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tl;dr: Are there keto-friendly bread alternatives such as almond flour based breads, or is that a meme? Is it possible to make keto pizza? My impression, having followed a "strict" keto diet, is that this seems like total bullshit, but a lot of articles online (mostly written by and for dumb women I assume) showcase all of this crazy shit like "keto cinnamon rolls" and "keto pizza," and honestly the latter gets me pretty hyped.

I've been following a fairly strict keto diet for a while because it makes me feel fucking great and it seems to make both gainz and cutting very easy. I think the "state of ketosis" aspect of the diet is a total meme and basically that it's more likely that this works because 1) it's hard to overeat excessively while eating only fat- and protein- rich foods (but supplementing with protein shakes makes bulking possible too) and 2) it probably has a positive impact on testosterone and hormone balance in general. That said, I'm getting a little bored of eating eggs as a quick staple food, and I want something I can prepare in bulk, and I especially want some substitutes for things that I miss if only for convenience sake, like bread for sandwiches or dough for pizza. So, my question to you bros is this: Is almond flour bread actually keto friendly?

Also, is there a /fit/ cheat sheet anywhere for go-to keto foods and recipes? Eating steak, bacon, and eggs every day is nice, but I'd like more variety and sometimes I just don't want to go to the trouble of cooking a steak and cleaning up. For example, if almond flour isn't bullshit, I'd really love to make a keto pizza that I can eat for a few days afterwards.

Pic related: I eat this every day

>> No.16981942

>>16981939
Just eat less

>> No.16981945

>>16981942
your post is not useful at all, read the OP and respond with on-topic content or take your business elsewhere sir, thank you

>> No.16981959

>>16981939
Use lettuce

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>>16981945
No

>> No.16981967

>>16981959
can't make pizza with lettuce
>>16981965
I would kneel but you missed your digits by 1, better luck next time Brad

>> No.16982505

>keto
Lol, maybe try a less retarded diet

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>>16981939
>mostly written by and for dumb women I assume
Cringe. Go chug dick and have that as a keto meal if you hate women so much, useless fat fuck.

>> No.16982558

>>16982554
Hello, I'm one of those men.

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I don't have a problem with gay people.
I don't have a problem with brown people.
I don't have a problem with Muslims.
I don't have a problem with Jews.
I kinda sorta respect the holyfuckinghell out of modern women.

In other words, I'm not a pea brained toddler repeating history as farce with an orange fucktard who puts children into LITERAL concentration camps.

I'm not pissing my pants scared at the idea of women having more voices, more votes, and - GASP - more control over worldly affairs.

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>> No.16982564

Fathead dough is what you're looking for. Its mozzerella eggs and almond meal/flour its passable and different but it wont quite be "real" pizza.

>> No.16982577

just give up on the carbs, there's not many nutrients and you get used to not having them soon enough. just get it over with and drop the pizza. go to papa murphy's and get the keto bowl.

>> No.16982602

Once you reach your cutting goals or just stop being morbidly obese you should probably get off the meme diet fren

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>>16982558
I'm a femanon you fucking loser.

>> No.16982718

>>16981967
>can't make pizza with lettuce
can't eat pizza on keto

That's just the way it works. No, there's no remotely satisfying bread substitute that fits into a ketogenic diet. Want something to prepare in bulk and just heat up? Make soups and stews. Want to eat something like a sandwich? Wrap it in lettuce.

Better yet, just go to a moderately low-carb diet. Want pizza? Make thin-crust pizza heaped with cheese and toppings. High protein diets aren't keto. When you guzzle protein shakes, you're not a keto diet anymore anyway. Keto is high fat, moderate protein. Your body is just making the carbs it needs from protein anyway. It's cheaper and more enjoyable to get the glucose you need from carbs, rather than protein.

>> No.16983032

>>16981939
I've made keto pizza different ways while on the diet.
1. cauliflower crust
it comes out ok but not my favorite
2. fathead dough
this is somewhat better but quite calorie dense
3. using ground beef as a base
most commonly did this. thin layer of seasoned ground beef spread out in a pan and covered in sauce + toppings. not really finger food at that point but still tasty
bonus: would go to local pizza place that had a buffet and just eat the toppings off the pizza along with salad.

>> No.16983039

>>16982629
You know the rules, hole.

>> No.16983041

>>16981939
Costco sells a variety of gluten free and keto pizza packs. There's a supreme one with cauliflower crust that's pretty solid. There's a gluten-free one with rice flour crust that comes in a 3 pack that's actually amazing, but that's not quite keto.

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>>16981939
Best keto bread substitute is chaffles.

Perfect for sandwiches and hamburgers. I eat breakfast sandwiches every day made with simple mozzarella+egg chaffles. There's many chaffle recipes for different textures.

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>>16981939
Here's two really good keto cookbooks in EPUB format. My mom makes recipes from both and I have enjoyed them a lot.

>New Keto Cooking: Fresh Ideas for Delicious Low-Carb Meals at Home by Michael Silverstein
http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=762B36A07553781BF6A456B72FE42FAE

>Easy Everyday Keto: Healthy Kitchen-Perfected Recipes by America's Test Kitchen
http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=673D6C15565275EB6918BE53C01D4ABA

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>>16981939
>>16983032
>>16982564
Chicken crust pizza is the best low-carb pizza. Very satiating. I can only eat a small slice.
https://www.ketoconnect.net/no-carb-pizza/

>> No.16983076

i've seen people mix up eggs, toss em in the pan, let em cook for a bit then toss on the sauce, cheese, and dough. dunno if it’s any good because i just portion control like a normal person.

>> No.16983082

>>16983052
I do peanutbutter chaffles occasionally for dessert with a drizzle of honey. Good shit.

>> No.16983101
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16983101

>>16983039
FAT LOSER

>> No.16983140

I wish I had a ketowife to not eat carbs with.

>> No.16984737

>>16983082
I never actually eat chaffles on their own I just use them as bread substitutes.

Serious Keto has a wonderbread chaffle recipe which is a perfect replacement for untoasted white bread.

>> No.16985558

It's amazing how dumb ketotards are. You can eat carbs you just need to burn them off. What, are you that much of a lazy fuck that you can't get off your chair?

>> No.16986251

I made a cheese crust pizza years back when I did keto, worked surprisingly well. Really greasy though so could be a deal breaker.

Just mix together shredded cheese and egg. Put that on a pizza pan. Cook until it create a "dough". Remove from oven, add toppings, put back into oven till cooked. You could probably find a recipe with specifics online if that sounds appealing.

>> No.16987383

>>16985558
Tim Noakes was a marathon runner who never got fat but he developed diabetes.

Eating carbs and burning them off is still harmful.

>> No.16987402 [DELETED] 

The almond flour based pastries ive tried are pretty good.

All the almond flour based savory bread and crackers I've tried have all been awful. I think maybe because for some reason they often mix it with coconut which gives it a weird texture? I dunno but keto breads/crackers as usually so middling in my experience that you're better off just passing on them altogether and saving your carb budget for something you enjoy. I hear there's something called cloud bread which is molk based if you're not lactose intolerant. I'd love to be proven wrong than find a good keto bread.

>> No.16987409

The almond flour based pastries ive tried are pretty good.

All the almond flour based savory bread and crackers I've tried have all been awful. I think maybe because for some reason they often mix it with coconut which gives it a weird texture? I dunno but keto breads/crackers as usually so middling in my experience that you're better off just passing on them altogether and saving your carb budget for something you enjoy. I hear there's something called cloud bread which is milk based if you're not lactose intolerant.

I'd love to be proven wrong and find a good keto bread.

>> No.16987514

>>16987383
>b-but my outlier example
It's disappointing that your country's education system failed you. If you want to talk athletes, look at the typical Olympian diet.

>> No.16987754

>keto
>>>/reddit/

>> No.16987771

Just get used to not eating bread faggot, the same shit wit vegans and their vegan meat dishes.
There is no real alternative and the keto-breads constisting of Almond flour taste all like shit (not to mention wont allow you to eat more than 2 slices a day anyway without killing your ketosis)

>t. was 1 year on keto myself

>> No.16987892

>>16987514
olympians do steroids

>> No.16987896

>>16987409
Keto breads suck but chaffles are great as an alternative. You can get bread-like textures but it's not chewy like gluten.

>> No.16987907

>>16982629
>responding to obvious bait and pasta
El Retardo Maximo

>> No.16987967

Quest Pizza is what your looking for, and yes, they are expensive.

>> No.16988911

>>16981939
>I've been following a fairly strict keto diet for a while because it makes me feel fucking great and it seems to make both gainz and cutting very easy. I think the "state of ketosis" aspect of the diet is a total meme
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Why even fucking follow it you retard.
The literal only fucking selling point of eating keto is pushing you into ketosis without the hard work of fasting and learning to not listen to ghrelin.

I genuinely didn't read past this line and I don't think the rest of your shitpost would clue me into your state of mind either.

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>>16985558
I'm pretty huge into fasting because I'm disabled and ketosis means a huge deal for keeping weight off without being able to consistently exercise but even the actual ketotards make me wonder about this earth.
The thing is you can eat keto, focus your diet around being in ketosis and kick yourself out of it now and then without worry even if you're a being with it's own gravity because your diet is centered around having minimal carbs and once you're keto-adapted you roll right back on into it much like rolling fasts and eating keto refeeds.
To use a similar schizm from the fasting world: there are groups of people so hardcore in their fasting they cannot consume an extremely minimal amount of skimmed milk/milk powder that won't kick you out of ketosis, use sweeteners that won't spike your glycogen/destroy gut biome, take fucking elctrolytes and even retards who only want to dryfast.

I simply cannot comprehend how the actual ketolards operate when i see posts and cookbooks and shit revolving around it like holy shit just don't eat >20g of fucking carbs, space your meals out and you'll be fine you won't fucking starve and if you're on keto you're not gonna worry too much about losing a little weight be it fat or muscle. If you're gonna lose muscle you lift to maintain and because you're eating keto you'll be fine.

I swear, the schizo ketolards and hardcore dryfasters and 0 cal only water fasters should launch off this earth and establish their own society because they're absolutely insane and they deserve each other, perhaps one day they could breed the perfect evolution of human and they'll come back here to wipe us out.
Carbs are awful for weightloss outside of raw CICO (accounting for activity) because of glycogen and their relationship to ghrelin but these people take it to a whole other fucking level.

>> No.16990759

>>16981945
bumpu

>> No.16991550

>>16988911
The metabolic advantage of carb reduction is +50kcal/day per 10% reduction in carbs.

>> No.16992310

>>16991550
~70 to ~190 kcal/d

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>>16992310
+250kcal/day average metabolic boost going from standard American diet to low-carb. +500kcal/day for the top third of people with highest insulin levels. That's like climbing every stair of the Burj Dubai tower. Every day. Just from not eating carbs.

No wonder keto is the most effective diet in history.

>> No.16992370

I really hope you aren't doing the 70% fat keto diet (for epileptics and facebook moms). Do 50/50 fat/protein. Also not too sure why you think ketosis isn't an actual thing. Where do you think your energy is coming from since itcs not from carbs. Anyway add nuts into your diet. I like walnuts the most. Greek yogurt too.

>>16988938
The advice towards sweeteners is basef on breaking faties addiction to sweet things that got them fat to begin with so once they stop fasting they have a better relationship to food and won't go back to gorging on sweets. Also no idea ehy you have a problem with peoplr who fast telling others to not consume caloties during a fast. Just go on a reduced calorie diet if you want that lmfao

>> No.16992376

>>16981939
Nibba, this ain't google. Of course there is, millions of results. You should try it. Keto is a meme here. I've been keto for six years and there are metric tons of info out there. Find shit that works for you. Meal prep is number 1.

>> No.16992589

>>16982558
>I don't have a problem with Jews.
stopped reading there

>> No.16992644

>>16992331
I was referencing the Ludwig et al analysis but yeah the results are directionally consistent. The effect I was quoting is from a meta analysis so that probably explains the smaller effect size

>> No.16992653 [DELETED] 

>>16992370
>I really hope you aren't doing the 70% fat keto diet
thats the one you want to do if you are diabetic, have cancer, diabetes etc

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