/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.5460370]

I do not know ow what planet you live on but bringing kids into a nice restaurant is incredibly bad form. If you can't afford a babbysitter then you can't afford to go out to dinner.

[Anonymous No.5460372]

>>5460370
>this shit again

Go be stupid somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.5460373]

>>5460370
It's gone beyond stupid

[Anonymous No.5460374]

>>5460370
Agreed.
Plus kids tip even worse than blacks

[Anonymous No.5460377]

>>5460370
Forgot link sorry.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/17/tech/social-media/apparently-this-matters-fine-dining-babies-alinea/

[Anonymous No.5460406]

>>5460370
I agree. Inb4 people who ruined their lives defending bad manners.

[Anonymous No.5460421]

>>5460377

That was 99% too tryhard, but:
>Alinea, which has the incredibly rare distinction of being awarded three stars by a renowned tire company.

was mildly amusing

[Anonymous No.5460514]

>>5460370

There's nothing wrong with taking kids to restaurants, but the parents need to make sure their kids behave. How else are the kids going to learn to behave when they grow up?

[Anonymous No.5460519]

>>5460514
>How else are the kids going to learn to behave when they grow up?
Teach them at home and not on my time.

[Anonymous No.5460522]

Entirely depends on the age and personality of the child.
I know kids that are better behaved than most adults, and I know kids that will throw a tantrum at the drop of a hat.

[Anonymous No.5460531]

>>5460522
agree, if your child is well behaved (at least most of the time, I don't mind a couple loud moments or whatever) then that's cool, but if you have a screamer and you take it to a nice restaurant then FUCK YOU because you're ruining the experiences of a whole bunch of people just because you didn't want to get a babysitter

[Anonymous No.5460544]

I think that sometimes too (if your kid is loud).

But I also think, if I had a kid, I wouldn't give a shit. Like, you've had a kid, you've got a family, so you've fulfilled the purpose of being social. Why would you continue to care about what other people think of you when you can just live inside the bubble of your family? It's not like someone in the restaurant is going to actually risk making an ass of themselves to come tell you off about bringing your kid.

[Ruby !!iPJbBu5S79g No.5460552]

>If you can't afford to ______, you can't afford to go out to dinner

I swear, it's the same faulty logic that waiters use when they feel we should be obligated to tip them.

[Anonymous No.5460562]

I would patronize a restaurant preferentially if it had "nobody under the age of 18" and "quiet the fuck down" policies.
Loud children, loud retards, loud anything, is not what I want when I'm paying out the ass for restaurant food.

[Anonymous No.5460569]

>>5460562
It might be what other people are paying out the ass for though, it's not all about you.

[Anonymous No.5460738]

>>5460552
You are goddamn right. If you can't afford to tip or hire a baby sitter then it's fast food for you.
Why is this so difficult to understand?

[Anonymous No.5460754]

If you can't afford to pay the waiters 25% of your bill PLUS TIP then you can't afford to go out to dinner.

[Anonymous No.5460755]

>>5460738
>can't afford to tip

Get fucked, loser. It's not our job to pay your wages.

[Anonymous No.5460764]

>>5460370

Fuck that how about I will just make sure my kids aren't little shits and if they start up I will immediately take them home and beat them (not literally beat them but you know, discipline the shit out of them)?

It's pretty amazing how well behaved kids can be if you just don't ever let them act like that. But I take them everywhere I go. They're my kids, I'm not leaving them with someone else all the time. But they act right not only because I care about being polite, but because I want them to grow up into well-adjusted adults used to moving about in society.

If they didn't act right, I wouldn't subject you to them as that would be rude. There may be moments where they don't act right but I take them outside immediately and get their shit together. Children are a part of society. I respect if you choose not to have them and I won't make you help care for my kids or anything but it isn't my duty to shield you from having to see them or hear them (at socially acceptable volumes).

[Anonymous No.5460778]

>>5460370
>bringing kids into a nice restaurant is incredibly bad form.
Depends. I don't expect to see kids at a white tablecloth joint, the same way I don't expect to see them at a bar (or wine bar). But they're not out of place at a decent restaurant or beer garden, as long as they're well-behaved.

But I even find it weird to see 20-somethings at fine dining establishments. Fine dining used to be something your rich aunt and uncle did. Now urban kids with high paying jobs flood the better restaurants. It seems like the food has been dumbed down as a result. I enjoy burgers and street food flavors as much as the next guy, but that's not what I'm looking for when I'm dropping serious coin on a meal out. But the kids love that shit.

[Anonymous No.5460800]

>>5460514
Not make training them everybody else's problem for starters.

[Anonymous No.5460816]

I certainly don't expect to see kids in an upscale restaurant but if you're at an average place you have to realize that kids need to eat too, not every restaurant visit is planned out ahead of time. Maybe they've been on a road trip and that place just happened to be on the way.

But yeah if you're at some really fancy place I can see getting frustrated if there are loud kids. A babysitter would probably cost less than the food.

[Anonymous No.5460831]

>>5460764
Family for you my friend.
That can be pretty darn nice as long as family is on the sign somewhere.
But top tier is right out until you are you done rearing slobberlings.

[Anonymous No.5460832]

>>5460816
>A babysitter would probably cost less than the food.
Well said. If the kid's meal costs more than a babysitter it's probably not a place for kids. And it isn't fair to put them in that kind of situation. A meal spread out over several courses, with dessert and drinks after can take upward of two hours to eat. Asking a kid to sit quietly at the table for more than an hour is cruel. They're not designed for that.

[Anonymous No.5460852]

>>5460755

You make well below the median income, don't even try to justify yourself poorfag.

[Anonymous No.5461124]

>>5460832
Good point.
Everyone loses when you bring kids to a restaurant.
Society is changing, it was ok in the 50s to bring kids in buy not today.
Please stop.

[Anonymous No.5461550]

Honestly even a well behaved child ruins my meal.
Just no wing they could start acting out at any moment is like a sword of damocles hanging over the meal.
Best to leave them home.

[Anonymous No.5462150]

It's pic related for you breeder types until your kids are out of the house.

[Anonymous No.5462162]

>OP mad because his dirtpoor parents never took him to a reataurant as a kid

[Anonymous No.5462169]

>>5462150
inb4 people who ruined their lives yelling about the gays

[Anonymous No.5462181]

Kid acts up take parents plate slam it in there face.

[ETHANOL No.5462183]

>>5460370

Yea, no kids at nice restaurants even if they are mostly well behaved, people are paying good money for a nice experience away from that noise and it's bad form to show up with kids. Mid tier places are fine for kids but please make sure they are still and quiet. If they can't be quiet there is McDonalds and CiCi's pizza.

[Anonymous No.5462206]

I'm cool with kids in a restaurant as long as it has been clearly established in their minds that they're getting whipped with dad's leather belt as soon as they get home if they get out of their seat, scream, or throw food

[Anonymous No.5462217]

>Growing up
>Middle class family
>Both parents work
>Don't go out to eat very often
>Usually if my sister and I had good report cards, we'd go out
>One chinese restaurant that we all really enjoyed
>The usual americanized chinese food, as well as more traditional stuff
>Every time we'd go there, we'd always sit in the same area
>Have to go through a set of doors to get to this part of the restaurant
>Fast forward to a few years ago
>Finish college, taking my family out to eat
>Mother suggests the chinese restaurant
>We get there, same staff, recognize my parents, good times
>We sit in an entirely different section of the restaurant, through a set of doors on the opposite side of the restaurant
>Ask the server why
>He answers that they put families with kids in the other section so that they noise is contained
>Also says that the bar is separated as well, so the karaoke on Saturday nights doesn't annoy the families
>MFW the owners had the right idea all along, and enough space to make it work

[Smith the CIA Agent No.5462220]

>>5462206
why would they get out of their seat, scream or throw food if they know how to behave? It's not like you're bringing a wild chimp into the place, it's a child/children, they should have been taught how to behave properly.

If a 4 year old doesn't understand when is shut up and sit still time and when is play time, then something has gone wrong in the parenting stage.

[Anonymous No.5462224]

>>5462217
This really ought to be more common.

[Anonymous No.5462225]

>>5462150

some of the most brainwashed, poorly-behaved little shits I ever dealt with in my entire educational life were the "children" of faggot couples, especially true of lesbians

fags don't know how to discipline children, if they had parents who cared enough to discipline them growing up they wouldn't have turned out into faggots in the first place

[Anonymous No.5462230]

>>5462220

Because that's what kids do when they're bored. Sitting at a restaurant enjoying conversation and food is boring to them. If they don't fear the consequences of disrespecting their parents like that, they'll go right ahead.

[ETHANOL No.5462232]

>>5462217
Awesome idea, that sounds like a good place and that owner knows. It reminds me of when there used to be smoking in restaurants and they'd put the smokers in one half and the non smokers in the other. More places should split it up so the kids and riff raff college kids are on one side and the quiet couples wanting a nice dinner date on the other.

I like what he's doing, sounds like a good place.

[Anonymous No.5462234]

>>5462225
>all these latent homosexuality and sexual identity issues

far be it for me to question the motives of a gay person in education, but in your case I think I'd make an exception

[Anonymous No.5462248]

>>5462232

>Smoking sections in restaurants

Oh man, you have no idea how many of my younger friends and family members don't remember those, and they think I'm lying when I tell that that you used to be able to smoke with your meal.

[Anonymous No.5462254]

>>5462234

>he dislikes something about gay people, so he must be gay

I'd call your reasoning cliched and completely lacking any basis in reality, but I bet you're the thickheaded liberal type who believes that the majority of people are gay too. So I'll just tell you to fuck off back to redditt, you fucking fag.

[Anonymous No.5462266]

>>5462254
>who believes that the majority of people are gay too

You're the one who thinks that kids become gay if you don't bend them over and spank them with leather at the drop of a hat.

You know you can't "turn gay", any more than a gay person can "turn straight", right? You know that you, in fact, are gay, right? That if you think you're "choosing to be straight" it's a big fat lie and your reality will come crashing down on you in time.

You've got some issues to deal with, and unfortunately it seems you think being in charge of other people's kids is a replacement for having a therapist. I hope you don't do any serious damage.

[ETHANOL No.5462270]

>>5462230
>fear the consequences of disrespecting their parents

There has to be some element of fear for them to learn to behave and respect customs, I'm all for spanking kids in a non abusive way if the situation calls. I didn't get spanked often because I learned that my actions had consequences. Usually if I got out of line my dad would grab a random belt and make a loud popping noise with it and I knew that I was getting out of line and would straighten up quick, didn't get spanked unless I kept doing something wrong but I learned that the pop meant stop.

Does anyone even spank kids anymore? I feel like the young ones have become disrespectful pussies these days, and I feel old. I was spanked by the famously feared principals paddle in second grade for skipping choir class and hiding under a tire in the playground. Learned some respect, earned some respect, and didn't skip class again.

[ETHANOL No.5462278]

>>5462248
Yea it was always quicker to get a table in the smoking section because nobody wanted in there except smokers and people too hungry to give a fuck. I smoke but I'm glad we aren't smoking in restaurants anymore, it's gross. But I miss smoking in bars, banning that is going too far.

[Smith the CIA Agent No.5462283]

>>5462230
So? Bring a book, a piece of paper and pen. Keep them entertained in a manner that does not involve them moving around or raising their voice.

Hell, that's what I did before smart phones and tablets. With smart phones and apps, have them listen to a podcast, play a game or something. If they insist on moving around, have a parent escort them out of the premises and go for a walk outside and come back when they no longer wish to behave in a inappropriate manner.

[Anonymous No.5462290]

>>5462266

let's assume that you were attractive rather than an obese tumblr SJW, stick you in a room with a homophobe, and have you come on to them in a situation where it was absolutely guaranteed that nobody would or could know about it except you two. I'm sure that experiment ends well for you.

Your knee-jerk "if you dislike gay activism, you're gay" defense assumes an awful lot about people you don't know, and I'm sure you wouldn't be willing to gamble on that like so because it clearly has no scientific or logical basis. It's just a weakass redirection meant to put a homophobe on the defensive because they naturally wouldn't like being called gay.

[Smith the CIA Agent No.5462291]

>>5462270
My mom would spank the hell out of me when I fucked up. In hindsight, I deserved it every single time.

It's not that I enjoy physically punishing people but sometimes, it's the only way to tell them how much they've fucked it up. But most of the time, a stern talking to would already make me cry like baby because no only was I told how much I've disappointed them but how much I've disappointed myself.

[Anonymous No.5462293]

>>5462283
Why go through all that?
Just leave them at home or take them to chucky cheese.
No one wants to even see your kid at a nice place.
They don't belong there.

Of course I am talking about America. Not sure what Canadians do.

[Anonymous No.5462294]

>>5462290
Not the guy you're talking to, but "if you dislike gay activism, you're gay" doesn't really describe your position considering you were saying you dislike gays in general.

[Anonymous No.5462295]

>>5462270

damn you're old

[Anonymous No.5462302]

>>5462293
Smith's in New Zealand.

But Canadians, in my experience, follow that general model. Well behaved kids are ok. Annoying kids are not. Kids loose restaurant going rights if they break teh rules, and you try again 6ish months later.

[Anonymous No.5462303]

>>5462290
>
let's assume that you were attractive rather than an obese tumblr SJW, stick you in a room with a homophobe, and have you come on to them in a situation where it was absolutely guaranteed that nobody would or could know about it except you two. I'm sure that experiment ends well for you.

I'm sorry can you rewrite that in non-internet-speak? Or better yet, keep your homoerotic fantasies to yourself, I'm sure it adds nothing of value to this conversation.

[Anonymous No.5462305]

>>5462295
Sheeeeeit I am old enough that I used to smoke on planes.

[Anonymous No.5462316]

>>5462303

good one bro, you win the argument and I concede defeat

[ETHANOL No.5462321]

>>5462291
>>5462291
>stern talking

I got those as I got older and could comprehend what was wrong, they were way worse than and spankings or switchings I got. Just knowing I'd done wrong and disappointed them was the worst part, the spankings never really hurt physically it was just shame.

Dad would pop the belt, mom used "switches", which were little thin branches from a small tree/shrub on the side of the house. If I fucked up too bad she'd send me out to pick my switch and think about what I'd done. Lol I'd walk circles around the shrubbery of shame delaying the inevitable switching until I got bored and finally walked inside with my stalk for her to swat the back of my legs. Half the time I just got hugged and told not to do it again if she could tell I really felt bad about it.

Haven't even thought about all that in a long time, seems so old fashioned looking back. I don't think parents are doing this anymore, they just had the kid an Ipad to distract them into behaving.

[Anonymous No.5462322]

>>5462316

You were destined to lose. For future reference you might teach yourself how to express ideas without depending on flash in the pan slang that only 15 year old social media addicts understand.

[Anonymous No.5462328]

>>5462322
>2014
>being illiterate

I'm just an observer, but you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.5462329]

>>5462303
>keep your homoerotic fantasies to yourself
projecting

[Anonymous No.5462332]

>>5462329

Moving the goalposts

[Anonymous No.5462335]

>>5462332
Damage control

[Anonymous No.5462338]

>>5462332
straw man

[Anonymous No.5462343]

>>5460562
You do realize how much money they would lose and that would translate to shit food? Of course you dont, youre stupid

[Anonymous No.5462345]

>>5462303

How do you not know what "tumblr SJW" means? Do you never go on this website, or have you just never heard of google?

[Anonymous No.5462428]

>>5462343
You have no idea how many people hate children.

[Anonymous No.5462564]

>>5462428
I personally love children but I could never eat a whole one.

[Anonymous No.5462582]

>>5462343
>implying restaurants that lose money have worse food that profitable ones.
you're a damn fool.

[Anonymous No.5462593]

>working in a restaurant

If you're a hot waitress and/or at a higher end place sure. If you're working through college or have a stake int he damn business, okay. But otherwise, what the fuck are you doing? Are you a border jumper?

[Anonymous No.5462741]

I think that if your kids cause a scene in a restaurant, the dishwashers should be allowed to molester them.
Those little fuckers will quiet right down.

[Anonymous No.5463011]

>>5460374
when i was a kid i tipped 20% every time

[Anonymous No.5463237]

There are restaurants that are upscale that only rich people with taste can eat at. At these establishments you don't have to worry about the plebe class bringing in their little ankle biters.

Then there are the other restaurants of the world where you can reliably get a burger and coke and fries for less than 10 dollars. The menu prices at these establishments don't weed out the plebe class and even rich people with class should feel free to bring their kids to these places and ruin plebe idiots dinners.

[Anonymous No.5464281]

I think it's okay so long as the children are quiet and well behaved so that you don't even notice them ("children should be seen and not heard" applies here)

[Anonymous No.5464302]

>>5460370
No shit. Everyone knows that. The only people that bring kids to restaraunts are morons (Americans) who think that "The Customer is Always Right"

> why should I have to hire a babysitter?
cause youre not the only one in the world.

[Anonymous No.5464306]

>>5462278
> But I miss smoking in bars, banning that is going too far.

the only places where i can still smoke indoors is fucking a pool hall. fucking lame.

[Anonymous No.5464786]

>>5464306
I am amazed you can even smoke there.

In Europe everyone still smokes so it's not such a big deal.

[Anonymous No.5464865]

I think we should let the kids into nice restaurants but they have to smoke the whole time.

[Anonymous No.5464934]

>>5463237

I love being rich for exactly this reason. It's one of the intangible benefits that most people don't realize.

Do I want a nice dinner out with no kids? I can afford that.

Do I want to slum it with the plebs and my kids? Yeah I can do that and my kids can be loud as fuck... hahahaha fuck the plebs.

[Anonymous No.5465634]

>>5464934
Do you want to troll high-class diners with whiny brats just because you can?

[Anonymous No.5465853]

I was out with a group of 6 last month and we had out entire meal ruined by one rude family. No screaming but just loud children in general.

[Anonymous No.5465882]

>>5464786
>In Europe everyone still smokes so it's not such a big deal.

Which part of Europe? The big three and a slew of smaller nations banned smoking in public buildings and restaurants last decade.

[Anonymous No.5465904]

>>5465882
No you all smoke.

[Anonymous No.5465910]

>Be me
>Be a child
>Mother brings me and my younger siblings to a nice restaurant as a treat, probably for the first time or close to it
>We start being little shitheads because chilluns
>Mother just straight up drags us out of the restaurant and we don't eat that night
>Never shitheads in a restaurant again

Seriously, it's that simple.

[Anonymous No.5466270]

>>5465910
Better for her never to take you at all anon.
Just the presence of children ruins a meal.

[Anonymous No.5467533]

>>5463011
I remember not tipping when I was a kid.
Makes me embarrassed to think about now kinda like remembering all the stupid shit you said as a child.

[Anonymous No.5469448]

>>5464281
Not many kids today fit that description.
I would rather just ban them than have the awkward position of having to complain.

[Anonymous No.5469458]

>>5466270
>Just the presence of children ruins a meal.
Poor people kids sure. Normal (or non American) kids will sit quietly with their mouths shut the whole meal. And they don't need to aka the chef to make fucking chicken fingers either.

[Anonymous No.5469460]

>>5469458
>And they don't need to aka the chef to make fucking chicken fingers either.

bahhhhhahhaha its funny cause its so true