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19673270 No.19673270 [Reply] [Original]

proof that the West clearly ain't that into soup.

>> No.19673291

chinese "soup" is mostly broth
there's no way you could eat a chunky soup, stew, or chili with one of those ceramic spoons

>> No.19673292

>>19673270
It's different kind of soup you donkey

>> No.19673314

schlopp schlopp schlopp schlopp schlopp

>> No.19673321

>>19673291
Why not???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>> No.19673326

>>19673270
bugmen drink water with spice and call it soup. hyperborean gigachads consume thick hearty stews. take your wumao bullshit to another board, faggot.

>> No.19673339

>>19673291
>>19673326
These two assholes have it right. Asian soup spoons work best for thin soups with small objects in it, or larger objects eaten separately. Thick stews or soups with large chunks need a western spoon. That being said, I have both.

>> No.19673347
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19673347

>gaijin still haven't discovered the electric spoon

>> No.19673349

>>19673270
i had to eat a yoghurt with one of those asian spoons the other day and it sucked, was difficult to do

>> No.19673359

>>19673291
>>19673326
i would like to hear about your physical/mental disabilities that prevent you from eating a thick soup with the left. please share with us

>> No.19673361

>>19673270
>spoon :/
>spoon, Japan :o

>> No.19673367

>>19673359
It's basically a smaller bowl and if you load it up with chunks of beef or whatever you're going to either have to pick them off with your mouth or unhinge your jaw to fit it in. And the angle is wrong anyway because the Asian spoon is for slurping from.

>> No.19673368

>>19673359
show us a video of a person sticking one of those in their mouth

>> No.19673387

>>19673367
>>19673368
tiny mouths, gotcha
you are aware you don't have to insert the entire utensil into your mouth to consume food off of it right? if your stew is so thick it no longer behaves as a liquid and I'd suggest adding a little water to pull it back from gruel. but that's just me personally, i guess if you like your stew that thick its reasonable to use a smaller spoon

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19673395

>>19673368
you are meant to slurp of spoons

>> No.19673409

>>19673387
Go ahead eat some borscht with the chink spoon if you want. Might as well eat your ice cream with it too, since you're so much more capable than everyone else I'm sure you can manage it.

>> No.19673423

>>19673409
pretty sure this thread was about soup, not ice cream

>> No.19673427

>>19673423
So you admit the spoons have different and specific uses?

>> No.19673445

>>19673427
no

>> No.19673457

>>19673445
Wasn't expecting such a flat denial. You sure squirmed out of that one, didn't you, ya little weasel?

>> No.19673461

>>19673291
I agree on the chilli, chinese spoons even suck for congee, but I can't think of any regular situation where you're using a chinese spoon and aren't also using chopsticks in the other hand for the chunky bits.

>> No.19673466

>>19673445
KEK this nigger
10/10 response

>> No.19673576

>>19673270
NGL I keep one of these in my spoon drawer. Great with soups! Shit for ice cream.

>> No.19673588

>>19673427
>So you admit the spoons have different and specific uses?
yes, my original post said nothing to the contrary, just that you can eat stew with a chink spoon

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19673616

>spoon
>asian spoon
I like Asian food but it's undeniable that weeaboos and changs absolutely ruin the public enjoyment of it. You fuckers are the reason why shit like Kewpie is overpriced garbage.

>> No.19673642

>>19673616
kewpie is expensive if you buy it at fred meyers like some retarded redditor gaijin
buy it at an asian grocery and you'll pay asian prices

>> No.19673643

Oh I sure do love how it's impossible to get the last bit of soup with an Asian spoon because of the flat bottom!

>> No.19673644

>>19673270
i dont eat soup because i'm not poor

>> No.19673867

>>19673270
Yeah, Lemme eat rice with pic rel on the left you Chinese bogoid gook slant eyed.

>Western spoon for the win.

>> No.19674044

>>19673395
>>19673347
So are sex toys just illegal in whatever countries made this or something?
>>19673270
adding to other anon's points that its annoying af to hold the bowl to your mouth and scoop the soup in with the left/'asian' spoon

>> No.19674263
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19674263

>>19673387
>>19673270

In western etiquette it is considered impolite to sip soup from a spoon. The western spoon is designed to allow the user to pour the entire contents of the soup directly into their mouth. One fluid motion is all that is required to go from bowl to mouth.

The eastern spoon is designed to be use din the opposite manner. The eastern soup spoon is designed to allow the user to sip the broth. Then the user utilizes chopsticks or directly drinks from the bowl when they want to consume the larger materials in the soup. However, these actions are considered extremely rude in western dining etiquette.

>> No.19674337

>>19674263
anon, you can drink without slurping noises from the left spoon if you aren't a bumbling retard

>> No.19674396
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19674396

>Japanese food, you know... it's highly overrated... in my opinion. Michelin went there and handed out 3 stars like they were popcorn, and why? Because of a morbid fascination with the Orient? It's highly illogical, when I earned my 3 stars there was a set method to reaching 3, you had to have put out high quality food and a high quality service for years on end before you could achieve the 3rd and you know something, by just handing out 3 stars everywhere these days all they have done to continue to damage their reputation, they are after all, a tyre company first and foremost and I say, stick to tyres. I have spoken to Japanese chefs in Japan, which I have been to, and you know something? All their best chefs, in my opinion, were all classically trained in the French method, they are Chefs who learned from the great men of France, not from the Japanese. What I don't like however is when I go to a Japanese restaurant, high quality restaurant, supposedly fine dining and I go in, I am seated and the man there is explaining the food I am about to eat, how to eat it, why it is supposed to be amazing, no choice just his however many course 'experience' and spending more time trying to sell me on his dish than having me eat it. That's not food... that's not dining. In my opinion, the food should speak for itself, the customer should have the choice in what they wish to eat and I like a big portion, who doesn't? Cuisine should be simplified not a big song and dance. Good food. Done right. It's that easy. Nothing upsets me more than having a dish presented so pretty but the taste... bland. And you know something? Let's stop with this umami business. Umami, what does it mean? Savoury, are we going to pretend the Japanese invented savoury food? Really? People have been eating food for thousands of years and couldn't explain the taste until the Japanese invented a word? Nonsense.

>> No.19674407

>>19673270
I prefer the chink spoon for almost all use cases. Stews, soups, ice cream, mac and cheese. I don't see the big deal.

>> No.19674469

>>19674396
How can he be so pretentious but such a plebeian at the same time. He's like that judge on MasterChef US who doesn't cook, but his mom has restaurants.

>> No.19674477

>>19674263
>eating single grains of rice at a time with chopsticks
Am I doing it right anonsama?

>> No.19674563

>>19674469
He's 100% right though.

>> No.19674564

>>19673270
They're right, western spoons are better for things like jam or dessert but tablespoons kind of suck for soup.

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19674576

>asians
>using a spoon
am I being memed?

>> No.19674610

Anyone that slurps should be skinned alive and then boiled in soup. The heat of the soup kills the degenerate.

>> No.19674635

>>19674610
slurping, like making a sound when you spit, is natural. white people are afraid of this? they're so bored they have to make a rule?

>> No.19674728

>>19673270
>aint that into soup
sure, i don't give two shits about 99.999% of soups, but we also add more substance to our soup than the mostly liquid versions of asian dishes.
water is all they can afford pretty much

>> No.19674731

>>19674635
why yes, i want to hear the sounds of you fellating your food while im trying to enjoy myself.

>> No.19674734

>>19674635
yes, it is called "social etiquette". Do you scratch your asshole at the dinner table?

>> No.19674772

Don't even bother with spoons myself, I just drink from the bowl directly.

>> No.19674805
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>>19674772

>> No.19675685

>>19673270
that's no spoon, that's a slurping ladle

east asians make piggy noises when eating

>> No.19675696

>>19673270
Soup is a poverty food. We ate it a lot in America until about 150 years ago, but now we can afford to buy quality cuts of meat that don't need to be simmered for all day to be palatable.

>> No.19675825
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19675825

Soup etiquette pisses me off so much, bros.
So much fucking faggy pretense surrounding it. It's the perfect way to ruin the perfect dish.

Just put a damn handle on the bowl and let me go to town on it, and anything to scoop the solid bits. Grab a turkey baster and shoot it up your ass if you're going to be such an anal retentive retard about it.

>> No.19675828

>>19673270
gotta take those little victories where you can

>> No.19675831

>>19674576
Thailand

>> No.19675832
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>>19673270
This is the only tool you should eat a soup with.

>> No.19675929

>>19674396
He's right and I'm a weeb. Japan is full of gimmicky restaurants that just specialize in one meme dish. "Umami" is also cringe. I think the Jap scientist who "discovered" it actually only discovered that our tongues have specific taste receptors for it or something like that.

>> No.19676172

>>19673270
Can't eat with a chinese spoon withoout either slurping massively or spilling half the spoon over your chin. Asian utensils prove they eat like pigs

>> No.19676199

>>19673270
The only difference between "western" and "asian" soup spoons is that "asian" spoons are slightly larger. The spoon in that picture is a table spoon

>> No.19676257

>>19676199
The best thing about Asian soup spoons is that they're usually plastic and don't get scalding hot.

>> No.19676438

>>19676172
if you're physically disabled, maybe

>> No.19676483

>>19674635
hello pajeet

>> No.19676705
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19676705

>>19675825
s'called a soup cup brother

>> No.19676753

>>19675825
Lol third world mindset. Might as well eat off the floor.

>> No.19676777

>>19673395
Which makes them useless for stews. Sorry Chang, but not everyone subsists on rice stock and dogs

>> No.19676811

>>19674396
>a morbid fascination with the Orient
Does he even know what "morbid" means?

>> No.19676851

>>19676811
Japs are famous for slicing their own stomachs open with their samurai swords, so he has a point.

>> No.19676876

Asian soups need chopsticks to fish out the parts inside the soup, then use a spoon for the broth. Actual spoons do both of these tasks at the same time cause we don't put retarded noodles in soup.

>> No.19677376

>>19673326
This, umiromicly.

>> No.19677700

>>19675696
Some soups definitely fit the category of "struggle meal", but there are more refined soups that cost a pretty penny, though things like bisque are there to use up shells from lobsters/shrimp from other dishes being cooked. Then you have things like consume that was prepared for royalty back in the day. Soup really runs the gamut of social classes.

>> No.19677729

>>19675929
isn't umami just fucking savory? the way all seasoned meat is described?

>> No.19677742

>>19677729
It's a collection of flavors that are reactions to cooked and uncooked proteins, savory is a general English word to describe foods that have it, but also other flavors, while umami refers to just the taste of the proteins

>> No.19678757

>>19673387
Yeah, I'm sure you have a big mouth from all the black cock you choke down you worthless cocksucker
Go choke to death on your chink spoon

>> No.19678782

>>19673270
The right is not a soup spoon.

Am I the only white man on /ck/?

>> No.19678882

>>19674396
There is not a single thing wrong with what he said.
I'm convinced most people who opine on about the greatness of Japanese food have never been to Japan.
The supposed superiority of Japanese food is thrown into question when literal anglo navy curry became one of their most popularly consumed dishes after it was introduced to the islands.
It's very telling.

>> No.19678893

>>19675929
>>19677729
>>19677742
An MSG company in Japan paid food scientists to research the existence of the 'umami taste'.
There are no taste buds in your mouth that taste umami, their research however found that there were receptors in your gut which can detect umami. Of course with how the scientific research racket works, the scientists had to whore themselves out to sensationalist tabloids for interest in order to secure future funding and now we have retards today who think umami is a flavour.

>> No.19679365

>>19673270
But what about stews?
Maybe we are more serious about stews but for them it's broths

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>>19673291
spoken like someone who hasn't tried it. its GREAT for it.

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>>19674263
how is life now that you are reborn in the modern world villainess-sama?

>> No.19679404

I was eating boiled eggs earlier and I thought of this thread. How would you eat a boiled egg with the Asian spoon?

>> No.19679412

>>19678882
Most foods we recognize as "Japanese" today are borrowed from China or Europe with some indigenous ingredients like kombu, nori, shitake, and mirin added to give them that "Japanesey" flavor profile.

>> No.19679415

>>19679404
Who the fuck eats boiled eggs with spoons?
Anyway couldn't you just scoop it up ?

>> No.19679424

Very well but chopsticks are still retarded

>> No.19679427
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>>19673339
What about congee/rice porridge?

>>19679404
Asian dishes usually have a boiled egg deshelled, cut, and laid on top as a garnish, people usually just scoop it up with the spoon and then take bites out of the egg, they don't use those little egg cups with tiny spoons to dig out the insides

>> No.19679430

>>19673291
I have a chinese stepmother. Her mother disgusts me every time she eats anything. She fucking slurps every fucking thing every time. Even stuff you shouldn't even be able to, like a fucking roast dinner, she'll still fucking hoover in a potato for no reason

She also uses either the spoon in the OP or chopsticks for every meal and whinges when chopsticks don't work for that meal, like Mac and cheese or something, and will say anything western is disgusting even if she's clearly enjoying it and going back for seconds. My stepmother just tells her everything's from hong kong now to shut her up

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>>19673291
nigga what ive demolished hundreds of bowls of beef stew or chili with chinese spoons. lets you get a fat fucking scoop with all the good bits.

>> No.19679432

>>19679415
Soft boiled, in the shell. You crack the shell near the air pocket and eat the egg with the spoon. If you were making dippy eggs with the yolk runny and the white set, how would you eat the white, if not with a spoon?

>>19679427
>they don't use those little egg cups with tiny spoons to dig out the insides
Yeah, it's impossible to eat dippy eggs with the Asian style spoon. However I have lived in Asia and they do have western style spoons too.

>> No.19679436

>>19679430
based chinky granny asserting dominance

>> No.19680361

>>19679430
>My stepmother just tells her everything's from hong kong now to shut her up
lmao, makes you realise something. my great grandfather (rip) would always order flied rice, but hey at least hed eat it unlike my grandparents who nearly had an aneurism when i took them to a chinese restaurant

>> No.19680876

>>19673270
>japanesethingbetterwow.png

>> No.19680920

Only poor people eat soup

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>>19673270
Even if that were true (It's not)
I choose the western option every single time.

>> No.19681074

I remember when my mom divorced my dad and my dad started dating asian women those weird spoons showed up in his house and it confused me

>> No.19681075

>>19673643
Just slurp from the bowl

>> No.19681158

>>19680929
why the soup hate? Its a perfectly fine "food adjunct"

>> No.19681405

>>19674563
his arguments make sense but only from the perspective of a retard who never eats anywhere actually good.

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>>19678882
Ive been to japan and plenty of their food is amazing. however most of the best I've had is stateside. Japanese ingredients on the other hand, are quality above such, and you can tell that guys a faggot by seating himself down at one of his faggy little restaurants instead of some place that serves 10 different preparations of this guys eggs

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>>19675832
>guten tag meine freund, ve haff made spoon that leaks liquid, sehr gut ja?

>> No.19681875

>>19681411
I have to disagree, when it comes to 3 star Michelin restaurants, the quality of the ingredients will be the same regardless of where you go. The criticism still stands that there is nothing special about Japanese restaurants.

>> No.19681881

>>19674734
idk about chinks but arabs consider guest breaking etiquette as a gesture to the host that he "feels like at home". Thats why the burp, slurp, fart and shart.
Its a disgusting land of smells and stinks

>> No.19681890

>>19674396
Holy shit based as fuck. Japanese food is worse than even nigger food and anybody who uses umami unironically should consider anheroing

>> No.19681893

>>19681875
acess to quality ingredients is higher in Japan

>> No.19681897

>>19678882
Japan is really good at other people's food. The best italian food I ever had was in some middle of fuck nowhere restaurant four hours out of Tokyo. The best japanese food is unironically in fucking New Jersey

>> No.19681908

The secret to food in japan being good is having 100 IQ low level food service workers instead of 80 IQ chimpanzees, and higher staff that aren't fentanyl-meth rollercoaster semifunctionals

>> No.19681913

>>19676811
orient is cruel, barbaric and vulgar. Morbid fits it like black into prison cell

>> No.19681918

>>19681913
2 atom bombs wasn’t enough.

>> No.19681960

>>19681875
>the criticism still stands
yeah keep living in your rich people bubble, clearly cooks wont fleece your retarded ass.

>> No.19681989

>>19674396
This. Why do Japanese places in the U.S. even get away with business practices that would lose a traditional western establishment customers. Atleast this is changing on the West Coast because there is enough competition between Japanese restaurants that the novelty can’t make up for it.
>Small portion, same price
Fundamentally there is no reason for this. It’s the same labour and preparation just different ingredients. You trying to tell me Dashi or ramen broth is much different than making western stocks or soups? Or that tonkatsu is much different than a fried chicken cutlet.
>Shit service… Japan
The shit service you get at these places isn’t even cute anymore. You are not a mom and pop shop in Japan. You are in the U.S. charging sit down establishment prices. I expect ample service, food to come out in a reasonable time, and to be asked if I want another alcoholic drink by the time my drink is empty.
>Shit hole place
I am simply not going to pay nice prices to eat at a shit place even if the food is good. I will not eat at your place if it’s 98 degrees outside and your A/C is so bad you use walmart fans to supplement. The place smells, its cramped, and it’s stuffy.