol up are you saying red meat and eggs wasn't available for most of human history?

[Anonymous No.16092245]

>vegetables are secretly bad for you!
will 4chan contrarianism ever end?

[Anonymous No.16092261]

>>16092245
no and it's getting worse, I feel. they straight up lie to themselves at this point.

[Anonymous No.16092275]

>>16092242
Eggs and grains were not readily available for most of human history, no

[Anonymous No.16092289]

>>16092245

> Blindly appeals to authority

[Anonymous No.16092319]

>>16092261
>they straight up lie to themselves at this point.
Welcome to the post-truth era.

[Anonymous No.16092334]

>>16092227

> Optimally a human should exist on 2/3 stuff that wasnt available for most of human history

Why should I eat like a nigger from half a million years ago instead of eating like my more closely related pastoralist ancestors? Paleofags are funny.

[Anonymous No.16092375]

>>16092275
You really think hunter gatherers wouldnt come across bird nests on the regular? I come across bird nests and eggs all the time. Was it available year round? Maybe not, but it was available. And imagine coming across an ostrich nest. And if you get autistic about "readily" available .... NO FOOD WAS READILY AVAILIBLE FOR MOST OF HUMAN HISTORY. You had to work for it. You goof

[Anonymous No.16092379]

>>16092375
weak, 1/10

[Anonymous No.16092407]

Full of oxalates and goitrogens not to mention all the poison that gets sprayed on them from daddy Monsanto

[Anonymous No.16092996]

>>16092227
And fruit. We actually have frugivore teeth so fruit is one of the main things we need to eat

[Anonymous No.16093008]

>>16091562
Things like kale are basically yard debris.

[Anonymous No.16093014]

>>16091646
>science

[Anonymous No.16093028]

>>16092171
Yes, next time you do yard work just eat all the stuff you would normally throw away it’s good for you

[Anonymous No.16093030]

>>16093014
>Science bad
Then throw that iPhone in the trash and stop using the internet.

[Anonymous No.16093033]

>>16093030
>>Science bad
>Then throw that iPhone in the trash and stop using the internet.

[Anonymous No.16093045]

>>16093028
People used to eat dandelions and weeds in salads all the time. You’d pull it out of the ground, remove the roots, soak it and make sure there is no remaining dirt. Now everything is heavily fertilized so you have to be careful but this isn’t some foreign concept, you can probably still find grandmas and great-grandmas who remember doing it (especially in the south)

[Anonymous No.16093062]

>>16091562
What a shit troll thread.

[Anonymous No.16093067]

>>16093045
Dandelion greens are edible BEFORE the dandelions start to grow.
Most plant foods are toxic and our ancestors used specific preparation techniques to extract what little nutrients they could from various plants when needed.
When corn was introduced to Europe there was an epidemic of pellagra. Europeans didn’t know how to properly prepare the corn flour the way American Indians did(a process called nixtimalization) so they were getting sick and dying from a heavy corn diet.
Plant cultists are free to eat what they want, but don’t pretend like you could just walk out into the woods and eat everything you see without at least shutting your pants for the next 12 hours. You’ll be lucky to not kill your liver in the process.

[Anonymous No.16093071]

>>16093030
Blindly trusting scientists cause "they're smart" is the issue

[Anonymous No.16093073]

>What a shit troll thread

[Anonymous No.16093103]

>>16093071
I agree that people need to look into shit before they accept it but the other side of that coin is the world being overrun with dumbasses who think they're special because they use their Chinese phones with 4g data to complain about how globalization and 5g are going to be the end of the world.