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4784438 No.4784438[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Give me one reason I shouldn't serve gumbo over (firm, non-mushy) oats, rather than rice.

>> No.4784445

No.

>> No.4784456

>>4784445
I'm serious.

>> No.4784580

>>4784438
because it would be fucking nasty.
are you by chance, a Yankee?

>> No.4784582

>>4784438
do you even know how to gumbo?

>> No.4784584

Try it. Just because rice is the norm doesn't mean you can't try something different.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is retard.

>>4784580
The Acadians that created gumbo were French Canadian.

>> No.4784588

>>4784438
fucking Quaker. go back to Pennsylvania with your oat lovin ass.

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>>4784438
I have lost all faith in mankind

>> No.4784611

>>4784593
>>4784588
>>4784582
>>4784580

OP here, I legitimately don't see why this would be a bad thing. It MIGHT be bad, sure, but I have a feeling it won't.

Care to explain why I'm wrong?

>> No.4784617

>>4784584
no shit. they however, did not put oats in it. also, they didn't come up with it in its present form until they had been well established in Louisiana. gumbo is an African word, it means okra. also, take doesn't mean someone from the north. it refers to WASPS from the northeast and Ohio river valley. Acadian's (cajuns) are Catholic abd not from New England or the upper Midwest. for example, someone from Montana is not a Yankee.

>> No.4784618

>>4784588
Actual Friend/Quaker here.
Don't put him in leagues with us. None of the other Friends I know would ever put gumbo with oats. Ever.

>> No.4784620

Oats are too strong in flavor. Rice is used because it has very little of its own flavor, contrasting with the strong flavors in gumbo.

This sounds like another quinky sauce style idea.

>> No.4784622

Bleh on oats but it'd be fine on grits, cousous, pasta, dumplings, egg noodles or mashed potatoes.

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>>4784588
>mfw I just realised you were referencing Quaker Oats Company and not talking about actual Friends/Quakers
Derp on me.

>> No.4784645

>>4784617
*yankee

>> No.4784667

So far only this guy >>4784620 has given an actual reason. And it's one I'm not convinced of, since in my experience oats aren't particularly strong tasting, and even if they are, the flavors might blend well. Equally they might not, but I still want to give it a go.

Everyone else has just said eeewwwwwwwwww... Seriously, /ck/? That the best you've got?

>> No.4784702

And, I really don't see how this is disgusting enough to be on the same level as that quinky bullshit.

It's replacing one grain in a dish for another, which might at absolute worst not taste as good. I'm not putting ketchup or any other heavily processed sauce on a prime cut of meat, or anything like that, I'm just switching out rice for oats. Maybe it won't be great, but is really it that horrifying that even the thought of it makes you sick?

>> No.4784710

texture wise i think it would blend into the gumbo and make it unnoticable not to mention the mouth feel. also the taste could be to cardboardy

>> No.4784754

>>4784438

None, really. Oats weren't a staple crop of the area the dish was developed in, though.

You could serve it over yucca if you wanted to.

>> No.4784771

>>4784754
that sounds interesting. never thought about how starchy they are. thanks

>> No.4784779

>>4784754
>muh staple muh authenticity

Bro, I have chili without beans or tomatoes, and with chunks of meat instead of ground. But I do so for taste reasons. Honestly was rice even a staple though? Is rice grown in the US at all at any notable quantity?

>> No.4784781

well I guess you could. but where I live gumbo is mostly tomato, okra, shrimp, maybe some polish ( a generic term no offense to Poles) sausage. over rice. seasoned with texas pete. an odd name since it is made in NC.. But I guess no different than buffallo wings in NYC wich by the way, is not the entire state, any more than Washington (DC) is like the state. just cause you get some taters from Idaho don't mean, that's all they grow, or corn from Nebraska. or spam from Hhawiaw ( ya fing howlee) though they() we would like to think so, the capital of the world is not la, atlanta, dallas, tokyo, london or paris, nor cariro or tel avie. or damascus, moscow or bejing. it is the people. try not to offend them and take no shit, but remember, you are a guest. hope your momma or some one tought you this. otherwise a hard lesson to learn.

>> No.4784787

>>4784779
I had to check, but apparently it was brought to Louisiana in the 18th century and cultivated there, hence rice and gumbo.

Who gives a fuck though? If those fags were there when gumbo was developing they would be claiming you can't add okra and rice because it isn't "authentic enough".

>> No.4784791

>>4784787
I suppose so, but I'm really just asking because I want to get a little advice before I try this and go and waste a whole portion of gumbo. If everyone thinks it will be terrible for a reason other than "eeeewwwwwwwwww!" then I won't bother.

>> No.4784796

>>4784620
>>4784710

these two look better than most

most people claim authenticity but its really up to you. after all you're the one eating it

>> No.4784799

>>4784779
Arkansas alone grows more rice than all of Europe combined.

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>>4784779

>Honestly was rice even a staple though? Is rice grown in the US at all at any notable quantity?

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>>4784796
Yeah, those are decent posts. To the second one though - I'm talking oats cooked to be like pic related, not sloppy stuff.

Fuck, I don't know, I'll probably just try it anyway.

>> No.4784818

>>4784814
i honestly still think you will loose it regardless. maybe you could use some raw oats to thicken it along with your roux

>> No.4784837

>>4784799
>Arkansas alone grows more rice than all of Europe combined.
Rice doesn't come from Europe and Europe doesn't have sufficient environment for rice cultivation... not sure why you picked that continent.

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>>4784837

>> No.4784877

>>4784874
lol exactly

haha

>> No.4784934

>>4784837
Your premise is faulty.
Italy, Greece, Spain, Portugal and Malta, amongst others, all grow rice, but Arkansas outbeats their combined outputs. Slovenia, Croatia, Albania, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Romania, Turkey etc etc etc lots of countries grow rice. Hungary, Ukraine, France, etc etc etc. See?
If we take wild rice into account (which is unrelated to rice, actually), Hungary grows a fucktonne. Most of the wild rice consumed is grown there, IIRC.

>>4784874
Lulz.

>> No.4784947

>>4784934
>If we take wild rice into account (which is unrelated to rice, actually),
It is definitely related.

>> No.4784953

>>4784947
So it is! But distantly. All other rice is Oryzeae Oryza (sticky, arborio, long grain, short grain, pearl etc) while wild is Oryzeae Zizania.
I stand corrected, danke.

>> No.4784960

>>4784934
Europe isn't a major rice producer, I'm not sure why one would compare them to American rice production. It makes no sense.

>Does America even grow corn?
>Iowa produces more corn than all Micronesian islands combined

>> No.4784964

sometimes I hate you /ck/

>> No.4784971

>>4784964
i'm never normally one to say this but

>muh traditions

Fuck off.

>> No.4784985

>>4784960
That's absurd.
Rice is eaten more in Europe than in the US, yet a single US state produces more rice than all of Europe does. The US is a major rice producer. Europe is a major rice consumer so you'd expect it would be a major producer as well, but it isn't.
Micronesia isn't a major anything. It's not even a single agreed upon entity. Who cares what they do.

>> No.4784996

>>4784985
OP here. My point when I said that was that I wasn't convinced that rice was even particularly staple to the US, since it's originally from Asia anyway (isn't it?) and seems to only be part of 'US cuisine' in the South anyway. I'm basically saying, rice isn't even from here, why the fuck not try gumbo with firm oats?

>> No.4784999

>>4784996
I think rice is from north Africa originally, not sure. I know that before the Islamic conquest of India, the staple grains there were millet and semolina, not rice.

>> No.4785006

>>4784999
I'm mistaken. There is an African variety of rice that was brought to India by the mohammedans and subsequently interbred with Asian varieties to produce Oryza Indica.
Sorry about that.

>> No.4785137

has anyone thought maybe don't use oats
beans dry, then rehydrated, or lentils, or other legums would be a nice change instead of over rice.
You think it might be alright, but then you realize your eating slitghly chewy tasteless mush with gumbo across the top.

>> No.4785222

>>4784611
You're not. It is GUMBO, however that method is not traditional is all.

>> No.4785224

>>4784996
Rice is not from Asia, no.

>> No.4785232

I think oats are too starchy. You want rice, which remains solid and individual rather than oats, which will turn mushy and become lost in the gumbo.

But try it OP. Take pictures and tell us how it is. I've had savory oatmeal before and it's pretty decent.

>> No.4785235

>>4785224
The oldest known strain is, actually.

>> No.4785238

>>4785224
>Genetic evidence has shown that rice originates from a single domestication 8,200–13,500 years ago,[3] in the Pearl River valley region of China.[4] Previously, archaeological evidence had suggested that rice was domesticated in the Yangtze River valley region in China.[3] From East Asia, rice spread to Southeast and South Asia.[4] Rice was introduced to Europe through Western Asia, and to the Americas through European colonization.

>> No.4785264

>>4784438
OP try it and tell us how it goes.

>> No.4787054

>>4784787
>can't add okra and rice because it isn't "authentic enough".
Gumbo comes from a word meaning "okra", you tit.

>> No.4787058

>>4784617
Somebody just got #rekt

>> No.4787062

>>4784787
You're confusing putting beans in chili with okra in gumbo. Fuck you.

>> No.4787090

>>4784617
>gumbo is an African word
Is "bonjour" a European word too?

>> No.4787107

>>4784438
rice is a grain
Oats are grains
Give it a shot and post results. Asking permission to make food and then defending your idea on the internet is stupid. Just cook it already.

>> No.4787580

Steamed salted barley would be delicious with gumbo over it

>> No.4788115

no oats are crap they are flavorless and will be filler and swallowed without flavor or taste

and they have anti effect to flavor

I tried savory oats before

>> No.4788458

>>4784438
give me a reason why I shouldn't use oats instead of rice in the jambalaya I'm making today.