/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.16397372]

What's the deal with fine dining? Is it a scam? How can you get an approximate fine dining experience when cooking for yourself?

[Anonymous No.16397504]

>>16397372
>Is it a scam
A person with an average income shouldn't wagecuck for a week to get enough disposable money left over to have an experience like pic related. Even once to see 'what you're missing' is being fooled. But it's not like there's a bunch of mexicans in the back chopping up random ingredients and laughing at what white people will eat, it's not a literal scam.
>How can you get an approximate fine dining experience when cooking for yourself?
Pretentious ingredients and plating can approximate it. But not for yourself, if you're doing the work it's never fine dining.

[Anonymous No.16397535]

>>16397372
It's not a scam. Its just not what everyone enjoys. Depends what you like to spend your money on and how you can justify it compared to other spending.

Realistically you won't get something similar at home. Even if you have the time, skill, equipment and ingredients to produce food of that standard, part of the enjoyment is having someone serve it to you and the environment in which you are eating.

It doesn't have to be terribly expensive. You can go to a 3 star Michelin restaurant for less than £200 for a tasting menu and probably around £100 for a 1 star place.

[Anonymous No.16397867]

You can't. Spending 2 days pepping & cooking yourself a multiple-course meal, then cleaning up isn't a good experience.

Fine dining isn't just about the food, there's a whole bunch of work that goes into every aspect of your visit to a restaurant.

[Anonymous No.16397897]

>>16397504
white people white people white people white people

[Anonymous No.16397928]

In my opinion all food is like what we see during blind taste tests of wine. It gets to a certain point where it doesn't taste any better despite costing 10x more. Fine dining is just an experience, it doesn't taste better than a regular good restaurant.

[Anonymous No.16397974]

>>16397535
>>16397867
Rich people will do anything to justify their idiotic lifestyle

[Anonymous No.16397980]

>>16397928
Maybe. In a taster menu there will be stronger and weaker dishes.

But there are certain dishes that I still remember vividly that stand out beyond anything I've ever eaten. Tomato consommé and foie gras at Ramsays, Tafferty tart at Hestons, custard tart at The Berkeley. Regular restaurants aren't likely to get anywhere near the quality of those dishes.

[Anonymous No.16398018]

>>16397372
It depends on where and what kind of restaurant. Personally I don't like the hydrogen science cooking, it is was too static for me.
There are fine dining places where people use more traditional cooking and where you don't feel like an idiot or like a sore thumb in a crowd. It is great to do every once in a while but don't go there if you're on a budget, you want some wine, maybe a gin tonic at the start and just relax a little without being stressed about prices.

[Anonymous No.16398062]

>>16397372

Not a scam. Fine dining is great and I don't think you're going to get the same thing at home at all and quite frankly shouldn't try. As others have said it is an experience and that's through the whole thing (service, presentation, etc.).

[Anonymous No.16398099]

>>16397974
What's nice about being rich is you don't need to justify it, you can just do it

[Anonymous No.16398122]

>>16397372
>What's the deal with fine dining? Is it a scam?
It really depends on what kind of fine dining you're talking about. If you're served something like in OP pic, it is absolutely a scam and you're paying heavily inflated prices on ingredients that already have heavily inflated costs for the sake of shitty food "art" and also to support some pretentious chef's food boner. Additionally, if you're being massively overcharged for more traditional or simpler fare, like that Salt Bae bullshit, it's also a scam.

There is plenty of fine dining restaurants that are not scams though; anywhere that serves high quality food at a reasonable price without all the pretense.

Unrelated, new captcha is insanely shitty wtf!?

[Anonymous No.16398126]

>>16397372
If by 'fine dining' you just mean a place that makes super high end food with expensive ingredients prepared by amazing Chefs, no, it's not a scam.

Now this webm: >>16398018
This kind of shit is a scam. If I wanted dinner and a show I'd go to fucking Medieval Times. Spend the money to get good food, but the minute these kind of 'gimmicks' are involved, you're just getting ripped off because you have more money than sense. I don't care what the price point is, the minute the 'appeal' of a restaurant includes anything other than how good the food is and the service is, it's wrong. That goes for any price point, desu.

Though, this anon >>16398099 is also right. At a certain point, people just have 'fuck you' money. Whereas a middle class person is getting 'ripped off' at a particular price point, for Jeff Bezos it's like ordering off the dollar menu. They'd go to a restaurant where the chef spits in your face if it was 10,000 dollars a plate just for the flex.

[Anonymous No.16398129]

>>16398122
>Restaurant consistently ranked in the best 50 in the world is a scam.

Just because you can't afford it doesn't mean it's a scam.

[Anonymous No.16398143]

>>16398129
It is a scam, and you're a gullible idiot apparently.

[Anonymous No.16398147]

>>16398129
You tell me you don't feel like an idiot when you get an apple tasting balloon floating in front of your face and you have to eat it without your hands and 75,- just for that one balloon (excluding the rest of the diner).

[Anonymous No.16398148]

>>16398143
I'm guessing you've not eaten at any top restaurants.

Keep saving and maybe one day you can afford it. Then maybe your opinion will be a bit more valid.

[Anonymous No.16398157]

>>16398148
This is an anonymous board, and I could tell you how much money I make but it would be pointless, so instead I'll point out the fact that the affordability of anything for any individual has no ramifications on whether or not that thing is a scam.

Keep being a retarded person, nobody believes you're rich and nobody would care about your opinion even if you were.

[Anonymous No.16398164]

>>16398129
>>16398148

Imagine defending this stupid shit just to pretend to have money on an anonymous Mongolian yak breeding forum. I bet you also like modern art, too.

[Anonymous No.16398180]

>>16397372
>Is it a scam?
Not everything is a scam or a conspiracy.
Whether or not something is “worth” it is totally dependent on the customer.
Pic is a place I went to where dinner for 2 plus alcohols that accompanied each course was about ~$600 after tax and “included gratuity”.
>inb4 consoomer
Expense account. Fuck spending my own money on something like that. I don’t make near enough to be one of those people for whom it’s “worth it”.

[Anonymous No.16398183]

>>16398180
Forgot pic like a retard

[Anonymous No.16398188]

>>16398183
The courses were entirely chef’s choice and different every night.
As such, you get to keep the scribble-menu.
This was what I had that night. It was 2015 I think.