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Are rice cookers worth it?

>> No.17219038

>>17219037
Yes.
/thread

make sure you get the one that makes GABA brown rice.
/thread

>> No.17219039

Do you eat a lot of rice?
Do you enjoy actual good rice and not uncle Ben poverty gruel?
Then yes.

>> No.17219043

>>17219037
if you eat rice at least 3 times a week, totally.
I make rice or buckwheat almost everyday, and it's extremely convenient for me, I just quickly set it up and prepare the meal in the meantime

>> No.17219046

-Rice cookers are great if you love great rice
-The cheap 1-button rice cookers aren’t very good beyond 1-button convenience. They’re literally an ancient design based on a Toshiba model from ~70yrs ago. They will give you rice on-par with a stovetop pot, because they’re just an electric pot that turns itself off.
-Decent ($150ish+) Japanese models are dialed in for short grain as default but can cook other types just fine. Zojirushi gives instructions on what to adjust to cook rice varieties which don’t have a dedicated setting.
-No, nobody buys a decent rice cooker because they “can’t cook rice”.
-No, the rice you make in a pot on your stove is not as good as what a decent rice cooker makes.
-The “boundary” point for “decent rice cooker” is fuzzy logic, or micom, or whatever equivalent the manufacturer likes to call it’s dynamically-adjusting sensor/logic-based cooking cycle.
-Beyond that, it’s diminishing returns. Induction is nice and gives you a somewhat better result. Pressure+IH is nice and gives you a somewhat better result than induction alone. Those things are good if you’re serious about your rice and have the extra budget. Otherwise, just go with “fuzzy logic”.
-If you live in Japan, Zojirushi=Tiger=Panasonic.
-If you live in North America, Zoji > Tiger once you get past $150 because Zoji invests more in exporting newer/better stuff to the NA market.
-If you live in Europe, Zoji hates you and offers you 10yo models at the price of their current upper-end NA models. Go with YumAsia or Cuckoo.
-If you legitimately have to ask if it’s a “meme” or “worth it” and need input from autistic randos on /ck/, then no, a decent rice cooker probably isn’t a worthwhile purchase for you.

>t. rice-autist who has owned way too many high end rice cookers but also has an Igayaki rice donabe for when I want to cook it like an autist from 1000 years ago

>> No.17219052

>>17219046
Where can i buy a 2 cup rice cooker?

>> No.17219073

>>17219037
Just get a multifunction crockpot.

>> No.17219121

>>17219052
As in a good one with “fuzzy logic” or similar?
I don’t personally know of any smaller than 3 cups. But those ones can cook as little as .5 cups just fine.

>> No.17219123

>>17219121
Just tell me a rice cooker than can cook 1 to 3 cups.

>> No.17219124

waste of counter space if you already own a microwave and tupperware.

>> No.17219129

>>17219037
I rather just use my instant pot, always been able to make better rice than an actual rice maker.

>> No.17219145

No

>> No.17219148

>>17219123
Here’s several.
https://www.zojirushi.com/app/category/rice-cookers?ids=5

>> No.17219156

>>17219124
>microwaving rice
That's a paddlin'

>> No.17219708

>>17219037
Yeah the luxury ones work real good as both a rice cooker and a all in one device.
I love making different kinds of vegetable filled pasta dishes in them. Usually i replace most of the water with tomato sauce to prevent it from foaming. Top it with vegetable stock, garlic, onions and cheese after scooping it out and you're ready to go.

>> No.17219730

>>17219037
No. Rice takes 20 minutes to make in a pot with about 4 minutes of actual attention

>> No.17219799

>>17219730
vs 40-60 minutes to make BETTER rice, and zero minutes of actual attention, it can also be made hours before it is going to be served and just sit there waiting for you being kept in perfect condition until you're ready to use it.

it also doesn't take up a burner on your stove.

>> No.17219817

Yes

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>>17219037
If you don't plan on eating a lot of rice, pic related is all you know. Far superior to using a pot of water like a cuck.

>> No.17220044

>>17219129
Used to have one of the cheap rice cookers that always burned rice. Got an Instant Pot and used its rice setting -- it was a huge difference, although I did find that with smaller batches some still got a little browned. I went ahead and got a Zoji 3-cup cooker so that I could do smaller amounts for myself and use the Instant Pot for when I have guests.
Being able to walk way from the cooking without having to worry about a pot boiling over's a plus. Because no matter what you do, that pot will boil over.

>> No.17220289

>>17219046
Only good answer, especially the boundary point.
Fuzzy logic is all you should look for if you‘re not an autist but wants to maximize rice gains.

>> No.17220311

>>17220044
Nice digits

>> No.17220333

>>17219037
Yes but the fuzzy logic bullshit is overkill, unless you're cooking exclusively high quality shortgrain, get a sub 100 tiger with the steam basket. Long grain does not need that much precision to come out good.

>> No.17220343

>>17219046
>no, the rice you make in a pot is not as good as what a decent rice cooker makes
WRONG, but you usually need to cheat like using fat or something

>> No.17220356

>>17219037
Rice is filler food for bug people

>> No.17220438

>>17220343
>WRONG
Negative.

>> No.17220969

What the hell happened to the rice I just made? I keep tasting it without soy sauce, but when I tried it with soy sauce it tasted like literal puke.
It's WinCo soy sauce.

>> No.17221254

>>17220969
It's literally just the soy sauce. I thought it was something simple enough that you couldn't fuck it up, but WinCo did.
I'm disappointed as hell.

>> No.17221983
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The consensus is that the high end model or the super low end model are both excellent choices. I have the cheapy $20 and it is fantastic. I don't have to watch the stove and can focus on cooking or other things I need to be doing. I find them way more useful than most other appliances.

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>>17219730
yeah and fuck toasters too and your blender us forks and shit lazy motherfuckers where do you get the money for all these "appliances" when you could just be cooking on the stove shit

>> No.17222599

>>17219037
If you eat rice 4 or more times a week. I'd say a good Zoji rice cooker is worth it.
If you eat 1-3 times a week, then one of the cheaper Zoji rice cookers are worth it.
If you eat rice less than once a week, get one of the really basic ones, or learn to just cook rice in a pot and get it dialed in yourself.

>> No.17222601

>>17219052
Zojirushi makes 1-3 cup rice cookers.

>> No.17222615

>>17219730
And the rice is shit in comparison.

>> No.17222646

>>17219037
yes.
>>17219156
Its not bad. I used to make rice in a clay pot in the microwave and it turned out fine. Rice cooker is still better though.

>> No.17223032

>>17219046
You seem to know your stuff. What I find in reviews is that most of the listed quality brands are either best suited for short grain or sticky rice. Problem is I mostly do jasmin or basmati. Supposedly they don’t come out perfect.

>> No.17223093

>>17223032
The Japanese brands are designed assuming short-grain japonica as a default.
So the markings on the bowl and whatnot are for that.
They can absolutely do short/medium grain to perfection; of course minor adjustments to the water/rice levels are sometimes needed.
Zoji has a page where it gives adjustment instructions for each model of rice maker.
https://www.zojirushi.com/grains/
A few of their newer models also have a jasmine setting.

>> No.17224490

Can anyone recommend the Yum Asia Panda mini rice-cooker?

>> No.17224508

>>17222000
This but unironically.

>> No.17224540

>>17223032
I pretty much only use basmati in my Tiger rice cooker and it comes out perfect. Never had issues with basmati even in the cheaper rice cookers.

>> No.17224548

>>17219037
>Buying a $200 rice cooker

I mean, if you fucking eat rice everyday and want to live out your weeb anime fantasies I guess? I like rice, but I couldn't eat it everyday. I suppose lots of people can just live on rice and nothing else, had a fat weeb friend in college that would buy a 50lb bag of rice and told me he would just eat that everyday to lose weight.

>> No.17224577

>>17224548
Lasts a decade+ and if you eat rice 2/3 times a week it adds up. May as well invest up front and get the convenience.

>> No.17225291

>>17219037
If you eat rice every day and you want it perfect every time. Yes.

>> No.17225824 [DELETED] 

>>17219037
NIGGERS

>> No.17225829

>>17225824
Good contributing to the thread

>> No.17225834

>>17225829
SREGGIN

>> No.17225837

>>17225829
Thanks man. Sometimes I cook rice in my Instant Pot but its timers don't get me the results I can get using a pan.

>> No.17225856

>>17219037
got one the other day
fancy zojirushi 5.5cup
makes rice perfectly and it stays warm for like 12 hours no problem

>> No.17225862

>>17225856
>it stays warm for like 12 hours no problem
I'm sure many a necrophiliac can share in your enthusiasm.

>> No.17225880

>>17225862
what
it's got a keep warm setting and extended keep warm

>> No.17225885

>>17225880
Imagine if corpses could be kept warm that long. Imagine that necro-poontang.

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>>17224508
Seriously. I can forage up a blended smoothie in fucking no time. Appliances are a crutch.

>> No.17227481
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17227481

yes

>> No.17227490

>>17225904
Enjoy stone fragments in smoothie

>> No.17227492

>>17219046
>-If you live in Japan, Zojirushi=Tiger=Panasonic.
$100
Iris Oyama
$100-$200
Zojirushi=Tiger=Hitachi
$200-$300
Zojirushi=Tiger=Panasonic=Hitachi=Toshiba=Mitsubishi
$300-$400
Zojirushi=Tiger=Panasonic=Hitachi=Toshiba=Mitsubishi
Over $400
Zojirushi=Tiger=Panasonic

>> No.17227535

I just use a pot because I am too lazy to wash a rice cooker.

>> No.17227599

>>17222222

>> No.17227606

>>17219037
Imagine wasting money, wasting space in your kitchen, polluting the enviornment all because you are too stupid to use a pot.

>> No.17227622

>>17224490
Can't say anything about the panda but Bamboo owner here, wish i had chosen a smaller one as i cook rice for me alone. I imagine that it's just as reliable and nice as the Bamboo though.

It has fuzzy logic, a ceramic bowl and a timer which is what you'd basically want.

>> No.17227849

>>17219037
No, learn to cook rice, it's not that fucking hard.

>> No.17227865

>>17227849
>people buy rice cookers because can’t cook rice
You’re a special flavor of retarded, aren’t you, little guy?

>> No.17227884

>>17227865
It's a waste of money. If you've got a pot, use that, it's really not that fucking hard.

>> No.17227903

>>17227884
I enjoy having much better rice than what you make with a pot.
Therefore the cost is justified.
>it’s not that hard
You’re right. Making shitty rice is easy.

>> No.17227970

>>17227884
Spotted the smooth brain

>> No.17228682

I was told an insta-pot was too difficult for my brother to use to make rice, so I got him one of the Zojirushi one that only has a power button and he loves it. Good thing I didn't get one of the $150 dollar ones for him, two buttons would be too complicated.

>> No.17228754

>>17228682
>helping your retarded brother at least be able to feed himself something
You are a good person, anon.

>> No.17229171

>>17227622
I need to cook rice for 2 persons (and 3 persons soon enough), so the Panda size will suit me I think. I'm stingy with my countertop space. Good to hear that you think the Bamboo version is nice, the Panda has most of the options.

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17229271

This kuri gohan was oishii desu yo. ^_^

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>>17229271
>made in japan
hello? Based department

>> No.17229281

>>17229279
Zoji is sure to emblazon that on their Japan-made models, because they know that’s why people are willing to pay more.

>> No.17229302

>>17229171
Yeah i think that model's fine.
I've got the benefit of having a larger fridge which can hold a few cooking applications and all, otherwise the bamboo would really have been overkill. But the panda will be a bit smaller i think, also more comfortable when used a lot.

>> No.17229430

>>17225904
depends, if it means I'm saving time or making multiple things are once I'd rather have the appliance take care of the small shit

>> No.17229458
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17229458

A rice cooker isn't only for rice. It can be used for a variety of dishes.
I've personally made a lot of cake, soup, eggs, spaghetti, fruit, juice and jam in mine. It's definitely a worthwhile investment.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxz_bGskjNg

>> No.17230071

>>17219046
>yumasia
literally oem cheap chink garbage from aliexpress but with their own branding and 3-5x markup.

you was doing so well until then also. Sad

>> No.17230103

>>17230071
>oem cheap chink garbage from aliexpress but with their own branding and 3-5x markup
so link the aliexpress versions and don't be a faggot

>> No.17230126

>>17230103
literally type in rice cooker... you cannot miss it, holy shit

>> No.17230142

>>17230126
weird, none of the ali models look anything like the yumasia models, and don't have any of the same features either...

Sounds like you're a cock sucking faggot that doesn't know what they're talking about.

but hey, you could link me to an exact copy of the yum asia models and prove me wrong. but we both know you wont.

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17231609

No. They're a meme

>> No.17231979

>>17230142
He's talking shit. I think the electronics are at the very least made in Korea. The bowl is Japanese i believe.

>> No.17231983

>>17219038
fpbp

>> No.17231984

Thr zoji I use is from the early 90s and still makes perfect rice.

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>>17219037
yes but don't spend more than $30 for one, you don't need one with a LED display to cook rice.

>> No.17232511

>>17230142
>>17231979
Oh great, we got the YumAsia shills who always seem to perk up because they literally search the company title. All across the internet you'll find replies with 1 post count about how great their products are using marketing terms.

It's LITERALLY rebranded Chink shit. How do you not see this? It's the same with Reishunger and Drew and Cole and all that other shit. Order a bunch from a chink wholesaler, change the packaging, maybe even some of the buttons to try and hide the fact it's chink shit from chink wholesaler, but the products are all the exact same. The shell is the same, the electronics are the same, everything except a couple of tiny little aesthetic differences

Fuck, I can't believe it's 2022 and people STILL don't know how e-commerce works.

>> No.17232524

>>17232511
Shut the fuck up you retarded buttfucking faggot.
Holy fuck everyone already knows the shit you’re screeching. You aren’t special like your single whore mom said you are.

YumAsia is a viable alternative for Europeans who don’t have good access to the major Japanese brands of rice maker. Nobody is shilling shit you screechy little cunt.

>> No.17232542

If you're going to get one, then at least get one from a manufacturer who manufacturers their own cookers and doesn't just rebrand shit and resells it for 3x the cost with a cutesy logo.

Simple really. Use your brain

>> No.17232547

>>17219046
Reddit post

>> No.17232559

>>17232547
>actual information is reddit
Go back to /b/

>> No.17232927

>>17219046
Nah, the rice is make on the stove is world class. No one knows how I do it so well, I tell then it's my secret ingredient, which it is. And no, I'm not telling you my secret ingredient.

>> No.17233084

>>17232511
>he still refuses to look any despite the fact he claims they're obvious and everywhere on ali

You're a faggot

>> No.17233089

>>17233084
>look
Link

>> No.17233374

>>17232547
faggot post.

>> No.17233689

>>17232511

ok I have a Reishunger mini and i see nothing on Aliexpress that looks remotely like it.

>> No.17233824

>>17219046
What about Reishunger?

>> No.17233832

>>17219039
ummmmmmm EXCUSE ME
it's just Ben's now, we don't refer to him as 'Uncle' anymore, that was a relic of racist days past

>> No.17233875

>>17233824
dont buy the coockoo from them if you also want the steaming basket. they list it as included, dont ship it, and then offer you some fucking 10€ credit for rice. take a wild guess as to how possible it is to get said basket separately..

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>>17233832
Motherfucker I thought you were memeing and then I looked that shit up.
Fuck this gay earth.

>> No.17233934

>>17233911
Same with aunt jemima's, now it's "pearl milling company"

>> No.17233950

>>17233934
Well yeah that was all over the news.
I never heard shit about uncle Ben though. And I don’t buy shitty rice so I never noticed at the store.

>> No.17233969

>>17233911
.. your are complaining about the removal of a nigger from a packaging? really?

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>>17233875
Just looked at their shop. Why would you ever buy this if the plastic one is cheaper and works just as well?

>> No.17234321

>>17234250
eh, now i kind of want it. because of the heft and because unlike plastic its unkillable and dishwasher safe should you somehow manage to get it Really dirty.
how much is it? if its around 25€ i would splurge on it, had i not promised myself never to buy from them again. (i assume its full metal with a plastic / silicone cover at the bottom)

>> No.17234338

>>17234321
It's 20€ with silicone at the bottom.

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>>17234338
seems fair to me.
in general plastic tools are unpleasant to work with, because they will always feel subpar, flimsier, lighter.
obviously going all metal is pure luxury and it is in most cases an unnecessary expense. but enjoying the tools you work with is something hobby cooks can afford if they want to.
same thing with bowls, a plastic one is even superior to porcelain because good luck breaking it. but even my cheapo chinky porcelain 1ls feel far more pleasant than the plastic one i now only use for storage of freshly cut shit that is soon to get wok'd.

>> No.17234390

>>17233875
Looks like they don't even sell the cuckoo anymore. At least not on their own site.

>> No.17234420

>>17234390
yep, you seem to be correct. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GM6SILE/ this is the one i got off them for two fiddy around september 19.
so far it has had no issues apart from always overflowing when ive tried to cook even like a 1/3's worth of the pot of dumplings. so i just gave up using it for anything but rice.

>> No.17234449

>>17234420
Is more expensive but looks definitely better than the one I bought. It did have the steaming basket though. I think they're made for the pot is has. Wouldn't you need a metal one for a pressure cooker?
https://www.reishunger.de/produkt/1376/digitaler-reiskocher

>> No.17234475

>>17234449
fuck if i know. my 08 cheapo cooker had a plastic one but wasnt pressurized. my current cook4me which i got for around 90 and use as a timed pressure cooker got a metal one.
overall i doubt that shit gets enough atmospheres or c° to fuck up thermal resistant plastics. i dont think pressure cookers go beyond 140c, but iirc due to pressure that counts as higher - no clue whether that even affects inorganic shit water cant faff about inside of.

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my favourite use of a pressure cooker, since slow cooker curry tastes better imo.
fuck waiting 2h, just clean your shrooms, add some water and in 15min you got ready to eat or cook shiitak, as well as their broth that is actually tasty even without additives.

>> No.17234700

>>17233911
>removing the single example of positive representation blacks had

>> No.17234772

>>17234700
No kidding.
Uncle Ben looked like the sort of dude who could take that bag of shitty long grain rice and actually make something delicious from it.
And now it’s just “Ben’s Original”? And Ben is just some faceless ethereal being?
Fuck that. Ben sounds like an insufferable faggot who doesn’t know shit about rice.

>> No.17234780

>>17219046
Do the Asian restaurants use the Zojirushi rice cooker?

I live in Australia, what would be the best rice cooker to buy there?

>> No.17234858

>>17234780
Asian restaurants don’t use the high-end ones with advanced logic and whatnot, because they usually want quantity over quality.
They’ll often use zojirushi brand, but it will be their huge foodservice models which are much more simplified.

The super high-end Asian restaurants that serve amazing rice will usually have someone actively making it in a pot over a fire, which is considered the gold standard of cooking rice and is what high-end rice makers are working toward as the ultimate endgame.

As far as Australia goes, sorry, I have no clue. Australia basically uses European electric/voltage standards, right? This means your options are going to be a lot more limited.
The only reason North America has a lot more options is due to the voltage being damn near the same as Japan. So there’s very little investment involved for Japanese companies to convert domestic spec models to North American spec for export.

Looking up rice cookers on Australian Amazon, it’s mostly brands I know nothing about as far as the more advanced-looking ones go.
“Russel Hobbs” and “Drew&Cole”.

Sorry, wish I could be more helpful.

>> No.17234893

>>17234858
>Australia basically uses European electric/voltage standards, right?
Yep

So the Zoji rice cookers would still be fine just overpriced here?

>Looking up rice cookers on Australian Amazon
It's probably going to be cheap shit like usual since everyone here tries to be cheap wit their purchases

>> No.17234989

>>17234893
>So the Zoji rice cookers would still be fine just overpriced here?
No idea, but I can say the Zoji rice cookers sold in Europe are basically ~10yo models priced at what the current higher-end NA models are.

Or to be blunt, I absolutely love my Zoji, but if I were in Europe I would definitely not pay the prices asked for the obsolete models offered.

>> No.17235040

>>17234989
yeah, that was my xp too in 19 when i spent months picking out a mid-high end cooker. in the end i ended up with the cuckoo since they offered almost the most recent quorean models in yurop.
by now i think chinks also offer high end models here, but i can say nothing about their quality since im obviously not looking for a new cooker.

>> No.17235069

>>17234989
What about this one

https://www.amazon.com.au/Overseas-cooker-tiger-JAX-S10A-Japan/dp/B01N7A5VF9/ref=pd_vtp_2/357-7868449-7742104?pd_rd_w=t38ch&pf_rd_p=3a11c8f0-dadb-4f02-b5fb-00e628c10865&pf_rd_r=8N8Q0VTJQQ3KX98RS30H&pd_rd_r=c3832d49-c1d1-48d8-9c90-f704aeeca157&pd_rd_wg=DqunJ&pd_rd_i=B01N7A5VF9&psc=1

>> No.17235084

>>17235069
i mean, the japs in the reviews are seething. im pretty sure thats not a good sign.

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>>17219052
This is the smallest decent rice cooker I could find. Bought it because I only cooked for myself at the time and I hate storing leftovers.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Q81ZPGV/ref=cm_sw_r_apannp_CczdYn7bFbxyE

>> No.17235696

>>17235667
anon, even my like 6l cheapo from 08 had the minimal portion of one cup. and as a normal not overweight male i can easily eat 1.5 cups, or 2 if im somewhat hungry. and in a medium sized cooker you can make other shit.

>> No.17235764

>>17235069
I’d say fuck no.
A comparable model is $100 at most in Japan or North America.
Honestly you’re probably better off going with a Chinese rice cooker because they’re made closer to your electric standard.
And >>17235084 makes a good point; when the Japanese in Australia are shitting on it, saying it sucks and is lying about being made in Japan, might wanna steer clear.

>> No.17235792

>>17235696
The man was looking for a 2 cup cooker

>> No.17235924

>>17235792
every cooker is a 2 cup cooker. medium sized ones double as steamers, and who the fuck gets a dedicated steamer? steamed dumplings are seriously good shit, my second fav method after the gyoza treatment. im not into fish, but i hear fishfags love them some steam salmon.

>> No.17235940
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>>17235924
>every cooker is a 2 cup cooker
no

>> No.17235945

>>17235940
touche.

>> No.17235954

>>17219046
t. doesn't know how to make rice

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and wala. credit to chef john for ice cream scooper meatballs and their cooking time. balls and gravy were pretty much free form.

>> No.17236214

>>17227535
This nigga don’t wash his pots

>> No.17236227

I love these weekly /rc/ threads because it’s a shit flinging fest between people who think they can cook or rice and people who actually have good rice until the thread gets pruned

>> No.17236297

>>17236214
That’s what the dishwasher is for

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>>17219038
>>17219039
Genuine question here, what's the difference between rice cooker and pic related?

>> No.17236565

>>17236551
Depends on the rice cooker

Some of the more basic ones that just heat from the bottom with no fuzzy logic are basically like an electric pot.

But the higher-end ones that can keep rice warm for 24+ hours? Heating the rice from 3-5-7+ heating elements located strategically to evenly heat the rice far better than any pan on the stove being heated from a burner could do.
Not to mention Fuzzy logic which can be set for multiple different kinds of rice, or specific rice firmness level.

>> No.17236573

>>17236565
I see. So it distributes heat to rice evenly.

>> No.17236585

>>17236573
and more importantly with respect to actual temperature (think cooking in siberia vs australia).

>> No.17236594

>>17236573
it also ensures optimal steaming time, temp, some models can also do steaming trays or do cakes, pancakes, and similar breads and shit.

The Japanese models are also generally designed first and foremost for Japanese (japonica) short/medium grain rice, and NOT various long grain rice verities (jasmine, basmati, etc) that tend to be cheaper "staple" rices.

Though if you're spending $100-300+ on a rice cooker, you're probably fine spending $15-25 for a 5-10lbs bag instead of $5-10.

>> No.17237025

>>17220356
better than bread/pasta/beans

>> No.17237031

>>17227490
small amount of stone fragments in your diet is beneficial for you're digestive tract

>> No.17237041

>>17237025
Bread and potato are both better than rice, but yes all four fillers are trash for the impoverished.

>> No.17237879

>>17237041
>>17237025
Weird, it's almost like people have individual preferences...

>> No.17237894

>>17237041
>le poor people food because starch
It cracks me up how on this board it’s often impossible to tell if a post is underage or just ketofag.

>> No.17237900

>>17237894
>how on this board it’s often impossible to tell if a post is underage or just ketofag.
there are retards, i had a friend in high school who refused to eat bread because he thinks bread is poor people's food

>> No.17238092

>>17219037
Can someone explain to me the rice elitism? I genuinely do not understand why people are so anal about rice. You can literally just boil it and drain off the excess water. No timers, no thinking, nothing. And the rice seems exactly the same as all other rice. I honestly do not get the problem here.

>> No.17238275

>>17238092
Because you're delusional if you think boiled and strained rice is anything like good quality steamed rice

If you REALLY think there is zero difference, you're just telling me your palate sucks ass and you're a tastelet.

>> No.17238290

>>17238092
>And the rice seems exactly the same as all other rice
Since you’re unaware that there are distinctly different varieties of rice, with completely different flavors and textures, I guess it makes sense you think boiling it all like gruel gives the same result.

>> No.17238291

>>17238092
>drain off excess
there shouldn't be leftover water if you're doing it right

>> No.17238357

>>17233969
It's the reason bro.
ALL of this bullshit, from cancelling black culinary icons to renaming an NFL team, all just because some drug addict got loaded on fentanyl and fought with a cop.

>> No.17238381

>>17238357
Plenty of white people fight cops all the time, but they usually don't get killed for it.

Sure if you pull a gun on a cop, white or black you're probably dead, but for some reason unarmed black men are WAY more likely to die from the police than unarmed white men.

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>>17238381
>for some reason

>> No.17238797

>>17219037
I have one and yes it's kind of a meme and I knew that when I got it but the rice it makes is perfect imo

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>>17238092
>literally just boil it and drain off the excess water

>> No.17238831

>>17238275
>>17238290
>>17238291
>>17238803
i hope you faggots get indegistion from taking that obvious bait.

>> No.17240494

>>17219046
>No, the rice you make in a pot on your stove is not as good as what a decent rice cooker makes.
So everyone ate shit rice until the rice cooker was invented? Get real.

>> No.17240510

>>17240494
No, they used earthenware pots and heavy wood lids over an open flame and spent years autistically learning to do it properly

Basic bitch-tier aluminium and steel pots have never been the best way to cook rice

>> No.17240542

>>17240494
In major rice-eating countries, they weren’t using a shitty little pot on a stove.
Get real. And maybe educate yourself a bit.

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>>17240494
Trying to recreate the lost technology of the past with the latest technology.
He's probably referring to the days of cooking with gas stoves and pots.

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In the past, they used heavy wooden objects to get pressure and moisture retention, but that's now being replicated with the latest technology.

>> No.17241279

What's the consensus on using a rice cooker to make pasta?

>> No.17241321

>>17241003
for all the dozens of trashy isekais ive read, amongst all the >muh umami >muh miso >muh soy sauce >muh rice >sugoi oeshi, not one fucking "mangaka" ever drew a weighted semi pressurized rice cooker.

>> No.17241564

>>17219037
Only if you're a chink who eats rice everyday.
Otherwise you should stop being a retard and use a pot.

>> No.17241570

>>17236551
By using a pot you have demonstrated that you know how to boil water, which means you're not a mouth breathing retatd.

>> No.17241584

>>17240542
The fact is that chinks have been eating rice for thousands of years without access to electricity, and yet rice cooker retards like you will insist that cooking rice is this unbelievably difficult task that is only possible through modern electronics.

>> No.17241590

>>17238092
It's little more than weeb trash trying to pass themselves off as cultured.
Which is ironic because every single weeb I've ever known has been painfully ignorant of the culture they claim to love so much.

>> No.17241611

>>17241584
See >>17240990
>>17241003

Rice has never traditionally been made in thin as fuck aluminum/stainless pots with tiny stove top burners.

No one is saying you NEED electricity, but you're delusional if you think a modern stove top burner with standard aluminum/stainless pots is similar to pre-electric traditional rice cooking, you're a faggot retard.

>> No.17241634

>>17241611
Or maybe you're just a dumb fuck who needs overpriced, over engineered gadgets to compensate for their complete incompetence in the kitchen.
Don't worry anon, one day you'll figure out how to boil water like the rest of us.

>> No.17241644

>>17241634
anon, your fishing for (You)'s is absolutely pathetic. i cant even suggest you kys, that would be a mercy compared to your current mental state.

>> No.17241659

>>17241634
>gets btfo after someone points out something obvious that contradicts his entire point
>y-y-yea but you can't b-b-boil w-w-w-water!!!
Wow, you sure showed em

>> No.17241671

>>17241644
This is why I can never stay away from rice cooker threads.
Retards like you can't stop seething, and end up providing me with hours of entertainment.

>> No.17241681

>>17241671
yes anon, i am absolutely seething. and you are definitely not showcasing how much of an inbred retard you are. im sure, if you project just a little bit harder i will turn red from anger.

>> No.17241689

>>17241671
>t. Boils shit-tier jasmine/basmati and pretends that what all rice is supposed to be like

>> No.17241690

Yeah I think so, I eat rice 5-6 nights a week though

>> No.17241701

>>17241681
I encounter a faggot just like you in every single rice cooker thread I've trolled.
The thin skinned retard who pissed away money on a Zoji or some other meme brand, and instead of admitting they made a poor spending decision, they have to defend their retardation to their last dying breath.

>> No.17241720

>>17219037
I guess if you eat rice so often that the convenience is worth it, yeah. As someone who cooked rice in pots my whole life, and then switched to rice cookers due to getting an Asian gf, it's not really different. More convenient sure, but the taste/consistency/ fucking whatever is the same.

>> No.17241723

>>17241701
but i dont tho. i spent 250 on a cuckoo and it isnt much better than my dead cheapo.
i still dont regret it because it gives me no headaches and has been with me for three years of weekly use. for me it has already been worth it because who the fuck cares about 250€ that were spent on a device that still works fine three years later? this isnt even a question of being poor lol.

>> No.17241761

>>17241723
>Admits that the more expensive cooker isn't much better.
>Still thinks he didn't waste his money.
Sunk cost fallacy: the post.

>> No.17241779

>>17241761
im sorry anon, its 9am and im getting sleepier and sleepier while you remain an underaged projecting retard.
the cost got me a well built device that is easy to maintain, works perfectly, shows longevity, and saves me 2 hours of soaking rice before cooking it.
if that doesnt seem worth the price to you? what the fuck do i care, you are retarded anyway.

please fuck off to b and cut your teeth trying to troll there first, you are like a monkey throwing shit. trouble is, shit doesnt travel over tcp ip, so all you get is shit over your screen and keyboard.
seriously, your "trolling" makes this board a worse place for everyone, including you, since you make a complete fool of yourself and either dont notice or ignore it.

>> No.17241825

>>17241779
And we've hit the final stage of butthurt - the effort post/departure speech.
Keep crying you colossal faggot. I'll just keep laughing at you.

>> No.17241861

Mom bought me a rice cooker and I tried using it but it just doesn't make rice the way I like it. I thought it was just a rice cooker thing but since you guys are saying they're good ill break it back out and try to make it work. I assumed it was just another crappy appliance but maybe its a skill issue on my end

>> No.17241985

>>17241861
What is the way you like it? Or more specifically what is it doing that you don't like.

>> No.17243003

>>17241825
The only rice you should be making on the stove top is for risotto.

>> No.17243020

>>17241634
>seething poorfag: the post
The best part is that ancient chinks with stone/iron pots over a fire, and people with modern rice makers, both enjoy much better rice than you.
Whatever rice you make is literally the worst at any point in history.

>> No.17243147

>>17243020
>The best part is that ancient chinks with stone/iron pots over a fire, and people with modern rice makers, both enjoy much better rice than you.
Oh no, a bunch of subhuman chinks are enjoying flavorless empty carbs while I eat real food.
Whatever shall I do?

>> No.17244325

>>17241825
yes anon, people need sleep. you projecting your delusions onto a natural thing is not unexpected. next time i take a piss it will be because you scared me.

>> No.17244347

>>17241861
even my cheapo did rice near perfectly. only variables are soaking the rice beforehand, washing it (which you do no matter the cooking method if its only rice you cook), and water to rice ratio.
the default ratio is 1:1.5, start a cup there and then try other ratios in .1 steps.

>> No.17244376

>>17243147
all you ever really show in these threads is how much you dislike rice, yet continue to pretend you're making top-tier rice on the stovetop at the same time.

Just be honest, you don't particularly like rice. Going on and on about how "subhuman chinks" can't boil water just makes you look retard.

>> No.17244759

>>17244347
uhm, pardon my inebriation. the ratio is obviously rice to water.

>> No.17244772

Personally I say no, but that's because when I cook I don't leave the kitchen so a pot boiling over or cooking too long is not a concern. I also don't eat much rice anymore. If you like the convenience then go for it, bit I'd have a hard time justifying. $100+ purchase for some slightly better rice

>> No.17244849

>>17244772
>$100+ purchase
>100-300
>$
im not particularly trying to shit on muttistan here, but are 300 an actual investment for you?
because im a germanistani neet, and that is not a sum of money i would keep in mind beyond "did your really fuck me over for that?"

>> No.17244868

>>17244849
Not usually.
It just seems that way because most of my countrymen on 4chan are underage and/or unemployed, so a couple hundred bucks is a life-changing amount of money.
To be fair, I would have thought the same when I was 16 or so.

>> No.17244875

>>17244868
i dont think it fair to consider the user majority underage. we are here forever sadly.
couple hundred are only life changing to retards, my shit is well below the germanistani poverty line and yet i feel like a rich man because i struggle to find shit to spend money on, even with monthly amazon orders.

>> No.17244902

>>17244875
>we are here forever
True, maybe I should say “majority of contrarian posters” rather than users.
How often do you honestly feel the need to enter a thread on a hobby board where people are taking about something you don’t own, just to screech at them how stupid they are for buying it?
I’d imagine not very often.

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Anyone try to make Arroz con Leche with a rice cooker? If so how did it turn out?

>> No.17245113

>>17244849
>>17244868

Its relative, I would pay $1200 for a compressor ice cream machine but not $6 for a coffee because I can make the latter at home for thirty cents.

I personally own a $400 zojirushi and use it almost once a day for rice/congee but for a lot of people the baseline cost for making rice is $0 so paying anything seems dumb.

>> No.17245118

>>17244849
i have a good job but dropping 100$ on a "useless gadget" is still a waste of money in my mind. that could be a couple of nice meals eaten out.
20$ or whatever, that's pretty inconsequential, but 50$ is where it becomes "is this actually worth spending money on" territory for me, for some reason.

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>>17219037
its 100% worth it. You don't have to worry about your rice cooking and you can focus on the primary dish. Even if you miscalculate the time to cook the rice stays warm and doesn't deteriorate in the cooker for up to 2 hours

>> No.17245176

>>17245118
Homie you buy a massive bag of dried rice with 130 servings for $20. The rice cooker pays for itself in a month. Gotta start thinking long term with your finances

>> No.17245189

>>17245176
i can cook rice in a pot is what i'm saying. i don't make rice that often, i literally dropped into this thread because some guy said "is 300$ an actual investment"

>> No.17245208

>>17219037
If you have to ask, no.

Because you probably don't eat that much rice.

In our family we have it with every meal, so we have one and it's very useful.

>> No.17245229

>>17245189
Ohhh ok yeah if you aren't making rice multiple times a week don't bother, also my legitimate Japanese cooker was $120. $300 for a cooker is some sucker shit

>> No.17245266

>>17245229
I paid $250 for a mid-range zoji.

Though they don't even sell the higher-end models in the US at all.

>> No.17246390

>>17245148
>YAMAZEN
If you're importing from Japan, why didn't you go with an Iris rice cooker or a cheaper Zojirushi model?

>> No.17246607

>>17245118
anon wtf are you doing? you are Extremely missmanaging your jewgold.. anon, repent.

>> No.17247029

>>17244849
When you make your own money you're more mindful about how you spend it

>> No.17247037

>>17245148
>>17245113
Do 100+ dollars machines make much better rice than a cooker you can buy for 30 bucks?

>> No.17247088

Why would you buy cookware that only makes one thing?

>> No.17247126

>>17247037
$30 rice cookers are literally just pots with a timer. It's like comparing a microwave to an oven.

>> No.17247151

>>17247126
As far as taste and nutritional value, how much of a difference does it make?

>> No.17247164

>>17247151
It tastes and cooks better, but there are diminishing returns, obviously. It's a luxury item. If you regularly eat rice and can afford a nice machine that will probably last you at least a decade, go for it. Even better if you have a family you cook for. If you're not that serious about rice, a $30 one is still nicer than boiling it yourself if you're not concerned about it taking up space.

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>>17247037
For products sold in Japan.
There's no need to buy a rice cooker under $100, you can make better rice with a cheap pot and stove.
If you buy a rice cooker over $100, you can cook rice more consistently and better than with a cheap pot.
From about $250, you will start to feel the difference in taste.

That $250 rice cooker sells for $500 in the US.

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>>17247088

>> No.17247356

>>17247231
>There's no need to buy a rice cooker under $100, you can make better rice with a cheap pot and stove.
I can't (tho i could learn)and I prefer the convenience of the cooker.

>> No.17247408

>>17244376
I like rice, it's just that I don't eat it particularly often. Certainly not often enough to justify buying a rice cooker.
And I'm not a mouth breathing retard so I know how to cook it on a stovetop, a fact which breaks the feeble minds of most of the rice cooker owners on this board.

>> No.17247420

>>17241634
Lol look at the seethe you've caused from the rice cooker fags.
Nice job Anon

>> No.17247527

>>17247420
Lol I know right? He dunked on those fags!

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>>17247527
>>17247420
>>17247408
Yeah totally made these cucks cope and seethe, you're such a based and redpilled chad.

>> No.17247916

>>17246390
Because its a flex.

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>>17219037
>>17219046
>>17236594
I have two questions:
1. I haven't seen an improvement/difference in taste between a pot and cheap rice cookers, I have never had a premium model. But I'm only cooking Basmati.
Would buying an expensive model be worth it for long grains tastewise?
2. Why not cook it with Iga-yaki Donabe clay pots if that is tastewise the best and if one is cooking with gas anyway?

>> No.17248084

>>17248041
1. They're not really made to cook long grain rice, they CAN do it, but that isn't generally the primary design goal.

2. Traditional cooking in a donabe is tedious and difficult to perfect. I personally just don't have the patience.

>> No.17248088

>>17248041
What's a "premium model"?
My £70 panda definitely does better basmati than I can personally achieve in a pot. Texture is easy enough, but the difference in aroma and savouriness is unmistakable.

>> No.17248094

Are cheap rice cooker really supposed to burn rice at bottom? I thought I would get perfect rice but nope. One job and it is not doing it well

>> No.17248107

>>17248094
Some cultures few recipes that specifically call for the bottom to be scorched, but you usually wouldn't be using one of those rice cookers without knowing that's what it does.

I've never had a zojirushi accidentally burn the bottom of my dice. Even the cheap zoji.

>> No.17248112

>>17219037
No.

>> No.17248115

>>17248041
I have two answers:
1. You’re correct in seeing no improvement, because there is fundamentally no difference between a stovetop pot and a cheap rice cooker. The technology is 1950’s era.
If you’re going to *only* cook basmati, I do not believe a higher end Japanese rice cooker with a lot of functionswould be worth your money. However you might want to consider one of the cheaper models that still include “fuzzy logic”, as you could follow the alternate instructions (zoji provides model-specific info on how to adjust the rice/water amounts for various grains). There also seem to be a lot of “how do I make basmati in a rice cooker?” recipes online. It will still give you perfect rice. The decent models also offer nice convenience in the form of timers; it isn’t a delay, but rather, you tell it when you want the rice to be *done*.
Of course it also depends on how often you’d be using it as to whether or not it’s worth it.
2. I actually have two iga-yaki donabe; one is a typical donabe and one is designed for rice in particular.
I enjoy using them for rice when I have the time to give it the attention needed. But that often isn’t the case.
Also, *actual* iga-yaki donabe easily cost as much as a good rice cooker.
But a good cooker has a lot of tech benefits; always perfect rice, intelligent timer (you tell it when you want the rice to be *done*), will literally keep it fresh/warm for an entire day, etc.
consequently, the “endgame” of high-end rice makers in Japan is to produce the same result as a donabe over a flame.
The most expensive models are already incorporating heavy nambu iron pots and using multiple induction coils to replicate the heating of open fire.

>> No.17248121

>>17248084
Why do Japanese prefer short grain rice, am I missing something? I really like Basmati but maybe I'm missing something? Do you have brands you recommend trying out? The supermarket brands are usually mediocre.

>>17248088
>What's a "premium model"?
I would have said anything with a fuzzy lgic/micom from this post >>17219046. "premium" is probably the wrong word, let's say decent. But some anons have stated in this thread that they have seen bigger differences in taste once they have surpassed the 200$ threshold
I only know the cheap one-button solutions for 20-40€ and they always burnt rice and the bottom and were not tastier than rice cooked in a pot, just more convenient.

>> No.17248122

>>17219039
>uncle Ben poverty gruel?
lmao this checks out. ate a ton of cream of wheat as a kid because my family was very poor for the first 10 years of my life

>> No.17248123

>>17219046
>No, the rice you make in a pot on your stove is not as good as what a decent rice cooker makes.
Let's see...

>Rice + water = magic (if rice cooker)
>Rice + water = mediocre (if stove top)

Yeah....sure, buddy.

>> No.17248125

>>17248094
The super cheap one-button rice cookers will often do that, because the way it knows to turn off is by suddenly getting “too hot”. So the bottom bit of rice suffers.

>> No.17248130

>>17248125
I feel like I wasted my money, I don't eat rice enough to warrant 1 rice cooker let alone two so I will probably not replace this one and just keep it at the corner of my kitchen

>> No.17248131

>>17248121
>Why do Japanese prefer short grain rice, am I missing something
Not that anon, but the short answer as to why they “prefer” it is that short grain rice is the native variety.
So it’s what they’ve eaten for centuries, and it’s what their recipes are built around.
It does have a unique texture and good koshihikari has a great flavor to it.
>Do you have brands you recommend trying out?
Are you American? I’m guessing not since you used €.
I don’t know of any actual brands in Europe, but it’s my understanding that some very good koshihikari is cultivated in Italy.

>> No.17248137

>>17248123
>a purpose-built machine using a ton of sensors to make constant adjustments as needed in order to cook something to perfection does a better job than a pot where I turn a knob and set a timer
Yes.

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>>17248137
I bet you bought a juicero as well

>> No.17248150

>>17248141
Of course not, but (you) know the two aren’t comparable anyway.

>> No.17248165

>>17248137
Do you happen to be interested in buying a bridge, by any chance? I got a great one to sell you.

>> No.17248179

>>17248165
There is a big difference between a multi-span modern bridge and the floating bridges used by ancient Rome to cross the Rhine.

>but they both cross water
That's how you sound

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>>17248121
This is such yummy stuff and can be found in most grocery stores esp upscale ones

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RICE COOKER BROS
Do yall ever throw other things like veggies or whatnot in your rice cooker to make like a one pot healthy meal? Is that a no-no? If you do what do you do I wanna know.
pic related is mine

>> No.17248197

can you make crispy 'spanish' rice in a rice cooker? does it come out soggy, is it easy to clean?

can i cook (pre-soaked) dry beans in a rice cooker?

>> No.17248201

>>17248115
Thank you for your detailed answer, they are really helpful. I'm eating rice almost everday so I wouldn't mind buying something better and saving some time.
I guess I will try a cheaper model with fuzzy logic and see how it goes. I checked the Basmati recipes and they are not very difficult/different, I will try them next time.

>the “endgame” of high-end rice makers in Japan is to produce the same result as a donabe over a flame.
Are they succesful in that hindsight or is there still noticable large gap in taste?
Have you also tried cooking with non-Japanese clay pots? The mediterranean cultures also have clay pots for cooking, Spanish, Italians, Turks, Berbers. Would there be a difference in taste if I cook it with electrity/ceran stove instead of a flame?

>>17248131
Thanks, I will try some koshihikari, but it's somehwat more expensive from what I see but I will try it. I can buy it for 4,5€/kg from Italy, so it's not too bad.
Correct, I'm a Euro, so the options for getting a good rice cooker are limited as well from what I have read here.

>>17248180
USA only, but thanks

>> No.17248209

>>17248195
>Do yall ever throw other things like veggies or whatnot in your rice cooker to make like a one pot healthy meal? Is that a no-no?
>pic related is mine
are you sure pic related is yours?
Because what you’re asking is literally what the “mixed” setting on it is for.

>> No.17248221

>>17248201
>Are they succesful in that hindsight or is there still noticable large gap in taste?
They’re getting closer all the time. In Japan, rice makers are like cars. The big manufacturers try to outdo each other every year with their top models for rich people. Their top end ones cost well over $1000usd.
But as with cars, the tech trickles down to cheaper models with time.
>Have you also tried cooking with non-Japanese clay pots?
I personally haven’t tried any.
>Would there be a difference in taste if I cook it with electrity/ceran stove instead of a flame?
Be sure and double-check that you can use those things; most traditional Japanese clay pots can *only* be used with flame; electric heat sources would damage them.

>> No.17248235

>How to Make Mexican Rice in a Rice Cooker

>Dice the onion and mince the garlic. Microwave the onion and garlic for 3 minutes to soften the onion and tame the flavors. ...

WHY WOULD I WANT TO TAME THE FLAVOURS?

t. spic

>> No.17248236

>>17248209
great! I'm asking what you put in yours though, not which setting to use.

>> No.17248243

ive been looking up recipes on making spanish rice in a rice cooker and none of them mention frying the rice for a minute to crisp up the grains.
mother says to fry the rice. will rice-cooker spanish-rice come out soft and mushy?

>> No.17248247

>>17248221
>electric heat sources would damage them.
Oh you might be right, I will check that before.
What do you think of that model?
https://www.domechan.com/en/home/1662-pot-rice-cooker-hario-gnr-150-4977642803855-hario.html
It's from the Italian shop also selling koshihikari and it seems to be a clay hybrid. Why I get a difference in taste compared to a full metal rice cooker?

>> No.17248254

>>17248243
yes

>> No.17248293

>>17248247
>What do you think of that model?
Looks cool, but the manual does seem to specify using direct flame.
>Why I get a difference in taste
Traditional iron pots can give a slightly different flavor than clay. One isn’t necessarily better than the other though.

>> No.17249090

>>17219046
>-No, nobody buys a decent rice cooker because they “can’t cook rice”.
>-No, the rice you make in a pot on your stove is not as good as what a decent rice cooker makes.
maximum buyers remorse, it is okay if you don't have the time or just can't do it.

>> No.17249101

>>17219037
I've got one of those, a rice cooker.

Yeah, it's called a fucking pot with a lid.

It doesn't have a computer or a clock on it, but you know, on the plus side, you can cook anything, not just rice with it.

>> No.17249256

>>17249090
>applying game console logic to other purchases
Do zoomers really? The rest of us just return something we aren’t happy with.

>> No.17249272

>>17219037
Do you cook tice daily or almost daily?

Do you find that you have too little time and/or energy to cook for yourself when you get home in the evenings?

Do you feel insecure about your own skills in making rice well AND you don't feel like you have the time or energy to improve?

Do you have the space for one in your cabinets or on your counter tops?

Do you generally remember to clean your tools right after you use them?


If you answer yes to at least three of these, get one.

>> No.17249288

>>17229458
>Spaghetti
But why?

>> No.17249317

>>17249101
>a pot
>a lid
That poorfag cope.
I have several pots with lids. AND I have two can openers. I can’t even use two can openers at once. That’s just how frivolously rich I am.

>> No.17249371

>>17249256
>The rest of us just return something we aren’t happy with.
that's exactly what I'm saying, you don't do mental gymnastics if all you care about it making good rice and rice cookers are the sanest way.

>> No.17249429

>>17249371
Are you confused or just retarded?

It's not "mental gymnastics" to say No one buys a rice maker because they "cant cook rice"

It also isn't "mental gymnastics" to say "the rice you make in a pot on your stove is not as good as what a decent rice cooker makes"

those are just pure facts, and he's pre-emptively saying them because these threads ALWAYS get inundated with retards claiming they can make PERFECT rice using a shitty aluminum pot on their stove top and anyone who doesn't do the same is OBVIOUSLY just incapable of cooking rice

as evidence, see
>>17249101
>>17248141
>>17248123
>>17243147
>>17241701
>I encounter a faggot just like you in every single rice cooker thread I've trolled
>>17241671
>>17241634
>>17241584
etc

>> No.17249502

What's the smallest amount of rice you can cook in one of the zoji rice cookers and have it turn out good?

>> No.17249513

>>17249502
Depends on the size and setting you use.
Mine is 5cup, and the minimum is 1 cup if I’m just doing white rice.
The 3cup Zoji cookers can do .5 cups white rice as the smallest, I believe.

>> No.17249626

I've heard you can keep rice warm in a rice cooker for days and it'll still taste fresh. Is that true?

>> No.17249634

>>17249626
Most models are 12-24 hours, some go up to like 40 hours.

I don't think any go beyond that really.


It's difficult to keep something at temp without bad shit being able to grow in it. So you're not really supposed to go super long on the keep warm function.

>> No.17249639

>wasting money on a stovetop and frying pan when you can microwave a steak for much cheaper
Actual fucking retards. It's literally the same thing, you're just heating up meat. Imagine being unable to cook and wasting money on a gimmick.

>> No.17249654

>>17249626
No, or sorta, depending on what you mean.

It's edible after a day and a half, but not as good. It also depends on the model, ofc.

Anything after a day and a half I would not trust.

If you think you won't use the rice until after lunch the next day, just keep it in the fridge and reheat it. But, ofc, maybe your keeds are pretty different from mine. I would still maintain that you should not let your rice be in the "stay warm" setting for longer than a day and a half, though.

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About to pull the trigger, lads. Anyone have any thoughts on the NP-HCC10/18 before I order?

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>>17249676
i've been using mine for about a year and it's great, no complaints at all.

>> No.17249715

>>17249676
As pong as you have a normally sized household, go for it.

Good quality, easy to learn, and pretty easy to take care of, too.

>> No.17249718

>>17249676
I don’t have that exact model but I’d say go for it.
Just make sure you get some premium short grain rice to try it out with, like some good koshihikari.
I’d also go with the smaller model unless you’ll frequently be cooking for a family or guests, because it will be able to properly cook smaller amounts.
The zoji website has manuals for all of them and it will have a table of a the smallest recommended amounts of rice per setting for a given model.

>> No.17249729
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17249729

To rinse or not to rinse?

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>>17249676
If it's over $260 (before taxes/shipping) i'd say wait for it to come down in price

It's a good rice cooker, the current amazon price is retarded though.

>> No.17249735

>>17249731
Buying it in Canada, it works out to be about $240USD

>> No.17249740

>>17249729
Zero reason not to, unless you specifically want the cooking water to be more starchy.
If your rice comes in a fairly large bag, it will have “rice dust” simply from rubbing against itself in the bag.

>> No.17249743

>>17249735
Good price.

US amazon has them at like $350 right now

>> No.17249789

I'm 28, eat rice regularly, but have only ever made boxed minute rice in a pot. I'm making the switch.

>> No.17249817

>>17220333
checked

>> No.17249858
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17249858

Personally, I don't understand why people in general are so attracted towards gadgets of any kind, but if you have enough money to throw away on meme shit like a rice cooker and/or are too lazy and/or stupid to learn how to cook one of the easiest foods in human history, then go for it.

>> No.17249866

>>17249858
I hope things get better for you someday, anon.
I’d share my rice with you if I could.

>> No.17249874

>>17249513
Thanks for the answer anon

>> No.17249875

>>17249866
Thanks.

>> No.17250742

>>17249858
>entire thread explaining how rice cookers work
>ignore every single post
>post THEY DON'T EVEN DO ANYTHING like the 20 other NPC retards here

>> No.17251361

>>17249626
I do 48 hours reasonably often but I have the pressure model so it is fully airtight.

Texture changes a bit but IMO its better than fridge and microwave and its zero effort.

>> No.17251468

>>17236551
There is 0 room for error, the rice cooker knows exactly when enough water is out of the rice for the optimal rice, theoretically you could replicate this on your own but it would require a very strong understanding of your pan, the type of rice, how much water you use, the exact heat of your oven, ect.
Why do all that when you can just press a button and let the inexpensive machine do it for you?

>> No.17251523

>>17219037
>Are rice cookers worth it?
Are rice cookers worth the amount they commonly sell for? Hell no. Cook rice in a saucepan with a lid, if you cannot cook rice you have not earned your right to better food.

But you can commonly find them in new condition, usually still in the box, at thrift stores and resale shops for $5 or less.

>> No.17251557

>>17219037
If you eat rice several times a week, yes. If you don’t, it’s probably a waste. Which model you buy also matters quite a bit. I used to have one of those cheap $20 one button cookers and the rice quality was just meh, but recently I splurged and got an expensive Japanese model and the difference is stark. The rice comes out cooked to perfection like in a Japanese restaurant every single time, it’s really great. Also the delayed timer setting is really nice for cooking oatmeal overnight. Just dump in your ingredients, set the time that you plan to wake up at and you have a bowl of fresh oatmeal waiting for you the second you get out of bed.

>> No.17251561

>>17249676
Import two sets from Japan and sell the extra ones.

When I import from the US to Japan, I do it that way to make money for shipping.

>> No.17251563

>>17249626
Yes, I regularly eat my rice up to 90 hours or so. At that point it starts to have a "toasted" texture. It's totally normal up to about 72 hours.

>> No.17251589

desu I never even knew there were short grains of rain

>> No.17251651

the real question is: what's the correct water to rice ratio for cooking? i always hear mixed ratios

>> No.17251680

Anyone buy their rice from Amazon? Looking for good weeb rice.

>> No.17251704

>>17251651
Rice:Water
Jap Rice 1:1.1
Basmati/Jasmine 1:1.2
If you like your rice very soft add a bit more water or cook a bit slower to avoid evaporation.

>> No.17252052

>>17219991
This is the only good answer in the thread. Of course, make sure you're getting one with a stainless steel pot, and not the gay aluminium pot. Just pour in boiling water if you're worried about the longer time it takes, but stainless is easier to clean

>> No.17252057

>>17251523
>you can find good Japanese rice cookers new in box for $5
Lol wow.

>> No.17252066

>>17251680
Just get your weab rice the same place you get whatever weab shit is going with it
Just ask the cashier which one is a good one, don't forget to bow

>> No.17252091

>>17225904
I'm not making breads manually, anon. Fuck that.
>just spend three hours making one loaf, bro

>> No.17252255

>>17219046
>Zojirushi=Tiger=Panasonic
wrong

>> No.17252282

>>17252255
>wrong
Wrong.

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>>17231985
hehe monky

>> No.17254005

>>17253997
I audibly laughed and choked on my $1 bottle of Arizona juice.

>> No.17254029

>>17234586
Clean your kitchen

>> No.17254033

>>17249729
Definitely rinse, always. Maybe you can skip out for long grain rice, but I can't imagine not doing it for short grain race. Too gloopy without a good rinse

>> No.17255239

HELL YES.

>> No.17255841

Is "sushi rice" just how japanese short grain is marketed in the west or is it actually just for sushi?

>> No.17255852

>>17255841
Sushi rice is just short grain rice that is cooked with a bit less water, and then you use rice vinegar when making your sushi to add a bit of additional moisture (and flavor) to the rice.

Anything labeled sushi rice just means it's a rice that is good for sushi. But you can use all sorts of rice, koshihikari, calrose, etc. There isn't a specific "sushi rice" breed

>> No.17255858

>>17255841
Huh?
Sushi rice is sushi rice.
Short grain rice is marketed in the west as “short grain rice”.

>> No.17255939

>>17219052
Zojirushi, I bought one that I think holds max of 3 cups of cooked rice, for a single person like myself it's perfect. It will spurt some water out a bit, but I just angle that towards the sink. Very very good rice, though you should wash it first

>> No.17256045

>>17222599
>>17222599
>If you eat rice less than once a week, get one of the really basic ones, or learn to just cook rice in a pot and get it dialed in yourself.

that's what I did, I got the cheapo zojirushi $40 rice cooker, yes there are cheaper ones out there but mine works great

>> No.17256107

>>17249858
rice cookers genuinely make cooking rice extremely easy and impossible to fuck up. You can't improve upon it, rice cooker will always cook rice perfectly, whereas if you walk away from the stove or have an emergency of some kind you can end up burning the rice easily

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>>17255858
So what breed is this

>> No.17257441

>>17219037
yes

>> No.17257464

>>17238092
It's not elitism for me. I can just put it in the rice cooker and not have to worry about it. I've never been able to do rice well on the stove. I've had it stick to the bottom of the pot. I've had it boil over. I hate having to wash the pot even if it doesn't stick or boil over. My cheap, little rice cooker cooks it perfectly and is easy to clean.

>> No.17257467

>>17256107
They are fucking convenient.
I was able to comfortably and able to make awhole christmas dinner almost effortless thanks to this thing. Made Corn in the steamer part, buttered rice in the bowl of the cooker itself.
Massive sweet potato with sugar glace in the oven, snacks in the airfryer and a w hole load of crostini bread in my panasonic breadmaker.

Seriously since i started living on my own i've enjoyed comfort cooking a lot.

>> No.17257497

>>17252057
Yeah a lot of people get them as gifts and never use them, like almost every kitchen gadget. Why is that surprising? Just because you like something and think it's cool and useful doesn't mean your friend wants one.
Do you have any idea how many gift cards are purchased and never redeemed? Or the amount of food grocery stores throw away?

>> No.17257501

>>17249429
>these threads ALWAYS get inundated with retards claiming they can make PERFECT rice using a shitty aluminum pot on their stove top and anyone who doesn't do the same is OBVIOUSLY just incapable of cooking rice
Yes, and unironically.

Your seething is evidence of your insecurity, fyi.

>> No.17257505

>>17257497
>a lot of people get $200+ rice makers as gifts
No, you’re thinking of shit $20 rice makers and $40 bread makers.

>> No.17257506

>>17257501
(you)

>> No.17257510

>>17257415
An exception that you spent a while googling for.

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>>17257510
I didn't spend any time at all googling for it

>> No.17257535

>>17257510
There is no such thing as "sushi" rice is the point

It's all just short grain breeds, that occasionally get marketed as "sushi" rice despite the fact that particular "sushi rice" is identical to any other Akitakomachi rice on the market.

>> No.17257550

>>17249429
>No one buys a rice maker because they "cant cook rice"
lmao imagine being so retarded you actually believe this.

>> No.17257581

>>17257550
(you)

>> No.17257607

>>17257526
>short grain rice for sushi
Pretty sure they’re just saying what it’s for, not that it’s the type of rice.
I’m going to guess that trying to make homemade sushi might be the only thing some people ever buy short grain rice for.
Which I guess makes sense because >>17257526
and
>>17257415
Are very much “boutiquey” packaging by rice terms.

>> No.17257654

>>17253997
10/10

>> No.17257844

Great post because it reveals how many poor fags that can’t afford rice cookers and the low iq retards that live in the sewers of this godawful board

>> No.17258660

>>17257510
>>17255858
>>17255852
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_rice
>Outside Japan it is sometimes labeled sushi rice