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Can we have a tea thread?

How long do you let your tea steep?

I'm fairily new to tea, but when I make a cup, I let it steep infintely long and get it to the point that it is really really bitter, I like it that way kind of. It gets more of the flavor into it, and I feel like I have wasted the tea if I don't let it steep until all of the flavor is out of the leaves completely.

I don't think I've ever had tea steep for a short period of time.

How does /ck/ like their tea?

>> No.4297158

Depends on the tea.

Green tea <2 minutes
Oolong 2-3 minutes
Black tea 4-5 minutes

>> No.4297187
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4297187

Behold the 11 Commandments of Tea

http://www.booksatoz.com/witsend/tea/orwell.htm

I follow these almost by the book, except for a very few slight derivations which I find tolerable.

Remember that different blends and varieties of Black Tea also require different steeping times. For instance if you steep 1 and 1/2 teaspoon of Earl Grey for a single cup for more than 3 and a half minutes you're likely to get an overly bitter tea because the acidic tannins of the bergamot flavoring.

Opposed to that, I steep always let my Azores Pekoe steep for about 5 minutes, sometimes even adding an extra 1/2 teaspoon just for that extra flavor, because it's a type of Black Tea with a relatively smooth, earthen taste that rarely gets bitter.

Broken/whole leaf also affects steeping time, since broken lead usually steeps faster, as it releases the tea flavor easily.

And I also take it that you're not a sugar lover. That's good. Sugar ruins tea. If you happen to like sugar, eat a biscuit or a slice of cake while enjoying your daily brown cup of joy. You'll find out the sweet taste of the biscuit will clear your tongue from overly strong tea tannins, allowing you to enjoy the full flavor of your tea right on the next sip.

And for god's sake, don't get one of those faggy glass teapots just because they're in. Fine china or earthenware if what you should really look for in a teapot. And believe me when I say it DOES make a difference.

>> No.4297188

2-3 minutes for green and white tea
5 minutes for black

Though I question this now because a Chinese pal of mine told me they steep tea for 20-30 minutes in China.

>> No.4297195

>>4297188

Thats how I do it. 10-20 minutes of steeping.

>> No.4297210

Does anyone else make tea a single cup at a time with the microwave?

I hate to do it but I have no kettle, so I have to do it that way, using one bag per cup is getting really expensive though.

>> No.4297227

Green: 2-3 mins
Black 3-5 mins
Fruit: 8 mins
Herbal: 5 mins
Rooibos: 8 mins
Chai: 10 mins

>> No.4297229

>>4297210

Why don't you just buy a kettle then?

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>>4297210

Usually drinking tea also involves the ritual of making tea, and traditionally, that implies boiling the water on the stove/flame. I don't have a kettle myself so I just use one of these, which actually allows me to heat the teapot more effectively by using the water's own steam when placing the teapot on top of it.

Otherwise just buy a bloody kettle. They're cheap.

>> No.4297245

Lasang Souchong: 3 mins
Shit tier Tetleys/PG Tips: 30 seconds.

More of a coffee drinker could not give less of a fuck if i'm doing it wrong. Tastes fine to me.

>> No.4297250

>>4297245
Lapsang*

>> No.4297259

Ok, could someone explain to me how to make tea?

I tried putting the tea pot on the stove burner with water in it but it's not coming out right. What the fuck am I doing wrong?

>> No.4297267
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>>4297259

Casualfag way:

Boil water
Put water in cup
Put tea bag in cup
Wait
Remove tea bag
Drink

Normalfag way:

Boil water
Put tea leaves in a filter
Put filter in cup
Put water in cup
Wait
Remove filter
Drink

I am honestly astounded that somebody could fail at making tea.

>> No.4297281

>>4297259
You pour boiled water (not boiling) over the tea and leave for steep for a couple of minutes. There are very few things more simple.

>> No.4297276

>>4297259

1 - boil the water on the kettle
2 - pre-heat the teapot by whatever means you find effective. Swirling it with a little of the boiled water is one of the most frequently used.
3 - For one person, place 1,5 teaspoons of loose leaf tea on the teapot
4 - Drop the boiling water on the teapot. let it steep according to tea type and personal taste.
5 - Serve
6 - ?????
7 - profit.

>> No.4297275

>>4297210
I do at work, I heat a cup of water for 2 minutes in the microwave then add the teabag for a couple minutes

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>>4297267

Ok so what am I doing wrong exactly

I put the water in the pot,
put the pot on the burner,
put the tea in the pot.

Then the kitchen starts to smell like burning shit, and the tea never comes out right.

Pic related my tea pot looks similar.

>> No.4297292

>>4297288
You pour boiled water over the tea. The tea goes nowhere near any stove....

>> No.4297295

>>4297288
>I put the water in the pot,
>put the pot on the burner,

How about you fucking boil the water BEFORE putting it in the cup?

>> No.4297300

>>4297288
Jesus America. Use kettles already. That way it's impossible to fuck up something as simple as making tea.

>> No.4297319

how many times do you guys reuse the same teabag, I try to use mine at least twice.

>> No.4297329

>>4297319

Only ever once.

The only tea I use twice is gunpowder green tea.

>> No.4297333

>>4297300
What? People don't have a kettle?

>> No.4297346

>>4297333
They boil water in microwaves. It's pretty funny.

>> No.4297349

>>4297333

If they don't have a kettle they should just use a fucking sauce pot or anything else, it doesn't really matter. It's just heating up water.

>> No.4297361

>>4297346

At least those people know not to put the fucking teapot on the stovetop what the fuck man.

>> No.4297444

So I recently had to quit good ol' black tea, because I found out I have high blood pressure. Is decaf tea any good, or is it as shitty as decaf coffee?

>> No.4297448

>>4297346
I don't do it, but seriously, what is wrong with boiling water in the microwave? Are you one of those clowns who thinks that microwaves destroy food and shit?

>> No.4297453

>>4297448

Do you make soup using a convection oven?

Some people just have a weird fetish about using the right tool for the job. Weird, I know.

>> No.4297454

>>4297448

It's just something you don't do because it's so fucking plebeian. It's like using a wooden crate as a dining table. Of course it works but what self-respecting person would ever do it?

>> No.4297459

>>4297453
>>4297454
It's actually faster to boil water in the microwave than it is to boil it on a kettle

>> No.4297466

>>4297448
>what is wrong with boiling water in the microwave
I'm pretty sure having read that it's actually bad if you're making >proper< tea.

>> No.4297470

>>4297459

An electric tea kettle will give you a pot of boiling water in about 1 minute, and won't make you feel like a weirdo while you do it.

>> No.4297477

>>4297210

I have a kettle but almost always just fill up a two cup pyrex measuring cup and bring it to a boil. Fits perfectly in my teapot, and you're not *supposed* to brew more than one cup of green tea at a time so it's the best solution.

>> No.4297484

>>4297459
That's definitely not true.

>> No.4297499

>>4297187
>http://www.booksatoz.com/witsend/tea/orwell.htm
this was a very intresting read
based anon

>> No.4297550

>>4297499

Remember that certain rules are merely a product of their time and can be adapted.

Rule nº1 is a good example, for instance. There are plenty of newer Tea varieties, both chinese and non-indian, in general, that can be as good, if not better, according to the taste. Personally I love Azores tea, as I mentioned. The third rule is another good example of a clearly outdated rule.

Personally the one that surprised me the most was the fourth. Splitting and converting the exact quantities mentioned to centiliters, allowed me to achieve the perfect Earl Grey brew, of which I became very proud of, since Earl Grey can become overly bitter very easily, and thus is not an easy tea to get started with.

>> No.4297598

puer: 5-10sec
wu long: 5-15sec
black: 5-15sec
green: 10-20sec

3minute steeping times my ass. Get some quality tea instead.

>> No.4297606

>>4297598

Enjoy your hot water with a barely noticeable flavor.

>> No.4297614

>>4297606
While his steeping times don't make sense because the first steep takes longer and consecutive times take less, you're just talking out of your ass.

>> No.4297635

>>4297614

because ten seconds is enough time for flavor. You're all just pussies who can't handle the rich bitterness of a good well steeped tea. I bet you use a million spoons of sugar too.

>> No.4297643

>>4297635
If you abide by your 10s rule for every kind of green tea regardless of how often you've steeped it then you're just a clueless and silly idiot who is wasting potentially good tea.

Also green tea is not bitter. I bet you're using boiling water, too.

>> No.4297658

>>4297606
After puer tea has been steeped 3-4 times, you can literally just pour the water through it and it will get enough flavor just like that. At least for shu/ripe puer. Sheng/raw puer doesn't develop the same way shu does between the steeps though.

>> No.4297679

>>4297606
>pu-erh
>barely noticeable

bro you don't even know, that shit's powerful.

>> No.4297690

>>4297679
This. Pu-erh is my favorite type of type. It's both strong and amazingly smooth.

>> No.4298674

>>4297635
>You're all just pussies who can't handle the rich bitterness of a good well steeped tea.
>rich bitterness
>good

I never thought I'd see the day where someone attempted to troll a fucking thread about tea on 4chan.

>> No.4298786

I'm a tea pleb, I use teabags of herbal and fruit teas. Peppermint and Chamomile is my favourite, followed by Apple and Blackcurrant.

>> No.4298790

Depending on the type, times already steeped, and water temperature I let it steep longer or shorter.

>> No.4298807

My favourite tea is the Turkish Tea.

>> No.4298814

||>>4298807||
Shutup, sandnig.

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>mfw Brits think they know shit about tea

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>>4298807
I saw this the other day and thought of that post.

>> No.4299075
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5-6 minutes in my Ingenuitea and I'm good to go.

>> No.4299099

>>4297444
you can get good decaf coffee you know
Don't drink tea but I presume if you pay more you can get a decent decaf tea

>> No.4299119

>>4297151

Yorkshire tea is my preferred blend.

>Put the mug under hot flowing water as the kettle is about half way boiled
>dry and put tea and sugar in
>pour in boiling water
>place saucer or small plate on the top
>put bread in the toaster
>butter bread and pour a good lashing of milk into the tea and stir

Perfect every time.

>> No.4299120

>>4299119

Should have read:

>butter toast

>> No.4299152

I dont drink tea
not that i dont like it, i just never really crave it or something
Any suggestions how i can get more into tea?

>> No.4299166

>>4299152

You can take 2 paths, herbal or standard british. I cannot stand herbal, especially green, tea. But I crave a standard british cuppa, preferably yorkshire tea with lots of milk and some sugar.

I have around 8 cups a day midweek as they come thick and fast where I work, and 3-4 a day on weekends.

>> No.4299171

What is this shit, brewing tea for 5-10 minutes?

Do you enjoy feeling like you've drank slightly damp cotton?

>> No.4299176

>>4299119
That does sound good, but a little too much of a faf for me.
>marks and spencers gold blend tea (only the best you plebs)
>apply boiling water
>wait 30-60 seconds depending on what's on TV and how much I'm willing to miss
>splash of milk
>dark chocolate digestive
>sit in front of the fire with my laptop and watch TV

>> No.4299186

>>4299166
thanks
i guess i will try both first
but standard british sounds better somehow

>> No.4299320

>>4299171

I seriously like the bitter flavor better.

>> No.4299355

>>4299320
Its not about the flavor. Its about the fact that it makes you feel like you've been drinking sand; very dry and just uneasy.

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I just got into loose leaf tea. Bought sencha, genmaicha and silk dragon jasmine in a green tea pack at a David's Tea not far from where I live. I literally have a shitty electric kettle and measure its temperature with a meat thermometer.

I need a better kettle and a teapot though.

>> No.4299429

>hipsters
>tea names
>George Orwell
>teavana
>starbucks
>tumblr shit

I hate the tea community

>> No.4299441

>>4299429
This is the tea hipster god.
http://www.smithtea.com/about-smith/

He started Tazo which was pretty hipster and damn good, then he sold it to Starbucks. Now he has Smith Tea which is even better.

Sometimes hipsters do it right.

Also we got a hippie tea shop called "Tao of Tea" in Portland. How does that name make you feel?

>> No.4299448

>>4299441
>Starbucks/Hipsters/

They ruin tea especially when they quote GeorgeOrwell

>> No.4299477

>>4299448
Hipsters don't always ruin things. What they ruin is your ability to enjoy things that they fetish-ize but you once loved. Which kind of turns you into a chrono-hipster-anti-hipster.

>> No.4299529

>>4299477
Oh they don't ?

>Hipster raise awareness
>increase demand
>Starbucks includes this new product in it lineup
>Starbucks creates a monopoly of the product
>Demand increases even more while the supply has been stagnate
>Price of goods goes up
>New hip culture of tea

Oh hipster do ruin things you dam tea drinking faggot

>> No.4299532
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>>4299416
Nice. When you buy a teapot make sure that the tea can flow freely when being brewed. That infuser mug in your picture is not optimal.

>> No.4299533

>>4299429
>tea names

I don't get why you hate tea names, but the other stuff I can mostly understand.

>> No.4299535

>>4299532
It was kind of an impulse buy. I wanted to drink the tea right when I got home and I wanted something simple.

Do you have a favourite site to buy teaware from?

>> No.4299536

>>4299532
>infuser mug in your picture is not optimal.


The pseudo tea community is filled with this shit while Asia as a whole drinks tea like a normal person.

>> No.4299546

>>4299536
Asians don't use infuser mugs either (not sure about Koreans) or anything that constricts the leaves. At least not those that give a shit about their tea. I'm sure lots of them are ignorant about or simply don't care enough.

>>4299535
I either import from Japan or use a European store. I've heard good things about den's tea if you want to order withing NA.

>> No.4299565

I bought loose-leaf tea the other day for the first time...I got jasmine silver needle tea. It's pretty good, I definitely prefer it to PG tips or whatever.

>> No.4299593

>>4299546
They see no point in being pretentious over tea

>> No.4299611

>>4299593
People can be pretentious about anything. Why can't people just like tea enough to want to have a great cup every time?

>> No.4299652

>>4297329

Barbarian.

>> No.4299664

>>4299611
Tea/Coffee community is very pretentious over inane shit.

>> No.4299682

>>4299593
That's something every ignorant person says about things they don't understand or care about.
Just like how you want to enjoy your steak in a specific way, so do I want to enjoy my tea the way I want.

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4299700

>people who only drink black tea and think all of their "rules" apply to every tea in the world

>> No.4299728

I just bought myself some fog tea, chinese green tea. Damn the aroma, it almost has a hint of white chocolate, apparently (hopefully those fuckers didnt lie to me) without any artificial or aditional taste added, a pretty rough tea, taste delicious.

I let it soak for 2.5 min. I like my green tea fairly strong.

>> No.4299730

i like mine simple, i cant enjoy tea that is a bother to make.
so this is what i do:
>earl grey
>put it in an empty cup
>pour boiling water
>1-2 minutes
>or 30 seconds if i t-bag it
then i let it sit until its easy to drink while still being hot, leaves a great feeling in my mouth.

>> No.4299782

Countries with strong tea culture:

>"Hey I bought us some tea from the market!"
>Put it in the pot
>Put in water
>Wait a bit
>"Okay I think that was long enough. Do you want sugar?"
>"No thanks."
>Drink
>"That's some pretty good tea."

Countries with no tea culture:

>"Alright I bought us this expensive hand-picked tea from the import store. The guide I read said it's extremely important to brew it at exactly 90°C for 2 minutes and 6 seconds, then throw it away and brew it again for one minute and 37 seconds."
>"IT'S NOT PERFECT! WE MESSED UP! IT'S NOT *PROPER* TEA LIKE IN CULTURED COUNTRIES NOW!"

>> No.4299797

>>4297151
about 2-3 minutes, mostly Rooibos tea ( i think it's called Rooibos in english)
also Earl-Grey with Bergamot-Orange flowers

>> No.4299804

>>4299782
Your point would be valid if you had actually tried brewing good tea correctly and found that it made little to no difference to just throwing it in the pot and doing whatever. Instead you're choosing to talk shit about something you have no clue about.

>> No.4299899

The golden rule of making anything to ingest: if you like it, make it that way.

Tea is pretty much un-fuck-up-able. Steep it how you like it -- what's the fucking point if you don't like what you make??

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>>4299804

Hahahahahaha faggot.

>> No.4299916

I found out that when it gets too bitter, you can just put some drops of lemon in it and it goes back to normal.
It works with coffee too, when it goes old i just put some two drops of lemon in it.

>> No.4299918

>>4299782
you are objectively wrong, but whatever, stay pleb if you want.

>> No.4300366

>>4297444
>Is decaf tea any good?

the shop i go to carries CO2 decaf blends of some of the most popular blends they sell

there's also white tea (very little caffeine content/cup) as well as herbal teas, which depending the blend have no caffeine at all.

explore shit nigga

>> No.4300371

>>4299782
Countries with strong tea culture:
>lists the step to making tea if you live in a Detroit trailer park

You are the worst fucking kind of person. You probably think ketchup and steak is good too.