Anybody else cutting out industrial “veg” oils for health?

[Anonymous No.17065161]

Turns out they are really bad for you. Quite profitable though, and since Bayer and Monsanto linked up they can sell you the disease and the cure.

[Anonymous No.17065190]

I missed out on the health studies shit when I was forming my food habits, but I don't buy them often because they don't taste very good. can't imagine baking with them for instance but that seems to be a common use. however I will never cut them out completely -- I keep a bottle in my house for the occasional deep fried food (french fry, falafels, plantains, etc.)

[Anonymous No.17065192]

>”industrial” means things I don’t like
A girl farting while you’re going down on her is industrial as fuck.

[Anonymous No.17065194]

>>17065161
I completely stopped using all vegetable oils. I use clarified butter and olive oil exclusively. No other modifications to my diet. My cholesterol went from "extremely high, needing medication to prevent heart attack" to absolutely perfect in 2 years. Not larping

[Anonymous No.17065198]

Why do we keep going back and forth on whether or not fats are good

[Anonymous No.17065220]

They're not as bad for you as getting butt fucked by me.

[Anonymous No.17065238]

>>17065220
Easy there Mr. 3 inches

[Anonymous No.17065242]

>>17065238
You've never seen my dick, I don't fuck retards.

[Anonymous No.17065245]

>>17065198
Fats are fine, it's the source that matters

[Anonymous No.17065268]

Oh boy, the schizo is back.

[Anonymous No.17065273]

>>17065161
>it's another schizo thread about vegetable oil

[Anonymous No.17065279]

>>17065161
Your picture doesn't have any rape in it, why no rape? Rapeseed oil is health and needs more representation. Put that Rape Seed in your mouth.

[Anonymous No.17065290]

I don't really understand what the problem is
I cook with lard, ghee, butter, olive oil, peanut oil, mustard oil and rice bran oil
Is there anything bad in there?
Apparently seed oils are terrible?

[Anonymous No.17065410]

>>17065192
I think it has more to do with the heavily chemical-based, multi-stage processing that these oils must endure before they are even "safe" to consume, champ.

[Anonymous No.17065420]

>>17065268
>>17065273
>posting the nearly exact same comment twice to consensus crack
Why can't the controller class afford better shills any more? Used to be this kind of pathetic shit would get you fired.

[Anonymous No.17065446]

>>17065420
>anyone who disagrees with me is a shill
Okay, faggot. They must be “industrial” too.

[Anonymous No.17065458]

>>17065446
>"anyone"
Yet another shill tell. You need an updated script, this isn't working as-is. I realize the creative people are a different department and you're just a grunt who shits out stuff on a script, but it's not working. You're being way way too obvious and people are catching on.

[Anonymous No.17065467]

>>17065458
Lol holy fuck dude, you really are legitimately schizo, aren’t you.

[Anonymous No.17065473]

Been buying corn oil all my life because that's what my mother always cooked with. Transitioned to olive oil last year and never looked back.

[Anonymous No.17065476]

>>17065467
Nope, but your script is woefully out of date.

We can keep doing this, I've cycled through everything IN your script, with YOU (yes, YOU) numerous times before.

One way people can easily tell you're a shill is that you have nothing useful to say on the OP post, but you seem obsessed with the thread anyway. It's a classic shill tell, very pathetic.

[Anonymous No.17065511]

>>17065476
>[schizo rambling intensifies]
You caught me, anon. I can’t have you enlightening the masses; we need them to power the matrix.

[Anonymous No.17065515]

>>17065410
And? You need a reason other than processing is involved to show why it is bad for you.

[Anonymous No.17065523]

>>17065511
One other way to tell a shill really easily is they always seem to have to reply and get the last word.

Here's a tip for the future, find the big fat lesbian cat lady who wrote your script and show her the pointers I've given you. We can help get this shilling back up to standards. At this point it's amazing you're getting paid, which chicken shit outfit are you with?

[Anonymous No.17065528]

>>17065515
Why? Heavily processed non-foods aren't foods, it's only though heavy processing that they become even slightly edible, but they are still toxic.

You haven't shown how heavily processed foods are good for you, so you're hardly in a position to complain.

[Anonymous No.17065529]

>>17065515
No, you don’t get it.
Processed *is* bad. That’s why things I don’t like are processed, factory, industrial, etc. evil corporate poison made by people bent on world domination.
But things like butter or olive oil don’t come from companies or factories. They’re made with love by decent people who want to make the world a better place.
That’s should be reason enough.

[Anonymous No.17065537]

>>17065410
>MUH CHEMICALS MUH CHEMICALS THE BIG SCARY WORDS SCARE ME BECAUSE IM RETARDED AND I CANT LEARN CHEMICAAAAAALLLLLLLLLSSSSSSSS
Everything's a chemical. Kill yourself retard.

[Anonymous No.17065540]

>>17065537
Still trying to slide the thread?

[Anonymous No.17065543]

>>17065537
No; bad things are chemicals. Processed factory chemicals.
Good things are natural. That’s why chemicals don’t occur in nature.

[Anonymous No.17065545]

>>17065537
is your big stinky vagina a chemical?

[Anonymous No.17065552]

>>17065523
>the only possible way anybody could disagree with me is if they're paid to do so
Brainlet.

[Anonymous No.17065556]

I literally make these threads to test our Bayer-Monsanto shills and see if they ever get an updated script.

[Anonymous No.17065557]

>>17065161
walmart brand pringles is cooked with sunflower, they taste so good, oily but good

[Anonymous No.17065559]

>>17065552
How much were you paid to post this?

[Anonymous No.17065565]

>>17065161
redpill me on why veggie oil is bad, i switched to olive oil/butter/bacon grease but i want to know why its bad aside from ruining the taste of food

[Anonymous No.17065566]

>>17065559
$0.00
I do this for free because I hate retards thinking their opinion is worth anything.

[Anonymous No.17065570]

>>17065557
Do they even admit where they're from? Many packaged food items no longer even say, they just say "distributed by so and so."

[Anonymous No.17065575]

>>17065529
>>17065543
kek

[Anonymous No.17065581]

>>17065565
it's poison and fucks with your metablism, but it's big business so there will be shills trying to convince you otherwise

we've got at least one running the standard script in this thread

[Anonymous No.17065582]

i started to, then i realised i dont actually know if its bad or why it would be, i would just be following another trend.
i had a way of getting enough chicken fat for free to be my primary cooking fat, but it turns out its high in the same stuff seed oils are high in despite being an animal fat.
whats worse for you, seed oils or the other crap people eat daily, sugar, white flour, alcohol, candy etc

[Anonymous No.17065584]

>>17065566
So Monsanto and Lord Xenu have literally chemically altered your brain to make you do this for free. This must be the future of shilling.

[Anonymous No.17065586]

>>17065570
I live in the people's republic of canada, by law it has to say it's made in canada from domestic and imported ingredients. Just says produced for, not who produced by

[Anonymous No.17065587]

The only reason I make these threads is to remind everyone of how retarded I am, amd it seems you've all fallen for ir once more. Sad.

[Anonymous No.17065592]

>>17065584
If a shill shills for shilless shills, is it really shilling?

[Anonymous No.17065598]

>>17065581
does olive oil/butter/bacon grease do the same things as veggie oil?

[Anonymous No.17065601]

>>17065581
>but it's big business so there will be shills trying to convince you otherwise
This.
Evil corporations are happy to sell poison.
You can tell which oils are good because they aren’t sold by businesses or companies.

[Anonymous No.17065602]

>>17065581
>we've got at least one running the standard script in this thread
You only see the patterns they want you too. You're a fool playing right into their hands if you think the shills would be that easy to spot, chud.

[Anonymous No.17065613]

Is olive oil safe?

[Anonymous No.17065621]

>>17065592
Only a shill would write the word shill so many times in one post.
You fell into my trap, shill. That’s why I make these threads.

[Anonymous No.17065634]

>>17065621
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
tell my family...that...I *cough* was a good shill...
*dies*

[Anonymous No.17065659]

>>17065634
Nothing personnel, Monsanto kid. You were dead from the moment you decided to face me.

[Anonymous No.17065686]

>>17065621
>>17065634
>>17065659
absolutely seething, get an updated script and you won't have this problem

[Anonymous No.17065721]

>>17065613
Yes it's fine.

[Anonymous No.17065745]

>>17065686
>implying you're talking to one person
>implying any of us are being paid to shitpost on a Malawian mud hut image board
Toppu kekku

[Anonymous No.17065757]

>>17065745
Yeah shills on 4chan? pfft, nobody believes that. What outfit are you with? I know AECOM does a lot of contract shilling here. Google owns the site too and they have at least 40,000 full time shill.

[Anonymous No.17065759]

>>17065290
Ghee is one of the best things to cook with a long with coconut oil. Olive oil is really good for you but gets ruined when you cook with it so save it for salads.

[Anonymous No.17065764]

I've literally never seen a source posted for this claim that seed oils are bad.

I'm not dismissing this out of the hand though, can someone post a source?

[Anonymous No.17065771]

>>17065764
>I've literally never seen
Have you looked? Weird turn of phrase if you haven't. Tell us how you looked, anon.

[Anonymous No.17065779]

>>17065771
No I have not, burden of proof on the person making the claim and all of that. I'm studying nutrition and it's literally never come up.

[Anonymous No.17065780]

>>17065757
>What outfit are you with?
Come on, we both know I can't tell you that. But lets just say my lord and your Lord had a falling out a very long time ago.

[Anonymous No.17065787]

>>17065279
rapeseed oil = called canola oil in the u.s.

[Anonymous No.17065791]

>>17065779
>I'm studying nutrition
Sauce? Not saying I don't believe you but these threads are rife with people saying things that just aren't true in order to defend the seed oil industry.

[Anonymous No.17065796]

>>17065791
I'm literally in class right now

[Anonymous No.17065798]

>>17065242
I guess that trait skips a generation

[Anonymous No.17065802]

Fucking OP shilling for Big Organic.

[Anonymous No.17065804]

>>17065796
You're studying sociology and doing 4chan shilling for a fuckin' CLASS? Which shitty school? Are you one of Professor Blackburn's students?

[Anonymous No.17065810]

Veggie oil shills going mental itt lmao...

[Anonymous No.17065811]

>>17065804
>You're studying sociology
????
One of my units relates to population-wide public health topics (which is an element of nutrtion). My other two for the semester are organic chemistry 101 and human nutrition (which is what you expect it to be). I'm not arguing for seed oils or against you, I'm literally just asking for further reading so that I learn more.

[Anonymous No.17065816]

>>17065811
Dare to be stupid.

[Anonymous No.17065817]

>>17065804
>>17065811
To add, did you just see the word 'social' and jump to conclusions?

[Anonymous No.17065823]

>>17065613
Nope. Every mixed blood in the Mediterranean is shipping out gutter oil laced with olive flavoring to the rest of the world.

[Anonymous No.17065825]

>>17065816
Just give me what you're basing this on, I WANT to know more

[Anonymous No.17065830]

>>17065779
>I'm studying nutrition
Kek

[Anonymous No.17065834]

Fucking OP shilling for Big Organic.

[Anonymous No.17065841]

Fucking OP for shilling Big Organic

[Anonymous No.17065865]

Still literally waiting for evidence, this wouldn't be a paranoid schizo thread, would it?

[Anonymous No.17065871]

Fucking OP for shilling Big Organic

[Anonymous No.17065885]

>>17065834
>>17065841
The relentless seethe makes the shilling obvious. No normal consumer cares enough to get this assblasted about giving up vegetable oil.

[Anonymous No.17065890]

>>17065885
Fucking OP mom for shilling Big Organic.

[Anonymous No.17065917]

>>17065791
A seed oil helicopter is circling my house. This might be the end for me, bro.

[Anonymous No.17065921]

>>17065917
Monsanto has had people killed in other countries, shilling is literally not even a sin according to them.

[Anonymous No.17065947]

I found this study on grapeseed oil:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.4137/NMI.S32910

Seems to be a benefit?
"Grape seed oil is a by-product of winemaking industry, with good benefits to human health. Numerous in vitro and in vivo evidences suggest cardioprotective and anticancer effects of grape seed oil."

[Anonymous No.17065961]

>>17065947
Look into who funded the research before you even bother with the summary.

[Anonymous No.17065991]

>>17065161
kys you contrarian fuckface

[Anonymous No.17066057]

>>17065991
>cuts off penis
>now projecting sucidal ideation
many such cases

[Anonymous No.17066063]

>>17065961
>the research was funded by big grape

[Anonymous No.17066075]

>>17065161
Is peanut oil lumped in with this industrial garbage?

[Anonymous No.17066084]

>>17066063
yes the california grape industry is huge business, start looking a bit closer at who funded it

[Anonymous No.17066089]

>>17065161
heres perhaps the largest and most well controlled clinical trial conducted on vegetable oils and PUFAs in the diet. oh and the data went unpublished for decades because it was contrary to the dogma at the time.
https://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i1246
>no mortality benefit for the intervention group in the full randomized cohort or for any prespecified subgroup. There was a 22% higher risk of death for each 30 mg/dL (0.78 mmol/L) reduction in serum cholesterol
so yes they will lower your cholesterol but probably because they are killing you. other clinical trials that advertise some benefit also neglect the increased risk of cancer as a result of these diets high in vegetable oils

[Anonymous No.17066094]

>>17065961
Oh good you're still here, please now post a study to the contrary.

[Anonymous No.17066098]

>>17066094
you have not posted any meaningful evidence. randomized clinical trials are preferred like the one i posted in >>17066089

[Anonymous No.17066101]

>>17065192
No, industrial means "cheap in bulk and common in commercial kitchens"

[Anonymous No.17066105]

>>17066098
I again state that you're the one making the claim and therefore you need to back it up. Again, if seed oils are bad, I want them out of my diet. I just saw that and I'm reading it, but just skipping to the conclusion really quickly now:
"Available evidence from randomized controlled trials shows that replacement of saturated fat with linoleic acid effectively lowers serum cholesterol but does not support the hypothesis that this translates to a lower risk of death from coronary heart disease or all causes. MCE findings add to growing evidence that incomplete publication has contributed to overestimation of benefits, and underestimation of potential risks, of replacing saturated fat with vegetable oils rich in linoleic acid."
Okay great, but that doesn't say anything about seed oils being toxic.

[Anonymous No.17066109]

>>17065798
Holy shit mercy on the poor boy

[Anonymous No.17066112]

>>17066105
the linoleic acid in many of these trials is from vegetable oils like corn oil soybean oil etc. im sure any minute now somebody is going to post the Harvard critique and you can see for yourself how nonsenical it is. but also totally not relevant that Harvard School of Public Health takes millions from soy corn and other plant industries

[Anonymous No.17066116]

>>17066105
i was also not that anon that brought up conflicting interests because if you just look at the clinical trial data i think the answer is already clear enough

[Anonymous No.17066125]

>>17066112
>>17066116
My AI says these 2 comments were made by the same person with 98% certainty.

[Anonymous No.17066133]

>>17066125
or you couldve just asked and i wouldve told you that. also kinda obvious from my conssistently shitty grammar

[Anonymous No.17066159]

>>17065921
>Monsanto has had people killed in other countries
[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.17066171]

"I get paid to disagree with anonymous strangers on an image-based forum."

Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds? Anyone who's not schizo here, that is the running joke on 4gag and it's starting to get old. All other schizos, this has been Big Corn comin' at you live. Buy more frito lay products and yes those chopper blades you just heard were the FDA. Consider yourself brainwave scanned, nerds.

Detected thread sentiment: buttfrustration

[Anonymous No.17066174]

>>17066075
Technically, any refined oil would be; however, OP is likely only referencing seed oils.

[Anonymous No.17066201]

Vegetable oils are literal poison because they come plants. You know what makes plants grow? The sun. The fucking sun. A literal unshielded fusion reactor bombarding us with cancerous gamma rays. Plants capture this cancer and concentrate it into seeds
Seeds are literal carcinogen bombs.

[Anonymous No.17066231]

>>17066171
they probably do it with bots for the most part. people are too expensive unless you hire third worlds. but corpos hiring shills is nothing new and not schizo tier you idiot

[Anonymous No.17066240]

>>17066201
vegetable oils are poison because they are inflammatory and toxic when heated. they are unstable unlike saturated animal fats which do not oxidize when heated. also they seem to increase cancer though i have no clue how that happens.

[Anonymous No.17066283]

>>17066174
Then what should I cook my food in? Butter and animal fats like lard and tallow?

[Anonymous No.17066291]

>>17066283
ghee if you are doing high heat. lard and tallow are also good. grass fed if you can afford it. some people also swear by duck fat but personally im not a fan of the taste

[Anonymous No.17066299]

>>17065198
Nutritional science is relatively new and obnoxious to study because it takes decades to analyze and even then you get dubious results when you have to account for lifestyles.

[Anonymous No.17066325]

>>17066299
the real problem is most of it is low quality and uninterpretable and or funded by dubious sources of questionable integrity. for example if you take out all the sugar industry funded studies on whether or not sugar is deleterious to human health the answer becomes much more clear.

[Anonymous No.17066433]

I’m scared what’s gonna happen when the 5G signals activate the nanomachines in the seed oil I was vaccinated with?

[Anonymous No.17066497]

>>17066291
Thank you for the info

[Anonymous No.17066512]

>>17065161
indians cook their shit in peanut oil and are skinny af. the type of oil you cook with isn't the problem. sorry, you aren't going to lose the 100 lbs you hoped for.

[Anonymous No.17066517]

>>17066325
Correct, food industry loves spreading FUD and has a powerful lobby

[Anonymous No.17066519]

>>17066512
actually northern indians who were much healthier ate much more dairy and used significant animal fats. how long has peanut oil been used? if you say since about 1900 thats when heart disease prevalence began to increase. of course thats just an association but an awfully conspicuous one

[Anonymous No.17066523]

>>17066512
>indians cook their shit in peanut oil and are skinny af
India is up there with China for most diabetics in the world iirc

[Anonymous No.17066538]

>>17065528
>Heavily processed non-foods aren't foods
If you can extract caloric value from something you eat it's food.
>heavy processing
Is butter or cheese heavily processed? What about salted or cured meat? How about grains?

[Anonymous No.17066588]

>>17065798
got em

[Anonymous No.17066597]

>>17066538
based pica anon

[Anonymous No.17067056]

>>17065798
How will he ever recover??

[Anonymous No.17067067]

>>17066299
And a lot of the data has historically been skewed up by big players who want to make their product look good

[Anonymous No.17067125]

I use Ghee, Olive oil, Lard and Duck fat for all my cooking now. I havent touched vegetable oils for a year now and i've never been healthier

[Anonymous No.17067139]

>>17067067
Yeah, it's not like nutritional science is hard to study. It's about how they have to skew all the results to conform to industry guidelines which earns them the most revenue.

[Anonymous No.17067182]

>>17065410
Best I can figure is that processed seed oils have a higher omega 6 to omega 3 ratio. In theory that's why olive oil is healthier than corn oil. A bunch of twitter weirdos hate seed oils.

[Anonymous No.17067527]

>>17066291
>source: Big Organic

[Anonymous No.17067575]

>>17065528
This. Honey, gelatin, maple syrup, breads (or any baked goods), tea, coffee, multivitamins (or any medicine), ice cream, cheese, buttermilk, yogurt, beef jerky, pepperoni (or any cured meat), tofu, and any form of pudding are all literal poisons, and will lead you to an early grave. I actually laugh at anybody who eats any of these over processed """"foods"""" and tell them I try not to associate with walking corpses. NPC's these days lol

[Anonymous No.17067612]

>>17065764
Theres some eye doctor who talks about macular degeneration

[Anonymous No.17067622]

>>17065565
if i understand correctly, it's because the chemical structure of the fats in seed oils leads to higher levels of oxidation, which is correlated with all sorts of bad health outcomes like heart disease and inflammation etc
https://www.alexfergus.com/blog/pufa-s-the-worst-thing-for-your-health-that-you-eat-everyday

[Anonymous No.17067624]

>>17065598
no because (if i understand correctly) it has a different ratio of Omega-3 to Omega-6 (3 is good, 6 is not good)

[Anonymous No.17067634]

>>17065161
Saturated fats are not all bad, there is more than one kind of saturated fat.

Pentadecyclic acid is proven super healthy while palmilic acid is shown to be detrimental.

[Anonymous No.17067652]

>>17067612
That's true, my cousin was telling me about an old hobo he encountered who actually went blind from all the seed oils he consumed.

[Anonymous No.17067658]

>>17067634
> palmolic acid
Palm... as in palm oil?

[Anonymous No.17067680]

>>17067634
Shhhhhhh the brainlets are discussing, you might scare them away with that kind of critical thinking.

[Anonymous No.17067692]

>>17065543
Maybe you should go chomp on some arsenic then, retard. Since it's natural and whatnot.

[Anonymous No.17067716]

>>17065543
>chemicals don’t occur in nature.
idiot

[Anonymous No.17067721]

>>17065161
Omega 3/6 ratio is the most important thing what makes fat healthy. Canola and flax seed oil=healthiest. Butter, lard etc. ABSOLUTELY worst you fucking stupid piece of cuntish contrarian trolling little shit. Kill yourself you absolute fucking spazzer.

[Anonymous No.17067731]

>>17067716
Eat an apple's weight in camphor and get back to me

[Anonymous No.17067761]

>>17065161
I knew years ago to avoid this shit. The increase in heart rate was a good enough indication.

[Anonymous No.17067783]

>>17067731
Drink 20 gallons of water in an hour and get back to me.

[Anonymous No.17067785]

>>17067716
is it really possible to break down foods like this? is this truly all that an apple is?

[Anonymous No.17067793]

>>17067783
Let an anvil fall on your head and get back to me>>17067761

[Anonymous No.17067798]

>>17067785
The real challenge is putting it back together

[Anonymous No.17067799]

>>17067793
Penetrate your cranium with a bullet and get back to me

[Anonymous No.17067806]

>>17067785
Yes it is. If you had taken highschool chem yet, you wouldn't have to ask this my child.

[Anonymous No.17067810]

>>17067799
Cease respiration and get back to me

[Anonymous No.17067819]

>>17067810
I can't because I'm dead you idiot. I took your advice and now I'm a corpse you stupid asshole.

[Anonymous No.17067838]

>>17067798
When chemistry can make an apple in The lab, I'll be more inclined to ingest their chemical slurries

[Anonymous No.17067843]

>>17067806
Eh, on graduate level - it's not *quite* that simple, but you have to cut off at some point, say, 99.9% of compounds. What's the point listing ones you have three particles per whole apple? There's like 10% chance it contains about one atom of Technetium. Does anyone care?
So essentially correct, just have the caveats in the back of your mind.

Nicotine smoke contains over 50 carcirogens. So does an apple. It's the amounts that matter.

[Anonymous No.17067845]

>>17067798
>>17067806
no i meant, is this just what chemicals the apple contains or is it literally everything that an apple is. also i don't see water on there.

[Anonymous No.17067850]

>>17067845
Everything is a chemical retard, including water. That's the point.

[Anonymous No.17067855]

>>17067850
yeah but water isn't on there right? there is water in an apple innit?
and just to affirm, EVERYTHING is a chemical so there is nothing that isn't a chemical in an apple?

[Anonymous No.17067863]

>>17065161
>Bayer and Monsanto linked up

[Anonymous No.17067873]

>>17065161
I have 1 product in my house that uses "expeller-pressed canola oil." It's also organic if that makes any difference. I don't worry about it because it's only 4g fat per 130 kcal serving, so it's not like many calories actually come from the oil. At most I'll eat 1-2 servings of this snack. Blood work has always looked good and I'm generally in good health. Should I still try and find an alternative snack w/o the seed oil? Surely consuming in these quantities is different than someone who regularly eats these chips/crackers, bread, fried food and restaurant food throughout the day, right?

[Anonymous No.17067878]

>>17067855
There's the space between the chemicals

[Anonymous No.17067888]

>>17067575
This some schizo shit


You never associate with anyone lamebro

[Anonymous No.17067902]

>>17067838
>slurries
Another word the zoomlets of /ck/ have made equivalent to “things I don’t like”

[Anonymous No.17067909]

>>17067902
What would you call it?

[Anonymous No.17067910]

>>17065566
I don’t know what happened to this site but it attracted a whole lot of retards on /pol/ that think any and all disagreement is some secret online shill group. They have perfected induced schizophrenia. He might see my post and be one hundred percent convinced I’m just gaslighting him when in reality I’m just tired of people and their AIDS-like autoimmune response to any and all criticism from destroying the body of 4chan. The site it still nigh unusable because of these schizoid reddiboomers, and I’m not sure it’s ever going to get better because they are unwanted wherever they go so they just shit up this site since it doesn’t ban them.

[Anonymous No.17067911]

>>17067888
How bad is your autism? Or are you just stupid?

[Anonymous No.17067923]

>>17067911
You all are fucking stupid. Myself included. If I could take it bak I'd call lamebro an autist.

[Anonymous No.17067929]

A bucket of pig fat only here

[Anonymous No.17067932]

>>17067923
You have to be over 18 to post here.

[Anonymous No.17067948]

>>17067910
/his/ is spamed to no end with these fucks i swear /pol/ just needs to be nuked from this site it will be unbarebale for a few months but they will fuck off at some point

[Anonymous No.17067958]

>>17067948
Never been a /his/ poster, do you have some examples?

[Anonymous No.17067968]

>>17065194
Ah there was something i wanted to ask anon. Is classic olive oil ( baking oil ) not as bad as other vegetable oils?

I exclusively use Sunflower oil but i'm not sure what to use nowadays.

[Anonymous No.17067983]

>>17067968
What you have to look at is the oxidative property of an oil. In this way, saturated fats oxidize the least. Monounsaturated oils are able to oxidize a bit more but polyunsaturated oils oxidize the most. Oxidation puts “oxidative stress” on your body which ages your cells. That’s why “antioxidants” are beneficial for your body.

Some polyunsaturated oils are so oxidation prone that they could oxidize inside your body from your body’s own internal body heat after you have consumed it. Sunflower oil is actually one of the worst oils and used to be agricultural waste byproduct until they paid the FDA to allow it to be sprayed on corn chips until palm oil came along.

[Anonymous No.17068321]

>>17067983
So any hydrogenated oils are fine then?

[Anonymous No.17068344]

>>17067873
better question to ask is why pollute your body at all if you can simply replace the fat in your home? just because you paid for it already doesn't mean you have to use it. also, comparing the damage you're doing to someone who does excessive damage to their body isn't really a great benchmark to go by.

[Anonymous No.17068352]

>>17067983
Which oil helped fake the moon landings?

[Anonymous No.17068396]

>>17065796
We taught 1000 people our shit on what they should buy, they bought those items

Fucking shekleman

[Anonymous No.17068427]

>>17067983
Nice load of shit. Get your head out of your own ass. No, you don't know better than the thousands of scientists worldwide who have studied and worked for these things for decades you arrogant fuckface.

[Anonymous No.17068435]

>>17068427
No, those “scientists” are just paid shills.
I get my data from science bloggers who do it for free.

[Anonymous No.17068473]

what is recommended cooking oil? i sautee veggies a lot. looking for something inexpensive, but not rock-bottom-processed-cheapest-ingrediants-oil

[Anonymous No.17068474]

>>17068427
>SCIENCEEEE YAAASSSSS
lmao fucking braindead - standard appeal to authority in lieu of any actual critical thinking. amazing.

[Anonymous No.17068478]

Why would anyone use anything besides olive oil?

[Anonymous No.17068479]

what is recommended cooking oil? i sautee veggies a lot. looking for something inexpensive, but not rock-bottom-processed-cheapest-ingrediants-oil

is regular olive oil good?

horserace

[Anonymous No.17068486]

>>17068474
This is from the guy who doesn’t understand how cell oxidation works.
Yes, I will take the word of actual researchers using transparent methodologies over conspiracy theories.

[Anonymous No.17068497]

is ricebran oil safe?

[Anonymous No.17068510]

>>17067983
Neat. thanks for the infographic, anon.

[Anonymous No.17068513]

>>17068486
>This is from the guy who doesn’t understand how cell oxidation works
hahahaha... not the anon who made that post, actual retard. pretty easy to comment on your speed limit iq based just on what you've written.

[Anonymous No.17068545]

The ifl science everything everything chemicals crowd really doesnt do itself any favors
Like how you cant question any status quo without being labeled a flat earth tier tinfoil hat
I know it causes me personally to retaliate and question even more
Like seriously why do you care so much if someone doesnt want to eat your mass produced ultra processed cooking oil? Its creepy and makes me want to eat it even less

[Anonymous No.17068552]

>>17068545
Troll harder retardo.

[Anonymous No.17068562]

>>17068552
Great example!

[Anonymous No.17068593]

>>17068552
I'm convinced at least half of these replies are bots. The volume and intensity is not characteristic of /ck, especially when you consider that we are talking about simply not using vegetable/seed oils. If it were against soda, gas station food, fast food chicken sandwiches, or kraft singles it would actually make some sense, but the level of consistent, immediate replies is quite indicative of something other than normal users posting. extremely obvious for anyone who is familiar with the board. not to mention that it's all naysaying simply meant to attack credibility with no real opinion behind it - just as this anon points out: >>17068545.

[Anonymous No.17068610]

>>17068510
Here’s the source
https://olivewellnessinstitute.org/resource/showdown-what-is-the-best-oil-for-cooking/

[Anonymous No.17068626]

>>17067983
>>17068321
Answer the question, troll.

[Anonymous No.17068633]

>>17067958
A chincel, anti-feminist /pol/tard was effortposting about Hitler, known madman & incel
"Before the nigger jannies delete this thread you must post epic memes and tell me how based and redpilled Hitler was, even more based than the Wheat Fields of Europe!"
At this moment a level headed, handsome, well read and intelligent /his/torian entered the thread with not even a single wojak in his computer files. He typed out the following post:
"Who were the good guys in world war two? and who were the superior race?". he did the captcha first time.
The arrogant chincel smirked quite incely, clutching his phone. He smugly replied "Germany and the Germans you betacuck soiboi /leftypol/ shill" and attached a soijack. He didn't need to solve a captcha because he has a 4chan pass
"Oh really?" The /his/torian replied "if the Germans are so superior... Why did they lose to a bunch of Slavshits?"
The chincel was visibly shaken, and dropped his phone and DVD copy of the greatest story never told. He stormed out of the room crying those incel crocodile tears, a far cry from the tears of joy they once shed with the butchering of Juda in the Greater German Reich.
The other /his/torians in the thread applauded and all started to hide /pol/tard threads that day and accepted that America, France and Britain were the good guys in both World War 1 and 2 and that Hitler was a madman. A Lancaster bomber named "Harris" flew over everyone's houses on its way to bomb Dresden once again and dropped a bomb straight on the La Cambe German war cemetery on its way. Churchill's "The Second World War". were read several times, and the ghost of Stalin, Churchill, Roosevelt all showed up and rallied their respective countries for another great crusade against Germany.The chincel finally gave in and forgot his notions of "Degeneracy" and hired a prostitute. The second the head of his penis touched a vagina his chin grew 4 inches and he stopped idolising a dead ideology

[Anonymous No.17068652]

>>17068626
Are these oils mono or polyunsaturated?

[Anonymous No.17068659]

>>17068633
>America, France and Britain were the good guys in World War 1
This is false. If the Axis powers had won, there never would have been a WW2.

[Anonymous No.17068666]

>>17068652
Answer. The. Question.

[Anonymous No.17068668]

>>17068659
the balfour declaration alone is indicative of this.

[Anonymous No.17068673]

>>17068652
the chart already labels them you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.17068683]

>>17068486
I've just skimmed this thread, and I'm sorry but you're incorrect. Is it just because you're afraid to be proven wrong?

[Anonymous No.17068695]

>>17068683
no u

[Anonymous No.17068710]

>>17068593
They are very botty replies
Which legitimizes the schizoid shill theory even more
Why are they doing this?

[Anonymous No.17068724]

>>17068545
>they’re *against* me.. omg there must be a deeper reason
Here’s how it works, fag.
This is an open Internet forum. An anonymous one at that.
You’re free to make any conjecture you wish. And I’m free to say it sounds retarded and seems to be based on nothing more than some blogshit and your own confirmation bias.
If your instinctual response is to accuse me of being paid by some organization bent on keeping you from sharing your enlightened truth with the masses, yes I will call you a schizo.
I don’t give a fuck what you eat.

[Anonymous No.17068728]

>>17068724
Don't feed the troll, seriously.

[Anonymous No.17068730]

>>17068724
Go back to r3ddit dude. You're creepy.

[Anonymous No.17068768]

>>17065161
Why tf don't you use olive oil? Everything else is unhealthy af, no wonder why your food is so shitty too.

[Anonymous No.17068770]

>>17068710
there are probably certain areas of discussion across all boards on 4chan that attract bot replies. like another anon said, processed garbage oils are big business. the fact that they lied for so many years and got away with it indicates a focused effort to delude people. the fact that so many people still believe those lies demonstrates that the effort was very effective. I don't think ck drives a lot of opinion on things in particular, but maybe its adjacency to other, more popular boards via being on the same site likely makes it a target for bot shilling. I can't recall for sure, but another topic that may generate similar replies is anything anti-hfcs. as far as composition of replies, I'd expect a couple actual human shills to pop in and reply at a somewhat infrequent rate, with the bots spamming much more often to fill the gaps and create the effect of popular, organic support.
replies like >>17068724 would be your humans, with replies like >>17068695 >>17068552 being bots. most of ck are too novice in the kitchen to know enough about the differences in oils to have developed this strong of an opinion on them. you'll notice the non-bot-like posts seem to be asking for information and display genuine curiosity in regards to the topic.

[Anonymous No.17068816]

>>17068770
>dismissal or disagreement = bots or shills
>curiosity and positive response = non-bots

You’d probably be received with a bit more seriousness and less skepticism if you avoid the constant “self-proving” assertions.
>These people claiming I’m wrong are proof that I’m right, and they’re attempting to suppress it
It’s basically the same as
>The fact you deny having X-privilege just proves that you have X-privilege

[Anonymous No.17068827]

>>17068816
The canned replies that dont really make much sense in context are the bot replies, retardo

[Anonymous No.17068837]

>>17068816
oversimplification of a response is typical shill behavior. you're not actually addressing anything I said. they really need to invest in higher iq repliers.

[Anonymous No.17068843]

>>17068666
I don’t think hydrogenated oils are generally healthy.

>>17068673
No it labels the percentage of each oil makeup is of PUFA MUFA and SAT. It adds up to a whole. Coconut being 94% saturated fat is a good thing.

>>17068770
Disagreement online is not all bots or trannies or whatever boogeyman pol has taught you to believe. I know you think posting rëddit frog makes you think you’re some epic trole but in reality you’re just some low iq faggot fighting a shadow war on a forum primarily used by women to exchange recipes and laugh at unmelted grilled cheese sandwiches. Get some help

[Anonymous No.17068844]

>>17068770
>organic shills actually out this much effort into their posts
Damn, they must be paying you the big bux

[Anonymous No.17068847]

>>17068843
>I don’t think hydrogenated oils are generally healthy.
Why?

[Anonymous No.17068861]

>>17068843
>Disagreement online is not all bots or trannies or whatever boogeyman pol has taught you to believe
see >>17068593
reducing it to simply "disagreement = bot", ignoring posting patterns and attributing noticing said patterns to pol schizo behavior is pure midwit and/or shill territory. simple as.

[Anonymous No.17068865]

>>17068847
Hydrogenated fats are unsaturated fats that have been bonded to hydrogen to improve stability. Unfortunately this makes them trans fats which have been very reliably linked to raising LDL cholesterol, which generally speaking is not good.

[Anonymous No.17068867]

>>17065161
Turns out you it actually matters shit, quite profitable to shill health scares to idiots though.

We're all just animals living far past our use by date in an environment awash with carcinogens we can't avoid regardless. We will run down around the same time from a heart attack or cancer. Just don't be a fat fuck, or go live somewhere far far away in the boonies and lower your odds of cancer by a couple percent ... you got poisoned as a kid any way, the rest is just fucking around in the margins now. But you weren't going to live forever regardless.

[Anonymous No.17068872]

>>17068861
This will be my last reply to you. Stop this everything is a shill shit it’s driving everyone fucking nuts. Not everything is a shill. Christ you brainlets are so fucking stupid and infuriating.

[Anonymous No.17068882]

>>17068872
>refuses to address the irregular posting patterns and canned replies
>"that's it I'm done!"
then just be done. no need to announce it to the thread, retard. enjoy not noticing anything ever and have a nice, braindead life. cu

[Anonymous No.17068902]

>>17068865
Intentionally partially hydrogenated oils are not allowed to be used for anything in the US, haven't been for 3 years now. Zero exemptions granted, all stock of manufactured products with it as an ingredient had to be sold by last year. It's gone, finished, you're crying about something which doesn't exist any more in the US.

The only thing left are fully hydrogenated oils (hard fats) which almost no one uses because it's bad PR and some trace hydrogenation from high temperature processing. Processing which includes cooking anything at a temperature over 100 degrees at home.

[Anonymous No.17068917]

>>17065798
>>17065242
imagine getting btfo'd the fuck out in a /ck/ schizo thread lmao

[Anonymous No.17068952]

>>17068902
How am I crying? I didn’t bring up hydrogenated oils, you did

[Anonymous No.17068965]

I wish Hiroshimoot would just nuke /pol/ already.

[Anonymous No.17068974]

>>17068952
Fats and oil are colloquial terms which in this context are interchangeable. You can replace oil with fat in my post if it makes you feel better.

Intentionally partially hydrogenated fats are not allowed to be used for anything in the US, you're crying about something which doesn't exist any more in the US.

[Anonymous No.17068992]

>>17068867
I like you. I feel the same way.

>just fucking around in the margins now


Look this got way off topic. I am decidedly a non-schizo and I can tell that some of these replies on fourchins are bots. The one pattern I noticed is that a lot of them were antisemetic or white national or confeds based sentiments. And it was bleeding over into other boards. Ck is pretty...meh...right now. I feel like I still see a fair amount of OC cooking pics each day as opposed to those doldrums of fast food posting.

I use olive oil
Sunflower Oil
Peanut oil
Butter
Bacon fat
vegetable oil
Sesame oiL

I dont like buying vegetable oil blends and feel like they dupe me more often than not

Also i want to die so your silly pseud explanations of science on a german goat dating site is glanced over by me and discarded.

[Anonymous No.17068996]

>>17068974
>>17068843
>I don’t think hydrogenated oils are generally healthy.
a response to:
>>17068652
>Are these oils mono or polyunsaturated?
the only one crying about it is you. some kind of weird projection - really got him there... lmao. what a dumb bitch.

[Anonymous No.17068999]

>>17068974
But I didn’t mention hydrogenated oils at all, I was talking about oils in terms of monounsaturated, polyunsaturated, and unsaturated oils. Please stop drooling all over the thread you fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.17069017]

>>17068999
>But I didn’t mention hydrogenated oils at all
>>Hydrogenated fats are unsaturated fats that have been bonded to hydrogen to improve stability.

[Anonymous No.17069132]

>>17068770
There is such a thing as marketing, companies want to drive engagement. Bots certainly do exist, and they get more sophisticated and cheaper every year. Different websites attract different demographics who have different levels of motivation to dicuss things on the internet. I don't see how anyone could seriously deny the plausability of bot replies, considering how involved regular people are in marketing. Facebook, twitter, youtube, instagram, tiktok have bot engagement, but 4Chan is special?

[Anonymous No.17069197]

I quit using them in 2002 or 2003.
I grow my own fruit and veg.
I make my own bread. Daily.
I travel 1500 km for my olive oil, which I buy directly from the farm.
I buy my meat and cheese directly from farmers.
I buy my fish directly from fishermen.

The revolution will not be televised.

[Anonymous No.17069200]

>>17069017
And that was in reply to a post someone else made about hydrogenated oils you fucking retarded faggot

[Anonymous No.17069210]

how can i convince my mum that vegetable oil is bad for you? shes been buying it my life, and when i tell her its bad i have no argument, so whats wrong with it exactly? she just tells me "dont believe what you read on the internet, people can write anything on there"

[Anonymous No.17069222]

>muh sneed oils

[Anonymous No.17069252]

>>17069132
makes no sense to act like it's some far-fetched plan, the assertion of which only lends more credibility to the directed shill angle.
>>17069210
something like this >>17067983 may work.

[Anonymous No.17069269]

>>17069252
Yes I’m a highly paid oil shill on a backwater shit board full of schizoid trumpfag reddiboomers you are very intuitive and definitely not a retarded faggot

[Anonymous No.17069273]

I, too, have recently watched a youtube video.

[Anonymous No.17069310]

>>17069252
>makes no sense to act like it's some far-fetched plan

It is precisely nonsensical. Its entertaining to present the information in that context. Its fun to say ridiculous things and provoke reactions from all sorts of people. I agree that it can get annoying though, especially when browbeating /pol/ type zoomers take off with something.

Personally, I find the directed shill angle credible because of how readily visible it is on other platforms. I'm open to getting convinced otherwise though.

[Anonymous No.17069314]

>>17069269
>it's impossible for people to be directed to counterpost in certain threads
not really selling a valid argument there, bud. like I said... they definitely need to invest in some better shills because you fags sure do suck at it.

[Anonymous No.17069321]

>>17065279
I agree, OP could use some rape.

[Anonymous No.17069369]

>>17067785
No, that's WAY less than 1% of the compounds found in an apple. That's just a slice of the somewhat standard hydrocarbons and alcohols present, there are many other chemical types in there - to say nothing of complex molecules, such as proteins or nucleic acids.
Also, pretty much guaranteed, not every chemical within an apple has even been isolated/described by science.
Amusingly, this is also evidence in the poster's favor: the contents of an apple are not entirely known and certainly contain compounds known to be toxic to humans at some level; whereas the vaccine is created from the ground up to known specifications.

[Anonymous No.17069376]

>>17069314
Okay but you can’t prove that so why even bring it up? I could be a representative of the lizard people or from the high council of the Jews, and you just THINK I’m an oil industry shill. See how easy it is to go down the rabbit hole of schizophrenia? I’ve been on this board much longer than you and I can name numerous constant autists whose threads we get on regular occasion. I also enjoy cooking, greatly, and can post some of my recent creations. So why don’t you fuck off back to reddít with your faggotry. There is no shill group, it’s just people that think you’re a fucking retard for calling every disagreement a shill

[Anonymous No.17069409]

>>17069376
There definitely are paid shills but theyd probably be wasting their time and money to try to convince anybody on Mongolian Basket weaving forum. Cheaper and more prevalent is the use of shill bots.

[Anonymous No.17069428]

>>17065161
>MONSANTO
Oh for fuck's sake...

No, you stupid fucking cunt. GMOs are not inherently bad. While their could be regulatory issues we might want to keep our eyes open for, GMOs are basically the same process we've been using for thousands of years in the end. The result is exactly the same as if we breed them over time.

GMOs can literally help save the world, but instead stupid gullible shitfucks like you choose to buy into their bullshit marketing schemes.

[Anonymous No.17069432]

>>17065161
>>17069428
I absolutely HATE that people think GMOs should be banned.
They shouldn't be fucking banned. GMOs are progress. You can't go "back to nature". That's just giving up before we've fixed our issues.

Why don't people get this shit?

[Anonymous No.17069436]

>>17065556
>It can't be that people have all sorts of (informed) opinions. Nope, has to be shills

[Anonymous No.17069489]

>>17065921
Like that's anything new. Fucking Coca-Cola and Pepsi have stolen water from communities and almost every company nowadays utilizes what basically amounts to slave labor, but no, Monsanto is the special one. Why?
Because
>muh scary GMO
>muh appeal to ignorance
>muh red fucking herring
No substance, when you get right down to it. I'm willing to bet you haven't looked into shit and are probably under 24.

No, GMOs aren't unhealthy. Its moral panic in its rawest and most taciturn form.

[Anonymous No.17069510]

>>17069432
I think there’s a difference between selective breeding and splicing DNA. I know they spliced the DNA of a virus into the papaya to prevent the entire crop from dying out which was cool, but what if there unintended consequences with doing this? I’m not against GMO or pro GMO, it really depends on our understanding of the resultant chemistry

[Anonymous No.17069593]

>>17069510
>but what if there unintended consequences with doing this?
Brainlet. This is a well researched topic.

[Anonymous No.17069609]

>>17069593
Brainlet doesn't know what unintended means

[Anonymous No.17069652]

>>17069593
Why must you live in a world where something is either 100% good or bad?

[Anonymous No.17069664]

>>17069652
Hubris

[Anonymous No.17069666]

>>17065161
No, too many stupid people I know are having a shitfit over it which tells me some Youtuber is saying it, and it's therefore retarded

[Anonymous No.17069680]

>>17069489
You can hate monstanto and also hate Pepsi and coke

[Anonymous No.17069708]

>>17069666
If a youtuber said the sky was blue, what color would it be for you?

[Anonymous No.17069737]

I strictly use Avacado oil or butter for cooking. I don't like olive oil taste and it burns too fast. Avocado oil doesn't smoke unless it's super fucking hot.

[Anonymous No.17069739]

>>17067983
Mom science, sure you can find studies which say PUFA increase oxidation ... and I can find this just as easily :
https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/met.2014.0045
>Conclusion: A majority of studies do not indicate that n-3 PUFA increased LPO. Future studies need to investigate the effects of dose, duration, and composition of n-3 PUFA with standardized diets and methods on concentrations and types of LPO products produced.

Worrying about the little PUFA in what you use to fry stuff is fucking retarded. Maybe if you're eating a jar of mayo a week start worrying about the oil composition (assuming you're not an obese fuck, in which case you're fucked regardless).

The fat in fish is mostly PUFA too, hope it doesn't hurt your ability to enjoy salmon.

[Anonymous No.17069784]

>>17069376
>There is no shill group, it’s just people that think you’re a fucking retard for calling every disagreement a shill
again... not what I said at all - you're the one reducing it down to this very general stipulation for the second time now.
>I could be a representative of the lizard people or from the high council of the Jews, and you just THINK I’m an oil industry shill. See how easy it is to go down the rabbit hole of schizophrenia?
lmao... you took one leap in logic from that initial assumption and claimed it was a rabbit hole. more of that amazing iq in action.
>Okay but you can’t prove that so why even bring it up?
>"j-just stop mentioning it okay?!!"
the fact that it seems so very important to you that I give up implies that you're worried someone might actually believe me. additionally... I could say the same to you. why not just give up replying to me? you claim to be certain you are right, so that shouldn't require any further justification via replies. the fact is, the harder you fight to shut me up the more credence you lend to the shilling angle. you have yet to give a single valid reason (muh schizo doesn't count) why anyone shouldn't believe that bots/shills are active in this thread. lmao... absolute fucking brainlet.

[Anonymous No.17069794]

>>17069708
Orange

[Anonymous No.17069869]

>>17069739
Nearly all the clinical trials reviewed by this paper are on supplementation of EPA and or DHA which are omega 3 fats not omega 6 PUFAs like those found in vegetable oils. Literally not even relevant

[Anonymous No.17069874]

>>17065511
Call your supervisor over, explain to them that you've been outed and that you need an update. Relax, payday is just a couple of days away.

[Anonymous No.17069876]

>>17069739
Im guessing you didnt even read this before posting or youre just a shill

[Anonymous No.17069891]

>>17069739
>Worrying about the little PUFA in what you use to fry stuff is fucking retarded
every single commercial outfit post ~1970 fries in vegetable oils instead of animal fats and heart disease continues to climb. i dont buy fried foods, never did eat much fried stuff but now i avoid it like the plague

[Anonymous No.17070078]

I don't eat them but wouldn't corn oil and sunflower oil be fucking delicious?

[Anonymous No.17070127]

>>17070078
Not really.

[Anonymous No.17070131]

>>17070078
nah

[Anonymous No.17070350]

>oh look, another pufatard thread
You're either a master troll or actually deranged, I haven't decided which yet.

[Anonymous No.17070630]

>>17070350
>I haven't decided which yet
your opinion has already been discarded so the deciding part is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.17070892]

>>17070630
If you think trolls and lunatics not taking me seriously bothers me in the slightest, then you go ahead and have fun with that kek

[Anonymous No.17070907]

>>17070892
>"doesn't bother me! nope... not one bit!"
>replies
lmao... cope.

[Anonymous No.17071330]

>practically every processed food is made with seed oils
>decide to avoid seed oils
>forced to cook your own food and avoid processed shit

not surprising that this "cutting out seed oils" helps, but who the fuck knows if it's because seed oils are bad for you or not? Every gimmick diet starts off healthy because of this, at least until processed food starts getting marketed for the diet.

desu I mostly avoid them because I hate the smell after frying with them, but they're so fucking absurdly cheap it can be tempting.

[Anonymous No.17071340]

so can i use the peanut oil or not, i need a cheap cooking oil

[Anonymous No.17071346]

>>17071330
PUFAs are largely unhealthy, or as another person said, omega 6 PUFAs

[Anonymous No.17071352]

>>17069510
research it more then, if theres nothing obvious then make it a thing, theres no point banning GMO just because we dont know if they may give you a higher risk of cancer when youre 85 years old

[Anonymous No.17071380]

>>17071352
I agree with this, I just think the science isn’t settled on if it’s good or bad yet. Monoculture is much more dangerous of an issue

[Anonymous No.17071857]

>>17066283
unrefined (red) palm oil is healthy, high smoke point, neutral flavor with a slight nuttiness. broader use case than animal-derived oils which I tend to use for more specific applications. it's terrible for the environment unless you get sustainable brands though, and they are kinda expensive, though less expensive than high quality animal fats