Dishes that were supposed to be good

[Anonymous No.19148473]

You ever had something that's supposed to be famously good and universally appreciated but just didn't live up to the hype?
For me, it's paella, had it in this one restaurant in spain, it was supposed to be the restaurant's specialty, it cost quite a bit, we were in santiago so they have a great market with great seafood, but literally every bit of fish or shellfish was so overcooked I couldn't enjoy it (except maybe the octopus). I can't say they stiffed me, because it was truly brimming with a wide variety of seafood, but it was not very tasty.

[Anonymous No.19148516]

nobody cares

[Anonymous No.19148532]

>>19148473
>Santiago
>paella
Congrats, you stepped inside a tourist trap.

[Anonymous No.19148553]

>>19148516
Don't listen to him OP.

For me it's usually the sushi that people hype here in my city. Almost 9 out of 10 times they source the very same ingredients as any other mediocre sushi bar in my city, it's just that they use fancy square and rectangle plates, or drizzle the very same lackluster eel sauce on fried rolls with fancy drizzle patterns. Or they'll plop an orchid on the plate and call it a day. It's all so bland and monotonous. And people go crazy for it here.

However, every now and then I run into a sushi bar that puts care into sourcing quality ingredients at the fish markets, or they make their own miso soup in house. Those places are worth it.

[Anonymous No.19148558]

>>19148532
where's good paella? they had really good seafood in other restaurants

[Anonymous No.19148560]

>>19148516
I care.

And for me, crayfish.

I don't understand why people like them, unless it for the social aspect.

But again, there a bunch of food that can be done for the social aspect and are more fulfilling then crayfish

[Anonymous No.19148561]

>>19148553
>It's all so bland and monotonous
Yeah, It's fish and rice...

[Anonymous No.19148597]

>>19148553
That pic looks like terrible sushi.

[Anonymous No.19148602]

>>19148558
>where's good paella? they had really good seafood in other restaurants
Valencia. Catalonia and Andalucia are a hit or miss. Look for the most grimey coastal restaurant with loud boomers. The reason everything else you liked in santiago is because they frown upon paella, its not their regional dish. In Spain they have a habit of shitting on each other's regional cuisine out of spite, its a never ending culinary culture war.

[Anonymous No.19148647]

>>19148597
it's what I was going for, I googled it

[Anonymous No.19148723]

>>19148602
dang, i also visited alicante but we just ate some good pizza and here: https://abarrotebar.com/
we'll try again next time, spain was a fun trip

[Anonymous No.19148859]

... paella it's no more a dish than "sandwich" is. wtf sort of paella in wtf sort of style did this restaurant serve at you?
Anyway, for me, it's most Japanese food but especially sushi. Subtlety it's for literature and acting, not food. That's just blandness. Britbong food is just as bland yet everyone shits all over it while singing the praises of Nipnong good.

>>19148560
I really love them but i can understand someone not enjoying them. Not much meat for a while lot of work. Doubly so if you're the poor motherfucker cooking then.

>>19148553
I'm with you. As said above, I dislike all sushi except my aunt's. I forgot what it was called but when i described it on here before, some ween was like "oh yeah, it makes sense that your aunt makes sushi like that cuz the part of grolious Nippon you said she's from does it like that and it's called kwakiserpipiku."
Her sushi vinegared the fish rather than the rice and pressed it and the rice together using a weight. Good shit, man.

[Anonymous No.19149154]

>>19148516
You came to /ck/ to shit on someone for what? Reddit points? Edgy points? You want this thread to die on this dying board or what? Apologize to him right now!

[Anonymous No.19149166]

>>19148473
B O R S C H T
O O R S C H T
R R R S C H T
S S S S C H T
C C C C C H T
H H H H H H T
T T T T T T T

[Anonymous No.19149180]

>>19149166
This is highly dependent on (1) the season, and especially (2) the housewife who made it. And if it's not homemade I wouldn't even bother. (There are certain foods, like meatloaf, you make it at home and it's comfy/nostalgic, but who orders it from a restaurant?)

[Anonymous No.19149219]

Sea urchin. It just tasted like salt water pudding

[Anonymous No.19149229]

Caviar. Started as a busser at a fancy seafood restaurant and that was a part of the tasting. I don't understand it.

[Anonymous No.19149244]

>>19149229
>filtered

[Anonymous No.19149264]

>>19148473

>a ton of rice with sea bug body parts and hard shells

I mean to me the thing doesn't even look appealing Lol

[Anonymous No.19149267]

>>19148859
>Subtlety it's for literature and acting

How is something like wasabi "subtle"?

[Anonymous No.19149277]

>>19148560
The fact that you're calling crawfish "crayfish" makes me entirely unsurprised that you don't like them.

[Anonymous No.19149314]

>>19148473
>i tried a thing once and can assure that it's not as good as everyone says
Did you ever consider you just had a bad experience? I remember being Alicante and walking along the waterfront and probably half a dozen identical places had a dude standing outside trying to get anyone passing by to come in, and they were all empty but had "paella" listed right at the top of the menu. Almost as bad as Greece, or even an Arab country. Some places are just tourist traps.
>>19148553
>It's all so bland and monotonous.
Because you're ordering the $15 "special" rolls. It doesn't even matter if they're using good ingredients with those. When you put 3 different kinds of fish inside a roll with another one on top, with cream cheese and asparagus and lemon zest, and then it's also deep fried, drizzled with three different sauces, before an avocado is fanned out over the top and it's covered in slivered scallions...it all just tastes the same. You should sit at the bar and talk to the sushi chef. When I get dragged to the latest "trendy" place I always order a tekka maki and miso soup first, and then decide how much money I'm willing to spend there. If those two things aren't good, nothing is going to be.

[Anonymous No.19149329]

>>19149229
I typically like fish roe, but the couple of times I had actual caviar I didn't get it either, or at least understand the luxury status it has. Foie gras on the other hand...oh boy. That shit is a literal gift from the gods and shouldn't even exist in this world.

[Anonymous No.19149637]

>>19148473
I can't stand burgers that use brioche buns, they're too sweet and too buttery for a dish which is already going to be pretty rich and to top it off the butter inside the roll melts and becomes soggy, it's an absolute turn off for me if I see it on the menu but everyone froths at the mouth for it, I think they're idiots.

[Anonymous No.19149680]

>>19149637
>the butter inside the roll melts and becomes soggy

use less butter then. easy solution

[Anonymous No.19149702]

Bolognese. The idea of it still tastes better than the actual sauce.

[Anonymous No.19149740]

salmon in general but particularly smoked salmon.
Fish is not suppose to be fatty.

[Anonymous No.19149771]

>>19148473
That was your first time having paella? Paella is good but isn't close to the best dishes. Don't believe people when they hype up stuff. 99% of people don't know what good food is. People think Domino's pizza is good. So temper your expectations.

Me? I'll take average paella any day, but it doesn't compare to a great ribeye with a great cab.

[Anonymous No.19149779]

>>19148473
Pho.
I tried it several times, in Da Nang and Nha Trang both, in joints mostly frequented by locals and it was still a mediocre, bland noodle soup. Even the shittiest ramen I've had in Japan was much more flavourful.
But this isn't just me being a weeaboo (which I am, admittedly), but every other noodle dish I've had there was better.
My quang? Great.
Cao lau? Awesome, since I like thick chewy noodles a la sanuki udon.
Bun cha? Superb, the broth (sauce?) was delightful.
Bun rieu? Not quite incredible but still very good.
And most importantly, banh canh cua was just outrageously good. The thickness of the broth might make it a bit of a hit or miss but for me it was a definite hit.

[Anonymous No.19149790]

>>19149702
How do I begin to taste ideas

[Anonymous No.19149800]

>>19148473
Crab soup.
Tasted like low tide on a hot day.

[Anonymous No.19149808]

>>19149800
Alright but how do you feel about clam chowder?

You know what, a big bowl of clam chowder and a cold diet coke would just slam right now. Feel like there should also be some 3rd item but I'm not sure what that would be

[Anonymous No.19149812]

>>19149637
the taste of the brioche complements the burger

[Anonymous No.19149817]

>>19149637
This.
I miss sesame buns, it's all either squishy greasy brioche or "stone oven baked whatever" that's so hard/tough that it needs 360 degree clamping to or the content of the burger shoots out every side.

[Anonymous No.19150192]

>>19148473
I understand why a lot of people wouldn't like paella that much, personally I prefer any other seafood rice that isnt paella, like squid ink rice thats like a black paella i like eating it with a bit of ali oli in every mouthful, my fav rice is a rice they make in baleares islands that is a fish stew called bullit de peix and they use the stock from the stew to make a rice, so you eat the stew with the rice.

That said, i wouldnt order a paella anywhere that isnt in the valencia province, because thats where paella is from and where they know make how to make a good paella, if a friend males a paella sure, but ill only order a paella if i visita valencia

[Anonymous No.19150194]

Not exactly the same thing but one year I spent all of thanksgiving making dishes. The full turkey, like 3 sides, some homemade bread, and some other shit too like drinks. Probably took me 9-10hr in total on and off.

Everything came out fine, like 5/10 fine. It wasn't bad, it was good even, but not amazing or great. Just a "normal" dinner. I was a bit disappointed in myself.

[Anonymous No.19150364]

>>19149702
Alot of people can't make a good Bolognese sauce, most people at home just throw minced meat and jar sauce together, and most restaurants make theirs underspiced and too watery

[Anonymous No.19150372]

>>19149154
OP created this thread to shit on paella
fuck you

[Anonymous No.19150373]

>>19148473
Jambalaya is good but underwhelming. Would rather have lobster boil.

[Anonymous No.19150388]

I've eaten paella a couple of times in restaurants and they were always mid at best. But I've made paella (Valencian) many times myself and it's one of my best dishes I can make desu. Easiest dish to impress people with. You just gotta use enough olive oil and lots of salt.

[Anonymous No.19150464]

>>19148473
Seafood paella is not true paella. That's probably why. The dish wasn't invented with seafood in mind, at all.
It's like using fried chicken or steak for Sushis. Same vibe.

[Anonymous No.19150467]

>>19150194
Happens to me all the time when cooking stuff for the first time.
I made sesame seed crusted fried prawns the other day and it was just "ok/good"

[Anonymous No.19150472]

>>19148473
>food was cooked wrong at a tourist trap
>WHY WOULD TRADITION DO THIS TO ME!?!?!?!?, BURGER KING PLS SAVE ME!!!!

[Anonymous No.19150488]

>>19148473
Paella is great as long as you go to the right spots. Pretty much with anything, no? I mean, you can give someone Pizza Hut pizza as their first experience and they will be underwhelmed.

[Anonymous No.19150595]

>>19150364
I've gotten close to tasting good after I cooked it forever. I guess I just need to go to a really good Italian restaurant to taste it.

[Anonymous No.19151070]

>>19150595
It's only in the past couple of years Iv started making really good Bolognese, the key is really getting the right amount of milk in it, I also make sure to use half minced beef and half minced bacon, and simmer that shit for about an hour covered

[Anonymous No.19151315]

>>19149779
You are right, Pho is always more expensive when compared to other dishes so in recent years vendors have to cut the ingredients and add msg too much that it becomes so bland

[Anonymous No.19151415]

>>19149267
>all japanese food has wasabi
lol

[Anonymous No.19152764]

>>19149314
>When I get dragged to the latest "trendy" place I always order a tekka maki and miso soup first, and then decide how much money I'm willing to spend there. If those two things aren't good, nothing is going to be.

I just look at the fish they have at the bar and what they are pumping out. The fish tells me the quality of the ingredients and the other dishes show me the chef attitude there.

Most places I've eaten sushi at are mid-tier. Conveyor sushi is always low-tier, as is any "buffet" place. So I get why anyone, especially in the US, would be disappointed by sushi hype. I have only eaten at high-tier sushi places 3 times, and all three were memorable experiences, but 2 were super fucking lucky for me to find. Well, there is a St Louis place that is middle-high, they have great bluefin tuna. But yeah, great sushi is hard to come by in the US. Most are low quality imitations because burgers don't know any better.

[Anonymous No.19152775]

>>19149779
Huh. I've always enjoyed pho, but it is probably better stateside where beef is easier to come by. It does make sense that ramen would beat it though, it is a more complex soup with more variety. Pho is just beef broth with noodles, beef cuts, onions, and aromatics.

[Anonymous No.19152779]

>>19149800
>crab soup
The fuck is that? That just sounds terrible. Cream of crab is fantastic, basically clam chowder but with crab. Maryland crab soup is mid, its not as good as cream of crab, but it works.

[Anonymous No.19152788]

>>19149702
I've had it on a cruise ship and loved the hell out of it. Since then I have made a pretty good approximation of it, though admitantly not as good. Both the broth and tomato variety. I think because I cheaped out and didn't do the meat variety it wasn't as good.

Maybe you need to get good?

[Anonymous No.19152790]

>>19150464
>the dish wasn't invented with seafood in mind, at all
>it's like using fried chicken or steak for Sushis
I hate people who say shit like this. "THAT'S NOT THE ORIGINAL INTENTION!" "IT WAS INVENTED IN THIS PLACE UNDER THESE SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES!" "YOU'RE ALL DOING IT WRONG!!!" Nobody cares. That's what most people know as paella and you're being disingenuous if you pretend that's not the most popular way it's served in Spain. Nobody gives a shit that your grandma made it with rabbit and frogs legs or whatever.

The more accurate sushi analogy would be using salmon in sushi. Salmon wasn't used in Japan before the 1980's, but it's one of the most popular types of fish to use in sushi around the world, including Japan.

[Anonymous No.19152804]

>>19152764
>look at the fish they have at the bar and what they are pumping out
Yeah, the "dragged to the latest trendy place" part was meant to imply that I'm sitting at a table with a group, rather than just going to the bar. I've had some really good sushi in the US, but it seems like it's getting harder and harder to find.

[Anonymous No.19152807]

>>19148473
>rice and bugs, literally peasant subsistence staples
>famously good luxury food
You fell for it. I'd rather have jambalaya. It's packed with flavor and at least it makes no pretensions about just exactly what it is: Heavily-spiced sloppa for Caribbean peasantry.

[Anonymous No.19152814]

>>19152807
Who the fuck told you that rice and bugs was a "famously good luxury food"? And why did you believe them? Where you in Cambodia or something, and maybe someone was just fucking with you?

[Anonymous No.19152854]

>>19152814
Mutts who advise buying the world's most-expensive spice for the express purpose of seasoning this one indulgent cereal-grain dish from the world-capital of ignorant touristy shit

[Anonymous No.19152869]

>>19152854
>the world's most-expensive spice
> the world-capital of ignorant touristy shit
Lol. What are you even talking about? What spice and what country are you talking about? OP asked what famous dish didn't live up to the hype and you said you ate bugs and rice. I know you're just making shit up, but please, continue.

[Anonymous No.19153134]

>>19152869
Im not the anon you are attacking but Its saffron you insufferable cunt

[Anonymous No.19153143]

>>19153134
Saffron is often used in paellas and curries, ha, it seems you are the ignorant one

[Anonymous No.19153149]

>>19153134
No shit. I was just fucking with that guy because I hate shitposters who come into every thread and start screaming about bugs or soy or seed oil out of nowhere. I also specifically asked about the country and spice because anyone who thinks Spain is the capital of tourist traps and saffron is some expensive luxury item probably doesn't own a passport or cook.

[Anonymous No.19153183]

>>19153149
Spain is the second most-visited country in the world, and tourism presents a larger proportion of its GDP than #1 France.
Nobody takes out a loan to buy saffron, but per unit it's expensive and relative to its actual utility, it's obscene. The trope of someone buying it exclusively to make paella as a status-signifier with no clue what else to use it for is sitcom-fodder.

In the end, it's rice (the prototypical peasant-food) and shellfish (also peasant food, literal insects from the sea with a patina of luxury) purchased by OP at tourist-trap prices. He fell for it.

[Anonymous No.19153184]

>>19152807
>>19152814
>>19152854
Why the fuck do you call seafood bugs?
And why the fuck do you insist its poor ppl food? Implying its cheap?

Seafood may have been eaten by the poor who went in the sea to catch it, nowadays it is expensive to serve, good seafood is fresh seafood, pricey seafood is fresh AND rare.

And the bugs you are referring to are crustaceans

You on idiots calking seafood bugs on the other hand are ignorant AND poor

That or you have a baby palate thats offended by seafood

Wah wah

Go cry to your mama, little baby palate

[Anonymous No.19153191]

>>19150194
>The full turkey
Therein lies the issue. The greatest open secret the food industry never admitted is that turkey is a shit meat. The wild one is boot sole-tier tough, needs either pressure cooking or braising for hours to be edible, while the domestic variety has too little fat, and too much breast meat.
Fattened goose is where it's at.

[Anonymous No.19153193]

>>19153149
I realize now sorry about that

[Anonymous No.19153196]

>>19153149
Me too bud

[Anonymous No.19153197]

>>19153183
>per unit it's expensive and relative to its actual utility, it's obscene
Like fucking clockwork. Everything you typed out is wrong. It's also amazing that you used the fact that Spain is poorer than France as some kind of argument that it's more touristy. Pro-tip: if a country has a fucking Disneyland that country is probably going to resemble Disneyland more than a country that doesn't.

[Anonymous No.19153198]

>>19153184
>>19153197
I'm still not going to eat zem.

[Anonymous No.19153202]

>>19153198
You might as well say you're never going to suck a trannies dick. We all know you can't stop thinking about it, but it's still completely irrelevant to the thread and you're still the only one talking about it.

[Anonymous No.19153215]

>>19153202
Actually you got me there, dead to rights. Honestly I can't believe I haven't yet, and I feel like I might be rapidly aging out of the era of my life where I still could.

[Anonymous No.19153731]

>>19153215
It's toothless!

[Anonymous No.19153736]

>>19149277
that's the proper term, you fuckwit

[Anonymous No.19155264]

>>19151070
>milk
>an hour
No milk and i'd say a decent bolognese takes at least 3 hours but 4 is better. Also I do like a bit of smoked bacon in mine but for the bulk half minced beef and half pork mince is right. A third minced veal is also acceptable but not readily available in my area.

[Anonymous No.19155400]

>>19148473
Serving any shellfish or crustaceans with any part of the shell on the plate when served to you is a complete meme. I didn’t pay you to do your prep work for you. Sure have the shells in there when it’s cooking for extra flavor but get rid of that shit before it gets to me. I want to be able to scoop up a big bite of paella with whatever is mixed into the dish without having to dodge things I can’t eat.

[Anonymous No.19155449]

>>19155400
yeah i agree i don't want have to de-shell the crab or lobster or prawn myself to get to the meat you should be doing that

do you also get your customers to scale fish as well?

[Anonymous No.19155468]

>>19150194
The fucked up thing about Thanksgiving is you only get to practice once a year.

[Anonymous No.19155481]

>>19153736
If you're getting it from people who call it that then you're not getting proper food. Retard.

[Anonymous No.19155903]

>>19155400
all shrimp dishes besides peel and eat shrimp that still has the tails on
fuck no.

[Anonymous No.19155935]

Any pesto sauce pasta
Shit is fucking expensive and the taste is way too subtle for how many calories it is
Just give me a marinara or something

[Anonymous No.19156033]

>>19148473
It's better with chicken, pork and rabbit than seafood

[Anonymous No.19156384]

>>19148473
Tenderloin. Paying a premium for worse texture and less flavor than an average cut of ribeye.

[Anonymous No.19157529]

>>19155264
You have to add milk for it to be Bolognese otherwise it's just ragu, and I'd prefer to slow cook it for longer but can't spend all day on it so an hour is usually enough, Iv tried with pork mince but I think it's better with minced bacon (traditionally your meant to use pancetta but shortcut bacon is cheaper and close enough)

[Anonymous No.19157548]

>>19153184
The "crustaceans are sea bugs" is a psyop to try and normalise the idea that we've been eating bugs the whole time, retards that that other anon repeat it thinking they are trolling people but in reality they are just helping to normalise the idea that it's fine to eat bugs

[Anonymous No.19157584]

>>19157548
>you mean to tell me these creatures that look like bugs are bugs? PSYOP!!
Arthropods are arthropods, anon. Most people, i.e. actual people, are able to connect the obvious dots as kids.

[Anonymous No.19157615]

Raw oysters, it's like a chewy watery cumshot that drained through pea gravel

[Anonymous No.19157625]

>>19148473
>paella
The fucking shellfish directly in the rice is so offputting to me. You have to pick out the shells with your hands and dig the rice out of them and then use a fork to eat the rice you were just picking around in. The small fragments that inevitably break off from the edges of mussel shells end up in the rice. You have to pick through the shells that ended up empty during cooking like you're digging through trash.
Reminds me of brown cultures where they eat rice with their hands. What's worse is that paella is often served as a share dish so everyone at the table is expected to dig in with their hands, exactly like communal dishes in India or Afghanistan. Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.19157733]

>>19157584
a bug isan insect in the group Hemiptera, your conflation that crustaceans are bugs only helps the psyop that we have always been eating insects so eating actual insects is fine, crustaceans are not insects, crustaceans are more distantly related to insects than humans are to frogs

[Anonymous No.19158150]

>>19157529
Nonsense. Ragu (It) from ragout (Fr) means to reinforce your appetite. It's a first course. The end. There's no meat, no milk, no tomatoes, no fairy tales, no rainbows and no pots of gold either. 20 minutes tops. Everything else is superstition from people who only speak one language.
>>19157584
Fuck off Boris. You can't cook. Even your Russian Salad is Belgian to begin with. FACT.

[Anonymous No.19158160]

>>19149740
the only bad form of salmon is croquettes

[Anonymous No.19158180]

>>19158150
You're wrong, and Bolognese should have milk in it, if you haven't tried making it with milk then you're missing out

[Anonymous No.19158254]

Pretty much everything from Italy, all of it is overrated

[Anonymous No.19159006]

>>19158254
peasant. two days ago i made a carbonara so good that i cried

[Anonymous No.19159025]

>>19156033
thats valencian, right?
i made it once, with the lima beans and snails
was good, but im just a sucker for fishy tastes, so id go for seafood paella next time

[Anonymous No.19159277]

>>19148560
>>19149277
>calling crawdads "crawfish" or "crayfish"
ngmi

[Anonymous No.19159285]

>>19149637
the sweetness and softness of the brioche complements the burger

[Anonymous No.19159290]

>>19149702
>shit ingredients
>no wine
recipe for disaster

[Anonymous No.19159753]

>>19150372
Is your name Paella? Get a fucking grip.

[Anonymous No.19159882]

>>19149779
>Pho
>In fucking Da Nang and Nha Trang
Lmfao, you either eat it in Ha Noi or Nam Dinh or don't bother

[Anonymous No.19160395]

>>19158180
sorry, that looks like trash. add some vegetables and use non-garbage cuts of meat ffs