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4773095 No.4773095[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

So your chicken might be coming from China now that import ban is lifted. How long until the first outbreak?

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/dont-trust-chicken-nugget-thats-160339774.html

>> No.4773109

guess i'm not eating any more chicken

>> No.4773115

but the label on the package says what farm the chicken's from anyway?
i'll just not buy the one that says "ham ga chan, buttfuck province, china"

>> No.4773118

>>4773115
no you're misreading that. the made in america label was made in america.

>> No.4773121

>>4773095
To be clear though, was that article saying that only processed chicken like nuggets, patties, etc are included? Either way- oh god, between this and in vitro meat...only local for me I guess. Too bad I don't have the budget for that.

>> No.4773122

>>4773095
>Initially, at least, the chickens will be slaughtered in the U.S. (or another nation that's allowed to export slaughtered chicken to the U.S.), then shipped to China for processing and re-export.

What the hell am I even reading? They are killing the chickens here, shipping the carcass to china to be processed, then shipping it back here to be consumed?

Holy Shit. By the looks of it this is mainly for "processed' chicken foods like nuggets and other mystery meat, so at least there's that. Plus I buy my chicken from the same farm anyway.

But damn that's stupid.

>> No.4773130

>>4773122
Not for the rich white and chinese guys who own the operation. They're estatic.

Makes you wonder who's gonna eat this stuff in the US. Any fast food chain will get their reputation ruined if they announce it and places like costco wouldn't sell nuggets from china.

>> No.4773133

>>4773130
that's just it-there is no way for the consumer to know. So frozen foods like stouffers in the US might source from several vendors, some might include this product, or some McD's fast food nuggets. You won't know, and chances are most lower level employees won't either.

>> No.4773141

It's not in the nuggets. A virus can't survive that heat. It will most likely happen in the processing.

>> No.4773142

>>4773133
Yea.. and they can still say things like "Raised in the USA" but wait, it was processed in china along with the breading, spices, and frying.

I wouldn't be surprised if Wendy's got in on this. 4pc for $1? Yeah they'd look to cut costs.

>> No.4773149

>>4773130
They're still killing it in the US, sending it half way around the world, processing it in China, and then presumably shipping it another half way around the world back to the US. It's quite ridiculous to think that all the costs associated with shipping the chicken (which would include refrigeration and all that while it's being processed at at least four different shipping terminals) would be justified by the reduction in cost for labor.

>> No.4773156

>>4773149
china is just that cheap.
they'll wall off an entire district for your factory and declare it a tax-free zone for however many years.
even set up a barracks for your workforce to sleep in.

>> No.4773160

>>4773149
I don't know.. factories, workers with benefits, unions, and so forth can get pricey.

It's like Meritline: they can ship me an hdmi cable for $1 across the biggest ocean in the world and still be in business.

I think the biggest consumers will be the upper Chinese. They'd buy US chickens at a premium over Chinese ones.

>> No.4773162

>>4773122
How could that possibly be profitable? you need two facilities, with two completely different staffs, and shipping both ways.

And we already staff our chicken processors with illegal immigrants paid sub-minimum wages. Even if the labor in china were literally free, it seems cost ineffective.

>> No.4773165

>>4773156
Gotta love globalization. Win/win for everybody! Fatties can still buy their $1 chicken sandwiches and companies can still make money.

>> No.4773170

>>4773162
>regulations
>unions
>labor laws
>minimum wage

There are a lot of little things that add up that can be completely ignored by sending it overseas.

>> No.4773176

>>4773170
which, again, they're already ignoring here with a bunch of illegals.

>> No.4773186

>>4773176
why bother with illegals when china will set you up with your own autonomous district

>> No.4773187

>>4773176
There are still a ton of regulations and food safety laws that have to be observed. Plus not every major corporation staffs their company with illegals.

>> No.4773195

>>4773170
sadly our system rewards those who race to the bottom instead of bringing unions, labor laws etc to evrywhere else.

>> No.4773209

>>4773160
>I don't know.. factories, workers with benefits, unions, and so forth can get pricey.
It depends on the state. It's not nearly as expensive in the south as it is in the rustbelt, which is why pretty much all new manufacturing is happening there.

>>4773156
Labor costs in China have been rising for a while, and as many businesses found out, whatever the government will approve in a day can also be dismantled in a day. I'm not necessarily saying that it will be more expensive, it's just hard for me to believe that it will be any cheaper.

>> No.4773214

>>4773209
call me crazy, but I think some of the allure will be in the absence of OSHA and also waste removal. The EPA watches that shit pretty closely and permitting and processes are a damn site more expensive than "go dump it behind the factory."

>> No.4773388

Chinese food product safe. Is only bad talk and slander that chinese food product is unsafe.

China #1 at food processing.

>> No.4773486

>>4773388
you must be the same guy they pay to spam /b/ with
>sex tape must see too hot you will cumming

>> No.4773583

Where do you think we'll see this being sold first?

>> No.4773612 [DELETED] 

>>4773095

Doesn't it take...like...a month for a boat to cross the Pacific?

>> No.4773671

>>4773115
tell me more about this buttfuck province

>> No.4773678

>>4773612
Nigga, I don't think it even takes a month to get to the moon.

>> No.4773681

>>4773612
2-3 weeks depending on conditions

>> No.4773685

Well, for one, I'd point out that this is once again newscasting focused on sensationalism and capitalizing on the hefty anti-China yellow scare American underclasses have been living under for ages now. The chicken is most likely to be just as safe as domestically factory-produced chicken, which is to say, just as shit as everything else.

For second, holy cow I wouldn't touch that stuff with a ten foot pole. But I guess you're screwed in burgerland now, since you've completely given up on consumer protection laws.

>> No.4773687

>>4773671
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=butt%20fuck%20nowhere

>> No.4773692

>>4773095
Why did the Chinese chicken cross the Pacific ocean?

>> No.4773695

>>4773692
To exploit lax regulations and cheap labor that takes advantage of poor people.

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4773765

>>4773687
>Buttfuck Nowhere and not West Bubblefuck

>> No.4773811

So instead of water injected chicken now I'm getting lead injected chicken.

No more foul for me.

>> No.4773818

>>4773765
>not Cousinfuck, Nebraska

>> No.4773850

>>4773811
lead is expensive, if they want to save money they'll just add dirt to the spice flour mix on the nuggets to pad it

>> No.4773864

This is good news. I love eating chinese poison.

>> No.4774154

Harden up faggots. I moved to china over a year ago and eat local produce errday, haven't been sick once

>> No.4774177

>>4773122

that was the thing that pissed me off the most, how can you be so fucking wasteful? the world we're living in right now is so fucking gone its pathetic.

>> No.4774183

>>4773170

yeah, cuz' making money is all that matters. faggots like you make me sick.

>> No.4774192

>>4774183
look a few posts up and follow the conversation, champ.
he's not advocating, he's explaining.

>> No.4774198

A billion people eat chinese chickens.

And it's American food processing standards that are the problem, the Communist Party actually reflects consumer opinion in many cases.

>> No.4774215

mfw everyone says typical anti-China fear mongering Buy America bullshit without realizing why this is happening:

>What was the USDA thinking when it decided to sign-off on Chinese processed chicken exports for humans? Probably not the best interest of American consumers. Rather, U.S. beef and poultry producers have long sought to have the restrictions lifted in hope of encouraging Beijing to reciprocate and open its huge market to more U.S. meat exports (U.S. beef is currently banned for import into China).

>> No.4774220

>>4774177
They can be so wasteful because its cheaper. The cost of running factories, paying worker salaries, paying insurances, etc, makes doing business in the U.S. quite expensive. It is literally cheaper to ship it to China, let the chinese do it, and ship it back, than it is to do it here.

>> No.4774241

>>4774215
with good reason, Australian and Japanese beef here is superior to your hormone infested amerishit we would end up receiving, no way any reasonable American with quality beef would bother shipping out here

>> No.4774254

>>4774215
That's a good thing though. US companies sell products in China, Chinese companies sell products in the US. If there's tension between two nations, removing trade barriers is certainly a step forward. If only guns had as little protectionism.

>> No.4774255

What in the flying fuck?
Buying regular cheap products from China was bad enough now they want to buy food from them?
They sell FAKE eggs and noodles made out of plastics.
I'm looking for the video of the Vietnamese woman who melted her noodles like candle wax after she said that they tasted weird.
China is the worst place to buy food products from.
Anyone else going to start growing their own food from now on like me?

>> No.4774257

>>4773695
No you boob, to get to the other side.

>> No.4774259

>>4774255
Found it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtZp1dP3yAA
I seriously hope none of you buy any food products from China. You have to be careful to check where the food come from too. China knows that some countries will not buy their products if they know it's from China and will claim that it was created elsewhere.

>> No.4774260

>>4773095
>Chickens; Mexicans of the sea.

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4774269

>>4773095
Starving for the chicken nugger

>> No.4774264

>>4774255
>Anyone else going to start growing their own food from now on like me?
Do you own a TV?

>> No.4774271

>>4774254
>That's a good thing though.
Enjoy eating your Made in China food on your Made in China lead cookware.

>> No.4774276

>>4774264
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0US7JEfhsrA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T55tz4qwFMo

Have some fake eggs. They make your dick much bigger.

>> No.4774279

>>4774276
All your seeds for your garden come from Monsanto. Enjoy!

>> No.4774281

>>4774279
>implying you can't find a single regular fruit/vegetable seed in the US
I hope you love eating plastic and chemicals shaped into ovals!

>> No.4774293

>>4774281
>implying you can't find a single regular fruit/vegetable seed in the US
Where did you get your seeds from?

>> No.4774295

>>4774293
In a dark alley from a guy in a hooded jacket at 3 in the morning

>> No.4774299

>>4774295
It was a Monsanto dealer.

>> No.4774301

>>4774299
No I dont think so. I couldn't see his face and he was twitching a lot, but he was a nice guy.

>> No.4774791

>>4774260
LAWL

>> No.4774835

>>4774276
wow

>> No.4776355
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4776355

>>4773095
>dat feeling when you have a freezer full of your own chicken you raised and butchered yourself
>dat feeling when you have many more on their way to becoming butchering sized roosters; pic related

I stopped buying chicken from stores and restaurants last year, due to it really fucking up my intestines every time I ate any of it. I've not had a single problem with the chicken or eggs I've been raising myself.

>> No.4776359

>>4774279
Just get some heirloom seeds and keep an eye out for SWAT.

>> No.4776428

>>4773095
Not to mention:

>Smithfield Foods, Inc. is the world's largest pork producer and processor. Headquartered in Smithfield, Virginia, it runs facilities in 26 U.S. states, including the largest slaughterhouse and meat-processing plant in the world, located in Tar Heel, North Carolina.[2] It also has operations in Mexico and in 10 European countries, with a global total of over 46,000 employees and an annual revenue of $13 billion.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smithfield_Foods

>U.S. unlikely to block Chinese purchase of Smithfield

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-business/us-business/us-unlikely-to-block-chinese-purchase-of-smithfield/article14139652/

>> No.4776429

>>4776355
>butchered
The term you're looking for is "slaughtered," though you likely also butchered them. Difference is:
Slaughter: killing an animal and preparing its carcass for butchery (removing feathers/skin/etc, taking out innards, draining of blood etc).
Butcher: cutting up a carcass into smaller pieces(quartering a chicken, separating the various primes from a side of beef/pork/etc, deboning etc).

>> No.4776444

>>4776429
Why is this guy being a huge faggot?

>>4776355
That's really cool, did you do any research on chicken diseases so you know if they are healthy or not?

>> No.4776495

>>4774264
You don't eat your TV, genius.

>> No.4776579

>>4776428
"including the largest slaughterhouse and meat-processing plant in the world, located in Tar Heel, North Carolina".
Except for time in the military I've lived in NC all my life. In the east, the piedmont, and now the mountains. I have yet to hear of any city, town or even unincorporated community known as "Tar Heel". It is the common name for sports teams from the University of NC at Chapel Hill. There are some large meat packing plants, but that occurs in any state with a large agricultural base. So much for the validity of you source material. I'm not in favor of importing large amounts of meat from China. A bad idea In fact I have read that the US actually exports large amounts of dark meat chicken simply as a by product of american's moronic obsession with white meat. By the way, that expensive dog food with "chicken as the primary ingredient" that you must feed your canine snowflake? Just where do you think the skins, gristle and scrap from your precious "boneless, skinless breasts, strips and tenders are going?

>> No.4776583

>>4776429
>autism

>>4776444
It's really easy to tell a sick chicken from a healthy one when you've lived around them all your life.

>> No.4777021

Well, glad I'm vegetarian.

>> No.4777079

>Buy Kosher?
>Buy Local?
>Buy Local Kosher?
I mean those Jews will not buy Chinese meat

>> No.4777092

>but muh "helffy "lean" meat!

>> No.4777108

>>4776579
>In fact I have read that the US actually exports large amounts of dark meat chicken simply as a by product of american's moronic obsession with white meat.
STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE! So what if the US exports the chicken that Americans don't like? How is liking one part more than the other moronic? Oh wait, it isn't you just decided now would be a good time to shitpost pointlessly about the US.
>By the way, that expensive dog food with "chicken as the primary ingredient" that you must feed your canine snowflake? Just where do you think the skins, gristle and scrap from your precious "boneless, skinless breasts, strips and tenders are going?
No fucking shit. Did anyone seriously think dogs were getting the same quality of food as humans?

>> No.4777131

>>4777108
You're talking to a retard. Best to just walk away.

>> No.4777285

PROUD TO BE GROWN IN AMERICA.

Disclaimer small print sometimes smudged off: procesed in china