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Why do restaurants have so many options? Wouldn't it be more economical to have like 4 apps and 4 mains and maybe even no dessert instead of these like 10+ options for each, it would also help with turnover quicker decisions being made + staff would be more competent with a smaller menu

>> No.18304766 [DELETED] 
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How do I transfer my cooking skills into getting a gf like her?

>> No.18304769 [DELETED] 

>>18304759
Found the stupid capitalist.

>>18304766
She has AIDS.

>> No.18304770 [DELETED] 

>>18304766
By being rich or having a big dick.

>> No.18304771

>>18304759
I've been to places like you just described, so not all restaurants have so many options
Why does having so many options bother you?

>> No.18304774

>>18304771
I want things running as efficiently as possible, besides restaurants should have a theme like say seafood/mexican/italian etc instead of trying to be a catch all like most of them are

>> No.18304802

>>18304774
>I want things running as efficiently as possible
so, you're always in a hurry when you eat out?
or, are you an environmentalist who hates waste?
or, do you not like choices because they add more decision making or overwhelm you?

>> No.18304807

From a pure culinary perspective, as long as they are executing every single dish on the menu well then there's no problem with having a huge selection. Practically, it often result in a bunch of mediocre offerings. I've never run a business before so I don't know if it's more complicated to manage inventory or anything. I'd imagine it's easy to figure out as long as you're not fucking retarded, but then again you probably wouldn't be in the restaurant business.

>> No.18304813

>>18304802
let's say a law is passed that caps a restaurant to offering 4 appetizers and 4 mains, you don't think the quality of restaurants would drastically increase?

>> No.18304825

>>18304774
>restaurants should have a theme like say seafood/mexican/italian etc instead of trying to be a catch all like most of them are
what if that theme is that they sell a bit of everything?

>> No.18304832

>>18304813
that would make things suck
they would only sell the 4 most popular things, and most people's taste is shit

>> No.18304886 [DELETED] 

>>18304769
lazy, impoverished, blames everyone else for it

>> No.18304890

>>18304759
There are economies of scale. If you are geared up to execute 4 dishes correctly, you're 90% ready to do another 8. Offering more choices draws a wider audience, most people don't eat alone and getting groups to agree on things is harder than jamming a fire extinguisher up your ass. Add in options for kids and picky eaters, those are brain dead easy with no downside.

A lot of places already farm out desserts and bread, because bakers and pastry chefs have little overlap with the rest of the kitchen.

There is a point where it goes bad, and goes bad fast. You figure out you can buy premade meals that are good enough to fool normies, and suddenly you've got 50 options, all of them mediocre or worse. This is very tempting if the bar brings in more than kitchen, boom you're the new Ruby Tuesday's. You sell slop so drunks can justify buying your booze.

When you look at a menu closely, group up what logically fits together. Grilled meat is grilled meat, if you can cook steaks you can offer porkchops and chicken breasts as long as your grill cook isn't a fucking retard. If you read the menu and can't see the groupings, everything is coming out of a frozeen plastic bag from Sysco or worse.

There are specialties, but those offer a lot of easy variety too. Most tex-mex places use the same 7 ingredients in every dish, and it works well enough that people don't catch on. Asian has more ingredients, but everything has similar prep.

You can offer a lot of choices without over extending yourself, but it's say to burn out and sell out.

>> No.18304923 [DELETED] 

>>18304766
>cooking for women
Never gonna make it brah

>> No.18304935

>>18304759
Restricting the menu allows you to optimize materials, process, and personnel.
But if you aren't doing that (ie you are paying for a real chef, fresh ingredients, and a normal kitchen)... then there is nothing to gain from restricting the menu. You may as well make it enormous. Because you already paid for the ability to make all those dishes.

In America most restaurants have hyper-optimized restricted menus where they go as far as to not even make some/all of the menu items and just order them frozen/preserved from a factory somewhere in Des Moines.

That's why we need the word "scratch kitchen" in American English. In other places, that's just called a "restaurant".
So most places eg in Europe will have these huge menus because the restaurant owner doesn't care what the chef is doing, he isn't doing any optimizing tricks so the customer may as well order anything that the chef agrees to try to make.

>> No.18304968 [DELETED] 

>>18304766
I like her Khazar milkers but her surgeon botched her nose job.

>> No.18304982

>>18304759
You'd be surprised at how picky/retarded people are. You do this and on day 1 ur going to have every Karen in the city asking "Excauuuuse me, where is the kids menu? Little Timmy needs the kids menu, he only eats dino nuggies and grilled cheese"

>> No.18305098

>>18304813
>you don't think the quality of restaurants would drastically increase
No I don't. This model could work for very upper class places or ones that use a no waste system. But a normal restaurant would be extremely boring with only one version of each item.at the very least it would need to change its menu seasonally

>> No.18305112 [DELETED] 

>>18304770
As long as you don’t have a literal micro penis being handsome is 100x more important.

>> No.18305122

>>18304759
Took a marketing course and one of the first things they taught was the illusion of choice.

For whatever reason ice cream stores know that vanilla is universally the #1 item on the menu. It's sold to much that stores often think limiting their options to just vanilla will work out. But the realize that people still like the illusion of choice, they'll always go to the store with more options but still buy vanilla. It's ridiculous but that's just how it is.

>> No.18305279

>>18305122
>For whatever reason ice cream stores know that vanilla is universally the #1 item on the menu
I find this hard to believe,I have never and I have never seen vanilla ordered at an ice-cream store. I know it sold since some the tub has scoops taken out but to think it's the number one is somewhat baffling, who whose out to a speciality ice cream store and get a cone of vanilla

>> No.18305356

>>18304890
>You sell slop so drunks can justify buying your booze
ouch
that was me

>> No.18305363

Some restaurants actually do that.
It's usually the management that wants the menu to be absurdly large because they don't have to cook it.

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>> No.18305399 [DELETED] 

>>18304759
nice tits

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>>18304759

>> No.18305407

>>18305279
I think that was probably back in the day when there weren't 500 different flavors offered. But I would best that vanilla is still the most popular of the base flavors that most gets things added to it. Vanilla complements almost everything you can't go wrong with it.

>> No.18305421

>>18304759
>Why do restaurants have so many options?

If you don't like options, stay away from The Cheesecake Factory.

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>>18304759

>> No.18305480 [DELETED] 

>>18304759
>>18304759
I love white women, bros.

>> No.18305482 [DELETED] 

>>18304759
I hate her makeup

>> No.18305601 [DELETED] 

>>18305482
she's not wearing any

>> No.18305616

>>18304759
yes it would be. I have shared many times on here my dream of creating a grilled cheese truck that serves incredible grilled cheese sandwiches and NOTHING else. maybe coke for a drink. it would be called Cheesed to Meat You

>> No.18305644 [DELETED] 

>>18305601
you are very stupid

>> No.18305649

>>18305616
Honestly that's the best idea I have heard in a long time. I could see that working if you had the right hipster location.

>> No.18305774

>>18304759
>mangetout peas
Meme vegetable.

>> No.18305781

>>18304759
If the restaurant has pages and pages of options then it's not a good restaurant.

>> No.18305790 [DELETED] 

>>18304759
Nice milkers

>> No.18305791

>>18305616
But would you have tomato soup? I need tomato soup with my grilled cheese.

>> No.18306048

I have an insane, irrational problem with some type of clothes and this is preventing me from saving and enjoying this picture

>> No.18306053

Mukbang ASMR eating all of the asscream and slurping the booty like pickles

>> No.18306060 [DELETED] 

>>18304766
Natural tits that big, on a blond woman no less, are like a million dollar meal ticket. Why would she settle for you when she could easily be with a successful millionaire. Heck, she could probably charge 500 an hour and guys would be lining up.

>> No.18306065 [DELETED] 

>>18304968
Mate, I'm not sticking my dick up her nose.
In the vag, in the arse, between the tits, or (after fattening her up enough) in the belly, but not the nose.

She could come out swilling manishewitz and calling me a disgusting goyim and I'd still nut on her gut.

>> No.18306078 [DELETED] 

>>18304770
does big dick really matter if you can never bed her?

>> No.18306091 [DELETED] 

>>18306065
>Mate, I'm not sticking my dick up her nose.
When you're balls deep, your going to be face to face so you're going to see the nose a lot, up close

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Good restaurants do that. This is my local Michelin star place in the East Riding of Yorkshire.

Anywhere serving like 30 different main courses is mostly microwaving it out back.

>> No.18306413 [DELETED] 

There's a lot of places like that OP. Nothing you're interested tho, you are surely a scheduled post

>>18305482
>>18305601
>>18305644
Imagine came here to talk about her instead of op topic like reddit

>> No.18306415

>>18306137
This, most good places does like that

>> No.18306424

>>18304813
pure, unfiltered autism

>> No.18307743

Please don't look at her tiddies

>> No.18307749 [DELETED] 

>>18304766
Cook yourself some poison and bank on having better luck in your next life.

>> No.18307766

>>18304759
>Wouldn't it be more economical to have like 4 apps and 4 mains
Depends on what it is.
The owner of the local Thai restaurant (one of the rare real Asian restaurants around), explained to me once that most of his menu is prepared in much of the same way. The cooks just prepare 4 sauce bases in advance then mix spices or cook them in certain ways for different dishes. And they have a lot of choice in sauces, most of their menu is wok cooked meat in sauce.
Combine this with, say, 5-6 types of meat and boom you suddenly have a 40+ lines menu.
I always order the stuffed lacquered quail though, it's delicious.

>> No.18307826 [DELETED] 

>>18306078
Wear tighter pants. You'll bed her.

>> No.18307863 [DELETED] 

>>18304766
stop posting newfag frog is a good start
go to the gym
quit alcohol/drugs
go out and do stuff like hobbies and sports

>> No.18307868

>>18304935
>So most places eg in Europe will have these huge menus because the restaurant owner doesn't care what the chef is doing, he isn't doing any optimizing tricks so the customer may as well order anything that the chef agrees to try to make.

You’d be surprised how restaurants shrink their menus nowadays in Europe. It’s not uncommon to find restaurants with extremely limited offer, ie only 2 choices, nowadays. I guess there are less picky eaters in Europe as well.
Only Asian places and tourist traps have fuck huge menus. There are some high end restaurants with huge menus but there aren’t many of these anymore, as they are mostly old school.

>> No.18308665

>>18304890
There is a lake restaurant near our lake house that has a massive like 4-5 page menu. Everything is fucking awful. I’ve tried to tell them to cut the menu by at least half and maybe try being actually good at making fewer things. They don’t give a fuck. It’s all Sysco fried, canned or bagged garbage. It sucks because it’s so close to our summer house but the food is terrible. Of course it’s slammed every night with idiots eating the goyslop

>> No.18308840

>>18305407
Vanillafag here, it's pretty much always my go to, shits great.

Once I saw a cod flavour icecream for big meme in a place, tried it since they let people have it for free. It was horrible.

Turns out they just make it for the meme because it gets people in the door, they don't charge for it.

>> No.18308908

tavernas or grills in mediteranean countries (greece especially) usually have 8 mains and about 5 sides that they make daily, then you can go into the kitchen to see what looks good that day to decide (instead of reading a book menu). have rarely been disappointed at these places

>> No.18308941

>>18305616
I have literally had a hobo accost me in Philadelphia with the exact same idea while I was waiting for a train. Were you this hobo?

>> No.18308959

americans prefer a frozen assortment, they pay to have people heat up their dinners becuase they don't feel like doing it themselves.

>> No.18309694

>>18304759
>that meal
>ON THAT PLATE
i would just get up and leave. any chef that puts that kind of meal on that kind of plate has literally no clue what they are doing and their food should not be eaten.

>> No.18309868

>>18305791
>Microwaves a can of Campbell's cream of tomato while grilling yo cheese
Comin right up chief.

>> No.18311000

Why would I visit again if I have nothing new to try?

>> No.18311102

>>18311000
If you can't enjoy a quality product and require constant novelty you're probably too young to be posting here.

>> No.18311120

>>18311102
>eats the same slop over and over until he croaks

wow what a life

>> No.18311139

>>18304759
Restaurants in France usually change the menu every day based on what ingredients were available at the market. Only a handful of options for each course, but each made to perfection. Sorry for you mutts who have to wrestle with the cheesecake factory’s menu with hundreds of frozen industrial items.

>> No.18311140

>>18311000
You've never gone back to a restaurant to simply have the same dish from like a year ago?

>> No.18311155

>>18304759
The smaller a restaurant's menu is the better and more consistent all those items will be. It is known. Restaurants with huge menus and dozens of options for every little thing are a big red flag for me.

>> No.18311161

>>18311155
They generally just put ready meals in the microwave and pretend they just cooked it.

>> No.18311168

>>18304774
There famously being only 4 mexican or seafood dishes

>> No.18311171

>>18311168
ESLs need to leave.

>> No.18311187

>>18311171
t. someone that gets confused by big menus

>> No.18311219

>>18311168
you can specialize and focus the menu

Mexican Taco restauran

Entree:
>guacamole
>ceviche
>esquites
>empanadas

Main:
>baja tacos
>suadero tacos
>pastor tacos
>birria tacos

>> No.18311229

>>18311219
The only reason for small menus is you're a foodtruck or a piece of shit hipster wannabe fancy place

>> No.18311278 [DELETED] 

>>18304766
literally just talk to hot girls and be yourself.
it's a meme but seriously, there are girls out there you find super cute who will actually like you a lot if you're not completely fat and retarded. and even then some cute girls like fat retards.
since you cook and have a genuine interest with depth to it, that's a massive plus for literally any human.

>> No.18311317

>>18304759
some restaurants do that. i've seen places that have like 5 items max at any time, and they just rotate them seasonally or change things every once in a while.

>>18305122
that's interesting. i kind of understand that in an intuitive way... i'm surprised vanilla is #1 though desu.

>> No.18311735 [DELETED] 

>>18307863
Alcohol is essential for having a girlfriend and halfway normie friends.

>> No.18311741 [DELETED] 

>>18311735
Not if you're /fit/

>> No.18311758 [DELETED] 

>>18311741
go be gay somewhere else

>> No.18311797 [DELETED] 

>>18311735
Not everyone in the world is degenerate.

>> No.18311885

>>18304759
mexican restaraunts are the worst offendors of this.

go to your local mexican spot and look at their menu. at some point you're going to see pictures of random stuff like french fries, eggs, hashbrowns, a salad plate. country fried steak with a side of guacamole and salad. enchilada plate with a side of eggs mixed in salsa. a very large basic hamburger that is meant for children or people that didn't want to eat mexican food. just all kinds of random ass shit

>> No.18311898

>>18307826
you know, I did get more looks from women when I wore tighter pants

nothing ever went anywhere because I'm autistic and now I'd also have to lose weight, not a lot at least

>> No.18311904

>>18311898
>you know, I did get more looks from women when I wore tighter pants

it's because women enjoy seeing the male physique the same way we enjoy seeing the female physique when they wear crop tops or tight clothing.

>> No.18312050 [DELETED] 

>>18306060
>those tits
>natural

Anon...

>> No.18312368

>>18304813
Every place would sell a hamburger a chicken sandwich a pizza and a mac and cheese (kids menu) or else it would go out of business.

>> No.18312389

The real question is, why do restaurants give their customers options at all? It’s not the customer’s job to satisfy them with delicious food. They need to leave that up to the chef, whose job it actually is. The extreme (egregious and obscene) example are those restaurants where you “build” your dish from the ground up by picking stuff from a gigantic “menu” of ingredients behind the counter while other customers are queuing behind you. STOP doing this. Just take your customers’ money and put good food on their tables. Period.

>> No.18312832 [DELETED] 

>>18307863
>newfag frog
frog and wojak website newfriend :^)

>> No.18312836 [DELETED] 

>>18311741
post body, you sound like a dyel

>> No.18312839

>>18304813
That's just a cafeteria

>> No.18312864 [DELETED] 

>>18312050
Why would a chick buy shitty tiny fake tits?

>> No.18312873

>>18304759
Stop eating at McDonalds you fat cunt.

>> No.18312880 [DELETED] 

>>18304923
Niether will you, incel.

>> No.18312887 [DELETED] 

>>18312880
I fuck hookers in the ass on omegle

>> No.18313073 [DELETED] 

>>18312864
The larger they are the less comfortable it is.

>> No.18313074 [DELETED] 

>>18312050
you can see the veins

stop pretending to be a expert, bet you never held tits in your life

>> No.18313095

>>18305616
seen loads of these in bongland. Always a rip-off

>> No.18313132 [DELETED] 

>>18311278
i'm 5'8" in germany and ugly and pale

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>>18304759
Enough of the coomer bait. I'm trying to do nofap.

>> No.18314117 [DELETED] 

imagine the smell of her vinegary shits after that meal

>> No.18314165 [DELETED] 

>>18313132
grim

>> No.18315650

>>18304759
i never have bad experiences or bad food at restaurants, so works for me. I just don't like small portions at a high price.

>> No.18315668 [DELETED] 

>>18313198
me too, 1 week

>> No.18316383

>>18304759
Dumb thread. If the restaurant had only a few options you would complain about the lack of options. Fuck you. If I ever saw you in real life I would punch you in your fat fucking face. Contrarian ass bitch

>> No.18316390

>>18311219
And unless everyone in a group going out to eat wants tacos, they're not coming into your restaurant.
Even if they all want mexican, odds are any given party would rather go to another mexican place with a menu where everyone can get what they want.

I agree that menus tend to be bloated but when I've got family over, I know we'll be able to hit up the Cheesecake Factory or BJ's and everyone will get to order something they like. There's room for specialized and generalist restaurants

>> No.18316393

>>18316383
Thanks for the bump!

>> No.18317216 [DELETED] 

>>18305601
Male detected

>> No.18317505 [DELETED] 

>>18313074
>you can see the veins

lmao what is that even supposed to mean? Do you think fake tits are just water balloons with a millimeter of skin on top? You do know there's also subpectoral implants these days

>> No.18317546 [DELETED] 

>>18304766
by killing yourself because you're too mentally broken to hit on girls

>> No.18317709 [DELETED] 

>>18304766
Fucking idiot

>> No.18318003 [DELETED] 

>>18304759
What's her @ or name? Think I might know this girl irl.

>> No.18318379

>>18304759
This is actually how restaurants operate in third-world countries

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>>18313198
Give in it feels so good

>> No.18318445

>>18311139
i live in Chile near the coast and it's the same, restaurants just serve you whatever the fishermen brought back, and it's cheap as fuck too
feels good man, fresh seafood is the best, i wouldn't change it for anything

>> No.18318462

>>18304759
I feel like Chinese American restaurants suffer from this the worst. Every one has 3 or 4 pages of shit and my eyes just glaze over reading through it. Especially when they have no descriptions or photos of the dishes.

>> No.18318590

>>18304759
>thai curry
>soda
do americans really

>> No.18318981

>>18318462
They'd be able to condense the menu down massively if it just gave the options as Fried rice "with meat of choice" and gave a list of the meats you add to each one

They basically make everything separate in most circumstances anyway and add the meat at the end anyway, with very few exceptions

I guess they pride themselves on having a lot of options

>> No.18318999

>>18304759
This gives me a good idea. You could make a fast food restaurant where there are no more than maybe four different burgers. The trick is because you know each order will be for one of these for, you can keep some made in advanced (more or less depending on how many customers are coming in), so when a person makes their order it can be filled immediately instead of making them wait for it to be made. It would literally be "fast" food.

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>>18306413
>m-muh 4chan experience!!

>> No.18319487

>>18304759
because that's fucking boring and noone would go to that restaurant more than once or twice.

>> No.18319878 [DELETED] 

>>18304759
Why is that serving wench wasting time eating and not getting me a beer?

>> No.18319964 [DELETED] 

>>18304759
I want to take her out to dinner and then have her breastfeed me afterward as a reward

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>>18304759

>> No.18320195 [DELETED] 

>>18317505
Bro it's just a push up bra and a tight shirt, the tits are real

>> No.18320203 [DELETED] 

>>18304766
Be black

>> No.18320420 [DELETED] 

>>18304759
women really be going out looking like this in public and then get upset when you look at their tits baka

>> No.18320433 [DELETED] 

>>18320420
They're not upset at all when you glance appreciatively. It's only when you gawk for a long period that it becomes offensive.

>> No.18320449

>>18308665
You don't have to humble brag about your faggy summer lake house, nobody cares

>> No.18320496

>>18316390
>hit up the Cheesecake Factory or BJ's
Yeah, OK. Keep believing that.

>> No.18320517

>>18304759
There had to be a nexus between what the chef wants to push as something special and what's never seen before and what people are willing to fund.
Sometimes you want to pay the bills so go off from your target audience.