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62% of chicken has salmonella or campylobacter bacteria according to Consumer Reports. Researchers found more fecal bacteria on chicken than they found swabbing a toilet, and described raw chicken as basically fecal soup.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine-archive/2010/january/food/chicken-safety/overview/chicke
n-safety-ov.htm

>> No.4037072

>raw chicken as basically fecal soup.
>Authentic Indian dining, here I come!

>> No.4037074

wash your huevos people how many times do i have to tell you

>> No.4037077

Yeah, not to mention that Obama has relaxed inspection standards for poultry. Make sure to wash and cook your chicken well, everyone. Also, make sure to check inside the chicken's cavity, because inspectors usually don't check for fecal matter inside chickens anymore.

>> No.4037079

>>4037069

70% of the USA's pork supply is contaminated with the Yersinia Bacteria too.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/11/27/study-finds-most-pork-contaminated-with-yersinia-bacte
ria/

>> No.4037080

how bad can chiken shit be i mean they only eat fucking corn for the most part. Its not like your eating the shits of some 300 lb raging alcoholic mad man.

>> No.4037081

>>4037069
It's the reason why we cook food? what happens to bacteria at 250degF?

>> No.4037084

>>4037080
My friend who lived on a farm said that chickens are the most disgusting barnyard animals. I forget all the things that the chickens do, but I trust his judgment.

>> No.4037085

>>4037081

The fecal bacteria spreads to the kitchen sink, the countertops, your hands, everything. You gotta clean anything that came near the chicken. That's why it's safer to lick the inside of a public toilet than it would be to lick most kitchen counters.

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4037103

I think I am going to use this as a chance to stop eating chicken. I have always known the treatment of chickens on factory farms is horrific, so add giving me diseases and spewing feces all over my kitchen into the mix and screw chicken I can eat other foods.

>> No.4037110

>>4037080
>alcoholic

Sounds more sterile than not.

>> No.4037115

>January 2010

>> No.4037137

>>4037115

The issue of meat contamination is only getting worse, as there is less regulation every year. That study about 70% of pork being contaminated is recent, for example.

>> No.4037234

>>4037085
What reasonable person would lick either one of those? Besides, are you saying that you don't wash your meat products properly to do exactly that..to remove possible fecal matters? I mean, I wouldn't put a chicken on my counter before I've thoroughly washed it, or any kind of meat.

>> No.4037243

>>4037080
looks like someone has never mucked a chicken coop.

>> No.4037248

Humans have developed a little thing called an immune system.

Just wash your chicken, cook it, and eat. It's fine.

>> No.4037259

>>4037243
ive never mucked a chicken coop although i have cleaned plenty of cow pens. and they eat hay and sometimes feed and their shits are almost immaculate. if a dog or a human took a shit that size the stench would be ridiculous.

>> No.4037271

>not cooking your chicken
>being hypochloridic
>having a compromised immune system

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>>4037234
Does washing it really do anything? I mean your heating the chicken up to temperatures that kill bacteria. Wouldn't splashing chicken juice all over your kitchen sink and surrounding area be worse?

>> No.4037313

>>4037303
Well, you'll be eating all the surface shit like fecal matter and whatever was in the air while it was being processed, but it will be safe to eat.

Your choice.

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>>4037313
You assume running a piece of chicken under cold water for a few seconds removes all of the "surface shit", i doubt it. Why do you think you use soap when you wash your hands in the bathroom? Because water doesn't remove the shit bacteria. So unless I can see turds smeared on my chicken, in which case I wouldn't eat it anyway, i fail to see what a little rinse actually does, besides give you a false sense of security.

>> No.4037328

>>4037325
Have you ever run something dusty under cold water? It's kind of like that. It's not going to sanitize anything, but it wash off large surface particles.

If you want to go all anal about it, then use white vinegar diluted down to 10%, and then rinse the chicken after running under the vinegar solution.

>> No.4037336

>>4037335
Why wouldn't you wash your meat?

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>>4037328
Well I haven't eaten any dusty chicken lately....maybe you are shopping in the wrong places. The point I am trying to make is that washing your chicken under cold water for a few seconds is really ineffective at making the chicken safer to eat, when compared to the cooking process, so why bother washing it.

Who makes a chicken washing solution.....

>> No.4037343

I use a make a chicken washing solution, but instead of 10% vinegar I use bleach to kill bacteria.

>> No.4037351

>>4037335
Okay, I'm done with your ignorant ass.

Because apparently chickens are processed in a high pressure laboratory with completely sterile equipment by men in hazmat suits.

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>>4037351

>The point I am trying to make is that washing your chicken under cold water for a few seconds is really ineffective at making the chicken safer to eat, when compared to the cooking process, so why bother washing it.

When did I ever say this?
>chickens are processed in a high pressure laboratory with completely sterile equipment by men in hazmat suits

Oh right never.

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>>4037103
chickens in those indoor coops actually have much longer life spans and lower death rates than ones raised outdoors. It's also much easier to inspect each bird individually and the people that take care of them make sure they're healthy because unhealthy = less money

>> No.4037376

>>4037351
Just to show I am not being ignorant, look at your gov't website:

>Some consumers think they are removing bacteria and making their meat or poultry safe. However, some of the bacteria are so tightly attached that you could not remove them no matter how many times you washed.

http://www.fsis.usda.gov/factsheets/Does_Washing_Food_Promote_Food_Safety/index.asp

>> No.4037426

>>4037358
>>4037376
My point is that it washes off surface particles, not that it kills any significant amount of bacteria.

It's not as necessary as, say, potatoes but it removes whatever coated the chicken during processing (from dust to skin flakes to fecal particulate)

>> No.4037444

>>4037303
I'm neither >>4037313 nor >>4037328 , but >>4037328 has a point about using vinegar if you're all anal and shit. For one thing, I wouldn't just wash my chicken for just a few seconds...is that the same way you wash your hands? Might as well not wash them at all. I don't splash shit all over the place when I wash my food either...that would kinda defeat the purpose. And yeah, washing my meat doesn't only do something, it is essential.

>> No.4037451

>>4037375
Long life != Quality life

>> No.4037547

>>4037259
>implying cow shit doesn't smell horrendous
>implying chicken and cow digestive systems are at all similar
haha okay.

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>2012
>eating animals
monsters

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>people giving a shit about fecal matter on food when you cook it at such high temps that it's burnt off anyway

Hope none of you also don't have your toothbrushes anyway near your toilet. Whenever you flush your toilet fecal matter is released into the air and is known to collect on toothbrushes after each nasty flush.
>http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/mythbusters-database/fecal-matter-on-toothbrush.ht
m

Your cell phones have more bacteria on them than your toilet seat. You touch them all day without washing your hands, breathe on them, and then you put it near your face.
Does that sound pleasant either?

None of you think about things like that until you get sick from it. So unless you get sick from chicken, then why do you care about the *idea* of what's on it, even when heat is proven to eliminate bacteria?
Also, wash your goddamn kitchens. Whenever we chopped or cut chicken in the kitchen as kids we were taught to disinfect the areas always anyway.

>> No.4037958

>FECAL MATTER FECAL MATTER FECAL MATTER
>if you have ever eaten intestines, ever, you have eaten fecal matter. It doesn't matter how well "cleaned" it was, and often they aren't cleaned at all... just wrung out and cooked.
>that's where that glorious earthy taste comes from, too.

inb4 LEL IM NOT 3RD WORLD WHY WOULD I EAT THOSE

>> No.4037967

>>4037426
You are delusional if you think rinsing anything with water for a few minutes makes it more sanitary.

>> No.4037989

>>4037967
It does. No one claims it removes biofilms and sterilizes surfaces, but it does reduce the number of CFUs.

>> No.4037992

>>4037451
Seriously. That is like saying miserable zoo animals are lucky compared to those in the wild, because they live longer.

>> No.4038015

>>4037547
Cow shit doesn't smell like much at all, compared to any other kind of shit.

>> No.4038349

>grew up on a poultry farm
>exposed to chickens on a near daily basis for years on end
>family simply adhered to basic rules of hygiene: Wash the chicken well, wash hands before eating, take a shower/bath after cleaning the chicken coops
>Never suffered from salmonella or any other foodborne illness

Do you guys even immune system?

>> No.4038364

>>4037069

Assuming OP's article is correct, my thought process would go like this:

-I have eaten many chicken nuggets in my lifetime, and I have never once gotten sick.
-Since I have eaten so many nuggets and not gotten sick, despite the bacterial contamination, that must therefore mean that the bacterial contamination doesn't fucking matter, despite sounding scary.

This makes sense, after all, we humans ingest bacteria constantly, every day. Bacteria are everywhere. You inhale them when you breathe. You touch them every time you touch any object.

Quit worrying about nothing.