/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.4149141]

Can the USA be considered a first-world country when a significant portion of its population can't afford nutritive food? (not: ramen/mdconalds/mechanically separated/etc) Everyone told me that food prices are a lot lower here but it turns out it's only nutrient-free garbage, anything actually sustaining costs a fortune, why? The poor in Europe have the social aid not to live off of oreos, white bread, etc. so why don't they here?

[tacocat No.4149154]

You can't legislate against stupid people. Idiots make bad decisions and the government gives them cash for doing so. They then continue to make bad decisions like spend all their obamabucks on McDonalds.

Why learn to cook and work for yourself if you can sit at home smoking dope eating mcdoubles all day.

[Anonymous No.4149161]

I always say this when someone brings up obesity being the biggest problem in America. It is mostly due to healthy food costing a fortune and crap being cheap and filling.

[Anonymous No.4149166]

>>4149154
/thread

[Anonymous No.4149167]

I feel like it is the other way around. I jsut went to the store and got a box of cheezits, it was 3 bucks. for the same price I could have gotten a pound of apples, a pound of grapes and an orange.

probably just as filling as a box of cheezits but way more nutritious

[Anonymous No.4149169]

in most places you can't spend food stamps on fast food, just stuff from the grocery store. people are just too lazy to learn to shop and cook properly. you can have a nutritious, filling meal for much less than a few things off the dollar menu at mc d but people really don't give a shit.

[Anonymous No.4149173]

My Fiance and I eat 80/20 Paleo so lots of lean proteins, lots of veggies and no white carbs. We have no money and shit jobs and yet we still manage to eat good foods.

You need to have some level of intelligence to eat right and cheaply. If you have a local farmer's market near by, your veggies will cost far less than at Wal-Mart or what ever mega store you have near you.

[Anonymous No.4149176]

It really doesn't cost a fortune. People are just too fucking lazy to cook or plan their meals, and every day is built around timing and convenience.

A "significant" amount of the population will always walk to the nearest EBT convenience store for chips and cigarettes, and spend every dime of actually earned income on weed and whatever calorie-dense junk-food they didn't get from their "free monies".

Let's not pretend we're the only ones with problems. Unemployment, poverty, obesity, and trash culture have been rampant in Europe as well. Let's not even get started on human rights in Asia.

[Anonymous No.4149177]

>>4149154
This. Everyone talks about how expensive healthy food is. I call BS on that, at least in the suburban area I live in. I can get a week's worth of fresh vegetables for maybe the same price as a McDonalds meal. Also, beans and rice are produced just as industrially as everything else here, so you could get a complete protein source with a reasonable carb and fat balance for cheap that way too.

If you must blame the government, blame corn subsidies. Corn syrup is a filler ingredient because the government pays big bucks to corn growers because of some old-ass farming law that no one strikes down because the huge lobby for it starts screaming "SO YOU HATE FARMERS NOW? YOU HATE FREEDOM? YOU HATE AMERICA!"

[Anonymous No.4149183]

A lot of it has to do with area. If you live in the midwest it is hard to get to a store which stocks super fresh foods. Not a lot of big cities around.

[Anonymous No.4149185]

I eat oatmeal every day for breakfast. Cheap as shit, healthy, and lets me "splurge" on higher cost healthy food for other meals.

[Anonymous No.4149189]

>not: ramen/mdconalds/mechanically separated/etc
The people that eat that kind of stuff all day are either a broke college kid, white trash or busy laborers/office jockies/etc that don't have enough time to really prepare their own meals.

>>4149161
>crap cheap and filling
Not for me. Homemade meals are always more filling than shit you can get at mickey-dee's/a chain or from the freezer aisle.

[Anonymous No.4149190]

>>4149167
ill bet there is as much or more calories in the cheezit box than there is in all the fruit. possibly a lot more. fruit is, afterall, mostly water. and fruit isnt a good example of health food anyway

[Anonymous No.4149195]

>>4149190
Woah woah woah... Fruit isn't healthy, but according to your logic Cheez-Its are? Yeah, heavily processed Carbs and "Dairy" is SOOOO much better than Fiber, unprocessed carbs and amazing flavors.

[Anonymous No.4149197]

>>4149190
More calories. But not as filling. Hense why all the obese black women. Not trying to be racist or anything, but they're going to eat that whole fucking box in a day and get fat. They're not starving. They're not too poor to eat better.

[Anonymous No.4149202]

>>4149190
Boohoo, healthy food isn't crazy calorie-dense.

[Anonymous No.4149212]

>>4149195
take it easy my friend. my reasoning is that poor people need to worry about calories to dollar ratio. calories are what keeps you alive, keeps you on your feet. furthermore, cheezits contain at least two of the three macro nutrients, carbohydrates and fat, where fruit only contains carbs.

fiber is of little concern in the conversation, since it is actually of no use to your body. what role it plays in overall health is complex to say the least, probably still a lot of which we do not know.

anyway, i'm talking about giving people the most bang for their buck. because they need energy to work, live etc. if someone has a demanding job they may need 3000 calories a day. they're going to spend a lot of money if they're getting any significant portion of that from fruit.

[Anonymous No.4149213]

When I lived in Japan fruit was godawful expensive and vegetables seemed scarce. While I loved the food there, I really liked not having to spend an arm and leg for an apple or a watermelon. Hell, bananas were really all that was reasonable.

Though I admit their carrots were godly. They're huge. American carrots are mangey looking and thin.

[Anonymous No.4149216]

>>4149212
>poor people need to eat more calories
Do you even obesity?

[Anonymous No.4149220]

>>4149202
yeah, which is why it is expensive. a tbs of butter on a piece of white bread gives you 150 cals for mere pennies. 150 cals of broccoli would cost you over a dollar, im sure.

[Anonymous No.4149223]

>>4149213
>their carrots were godly. They're huge.

Hooray, genetic modification!

[Anonymous No.4149228]

>>4149220
The whole fucking problem with poor people being supposedly reduced to eating McDonald's and other over-processed garbage every day is that it's very calorie-dense and lacking in good micronutrients.

[Anonymous No.4149235]

>>4149216
i don't think i said that anywhere. i don't know anything about obesity. if you are obese, obviously access to food is not a problem. if access to food is not a problem, what are we talking about? im talking about poor people where access to food is a problem. and im telling you buying fresh fruit and vegetables is not cost effective in that situation. in that situation, maybe heavy fat laden, calorie dense fat food is a better option.

[Anonymous No.4149236]

>>4149212
>anyway, i'm talking about giving people the most bang for their buck. because they need energy to work, live etc. if someone has a demanding job they may need 3000 calories a day. they're going to spend a lot of money if they're getting any significant portion of that from fruit.
Most of these "fat Americans" don't work a full timed job. Many seriously obese individuals work at deskjobs. We're not talking about husky dockworkers, we're talking about the pulsating maggots that eat garbage with their welfare checks and the disgusting adipose golems that consume three omelets at breakfast during a company trip.

Poor people are by no means starving in America.

[Anonymous No.4149250]

>>4149228
have you ever been poor? i have, i didn't eat mcdonalds everyday, thats for damn sure, in fact i didnt eat mcdonalds ever. i ate sphagetti and butter, potatoes, white bread, beans, that kind of shit.

although i will say, as soon as i did get just a little bit of money, i went to mcdonalds all the time. it was glorious. so maybe the problem isnt the real poor people, its the poor people that used to be poor, and just got a little bit of money.

[tacocat No.4149269]

>>4149250
I've been poor and I did go to mcdonalds once in a while. Maybe once a month. Usually got a double and a chicken sandwich. Never spent more than $3 for a meal there.

The great state of Kalifornia posted the calorie counts and it was something like 600 calories for 2 sandwiches. More than enough for a lunch.

Keep in mind people order big macs, large fries, and a gallon of coke for $8 giving a cool 1100+ calories.

[Anonymous No.4149272]

>>4149269
>Keep in mind people order big macs, large fries, and a gallon of coke for $8 giving a cool 1100+ calories.
thats shit. you can get two dozen eggs for less than half that, but its actually more calories. eight dollars worth of pancake mix is a shit load more calories than that. eight dollars worth of oil or butter, astronomically more calories than that.

[tacocat No.4149281]

>>4149272
correct, but you'd have to cook the eggs, maybe mix in water to the pancake mix and then cook them. And who even has time for that. Might as well drive a mile to the nearest mcdonalds, wait in line or drive-thru, order, pay, then munch on that double quarter pounder with cheese and bacon. Then refill the cup 3 times with cocacola.

Some of the convenience I understand, at work when I have 30 minutes to eat in my car, sometimes I don't want a cold sandwich or to microwave leftovers if i'm at the office. But again, you can't legislate away stupidity. Some people don't think about spending $10 on 1000+ calories of food that isn't particularly good for them.

[Anonymous No.4149285]

It's a triumph of the power of narrative that people honestly think 'being poor' is an acceptable excuse for obesity.

[Anonymous No.4149304]

being lower-class is correlated with obesity because it also correlates with low education and with mental illness. accordingly a lot of bad decisions are made and people get fat.

people who are actually POOR - as in, living paycheque-to-paycheque, always being on the verge of homelessness - or being ACTUALLY HOMELESS - these people generally do not have obesity issues. there are in fact starving children in the USA, so maybe cool it with all the Obama's Socialist Amerikkuh talk for a minute.

[Anonymous No.4149313]

>>4149304
>paycheque

[Anonymous No.4149316]

>>4149281
>drive-thru
>refill the cup 3 times

Wait what

[Anonymous No.4149319]

>>4149167

but people in poor neighborhoods can't buy those apples, at least not in thier nieghborhood.

if you don't belive me , go to the hood and look for high quality produce. it is supriseingly rare.

[Anonymous No.4149323]

there's obesity everywhere because children are being raised on shitty junk food? okay let's implement healthy school lunches that -
>DURR OBAMA SOCIALISM!

people are using their benefits on unhealthy food, let's restrict it such that -
>DURRRR MUH FREEDOMS

all the restaurant food is made of corn syrup and everyone's getting fat, let's ban transfats and regulate salt levels and post nutritional information and -
>HURRRRR GO BACK TO KALIFORNIA U COMMIE

can I at least send my wife out to teach kids about the food pyramid, maybe -
>GET OUT OF MY FAMILY YOU BLACK NAZI

damned if you do, damned if you don't, black president

[Anonymous No.4149324]

So let me get this straight. Cigarettes are punitively taxed, and cigarette companies are taken to trial for the effect they have on the health of the public. Yet McDonald's isn't legally liable for the billions of dollars of health care cost they inflict on the poor because...?

[Anonymous No.4149326]

>>4149167
>pound of apples, a pound of grapes and an orange.
>$3

where the fuck are you shopping? There's no way you could get that much food for $3

[Anonymous No.4149334]

>>4149323
> let's ban X

Let's not

Also

>Nobody will let the president help people because he is black

I'm so fucking tired of this excuse. There's no fucking racist KKK boogeyman holding back the public from letting Obama ban fucking trans fats or save Darfur or put his pants on or whatever shit you think he should be doing, and when somebody doesn't like something he does you can't just say "Well it's because he's black". Eat shit

[Anonymous No.4149337]

>>4149326
>where the fuck are you shopping? There's no way you could get that much food for $3

In a free country where the price for healthy food isn't driven up the wall by the corporations cranking out processed shit to run out the competition.

[Anonymous No.4149340]

>>4149324
yes, thats right. and when someone tries to address the problem, such as with michelle obama's probably poorly implemented school cafeteria overhaul, there is an outcry against it. i didn't like what she did, but at least she tried to do something. we need a complete cultural shift, and that will be much harder to accomplish, because it starts with the individual.

[Anonymous No.4149343]

I recently moved from the midwestern USA to Wales and everything is much more expensive across the board except for a handful of items

[Anonymous No.4149345]

>>4149337
so you're shopping in Imaginaiton land

[tacocat No.4149346]

>>4149316
>wait in line or drive-thru

I guess you missed part of my post

[Anonymous No.4149347]

>>4149334

>"there's no racism in america!"

[Anonymous No.4149350]

>>4149347

Are you retarded?

Do you think that's what the post said?

[Anonymous No.4149352]

you guys really think all those vegetables you get at the supermarket are so healthy for you, don't you? they're certainly better options than fast food, no doubt about that, but remember that most have been through so much genetic modification that they barely even resemble the vegetable that people had eaten for centuries. they're modified to maximize volume, because it makes consumers feel like they're getting 'more'. they do get more volume, but substantially less vitamins. not to mention the factory monoculture farms they come from

[Anonymous No.4149356]

oh nooooo, genetic modificatioooooon, oh nooo

[Anonymous No.4149360]

>>4149352

Fuck off. There's nothing wrong with GMO anything. Even the waterheaded hippie voters in California who swallowed Silent Spring and The China Syndrome saw through that scare shit.

[Anonymous No.4149363]

>>4149352
You're just going to keep moving the goal posts. How about we get the retards to start eating vegetables before we teach them about shit like the nutritional density of water bloated SuperTarget vegetables vs those grown with minimal aid in healthy soil.

[Anonymous No.4149364]

>>4149347
Die.

Slowly.

[Anonymous No.4149368]

Kroger up in this bitch

[Anonymous No.4149379]

>>4149352
but I get my vegetables from a local farm. I know the man who grows them (Farmer Carl), I know his methods, and I know where his seeds come from.

so jokes on you

[Anonymous No.4149422]

>>4149319

Congrats on being the only non-retard here. America's shitty infrastructure plays a huge role in our obesity. But I'm pretty sure most of the posters have never even heard the term food desert nevermind actually lived in one.

[Anonymous No.4149440]

>>4149183
>midwest
>basically bumfuckistan
No.

The majority of midwesterners still live in urban areas, and those that don't still don't live more than 20 minutes from a Super Wal-Mart.

>implying Wal-Mart produce is somehow tainted or any different than the produce at a regional supermarket
It's pretty hard to fuck up fruit and veg.

[Anonymous No.4149471]

>>4149141
>population can't afford nutritive food
yeah, because mcdonald's and soda is so much more expensive than beans and water.

[Anonymous No.4149472]

>>4149471
*cheaper

[Anonymous No.4149479]

>>4149471
>water
>nutritive

American education everybody!

[Anonymous No.4149480]

>>4149440
>>implying Wal-Mart produce is somehow tainted or any different than the produce at a regional supermarket

But it is. It's the generic-est, nutrient-starved bred-for-volume GMO Frankenfood shit they can produce.

[Anonymous No.4149481]

>>4149479
you usually need water to cook beans, and water is better for you than soda.

[Anonymous No.4149499]

>>4149368

...What about Kroger?

[Anonymous No.4149501]

>>4149480
>uses generic as an insult
>expects to be taken seriously

[Anonymous No.4149505]

>>4149480
And that's any different than any grocery this side of Whole Paycheck, how?

[Anonymous No.4149515]

>>4149479
fucking pedant. healthy/nutritive it's all in the same discussion

[Anonymous No.4149516]

>>4149505
i don't know but wal-mart's heavy handed methods in dealing with local produce suppliers is enough reason not to shop there. they favor cost effective over health and environment effective.

[Anonymous No.4149527]

>>4149183
>If you live in the midwest it is hard to get to a store which stocks super fresh foods


What? No it isn't. In fact I can probably get fresher food than you as there are a ton of local farms if you're willing to spend 5 minutes looking on the internet for one. I would say that midwesterners are more likely to have a garden on top of that.

What do you think the midwest is like exactly?

[Anonymous No.4149528]

>>4149480
Prove to me that gmo food is less healthy.

[Anonymous No.4149535]

>>4149190

Lol, back to /fit/ with ye. Here, have an energy bar. I made it myself, it's plenty calorie-dense from all the whey, egg yolk, multi-vites, supplements, steroids and lard I put in it. Stay healthy, my /fit/ friend!

[Anonymous No.4149540]

>>4149527
>willing to spend 5 minutes looking
not everyone has that kind of time

[Anonymous No.4149545]

>>4149540
apparently not

[Anonymous No.4149559]

>>4149499

Shopping at Kroger makes me depressed. Whole Foods/Publix ftw.

[Anonymous No.4149561]

>>4149535
its not a matter of /fit/ its a matter of sustaining yourself for as little money per day as possible.

for the record, buying cheezits or any name brand thing is noway to do it, but it likely has a better dollar to calorie ratio than fruit.

fyi the absolute best dollar to calorie ratio food available is white flour. its also so devoid of nutrition that when it first really started to enter the scene, people got sick. so they started adding a lot of shit to it, go ahead and look at the ingredients on a bag of flour.

[Anonymous No.4149563]

>>4149559

Harvey's Supermarket, nig.

[Anonymous No.4149564]

>>4149561

back2/fat/

[Anonymous No.4149572]

>>4149563

Never heard of it. I'm near Atl.

[Anonymous No.4149573]

>>4149561
*so they started adding a lot of shit to it, so people wouldn't get sick. thats why the list of ingredients on a bag of white flower includes thyacin, reduced iron, monothyacin, nyacin etc. i dont even know if those are real things but its what the back of a package of white flour looks like.

[Anonymous No.4149574]

>>4149564
if you don't like discussing calories or nutrition then perhaps you would be happier on some other board yourself.

[Anonymous No.4149598]

>>4149572

They're good stores, a mix of local produce and generic shit. Everything's pretty cheap, relative to Publix. It's like Ward's of Gainesville, by far the BEST grocery I've been to.

[Anonymous No.4149634]

Since I became a poor I've been eating healthier than I ever have. I live off of $50 per week on groceries and I usually get 3 homecooked meals a day with lean meats (chicken breast is cheap), veggies, and whole grain (it's not hard to find whole grain bread for affordable prices). I can't afford to waste cash on junk food. Sometimes I go weeks without sweets.

I even applied for EBT and it's totally possible to live off of EBT and eat decent food. Even if you're a busy mom of like 3 frozen veggies and chicken breasts with some sauce isn't that hard to make.

I'm pretty convinced most of the country just doesn't know how to shop and cook.

[Anonymous No.4149646]

>>4149634

That cat is so cute I want to quit my job and become a dirty hippie.

[Anonymous No.4149648]

>>4149634
>Since I became a poor
>I live off of $50 per week on groceries
thats about what i would expect the middle to live off per week. 7$ a day for one person? no, you're not eating cheap. its good, but its average.

[Anonymous No.4149769]

>The concept of the First World first originated during the Cold War, where it was used to describe countries that the United States was aligned with.
It is impossible to consider America anything but first world.
Sage for nationalist shitposting.

[Anonymous No.4149773]

>>4149319
I dunno, I used to live where all the Mexican immigrants lived in a shitty apartment that did some Section 8 housing (though it was mostly not), and I had no problem finding fresh produce for cheap. Super Wal-Mart a block down the road, a Mexican grocer even closer than that. That was in Tennessee.

I'm in California staying with my mother for a little while and she's in one of the cheaper parts of San Diego, in El Cajon. She lives in an apartment connected to a fish market/restaurant. Right down the street is a market where I can get produce for dirt cheap; not the freshest produce, I want to use it the day I buy it, but I can get a bag of carrots for fifty cents.

I've never seen section 8 housing (or other project housing) that was more than 5 miles from a large and cheap grocery store. And while I appreciate that people in poverty probably can't afford to drive daily to get groceries, they should still be able to go after work.

I don't know what poverty areas you're living in, but the ones I've lived in all had access to fresh food for reasonably cheap prices. It's just that poor people are also generally lazy and/or handicapped. If they weren't, they wouldn't be poor for so damn long.

But I can guarantee you 1000000% that healthy food is WAY cheaper than junk food. It just takes prep work and you have to be willing to go to a grocery store a few times a month to stock up.

[Anonymous No.4149817]

>>4149773
>healthy food is cheaper than junk food

But that's fucking wrong. That's dead fucking wrong. Healthy food is not cheaper.

[Anonymous No.4149827]

>>4149573
Nigger, have you ever looked at a bottle of multi-vitamins? All of those things are essential vitamins and minerals. I agree it's better to get them from fruits and veggies, but basically you just have a few ground up multi-vitamins in your bag of flour. Stop acting like anything with a chemical-sounding name is bad for you and educate yourself.

I'm looking at my multi-vitamin and laughing at you right now. Are you also afraid of Ascorbic Acid? Acids are bad, you know.

[Anonymous No.4149841]

>>4149817
You are a terrible shopper, then. I can get a bag of carrots, an onion, a bellpepper, a pound of ground beef, and a pound of rice for about $3.50. That will feed my family of 6 fried rice and still have extra uncooked rice at the end. Ground beef isn't the healthiest of meats, but this meal is a damn lot healthier nutrient-wise and more calories than a single Big Mac, which is about the same price.

If you eat more eggs, buy frozen chicken breast when it's on sale, you can get cheap meats that are healthier. But I'm saying that I can go out, right this second, and get those things for those prices.

Stop being a terrible shopper.

[Anonymous No.4149860]

>>4149841
And because I know somebody is going to call me out on it.

Bag of carrots = $.50
Onion = $.25 roughly (I usually buy in bulk)
Bellpepper = $.25 roughly
Clove of garlic = $.04; thirty three cents for a head and there are usually at least 8 cloves on mine.
Egg = $.10 (I can get a dozen for about $1.20, on a bad day. In Tennessee they were $.88 most of the time)
Salt and Pepper = $.01 (negligible cost)
Ground beef = $1.40 a pound
Rice = $1 for a one pound bag.

In total $3.55 cents. And I'll have extra carrots as well as rice. The only ingredient I didn't mention was the cooking oil for the pan, which would maybe be another five cents, max? It's hard for me to even register stuff like that because you buy a bottle and it lasts you for a month or so, even if you use it every meal.

[Anonymous No.4149868]

blacks spend their money/food stamps on stupid shit

my friend worked at a grocery store and told me that some black bitch bought an entire cart full of steaks, and as he scanned them and the total neared her allotment of stamps the children cheered her on

most of these people are seriously subhuman.

[Anonymous No.4149874]

>>4149827
>All of those things are essential vitamins and minerals.
i know that, and i thought it was implied in my post. i was saying that flour, the cheapest food substance available, is so void of nutrition that by itself it was making people sick, because they weren't getting the nutrients they needed from their diet. they had to add the vitamins in afterward. im pointing out how devoid of nutrition cheap food is. yes the vitamins added later were enough to keep people from getting sick, but is it a very healthy part of one's diet? probably not.

[Anonymous No.4149882]

>>4149868
It's not just black folks. I've got family (I come from a nice line of refined white trash) that will go and spend $40 at the Habeeb mart for 2 packs of cigarettes. In my experience, people evidently use food stamps as barter for drugs and to feed your family pork rinds and soda.

[Anonymous No.4149887]

>>4149882
to each his own then, i come from white trash too

alabama white trash.

[Anonymous No.4149888]

>>4149860
>no green vegetables anywhere in sight
we know you can eat cheap, but you cant eat cheap green vegetables included.

[Anonymous No.4149894]

>>4149888

Which green vegetables do you like in your fried rice?

[Anonymous No.4149895]

>>4149868
>>4149882
i know this. it was even worse because i worked at a convenience store, which made everything even more expensive than a supermarket chain. and no generic anything, everything name brand. nignogs, dumb white people too though don't get me wrong, would come in and buy fuckin lunchables and diet soda on ebt. so stupid.

[Anonymous No.4149897]

>>4149860
ground beef
>$1.40 a pound
rice
>$1 a pound
garlic
>.33cents

What the fuck Tennessee, I see double or triple the price where I am

[Anonymous No.4149901]

>>4149897
Ams also from TN, I can confirm that that shit is not realistic here.

[Anonymous No.4149904]

It is funny how the U.S. has such cheap subsidized food and a really high GDP... yet people can't seem to afford good quality whole foods.

Or they are too stupid and have retarded priorities to want good, healthy food.

[Anonymous No.4149905]

>>4149897

Not that guy, but...

Depends on where you shop. Just today I noticed Publix (north side supermarket) sells ginger at 4.99 per pound, whereas Little India (south midtown) sells fresher ginger at 1.99 per pound. Asian markets, farmer's markets, locally owned groceries, and farm shops are your friend.

[Anonymous No.4149914]

>>4149888
>implying bellpeppers aren't a green vegetable.

I also usually chop up some cabbage for mine, which would up the cost by another thirty cents and not really add much nutrient-wise, which is why I didn't mention it. Plus a little soy sauce for flavor because fuck bland food.

But sure, let's try this again.
1 bundle of spinach = $1.00 for a pretty good sized bundle
1 box of spaghetti or other pasta = $1.00
3-4 Roma tomatoes = $1.00
2 cloves garlic = $.08
Basil and Oregano = from my garden and free but let's pretend you're too much of a lazy fuck to garden and use dried. $.10
Salt and Pepper = $.02 (to make math easier)
Oil (preferably olive, but whatever will work if you're really poor.) = $.05

Cook the tomatoes with the garlic, oil, and herbs to make a sauce to serve over the pasta. Wilt the spinach to serve on the side. Probably enough food for 3-4 people for $3.25. I'd double the recipe for my family and it'd cost $6.50, which is still pretty damn cheap for the number of people you're feeding.

Stop being a terrible shopper.

[Anonymous No.4149916]

>>4149905
Ginger isn't something I frequently use though. I'm aware of how shitty it is, but I also question the quality of some of the meats in those places. I by no means want any GI ailments in my household.. three people and two toilets doesn't add up.

[Anonymous No.4149919]

I think you guys don't understand that for most people it isn't cost so much as time. There aren't a lot of meals you can prepare in the time it takes to hit up a drive-thru on the way home. It isn't laziness as much as it is people working too hard and not having any energy left to cook

[Anonymous No.4149921]

>>4149905

O yea, I get my eggs free from a neighbor who lives <1 mile away, he's the Uni's ornothology professor. Nice guy. Needless to say, I eat a lot of eggs.

I also get my greens from an alternative high school in the southside, who has a gardening class, and occasionally rob the Salvation Army garden and the Uni's agricultural program's garden.

[Anonymous No.4149922]

Right now at Meijer (upper Midwest chain) in west Michigan, apples are $0.99 a pound, pears are $1.18 a pound, milk is $2.59 a gallon, ground round is $2.99 a pound, and pork shoulder is $1.67 a pound. You can get 10 lbs of russet potatoes for $2.49. Clementine Mandarin oranges are less than a dollar a pound right now there too, and large avocados are $1.20 each. There are plenty of healthful foods at low prices in America. Beans and Rice are always cheap here, and if your intake is deficient of vitamins and minerals, multivitamin supplements are damn cheap if you buy them in bulk.

[Anonymous No.4149926]

>>4149897
This is actually in San Diego; I have the cheapest fucking market across the street from my mom's house and it's amazing. In Tennessee I have to shop around pretty hard and buy in bulk to get prices like that, but I can still do it. I actually found frozen ground turkey logs for $1.00 for awhile, though the prices went up to $1.25 before I left state. This was at Wal-Mart and it's probably pink slime, but the Italian seasoned ones made good meatballs. I can get three cloves of garlic for a dollar any day of the week for those prices at Aldi.

If you don't shop at Aldi you're not doing poorfag right.

[Anonymous No.4149931]

>>4149916

So pay more for your produce, it's as simple as that. But being a broke nigga, I find that Little India's 2.50/lb okra and cheap dry goods are safe and fresh. They don't sell meat... doh.

[Anonymous No.4149934]

>>4149919
>I think you guys don't understand that for most people it isn't cost so much as time. There aren't a lot of meals you can prepare in the time it takes to hit up a drive-thru on the way home. It isn't laziness

Yes, it is laziness.

[Anonymous No.4149945]

>>4149914
thats about half of the calories than in the previous meal.

[Anonymous No.4149947]

>>4149934
When I'm working 55 hours a week, I don't have time to prepare healthful meals every meal. Sometimes you gotta cut corners.

And that's where supplmentation comes in

[Anonymous No.4149951]

When I was in college (in the US), I primarily lived off of rice, beans, chicken thighs, and lentils. I spent less on food than my dumb ass roommates that ate shit like mac & cheese, frozen waffles, and beer for 3 meals a day.

The obesity problem in the US isn't because healthy food costs more, it's because of "food deserts" where people don't have access to a proper supermarket where they can buy produce, and because lots of people are just too lazy and stupid to learn how to cook. I think other issues are people passing on bad eating habits to their children, and also, there seems to be a cultural attitude toward cooking in America that if you cook something, it needs to be some big deal that takes hours to make and has to be exquisite, rather than just something that is simple, nutritious, and decent.

Honestly, I don't think that these problems are specific to America, either. I spent some time in Scotland a couple of years ago and *man* those motherfuckers are fat...

[Anonymous No.4149952]

>>4149945
and thats what im getting at. you have choices, you can buy a dollar worth of hamburger, or a dollar worth of spinach. the spinach is probably a couple hundred worth of calories, the hamburger is maybe 800-1000.

[Anonymous No.4149955]

>>4149926
Fuck it. I'll go to the Aldi tomorrow and dick around in there to see what they have. I mostly just fucking hate having to thaw shit out because by the time SO gets home I wanna have shit made to gtfo.

[Anonymous No.4149956]

>>4149947
>I don't have time
Yes, you do. You just think going on 4chan and dicking around is more important than making healthy food.

The whole "no time, gotta eat fast food" myth is such bullshit.

[Anonymous No.4149959]

>>4149931
Pretty much this. If you're really a poorfag and you're not content to stay a poorfag, then you're going to buy the cheap produce even if you KNOW it's shit tier stuff that you have to use that day, all so you can start putting money back so you're not poor forever.

Hispanic markets are great for cheap peppers and tomatoes. No, they're not bright red and shiny and still on the vine, and will probably spoil within the week. But they're $.75 a pound and still better for you than anything else for the price, so you're going to take your poor ass to the store and buy them.

[Anonymous No.4149965]

>>4149951
>there seems to be a cultural attitude toward cooking in America that if you cook something, it needs to be some big deal that takes hours to make and has to be exquisite, rather than just something that is simple, nutritious, and decent.
oh man totally. people do not have a very open mind when it comes to food. and you only eat things because of the taste. if someone see you eating a plain bowl of oatmeal, that is like the weirdest thing ever why would you eat just that it doesn't even have any flavor etc. etc.

[Anonymous No.4149970]

>>4149956
TBH, I'm usually so fucking angry and jittery from being hungry at the end of the day that I just want something to fill the void sometimes.
inb4--lawl dick jokes.

[Anonymous No.4149978]

>>4149945
So you mix it up. Some days you have the fried-rice meals that are calorie rich but not nutrient rich. And some days you have the nutrient rich meals that are less calorie rich. If you supplement that meal with slices of white bread and butter, you get more calories for just a few more pennies, and since the rest of the meal has a lot of vegetables, you can get away with including an element that is less healthy.

Also I mentioned that there were only half the number of servings. Did you notice that?

[Anonymous No.4149980]

>>4149965
>dumb fat broads that think eating some simple veggies or grain is a worse fate than being a dumb fat broad

[Anonymous No.4149983]

>>4149952
Yeah, but any sane person is going to do both; hamburger one night and spinach another. The hamburger is calorie rich and the spinach is nutrient rich. You need both to have a healthy diet. Even poor people can't live off hamburger alone.

I mean, seriously. It's like you think it's one or the other and you can't have both.

[Anonymous No.4149993]

Shut up cunt, is that same proportion of the population that's on crack, meth, pcp, or heroin, or are otherwise fucked in the head? They'll always be like that and the fact is, that's also the demographic that usually pumps out the most kids, so for them, they just have to clear there heads for a minute or two, the food is there. We take care of ourselves you fucking cunt... now go back to your socialist agenda. A lot of us don't want to pay for that or your fucking socialist agenda, I bet you pray to marx and algore every night before you sleep?

[Anonymous No.4149994]

>>4149955
Microwave thawing, my friend. I forget to thaw stuff out all the time, but my microwave does a pretty decent job in just 15 minutes or so, depending on the size of the thing I'm thawing.

I'm not just poor in wallet, I'm poor on time.

And trust me, Aldi is amazing. This was the very rare exception and the expiration date was the next day, but I once got a gallon of skim milk for $.99 cents there. Fuck I love Aldi. I get my milk, eggs, frozen means, and shelf-stable items from there. The produce... sometimes. Like, the garlic is good and if I'm gonna use it within the next day or two I can buy whatever. But I don't usually get bags of potatoes there as they usually spoil before I can use them and rotten potatoes smell like devil's spawn.

[Anonymous No.4149997]

>>4149983
>sorry kids you wont be able to play at recess tomorrow because you'll be anemic from eating half as many calories as you should have yesterday

[Anonymous No.4149999]

>>4149993
Did you sneak over here from /x/? It kinda sounds like you missed your dose of Depakote.

[Anonymous No.4150007]

>>4149980

There has never and will never be a worse fate than being a dumb, fat broad. Never. Fucking 10th ring of hell.

[Anonymous No.4150011]

>>4149997
>mfw fat people think you will go anemic and not be able to move if you don't eat a lot for one day

[Anonymous No.4150015]

>>4149994
What is you a retaaaaaad? Just put whatever that you're trying to thaw in some water, it thaws really quick that way.