/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.16282036]

which fucking part of a burger is junk food?
is the bread, the meat, the cheese, or the vegetables?
which btw are delicious when combined

[Anonymous No.16282043]

>>16282036
American cheese and pickles

[Anonymous No.16282044]

Fast food burgers I guess

[Anonymous No.16282051]

>>16282036
the fries

[Anonymous No.16282058]

>>16282036
Very low IQ thread. A thread died for this.

[Anonymous No.16282059]

>>16282058
A McChicken thread which makes it wven worse

[Anonymous No.16282062]

>>16282036
Cheese and high fat beef. Not to mention the high carb sugar bun

[Anonymous No.16282064]

>>16282059
But I love Mchicken-tan!

[Anonymous No.16282072]

>>16282062
>>16282036
The only bad thing about it are the carbs

[Anonymous No.16282083]

The fat = bad meme is very stubborn. Despite being greasy, a burger is essentially meat on bread with some toppings... not really junk food. Just stay away from big chain restaurants, because their food is laced with chemicals.

[Anonymous No.16282273]

>>16282036
Individually they are all healthy. But combined they are junk food.

[Anonymous No.16282277]

if you dont eat the bread part of a hamburger it's a pretty good meal

[Anonymous No.16282280]

>>16282036
the bread.

[Anonymous No.16282282]

>>16282273
you mean like immigrants?

[Anonymous No.16282434]

>>16282072
>>16282277
>>16282280

[Anonymous No.16283581]

>>16282036
the bread and amount of fat in the meat
the more fat = the more juicy and flavory

People think the best is 80% meat 20% fat

[Anonymous No.16283684]

>>16282434
Care to explain how the sugar-filled, ultra-processed, bleached white bread bun is in any way healthy for you, then?

[Anonymous No.16283691]

>>16283684

its enriched flour with niacin bro

[Anonymous No.16284739]

>>16282036
The fat and salt content - that they're a very calorically dense food.

[Anonymous No.16284975]

>>16283684
Define healthy

[Anonymous No.16284998]

>>16283684
It's a healthy alternative to not eating at all and starving to death.

[Anonymous No.16285008]

>>16282036
The nutella

[Anonymous No.16285018]

>>16284739
Ok chud

[Anonymous No.16285157]

>>16282036
Firstly it would be the processing that it went through. This is irrespective of the ingredients. The bun, for example, is quick risen using a vegetable oil to speed up the process. Parts of the wheat are extracted with some kind of process but then re-added to help the rising. Sugar is also added to the bun and to the sauce.

The sauce contains more vegetable oil and also more preservatives. The preservatives are often derived from natural sources, but the process is the same way as various drugs are derived from natural sources - some kind of chemical/industrial process. They are often exposed to high heat, dried with industrial driers, etc. So their structural integrity is different to when they are part of the natural source they were derived from.

The meat is usually at most 86% actual meat, the rest is fat that is high in omega 6, saturated fat, whatever. There is also a lot of salt added. Often your entire day's intake.

I am only speculating about all of these things. I once ate only burgers for a year and it definitely wasn't healthy. This may have been due to a lack of other vitamins and minerals, who knows.

[Anonymous No.16285173]

>>16285018
F

[Anonymous No.16285195]

>>16285157
I worked for a place that was trying to spread out and franchise. they did their own burgers, got the buns from the bakery next door to HQ (and eventually licensed out the recipe), used good cheese. $12 burgers, but they were good... anyway, because trained staff were spread thin trying to open two new restaurants every two months, I wound up working 16h days, 6 days a week, so I ate burgers for two meals, six days a week, for 6 months, and lost 30 lbs.
I expect that no part of this was healthy aside from all the cardio I was doing, but hey, I had a six pack for 6 months of my life.

[Anonymous No.16285705]

>>16285195
Yeah when I was eating nothing but burgers for a year, I looked perfectly fine. I was lifting weights and looked very fit and so on. It didn't affect any of that, but I noticed that I started to get light headed and started getting tired easily and very hungry easily etc.

[Anonymous No.16286080]

>>16282064
>"sock-fucking weebs"
I mean that anon is right, a lot of that board's anons dream of climaxing over stockings of their favorite animu grills. Pic possibly related.

[Anonymous No.16286188]

>>16282083
Everything is chemicals son.

[Anonymous No.16286227]

>eating with your hands

That's the junk part.

[Anonymous No.16286233]

>>16282036
The bread, the salt, the saturated fat.

[Anonymous No.16287767]

>>16282036
Cheese, meat and white bread

[Anonymous No.16287871]

>>16282036
mayo and cheese

[Anonymous No.16287895]

>>16282036
The McDonalds and Burger King part you fool.

[Anonymous No.16287899]

>>16282036
it's delicious and delicious=bad for you to negative nancy nanny staters. if it tastes like rock slime and mulch then it's good for you because apparently our taste buds are 100% counterintuitive and we all are gross fat inactive slobs that can't control themselves like the said negative nancys that always browbeat about health food

[Anonymous No.16287901]

>>16285705
>but I noticed that I started to get light headed and started getting tired easily
Reduced cardiac output (clogged arteries)

[Anonymous No.16287916]

>>16287871
I order mine with aioli and frommage.

[Anonymous No.16287920]

>>16282036
low quality red meat cooked in grease is supposed to be bad for your health

increases the risk of heart problems

[Anonymous No.16287923]

>>16282051
and soda.

[Anonymous No.16287937]

>>16282282
kek

[Anonymous No.16287944]

>>16282036
White bread is simple cards
Fast food burgers use low quality patties and processed cheese and their sauces are full of sodium and corn syrup.

[Anonymous No.16287946]

>>16283684
It isn't, but neither is chugging down butter and bacon like a lardo.

[Anonymous No.16287983]

>>16286080
fuck you, /a/ is the best board in 4channel. It just leaves you wondering how does /a/ continue to be the best board. Because we keep a higher standard.

[Anonymous No.16287999]

The bread has no fiber, it's all salt and sugar and hasn't leavened properly.

The tomatoes and lettuce are grown on water, out of season, with barely any taste and even less nutrients. They're a token vegetable drowned in pesticides.

The meat is 90% soy, genetically engineered for growth, transport and profit maxing, not for taste and nutrition.

Drown this in sugar, salt, vinegar and msg "sauce" to get something out of it.

The "cheese" is even worse.

Eat every ingredient separately. You'll see how bad they are.

Make your own burger from scratch with heirloom tomatoes, local cheese and your own sauce and bread.

Grind your own meat for your burgers. You want shoulders or belly cut.

Then make this thread again. I dare you.

[Anonymous No.16288142]

>>16287999
>Remember to double-space your work.

[Anonymous No.16288156]

>>16287999
>pay 300% more for ingredients and 1000% more effort in labor and you'll have potentially a better meal, likely a worse meal since you dont have the experience of a chef executing a recipe

[Anonymous No.16288200]

>>16288156
It's a burger, m8. Rob Rainford can make a good burger (I can actually attest to that. He beat me graciously, but firmly - but gave us a good plug in the Star), but the Ramsays of the world are overthinking it or overdoing it.

[Anonymous No.16288633]

>>16287999
>Make your own burger from scratch with heirloom tomatoes
lol this fag with his meme fruit

[Anonymous No.16289035]

>>16288633
Devil's advocate: They're better with healthy, tough beef and ripe-picked tomatoes (of really any variety but mealy, super-inbred beefsteaks)

[Anonymous No.16289132]

A burger is a fine dish. A burger you get from fast food joints is a different story though, since it goes with tons of additives and preservatives, not to mention the low quality of meat.

Also, why do people call the yellow vomit cheese? It has nothing to do with cheese.

[Anonymous No.16289140]

>>16289132
yellow vomit improves the texture of a burger steak

[Anonymous No.16289163]

>>16289140
I'm sure real cheese would accomplish it even better.

[Anonymous No.16289167]

>>16289163
nah

[Anonymous No.16289378]

>>16285705
Thing is a burger has carbs and high fat and you actually feel full after eating. If your running round a kitchen or a building site it’s easy to burn off the extra calories.

Can’t say much good about sugar though.

[Anonymous No.16289459]

>>16289163
only with mustard, onion, and salt to cover the additives missing from the yellow casein latex.

[Anonymous No.16289499]

>>16282036
Fastfood joint Burger ingredients:

Regular Bun

Enriched wheat flour, water, sugar, yeast, vegetable oil (canola and/or soy), vegetable proteins (pea, potato, faba bean), sunflower oil, corn dextrose, corn maltodextrin, corn starch, salt, may contain and or all of the following in varying proportions: wheat gluten, dough conditioners (monoglycerides, datem, ascorbic acid, enzymes), vinegar. Toasted in the same toaster that also prepares other buns containing butter and egg. MAY CONTAIN MILK AND EGG.
CONTAINS: WHEAT.

MAY CONTAIN: SESAME SEEDS.
Beef Patty

100% pure beef

Ketchup

Tomato paste, Sugar / Glucose Fructose, White Vinegar, Water, Salt, Spices.

Pickle Slices

Cucumbers, water, distilled vinegar, salt, calcium chloride, potassium sorbate, potassium aluminum sulphate, natural flavours (plant source), polysorbate 80, extractives of tumeric (colour)

Onions (dehydrated)

100% onions

mustard

Water, vinegar, mustard seed, salt, turmeric, natural flavour (plant source), spice
CONTAINS: MUSTARD.

Grill Seasoning

Salt, spice (pepper), sunflower oil (used as a processing aid)

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>they're using the cheapest of the cheap shit they can find. substitutes and conditioners, lots of sugar and plant oils.
Damn I am pretty sure if you make all those things yourself, and buy the veggies and beef. A burger isn't that unhealthy.

[Anonymous No.16289522]

>>16289499
That was the canadian one.. Here's the US one
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Regular Bun

Ingredients: Enriched Flour (Wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour, Niacin, Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Water, Sugar, Yeast, Soybean Oil, Contains 2% or Less: Salt, Wheat Gluten, Potato Flour, May Contain One or More Dough Conditioners (DATEM, Ascorbic Acid, Mono and Diglycerides, Enzymes), Vinegar.
Contains: Wheat.

100% Beef Patty

Ingredients: 100% Pure USDA Inspected Beef; No Fillers, No Extenders.

Prepared With Grill Seasoning (Salt, Black Pepper).
Ketchup

Ingredients: Tomato Concentrate from Red Ripe Tomatoes, Distilled Vinegar, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Corn Syrup, Water, Salt, Natural Flavors.

Pickle Slices

Ingredients: Cucumbers, Water, Distilled Vinegar, Salt, Calcium Chloride, Alum, Potassium Sorbate (Preservative), Natural Flavors, Polysorbate 80, Extractives of Turmeric (Color).

Onions

Ingredients: Onions.

Mustard

Ingredients: Distilled Vinegar, Water, Mustard Seed, Salt, Turmeric, Paprika, Spice Extractive.

[Anonymous No.16289593]

>>16282036
Probably because its calorie dense. Typical burger is like 500 calories and the average adult male is supposed to only eat 2500 calories a day.

[Anonymous No.16289611]

>>16282036
the buns

[Anonymous No.16289965]

>>16289132
>>16289163
Real American cheese is just a blend of cheddar and colby with sodium citrate to help it melt without breaking, it's perfectly fine on a burger. Obviously you're not getting real American cheese from a fast food place but that should go without saying.

[Anonymous No.16291237]

>>16287983
The day they banned rei clones was the day /a/ died

[Anonymous No.16291248]

https://youtu.be/8FqpqQgbZYM?t=90

[Anonymous No.16291738]

>>16289163
Regular cheese is nice on a burger but It really doesn't melt the same way as the processed american cheese, which is used for the way it melts.

[Anonymous No.16291835]

>>16287901
Yeah probably :/ It was worth it anyway.

[Anonymous No.16291881]

[Anonymous No.16291919]

>>16291237
>>16287983
>>16291237
they banned sakurafish and cannot be forgiven

[Anonymous No.16292630]

The meat is generally cooked in an unhealthy way by frying with oil. Also burger patties contain a lot of fat. But really the extras make it bad. The heaps of cheese, the bacon etc

[Anonymous No.16292663]

>>16282036
The quality of said items. You can make a bloody premium burger with ok meat and produce. But that's not what fast food is about, that's time, convinience and price.

[Anonymous No.16292774]

>>16286080
If you're going to insult the weeb master race at least get it right, we have onaholes of our waifus imagine using a sock like a peasant

[Anonymous No.16292907]

It's the fat

[Anonymous No.16292951]

>>16282036
The problem is not the burger it's the people who abuse it and put ton of shit in it aswell for what you eat with

[Anonymous No.16292968]

americans enjoys going to the movies in their parents car. Can't really invite Mary to dinner so they settle for burgers. No wonder they never get laid.

[Anonymous No.16293246]

>>16287946
proof? all the science shows higher fat diets reverse diabetes and obesity

[Anonymous No.16293353]

>>16293246
Every single science!

If you do a high protein, low carb diet balanced out with oils and fats, you're obviously avoiding the problems associated with overdoing the carbs, but killing yourself with an excessive caloric intake while jamming your kidneys with protein you're not making use of can present its own problems, especially if you already have an underlying issue with your heart or kidneys.

You can lose weight on a ketogenic diet, and it is easier to do, usually with quicker results than just eating a bit less and working out more, but as a constant, long term diet (once it outlives its usefulness to your goals), it's unnecessary and has the potential to do more harm than good, especially if you overdo it... if you add high amounts of carbs into this diet (such as by, say, eating cheeseburgers every day) at a caloric surplus, it will eventually wreak havoc on your body, and your body will let you know by having parts of your digestive and/or endocrine systems go haywire temporarily, slow down permanently, or just fail completely.

[Anonymous No.16293360]

You can eat healthy burgers no question, but fast food burgers are cooked in loads of fat, the bread is full of sugar and so is probably the sauce as well. That's why it's junk food.

[Anonymous No.16293369]

>>16293353
Not him but I'm unsure why you're so combative. Cancer cells have a shit ton of insulin receptors. Do you know why anon?

[Anonymous No.16293545]

>>16293369
Other than the first sentence, that was just information from both sides of the argument.

If memory serves, a lot of cancer cells, especially ones that have more stem-cell tendencies, use insulin as a growth hormone, but it's been a while since I've had to do anything cancer related aside from "Don't overdo it on the red meat, you'll shit cancer! Go swim a few laps."

[Anonymous No.16293551]

>>16287983
based yotsubaposter posting moot's favourite loli

[Anonymous No.16293561]

>>16282282
Fucking kek.

[Anonymous No.16293577]

>>16282036
Probably that ‘American tier ‘cheese’.

[Anonymous No.16293618]

>>16285157
>Firstly
>no comma
Stopped reading there.

[Anonymous No.16293620]

>>16286227
So you just suck everything with your mouth like the gigantic faggot you are?

[Anonymous No.16293771]

>>16291881

who was phone?

[Anonymous No.16293977]

>>16292968

what the fuck are you saying

[Anonymous No.16293996]

Bread, cheese, processed meat. The vegies are small compared to the carbohydrates

[Anonymous No.16293999]

>>16282062
Fat is good for you.

[Anonymous No.16294003]

>>16282036
>Processed white bread that is nearly just sugar
>A single leaf lettuce (also not necessary because you can eat a salad on the side so I don't even know why you bring this shit up)
>red meat that humans are simply not designed to eat too often
>Processed cheese
>Sodium
>Too many calories per serving
>Not only is there white bread, but there's two slices worth

It can be fine depending on how big you are and how big the burger is and what you eat with it (I know a place that makes only 'slider' burgers), but you're retarded if you think all those calories are unhealthy.

[Anonymous No.16294014]

>>16294003
>unhealthy
healthy*
and most of it, again, is from highly processed food with little true nutritional value.

Then there's the low-nutrition condiments, the tiny little cucumber things (pickles, but I want to be honest and say, yes they are tiny little fucking slices of cucumber) that are mostly just sodium...

[Anonymous No.16294026]

>>16293996
>processed meat
This just some stupid shit you picked up from some vegans and/or the news media at some point. If you think the "processing" of meat is actually that bad for it. Its not even that... They're not those weird little slices of meat you get at the store that must be highly processed. Its just beef with too much salt. Grinding meat doesn't do anything to its nutritional value. I'm so sick of this brand of stupidity.

[Anonymous No.16294066]

>>16293353
i shouldve said the majority of the science cause some studies do show the reverse or an equivalence but keto is not a high protein diet thats a myth

[Anonymous No.16294127]

>all things in moderation
>control yourself and don't overeat
why is simply eating a variety of limited amounts not the only diet advice given to people who aren't suffering from some specific affliction?
is it the money?

[Anonymous No.16294486]

>>16294127
that is the diet advice given by the medical establishment

[Anonymous No.16294642]

>>16282036
Where I'm from we call these "crackas"

[Anonymous No.16294660]

>>16293977
Mary's a whore, and also the life of the party.

[Anonymous No.16294719]

>>16294066
It's not supposed to involve a tripling of protein intake, but tell that to all the gym newbs... "Man, this keto thing's got me feeling like ass breh! I've been doing it for like a month, and I'm just a walking turd sandwich!" "Unseasoned chicken breast and leafy greens for every meal, with a bunch of black coffee? Don't do that!" Increase your protein intake according to the damage you plan on doing to your muscles. Eat like a human being at least once a month. Take a day off to rest at least twice a month. Don't base your existence on getting lean and shredded unless you plan on using your physique to live the rest of your life in half the time - it's a long term goal, and chronically or permanently injuring yourself to get there faster (sacrificing health for fitness) is rarely worth it. Kind of like sprinting your way to being a fat shit to be youtube famous and leak white kittens out of your cavernous, couch-like ass is rarely worth it.

[Anonymous No.16294725]

>>16282051
>>16287923
this, it’s unfair that the burger gets the blame when these are the ones that deserve

[Anonymous No.16294767]

>>16282036
The patty is 20% beef fat, and the cheese is loaded with fat. Also a ton of salt plus a high carb bun.

[Anonymous No.16294788]

It's people who don't know anything about nutrition saying this

[Anonymous No.16294814]

Burgers are healthy as long as the fats aren't toxic.

[Anonymous No.16295065]

>>16282036
Bread
>too many carbs for increasingly sedentary lifestyles
Condiments
>high fructose corn syrup and similar garbage
Pickles
>they are just gross
Beef
>while there is nothing wrong with beef itself, fast food burger beef is full of saturated fats meant to make it last longer, which are generally the fats you do not want unless you are a powerlifter.

[Anonymous No.16295074]

The biggest problem is people rarely ever eat burgers by themselves. If you eat one burger by itself it's fine. It's the sides and soda that comes with it.

Plus usually most places use white bread which is loaded with sugar. Like eat a hamburger bun by itself, it taste like light cake.