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I saw these two at my local grocery store today

one tried to get huffy with me when I tried to get some milk. Get those dirty thoughts out of your head you know what kind I am talking about

They were telling me milk is bad for you. Doesn't milk help with Calcium or is that a myth?

>> No.5739452

>>5739435
>Doesn't milk help with Calcium
Its like you've overheard a conversation but don't actually have a real grasp of the concept.

>> No.5739455

the whole DRINK MILK IT MAKE U STRONK GUD BONES stuff is more or less propaganda, but yeah it obviously contains calcium and it's not definitively BAD for you as far as we know now.

inb4 broscience about acne

>> No.5739462

how did trader joes not throw them out?

>> No.5739465

>>5739462

They bought stuff. Namely vegetables, fruits, and nuts

>> No.5739468

>>5739435
On one hand I think they are hot and my distaste for milk would be something I would angle with...on the other hand I think that what they are up to is deplorable. I hate milk because milk fucking sucks...to me. I'm lactarded AND I think milk sucks.

As far as calcium is concerned? Dont' worry about it. If you aren't eating like a fucking manchild you are getting plenty of it...if not? Take a fucking multi-vitamin. It isn't hard. You don't need milk. They also don't need to be such insufferable cunts.

QED

>> No.5739471

I'd like to liberate their udders

amirite?

>> No.5739481

>>5739435
I would have asked these two why they were not protesting at the meat counter, the soda section of the same store, or better yet, at the gas station down the street. As far as social ills go, the dairy industry is a pretty small one.

>> No.5739498

>>5739481
greenhouse emmisions from dairy animals is actually pretty significant not to mention the huge tracts of land destroyed by a single animal and not having a balanced ecosystem to regrow the grass and prevent erosion etc...
It's a bigger issue than would seem but no one points it out very much.
If anything it shows how misguided they are since they are protesting the tiny moral part of the problem when there's a logical and statistical base for a stronger argument against it.

>> No.5739499

>>5739498
animals are part of the carbon cycle. the emissions are carbon neutral.

>> No.5739529

>>5739435
What a bunch of assholes.

>> No.5739703

Wish I saw something like this. I live in a hippy college town, surprised I havent actually seen this yet.... I'd buy a gallon and laugh evily. And look at them in the eyes when I did it. Mmmm.... Liquid violence.....

>> No.5739723

>>5739435
milks only good for bulkan cuz it has fats n protons
you can get calcium from kale n other stuff easily

>> No.5739732

>>5739435
You should have asked them how their clothes were made and justify that. Cows are apparently more important than children (not that I really give a shit either way). It's amusing how idealist can justify certain measures, but none that impede their own lifestyle.

Milk is a solid source of protein and calcium, but if you eat dark greens, you're getting your calcium in spades.

>> No.5739733

>>5739435
>holding up a sign of a cow that says i want to live
>wants to tell cows to fuck off and make them go back to fighting and dying in the wild
>humanity is the best chance cows had of not eventually becoming extinct

>> No.5739735

>>5739435

> Live in vermont
> Liberal hippies everywhere
> Salty farmers
> EVERYONE drinks whole milk
> No fucks given about being tough hombres

>> No.5739736

i would kill the one on the left and steal her leggings

>> No.5739737

>>5739435
So let me get this straight. In America you can protest in a place of business as long as you buy something from them?

>> No.5739739

>>5739733
almost everything we eat has been specifically bred for our consumption and barely resembles its wild ancestors

>> No.5739740

Milk isn't bad for you, but it isn't optimal.

Skim milk or skim milk powder can help boost your protein consumption, but milk isn't nutritionally optimal.

>> No.5739742

>>5739737
>TRADER JOE'S THROWS OUT TWO WOMYN FOR DEFENDING CUTE CUDDLY COWS THAT HUMANS ARE TORTURTING EVERY DAY
that's why they didn't throw them out

>> No.5739743

So what the fuck am I suppose to use on my cereal?

>> No.5739744

>>5739703
>I'd buy a gallon and laugh evily

No, you wouldn't.

>E-e-excuse me, m'lady, can I g-g-get some milk for m-m-my cereal?
>Ew, no. Get away, fatty.
>O-o-okay...

>> No.5739747

>>5739739
yeah, i know, because it wasn't beneficial for them to keep those unnecessary aggressive and other biological traits if they were to become livestock animals

the more aggressive ones didn't reproduce as much, the ones that were tamer did. evolution, bitch. the aggressive ones died out and the livestock animals are now under our care and protection instead of left out in the wild.

>> No.5739751

>>5739703
Then they would make up some story about unwanted physical contact that escalated into attempted rape. You would be sent to prison so fast.

>> No.5739754

>>5739747

What in the fuck are you talking about?

>>5739744
Such an easy solution:
> Mentally undress women as I walk up
> Scores are tallied
> Grab a half gallon of whole milk
> "Blargl Blargl Cows Die"
> Actually understand my local dairy industry
> Buy milk, confident in my choice of milk and future fapbank material.

>> No.5739761

>>5739754
>What in the fuck are you talking about?
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ANIMALS THAT HAVE BEEN DOMESTICATED AND THE REASONS THAT THE ONES THAT WERE DOMESTICATED WON OUT OVER THE BIG STRONG SCARY AGGRESSIVE WILD COUNTERPARTS

BUT GO AHEAD AND KEEP TALKING ABOUT YOUR FAPBANK

>> No.5739767

Chocolate whole milk is delicious

Regular whole milk is probably one of the best+cheapest foods for bulking up while lifting too

>> No.5739769

>>5739761

> Thinks product producing animals were domesticated for tameness, and not product production

Oh you're so silly.

>> No.5739772

>>5739761
It would actually be crueler to NOT buy milk now since 1000s of years of evolution have led to cows that NEED to be milked by humans or they will die

>> No.5739779

>>5739769
of course the animal product was kept in mind you retard, what part of my post implied that it wasn't?

i was just saying that tameness was a desired trait in domesticating animals... what the fuck. shut the fuck up, seriously. i hate you, you're just looking for shit to argue against that i haven't even said.

>>5739772
yeah, and it would be pretty cruel to cut out entire groups of food that are produced and then have a famine or disease wipe out large portions of the remaining food that is produced and have a bunch of people starve to death

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>>5739779
>yeah, and it would be pretty cruel to cut out entire groups of food that are produced and then have a famine or disease wipe out large portions of the remaining food that is produced and have a bunch of people starve to death

uh...what?

>> No.5739791

>>5739772
Do people actually believe this?

Cows produce milk after they are impregnated, like all mammals do. They don't produce otherwise.

>> No.5739798

>>5739465
and? They are discouraging people from shopping there. I don't understand why they weren't kicked out either.
>>5739742
You're telling me people would side with nutjobs like this?

>> No.5739802

>>5739737
It would be the managers decision. He was either an idiot or wasn't told people were doing this. No reasonable businessman would allow someone to harass customers just because they purchased something from the store. Especially when the product they are trying to prevent people from buying has a short shelf life. That could lead to not only the loss of profit, but also the milk's purchasing cost.

>> No.5739803

>>5739798
they wouldnt side with them but they would do anything for fear of no being PC

>> No.5739805

>>5739743
almond milk, soy milk, flax milk etc etc

>> No.5739806

>>5739802
>wasn't told people were doing this
you cant not know if they were there more than 5 minutes

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>>5739435
why didn't you try and suck on their cute little titties instead?
hat the milk your supposed to be drinking, right?

>> No.5739814

why is this thread so fast

>> No.5739818

>>5739814
vegan and tipping thread are abnormally fast here
it's probably because everyone thinks they have something good to say on these topics

>> No.5739820

>>5739818

great reply anon

ya I've been here for a little over 1.5 years but damn I forget how fast these bastards are sometimes

>> No.5739866

I wonder when meat/dairy will be banned in the US

>> No.5739867

>>5739866
when they take my goddamn guns thats when

>> No.5739870

>>5739806
>you cant not know if they were there more than 5 minutes
There are plenty of reasons that the guy couldn't have known. Meeting, lunch, conference call, gone home for the day, etc. A supervisor could have made the decision without informing him too.

Nevertheless the manager was most likely an idiot or to much of a pussy to kick them out.

>> No.5739897 [DELETED] 

>>5739866
Fuck you liberal pussy faggot

>> No.5739910

>>5739733
ancient cows were prolly Aurochs

which were killing machines

>> No.5739915

>>5739910
but they arent anymore so its moot

>> No.5739916

>>5739867
I snickered

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5739953

>>5739435
>I saw these two at my local grocery store today

I would have filled my shopping cart with dairy products just to piss them off, stupid hippies.

>> No.5739996

>>5739435
Dat thigh gap tho

>> No.5740186

why are all the fit ones crazy?

Milk in all its forms is a wonder of civilization.

>> No.5740204

>>5739784
foods are susceptible to pests, disease, and other things

if everyone stopped eating animal products, it meant that any problems like pest and disease on plant crops will be more severe, and could possibly result in people starving to death

of course this is if you're thinking really long-term because it would take a while for the world food supplies to dwindle

but too many people only think short-term anyway

where am i

>> No.5740212

>>5739468
Says the guy trying to white knight some cunts hoping he'll get some out of it. Also, if you have to take a supplement, you're doing something wrong.

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5740223

>>5739498
>the tiny moral part of the problem

>> No.5740245

Tell them to whip out their tits, I'm thirsty and I'm gonna get that milk from somewhere.

>> No.5740257

>>5739435
..But dairy cows are bred for milking, not to be slaughtered for meat. Why not go over to the meat department (it's still retarded but makes a bit more sense).

>> No.5740274

>>5740257

I drink huge quantities of milk, but it's worth knowing that dairy cows need to have recently given birth to produce milk, and those calves are usually used for meat production. There are typically two types of semen used to impregnate them - that from a bull of a dairy breed, used to produce more dairy cows, and that from a bull of a meat (or suckler) breed, used to produce cows that will be raised for meat. The male calves from the dairy breed are worthless, and will usually be slaughtered shortly after birth and disposed of. That's why any vegetarian who consumes dairy products is a dirty hypocrite.

>> No.5740331

>>5739744
I would buy a gallon...then go get almond milk because cows milk tastes fucking rancid.

>similar situation at wholefoods in portland
>crazy woman standing outside ranting about chicken violence
>dont give a fuck
>walk by her
>bags full of beer, wine, cheese, and a cake because it's fucking good cake.
>"THEY BURN THE CHICKENS BREASTS OFF SO THEY DON'T FEEL THE DESIRE TO FEED THEIR YOUNG!"
>legitimately caught me off gaurd
>look her in the eyes
>go bright red
>laugh like a fucking crazed hyena because I couldent control it
>Laugh so hard I see fucking spots and start coughing
>sit down on a bench by he entrance
>get up after laughing fit
>walk to car
>sit in front seat because I'm light headed now
>she looks con confused
I know I have posted this on /ck/ before...but god damn; every time I think about it it gets funnier and funnier. People actually spend time to spread misinformation and sillyness like this under the guise of making a difference,

>> No.5740374

>>5740331
wat
did she think chickens are mammals

>> No.5740411

>http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/calcium-and-milk/

>http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium-full-story/

>http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/07/05/harvard-milk-study_n_3550063.html

Milk certainly isn't good for you and is bad for your bones if anything.

>> No.5740412

ugh, I live in a hippy town and have seen shit like this

>protesters protesting
>start yelling at me as I walk by
>"you know that this is hurting you cause right? that people might actually consider what you're saying if you weren't acting like crazy people?"
>she is silent, a few seconds later a nearby girl yells "WHAT'S CRAZY IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO ANIMALS"
>make eye contact and raise eyebrows to original girl who yelled at me
>walk away

stupid cunts are just trying to find some meaning in life by blindly dedicating themselves to something, I don't think many of them even necessarily care as much about their "cause" as they think they do, or they'd take a more realistic approach to getting their point across.

>> No.5740418

Has anyone said where these protests are happening?

Never seen anything like this in Dallas.

>> No.5740421

>>5739772
Are you fucking retarded? Cows only produce milk when they're impregnated, and when they give birth their calves are taken from them and either killed for veal or raised in a separate farm, so they don't drink the milk that the farmer wants to produce to sell. There isn't a surplus of milk unless the child is literally taken. They can't keep any children with the mother, or else there will be no milk left to sell.

>> No.5740430

>>5739435
>mfw I never run into protesters at the milk case

>> No.5740431

>>5739435
the only correct solution is to acquire condiment, cover your left hand in it, walk through them to get your milk and wipe your hand off the poster, since they won't move out of your way.
If they touch you complain to the manager they assaulted you, threaten to call the cops and demand they be removed

>> No.5740439

I would have bought 2 gallons of milk, paid at the register, then came back and double-fisted both jugs, chugging and making a fucking mess, giggling, "THIS IS SOOOO GOOOOOD!" And yes, I would have actually done that because I don't really give a fuck.

>> No.5740442

>>5739468
>I think they are hot
I'd say they were average, but average in america would weight the same as both of them combined

>> No.5741817

>>5739435
was this on los angeles?

>> No.5741824

>5740442
look mum i posted about how fat americans are! c-can i have some decleats' arm, a fag, and some faggots please?

>> No.5741838

>>5739435
1. Call manager.
2. Call cops.
3. Taunt them as they are being forcibly removed.

>> No.5741839

>>5739435
them protesters just mad nobody demands to mess with their tits on a daily basses

>> No.5741845

>>5739471
lol

>> No.5741864

>>5739791
>>5740421
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactation#Lactation_without_pregnancy.2C_induced_lactation.2C_relactation

Not saying you're wrong, but a friend of mine had a nanny goat who was never pregnant (due to Elliot not having a male mate; Elliot was the goat's name, beeteedubs) and that bitch needed to be milked. I don't know exactly what happens if the goat did not get milked but it was certainly necessary in this case.

As for dairy cows: you're right. They're impregnated. Their calves are then taken. Their milk is then taken, too. But this doesn't have to be the case. I don't know really anything about the husbandry behind dairy ranching but I'd be surprised if a dairy cow hasn't been bred to produce milk without pregnancy just as there have been chickens bred to lay eggs without going broody.

>> No.5741869

Why have I never seen a male animal rights protester? I've only seen women. Or are some just very effeminate men?

>> No.5741927

>>5739455
but it's not broscience, every time I treat myself for a nice glass of milk, it's followed by a cystic pimple or two.

>> No.5741931

>>5741869
it's natural for women/gays to be protective of anything smaller and cuter, but since people aren't having as many children and children simply aren't as important anymore, they try to take care of animals

>> No.5741933

>>5741927
you're probably allergic or intolerant

that doesn't mean other people can't have it

>> No.5742177

>>5739737
You can get arrested for raising your voice here.

>> No.5742182

>>5741869

I've seen plenty of them

>>5741927

there is some evidence that it MIGHT cause acne in a small percentage of the population

>> No.5742209

>>5742182
>seen many male animal rights protesters
Do you, perchance, live on the west coast, a relatively short drive to the beach? I can only imagine such men living in that area. I've lived in New York and other US east coast cities and have never, not even once, seen a male animal rights protester. I've met male vegans. Several, actually. But not a protester.

>> No.5742239

>>5742209

hahaha, correct! Santa Cruz, California. I've seen them in San Francisco as well (I have many friends who live there and visit often).

>> No.5742257

>>5742239
>SF
Well, to be clear, I wasn't implying that male animal rights protesters are gay or anything. It was more about west coasters being generally more batshit than east coasters and I could only see a batshit west coaster man doing something like that. While they might not be gay, such men are most certainly faggots.

>> No.5742260

should have chugged a quart right then and there

I'm really surprised you didn't

>> No.5742272

>>5742257

yea well most of the ones I've seen were in my town anyway and didn't seem flamboyant or anything

we certainly have lots of batshit tards here, I wouldn't live here if I hadn't been born here

>> No.5742280

>>5742272
>flamboyant
Ya needn't be a flamer to be a faggot. If you're a raw foodist or some other batshit thing like that, though, yeah: you're likely quite the fag.

>> No.5742503

Tell them to shut the fuck up, then drink an entire carton of milk in front of them while going "ahh" and "mmm."

>> No.5742515

>violence to make milk
It's literally the opposite.

>> No.5742522

>>5742260
This. Instead of engaging in a verbal confrontaiton with these fucks (because it doesn't do any good, they just yell louder so they can't hear you) I would have taken a quart of the milkiest milk on the shelf and stood there and drank it while staring them down. Those people have a mental illness. The only thing that will put them off is either 1. Acting crazier than they are, or 2. Bewildering them with something that they can't wrap their minds around.

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>>5739435
Dairy scientist here. White people basically need the highly bioavailable calcium of dairy products or else we get osteoporosis. We utilize the calcium from dairy better than black people. Black people utilize calcium from vegetables more efficiently, but 95% are lactose mal-absorbers (aka lactose interolerant).

Milk is the only food we specifically evolved to eat and has nutrients with bioactive functions yet to be discovered.

Lactose has a much lower glycemic index than other sugars, but is only 30% as sweet. The caseins and wheys are highly bioavailable and very complete proteins. They often also have prebiotic functions.

Even lactose mal-absorbers can eat yogurt because the live cultures have broken down much of the lactose, and the consistency causes it to be digested slowly.

>> No.5742540

>>5742530
2/10 just for trying and typing that out

>> No.5742542

I don't have a problem with milk but I have a problem with gmo cows :/

Because that's frankenmilk false advertising.

This might as well be "Hook", where their food was make believe

>> No.5742543

>>5742530
correction

human milk is the only food we specifically evolved to eat*

whites, north africans, and arabs though did recently adapt to lactose metabolism. Those who couldn't hack it got booted from the gene pool. source: http://www.nature.com/news/archaeology-the-milk-revolution-1.13471

>> No.5742552

>>5739742
You can boot them for harassing other paying customers that just wanted to buy groceries peacefully.

>> No.5742558

>>5739742
>wymyn are oppressing me

This is what permavirgins everywhere have convinced themselves

What did you people do before there was an internet, I wonder. Tortured insects?

>> No.5742560

>>5739737
Trader joes is a liberal organization, serving leftist yuppies, usually in the nicer areas of large cities. The manager and employees were too busy checking their privilege to do anything.
If a bunch of PETA fags tried this somewhere like a Winn-Dixie in the south you'd have a bunch of niggers and white trash laughing while these hipsters get thrown out the door.

>> No.5742570

>>5742560
>confusing hipsters, yuppies, and hippies

Are you that guy who is always ranting about the new avocados?

>> No.5742580

>>5742558
>tortured insects
Not thst guy, but my cousin and I used to set ant hills on fire and then in middle school my friend and I would go hunting for grasshoppers with bb guns

>> No.5742588

>>5742570
But I never mentioned hipsters or hippies?

>> No.5742595

>>5740418
Blue states and college towns are the only places I've seen these people.

>> No.5742616

>>5739435
I keep seeing these pictures with text like that. What is this about?

Yes, oldfag reporting in.

>> No.5742627

>>5742588

Eat more fish. Being landlocked has damaged your brain.

>> No.5742632

>>5742616

it's a cellphone picture taken with an app called snapchat. though i didn't know you could save snapchat photos. i do know you can screenshot your phone though

>> No.5742634

>>5742632
Thanks. It's nice to be part of the 21st century.

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>>5739435
Former retail manager here, OP why the hell did managment not throw these two out? Very simple solution, call the cops. I used to do it with vagrents who would harass customers and thats exactly what these two are doing. Retail stores have cameras everywhere, and besides the cops either escorting them out (or better yet arresting them) they have all that video footage. If they dared try to sue anyone not only would trader joes win the civil lawsuit, I would push for criminal charges and ruin their lives. Wanna play hard ball? Fine, I know how to play that game too. Also I'm gay so yeah the vagina has no power over me lol

>> No.5742639

>>5742558
>two women are standing in front of the milk waving signs
>they are screaming at people who try to get milk
>they will physically stop anyone who tries to get past them
>nobody will look them in the eyes and everyone is avoiding them
>if you tried to physically push past them they'd cry that you were getting violent with them
this is like
the DEFINITION of oppression

>> No.5742641

>>5742639
>they will physically stop anyone who tries to get past them
>if you tried to physically push past them they'd cry that you were getting violent with them

lol

where are you getting these facts?

>> No.5742644

>>5742639
former retail manager again,
naw, they lay a hand on you? You get managment ASAP and press charges. Stores have cameras everywhere and you will not only have store managment on your side, but if shit gets ugly guaruntee you the store will step in. Know everyone thinks women can get away with this shit cause muh feelings, but let me tell you when any major retail chain thinks there is a risk to their bottom line I guaruntee you they will side with whoever was being harassed, in this case you the customer regardless of gender.

>> No.5742652

Honestly, if milk is that bad. Then why did we develop a lactose tolerance?

>> No.5742653

>>5742627
But I live on the east coast anon.

>> No.5742657

>>5742644
>all these various spelling errors
I can see why you're only a retail worker.

>> No.5742663

>>5739435
no food is bad for you
you could eat fried rat assholes dipped in butter and covered in chocolate and still be fine
some foods are better than others. some more than most
its all about what your body needs, how you eat it, when you eat it, among other things not pertaining to food directly
stack milk on top of other shit and you will get a shit health
fit milk nicely into your diet and it will serve you well enough

>> No.5742740

>>5742652

We didn't "develop" lactose intolerance, we always had it.

Generally mammals are only "supposed" to consume dairy products from their mother when they are young.

The capability to process dairy past childhood is actually a genetic mutation.

>> No.5742747

>>5739455
>>5739468
>Two thousand and fourteen years after the death of our lord Jesus Christ
>not doing gomad
enjoy your no gains /ck/

>>5739723
>>5739767
>>5739953
>>5740431
>>5740439
>>5741838
>>5742503
>>5742522
>>5742530

these anons gets it

>> No.5742786

what about almond milk is that good for you ?

>> No.5742852

>>5742740
>genetic mutation
Nah dog, it's bacteria in your guts. You can actually get a fecal transplant and gain the ability to digest milk

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5742857

>drink gallon of milk a day
>these bitches worst nightmare
>mfw

>> No.5742874

>>5742852

Nope.

Try again.

>> No.5742880

>>5742857
>yfw you're your face's worst nightmare
not much wrong with drinking milk though

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>>5742857
RIPPLETITS STRIKES AGAIN

>> No.5742911

>>5742857
>>5742857
>>5742857

>he fell for it

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5743215

>wake up
>put on clothes made by exploited workers in 3rd world
>post on facebook about protest, using electricity generated by coal
>make posters for protest made out of paper
>drive to trader joes, burning fossil fuel all the way
>protest the milking of cows
>mfw

>> No.5743270

>>5742530
There is literally nothing significant about cow milk except how ridiculously overused it is now in all western food and products. The industry is all propaganda and bullshit lobbyist catering just like everyone else. Its some strange double standard western culture has been immunized to. Sexual deviancy taboo, yet its A-OK to chug down milk from another animal, most of these people who partake would be totally uncomfortable actually sucking it from the cows udder directly. That rises the question do you really need it? The answer is no. Its just easier to just hide all the gross stuff and make a clean and nice narrative and image.

>> No.5743296

>human civilizations drinking milk and eating gluten for thousands of years
>evolution of the human brain was thanks to cooked meat

>NOOOOO ALL THOSE ARE BAD BAD NO NO EAT THEM EVIL FOR YOU

You bunch of bastards, go eat a forest and then suffocate.

>> No.5743313

You could have just grabbed the milk and totally ignored them. If they physically put their hands on you it would have been within your rights to give them a firm shove away from you. Just act like they don't exist.

>> No.5743346

>>5739435
Is this a regular occurrence in america? Why weren't they thrown out of the shop?

>> No.5743351

>>5743296
i would say the human brain evolved with farmed foods, which includes grains and dairy/eggs instead of meat

anyway, people think eating processed cheese and cheap white bread that's a week old and mostly sugar is the same thing as eating a fresh loaf of bread made with a few ingredients and cheese made from milk, salt, cultures, and rennet/acid... that's the problem.

>> No.5743358

>>5739435

if these dumbasses were at my store would be 4 or 5 litres to spite them

>> No.5743548

>>5739499
Are you dense?

>> No.5743617

>>5743215
>you can only advocate for a cause if you're an ideologically pure Randian Superman who lives in a vacuum

This is what edgy libertarians actually believe

>> No.5743618

>>5743346

no it's not a regular occurrence

they probably were eventually thrown out, but I'd guess the reason they weren't immediately thrown out is because the employees didn't want to deal with the shitstorm that would come from trying to throw out batshit insane people so they wanted to double check with a manager before taking action.

>> No.5743630

>>5739498
>greenhouse emissions
>thinks that not farming dairy will remove the cows from existence
>claims cows deserve equal treatment, yet arguments counteract logic

>> No.5743632

>>5743548
No, I am batman

>> No.5743638

>>5742874
I'm pretty sure I read this.

>> No.5743639

>>5743618
>implying

the reality is they didn't do it because feminazis, tumbeler, and the jew-owned media. as a white man, this is why I am not a winner. not because I play too much WoW

>> No.5743642

>>5739452
10/10 post

>> No.5743643

>>5739452

It's good that you berated him for this because he was clearly claiming to be an expert on the topic.

>> No.5743657

>>5739779
you make it sound as if they were domesticated and influential on our diet only recently, obviously humans have had a biological impact on things we live with. just about any living thing will have an impact on another.
also you need to keep your autist rage in check

>> No.5743662

>>5739435
>get hassled buying a gallon of a milk
> buy 2 Bring one to the car one back in the store
>spray peta bitches with milk and hope they melt like the wicked witch of the west.

>> No.5743681

>>5740331
Holy shit this just had me laughing for a few minutes straight.

>> No.5743689
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5743689

milk is best for you

>> No.5743698

>>5739499
Methane is worse on global warming for the same amount of carbon than CO2.

>> No.5743700

>>5742852
>fecal transplant

So let me get this straight. They shove another person's shit up your ass?

>> No.5743707

im not a yuropoor, and im not jewish, so i can and do drink milk

also, any non-store employee illegally protesting on private property that in anyway impedes in my getting a product will obtain a shoulder into their chest as i walk past them.

>> No.5743708

>>5743657
>you make it sound as if they were domesticated and influential on our diet only recently
i'm not sure why, or how, because i don't think that
>also you need to keep your autist rage in check
i'll kill you

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>>5743689
only skinny fucks should drink it

>> No.5743763

>>5743698
And it break down when exposed to sunlight.

>> No.5743792

>>5743700
Actually they blend it into a slurry then squirt it up there.

>> No.5743797

>>5743707
>yuropo
Both jews and europeans can and do drink milk.
What bizzaro world do you live in?

>> No.5743818

>>5742530
>Dairy scientist
We, the coca cola company, recommend coca cola

>> No.5743858

contains 18/22 important nutrients

Only Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Iron and Copper that aren't in there

>> No.5743864

end joy you're prostrate canker, carnist scum

>> No.5743878

>>5743763

[Citation Needed]

>> No.5743907

>>5743818
>implying peta vegans haven't fully occupied the oval white house via crypto Muslim liberal feminazis
>implying dairy scientists aren't our last line of defence against creeping vegan values

Let me guess you buy apple products and put margarine on your whole wheat French bread

>> No.5743918

>>5743907
I do not eat margarine, as it is not a whole food, and I don't eat bread often.

>> No.5743919

>>5743818

Dairy scientist is not dairy farmer, retard. Veterinarian here.

>> No.5743924

>>5743878
To much info for a simple quote so just read the relevant parts of the atmospheric methane wiki article for general info on it.

>> No.5744013

>>5743797

jews are often lactose intolerant

>> No.5744080

>>5742907
kek
>>5743747
no. calories in, cals out nigger.
Whole milk is a good, cheap(not trade joes organic milk) readily available source of proteins an fats.

>> No.5744096

they should ship every one of these faggots to Seattle and build a containment wall around the city. we'd be doing them a huge favor, they LOVE it there. and the rest of us can buy a half gallon of milk at trader joe's without being pestered.

>> No.5744105 [DELETED] 

>>5744096
Seattle is too warm. I'm staying in Minnesota.

>> No.5744115
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>>5744096
muh freedoms

>> No.5744123

>>5739435
>LOOKATME.jpg

>> No.5744132

>>5742558
>permavirgins
Check your slut privilege.

>> No.5744143

>>5742740
>We didn't "develop" lactose intolerance, we always had it.
he wrote tolerance, not intolerance

>> No.5744144

>>5743617

>not realizing I'm pointing out how stupid protesting milk is
>thinking I'm a Libfag

>> No.5744665

>>5744115

this rule only applies if you're brown, which makes it super ironic that white people are the most obsessed over it

>> No.5744720

>>5739435
I don't really like milk but if I saw these dorks I'd be tempted to pick up a gallon.

>> No.5744728

>>5742740

>The capability to process dairy past childhood is actually a genetic mutation.

Yeah, and it's weird how milk drinkers think the ability to digest lactose makes everything else in the milk fine for you too.

>> No.5744730

>>5740274
>The male calves from the dairy breed are worthless, and will usually be slaughtered shortly after birth and disposed of.

And how is the next generation of dairy breed cows going to be conceived?

>> No.5744737

>>5744115
What exactly is this map trying to point out? I live within that one but I have no idea what it means.

>> No.5744742

>>5739435
>fortified with Vitamin D
>because milk is shit without it and you won't make use of the calcium that is in it

Milk is for calves. Grow up.

>> No.5744753

>>5739435
>Not playing slap ass with dem hoes. step up your game OP

>> No.5744755

>>5744730
>And how is the next generation of dairy breed cows going to be conceived?

A small number of bulls from dairy breeds are specifically bred at facilities separate from raising milk cows. Their semen is harvested and used for artificial insemination.

>> No.5744760

>>5744742
>Milk is for calves.

so what? I think most foods are "for" something other than us humans eating them. Do you want me to drink almond milk instead? Well I'm pretty sure almonds are "for" growing new almond plants, not feeding me.

>> No.5744761

>>5743351
>>5743296

It had more to do with starch from underground tubers, supplying extra calories and especially glucose to allow the brain the energy to enlarge.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6983330.stm

>> No.5744801

>>5744742
>every "vegan alternative" fortified with every vitamin, nutrient and mineral, ever
>because a naturally vegan diet cannot sustain human life at all
Misguided public outbursts for attention based on ill-informed ideology is for teenagers. Grow up.

>> No.5744842

>>5744742
Please take your eating disorder elsewhere. Yes, human beings are the only mammal to drink milk into adulthood. We are also the only mammal to perform surgery, build skyscrapers, go into outer space, and break the speed of sound.

>> No.5744844

>>5744801

"Vegan alternatives" are just that, though. Unneccessary alternatives for unneccessary foods. Almond Milk is just water with some almond flour in it, so they add vitamins to make it more appealing.

That said, vegans aren't the only people who don't drink cow milk. It's basically people who are mentally above the age of 2 years old, who think drinking hormone-laden inter-species infant formula is a stupid thing to do. I'm sorry you don't fall into that category.

>> No.5744846

>>5744761
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6983330.stm
oh, cool, a cherry picked article that you scoured for to advance your agenda of pushing your eating disorder. You sure have me convinced.

>> No.5744847

>>5739435
you know what's cruel? NOT milking a cow. they NEED to be milked.

fuckin broads need a 2x4 upside their head

>> No.5744852

>>5744844
>trying this hard

>> No.5744854

>>5744846

>reality doesn't say what I want it to say so it's wrong

Seriously?

>> No.5744856

>going to Trader Joe's in the first place

Mistake #1.

>> No.5744857

>>5744854
>reality
You mean the research performed by a vegan to advance veganism? What color is the sky on your world?

>> No.5744859

>>5744847

what do you mean?

>> No.5744863

>>5744859
Are you really this stupid? have you honestly never left your apartment? It's astounding how ignorant vegans are when it comes to biology and ecology...

>> No.5744864

>>5744863

not vegan just wondering what you mean by need to be milked

>> No.5744865

>>5744863

Why are carnists always so angry all the time?

All I see there is a simple question. How did you manage to interpret that as a personal attack?

>> No.5744866

>>5744864
Cows need to be milked or they suffer from excruciating pain. It's not rocket surgery.

>> No.5744869

>>5744866

Wow that was hard. Do you feel like you've been raped now?

>> No.5744870

>>5744865
Why do vegans project their anger onto others? Us omnivores are healthy enough not to be defensive and angry all the time.

>> No.5744874

>>5744870
> healthy enough not to be defensive and angry all the time.
>>5744863
>Are you really this stupid? have you honestly never left your apartment? It's astounding how ignorant vegans are when it comes to biology and ecology...

Yep, not angry at all ^_^

>> No.5744875

>>5744865

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22333737

All that meat makes them constipated and unable to produce seratonin, so they get irritable.

>> No.5744879

Blue shirt has a /fatpuss/

>> No.5744884

>>5744874
Do you get angry when you read something you don't agree with or something? Are you new to 4chan? Why are you so emotional unstable? Perhaps if you ate a healthier diet, you would be more balanced. Do you want counselling for your eating disorder?

>> No.5744887

>>5744884

> Perhaps if you ate a healthier diet

I'd get the fatty streaks in your arteries checked out if I were you

>> No.5744888

>>5744875
>better cherry pick harder
>ooh, throw in some samefagging, too.

>> No.5744890

>>5744884

Amazing.

By the way I think you meant to say "emotionally"

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>>5744888

>if I just ignore reality, it'll go away
>someone please help

No escape, only rape

>> No.5744894

>>5744887
Don't have any, I'm healthier than a sedentary omnivore forcing his body to make due with a herbivore's diet, I'd wager.

>> No.5744898

>>5744894

It's "make do" you silly angry carnist

Also my diet is far more omnivorous than yours, I promise :)

>> No.5744899

>>5744893
>Reality
Carefully curated to advance a specific point of view by biased researchers.
Okay bro, so purple skies then? I can find NIH articles endorsing smoking for health, too.

>> No.5744900

>>5744894

>that herbivore who thinks he's an omnivore

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312295/

I wonder if cigarette smokers and alcoholics think they're smokivores and alcovores too

>> No.5744902

>>5744890
>I am assblasted by this, so have some grammar nazism.

>> No.5744909

>>5739435
Why didn't they get kicked out?I really hate those kinds of vegans.

>> No.5744914

>>5744900
i wonder if you use enough shitty strawmen, people will join you in your eating disorder? Hey, if you're not an omnivore, why do you have canines and a short digestive tract?

>> No.5744915

>>5744900

Humans aren't herbivores, carnist extremist. Try to get a hold of your emotions.

>>5744902

I'm only trying to help you become a better person. Carnism is associated with a deprived upbringing. No doubt your formal education was as deprived as your exposure to good foods. It's a shame what your parents did to you but they probably didn't know any better.

>> No.5744921

>>5744914

>getting angry about facts

Bro, it's cool when you're 5 years old to pretend you're a T. Rex, but you need to grow out of it now.

>Hey, if you're not an omnivore, why do you have canines and a short digestive tract?

Humans don't have short digestive tracts, and canines do not signify a carnivore, especially not your dull, half-a-centimeter teeth barely longer than the surrounding flat, plant-grinding teeth

>> No.5744925

>>5744915
He was agreeing with you, you stooge. I guess your improper diet really has caused cognitive damage. Hey look kids, it's an article by a vegetarian that concludes that humans are biologically omnivorous.
http://www.biology-online.org/articles/humans-omnivores.html

You realize that calling healthy omnivores carnists is akin to an anorexic calling average weight people fat, right? Do you want treatment for your disorder? I don't want to see you suffer any more. What state are you in, I can get resources to you.

>> No.5744927

>>5744915
>meat is more expensive than vegetables
Dohoho, you must be poor if you eat meat!

>> No.5744929

>>5740411
Go away faggot. Moot needs to make you people your own board so you can circle jerk there about how awesome veganism is.

>> No.5744932

>>5744925
>implying the guy eating vegetables is the one with the disorder

I know your deprived upbringing has led you to believe you're going to be poor unless there's a big steaming heap of 3rd rate factory farmed "meat" on your table but I can assure you, you're not an omivore. You're a carnist who eats vegetables to punish yourself when you're feeling what you refer to as guilt (actually shame about your ugly misshapen body)

>> No.5744934

>>5744925

>Hey look kids, it's an article by a vegetarian that concludes that humans are biologically omnivorous.

Why's an article by a nobody who's vegetarian better than an article by a world renowned physician who's not a vegetarian? You don't need to be vegetarian to understand that humans are designed to eat plants and not animals any more than you need to be a non-smoker to admit cigarettes are bad for you.

>> No.5744935

>>5744921
>still projecting your anger onto others
Look, i'm sorry I have upset you, but what you are doing is not healthy.

>> No.5744938

>>5740442
What country are you from?

>> No.5744943

>>5744929
Oh my fucking god why has this not been done yet? They really do need a containment board?

>> No.5744944

>>5744927
>I ate a USDA utility grade steak today so I've Made It™

It's depressing to see people take pride in eating vast quantities of shitty meat.

>> No.5744945

>>5744932
Actually, I am an omnivore who grows his own veggies and hunts most of his meat, as did my father and his father. In fact, I'd wager that my ecological footprint is smaller than yours. I know, without ignorant preconceived notions, you don't have a leg to stand on, but you really ought to quit while you are ahead.

>> No.5744948

>>5744943
Didn't mean to add that question mark at the end.

>> No.5744952

>>5744944
>Buying meat from stores
Sure is pleb in here

>> No.5744953

>>5744943
>>5744929

I agree, that'd be great. Instead of having to accept facts we don't want to believe, let's just... PUSH them... somewhere else!

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>>5744945
>I shoot things so I'm a self reliant man

This is what ignorant rurals actually believe.

>> No.5744955

>>5744953
>facts
Oh you vegans are hilarious. Confirmation bias is precious, no?

>> No.5744958

>>5744954
>I resort to ad hominems when i lose arguments and then tell other people how mad they are! Not rural, and I'd wager i'm better educated than you. Seriously, where are you? I want to help you. This is painful to watch.
Are you even trying?

>> No.5744962

>>5744954
> I don't know how ecology works, so I denigrate hunters, even though I know nothing about it!

>> No.5744964

>>5744958

Are you having some trouble using basic quote syntax?

This is the great irony of American gun culture. The ones who least ought to be wielding dangerous weapons are the ones most likely to be waving them around discharging them wildly.

>> No.5744969

>>5744962

Hunters are a funny group

>If I don't intervene, NATURE will happen! Can't let an ecosystem work itself out, better grab my shotgun and kill everything I see

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>>5743864
Delicious meat. I'd rather live a slightly shorter life eating what I want than live 5 years longer eating kale and tofu my entire life.

>> No.5744981

>>5744964
Actually, I support gun control. You really should stop making assumptions, you've embarrassed yourself so far.
>>5744969
Wow, you really are ignorant. Do you not get how regulated hunting works? One draws tags an is assigned to a particular unit where the population of game animals has been deemed to be excessive (since wolves are not the major players they once were, there really is not an elite predator in many american forest environments) From there, one hunts bucks, bulls, does, or cows depending on the tags drawn, and there are in fact limits in place. Have you never left the city or something? Do you even know where your produce is grown?

>> No.5744985

>>5744854

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/49888012/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/sorry-vegans-eating-meat-cooking-food-made-us-human/#.VAJUwJDD9SA


Lol I can do it too

>> No.5744995

>>5744981

>One draws tags an is assigned to a particular unit where the population of game animals has been deemed to be excessive (since wolves are not the major players they once were, there really is not an elite predator in many american forest environments)

Because you idiots killed them all. And now instead of letting the ecosystem do what an ecosystem does, you continue to butt in every season to keep the problem around until the end of time while pretending you're offering a solution to alleviate your guilt when all you're really interested in is eating some meat.

>> No.5744999

>>5744953
What facts are you referring to? And whether they (and assuming you) are right or wrong about whatever it is you are talking about, that to me is irrelevant.

Vegans are militant, hateful, pompous, argumentative asshole s who try to push their lifestyles onto others. They are the most unpleasant group of people in the world. That is my beef (lol) with them.

>> No.5745001

>>5744995
>you idiots
So, now I'm a farmer from the 1800's? You keep bringing up guilt, but have you ever seen what happens to a deer or elk herd that gets too big for its biome? I'm glad that eating vegan allows you to assuage your white guilt, but I don't suffer from that (full blood chinook).

>> No.5745003

>>5744999
Dubs plus trips confirm.

Vegans are more euphoric than fedora tier atheists and are enlightened by their smugness.

>> No.5745006

>>5744995
>because you idiots
If by "you" you mean my great-great grandparents, and very likely yours as well judging by how fucking white you sound right now.

>> No.5745008

>>5744953
You are picking articles that fit your narrative. I coud do the same thing, but then again I'm not a vegan.

>> No.5745009

>>5745001

These wacky hunters. "If we don't kill them, then they'll DIE"

>> No.5745021

>>5745009
Nope, I hunt because venison and rabbit tastes good. If hunting vegans was allowed I'd do that too. I don't believe in objective morality.

>> No.5745024

>>5745009
They will. A slow death from disease and starvation. Do you not get how ecology works? Too many animals and not enough grazing/foraging land= bad times. Furthermore, the money raised by the sale of the tags for hunting goes towards habitat rehabilitation and breeding efforts. See what happens when you open your mouth about things you know nothing about? Would you like to go on a deer hunt some time, for the sake of education? It's probably do you good to leave your apartment.

>> No.5745032

>>5745024

You're trying to cover up the bigger picture, which is that this kind of event is exactly how an ecosystem works. By intervening every time you need to step back and let it work itself out, you continuously prolong the problem and just make it a cycle that lasts as long as humans artificially force it to last, because you don't care about the problem, because you just want to eat the meat.

>> No.5745039

>>5745032
Right. I don't care about the problem. That's why I'm a forest ranger and a forest-firefighter. Because I don't care. Tell me more about how you conserve our forests by spouting nonsense from your apartment, please.

>> No.5745040

>>5739468
Considering many the top brands of multi-vitamins had none of the essential vitamins the bottle claimed, some non existent when DNA tested, your recommendation is very uneducated.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/11/05/science/herbal-supplements-are-often-not-what-they-seem.html?pagewanted=all

>>5744995
Then you should castrate yourself and encourage your friends to do so, so human expansion stops. People like you amaze me, you'll let 5+ kids slide out of your vagina, but you're staunchly against GMOs and most agriculture practices that keep the overpopulated world from starving.

>> No.5745045

>>5745021
Don't say you don't believe in it, say it doesn't exist.

Empower yourself anon.

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5745063

As a nurse who is pretty much done with her MSN degree, I have had my fair share of dealing with vegans/vegetarians. While I respect any vegetarians choice to not consume meat or any byproducts of animals, eating meat is part of a healthy balanced diet. Its true vegetarians can take vitamins and what not but I still have seen many anemic and slightly malnourished vegetarians.

It's all about moderation. If you have to much of one thing of course it will effect you. On one side you have anemia, malenutrion and fragile bones. While for meat eaters ( mostly beef eaters ) they have higher cholesterol, blood pressure and trouble with weight. You need both meat and veggies to be healthy. One extreme or the other has major down falls in the long run, even if you take tons of vitamins. Humans are meant to obtain nutrition from many sources. Nit just a single food group. It always leads to problems.

>> No.5745066

>>5745063

I'd say more nutrition information is necessary. Obviously the simple act of removing meat from the diet doesn't guarantee you're eating a healthy diet, but meat certainly isn't necessary or ideal for a healthy diet.

>> No.5745072

>>5745066

>information

*education

>> No.5745081

>>5745066
Yes it is.

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>>5745066

Fish and chicken are leaner and healthier options for meat. So as long as you watch your beef intake and stick mostly to the leaner cuts of meat you should be fine.

Removing one food group all together is simply not wise. It is through a balance of both that you will get the best nutrition you can from food.

I do agree that there needs to be better food education. I hate seeing so many obese children and adults. Frustrating.

>> No.5745104

>>5745081

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2592707
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9860369

It most certainly is not.

>> No.5745106

>>5745098

It may offer further benefit to displace fish and chicken with whole grains and legumes, which are leaner, have no cholesterol, include fiber, and contain health-promoting phytochemicals. Candy is also a food group, but would you argue not eating candy is a bad idea?

>> No.5745117

>>5745106
As I have said, all things in moderation. I was simply saying that there are leaner and healthier cuts of meat.

I'm not attacking vegans and what not, thus is simply what I have seen as a nurse.

>> No.5745124

>>5745104
What about all the nutrients you can't get anywhere else but meat? Didn't read btw.

>> No.5745125

>>5745106
>Candy is also a food group, but would you argue not eating candy is a bad idea?
depends what you consider candy...

candy could be made with nuts, fruit, and honey. those foods aren't necessarily unhealthy. just sweet and dense.

>> No.5745129

>>5745104
Good god does nobody know how to make a proper study anymore?

>> No.5745132

>>5745117

Sure, I'd agree with you there. I just don't want people to get the impression that high schoolers and college kids who decided to "go vegan" as a fashion statement without any knowledge of nutrition, living on vegan junk food, are an accurate representation of what happens when you eat a diet rich in whole grains, legumes, fruits, vegetables, nuts, and seeds. Even the famous mediterannean diet that most people agree is healthy is described by its creator as a "mainly vegetarian diet"

>>5745124

The only one would be B12, for which a supplement is healthiest and most reliable option, and even meat eaters are often recommended to supplement as well.

>> No.5745154

>>5745132
What about all the other micronutrients? Also, your statement about b12 is false.

>> No.5745160

>>5739452
perfect response.

reminds me of a friend who likes to talk politics and his 'knowledge' is based entirely on bbc news articles. so you ask one probing question and he's clueless.

>> No.5745165

>>5745154

Other micronutrients aren't a problem, and no it isn't

http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/2000/000802.htm

>Nearly two-fifths of the U.S. population may be flirting with marginal vitamin B12 status
>Oddly, the researchers found no association between plasma B12 levels and meat, poultry, and fish intake, even though these foods supply the bulk of B12 in the diet. “It’s not because people aren’t eating enough meat,” Tucker said. “The vitamin isn’t getting absorbed.”

>> No.5745185

>>5745165
Yes they are, if you want to truly be.healthy. not just something that will manage to keep you alive.

>> No.5745189

>>5745185

I'm saying other micronutrients aren't hard to get, not that they don't matter. If you replace meat with refined pasta then you may run into deficiencies, but replace it with beans and you'll end up getting more micronutrients

>> No.5745228

>>5744742
Meat is for muscle power
Egg are for reproduction
Cotton is for seed dispersal

Go PC, be a tree.

>> No.5745244
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5745244

>>5745132
Most people who do it as a fad quit within days. I have seen healthy vegans/vegetarians, but they have to load up on tons of expensive vitamins and substitutes. It is rather pricey at times, or so my vegan friend tells me.

Honestly I just wish more vegetarians would do more research. Most of the ones that come into my clinic think being vegan means eating iceberg lettuce all day. I'm not saying all vegans are like that but a good chunk of the ones i have dealt with are.

All in all most of the cons of a vegan/vegetarian diet can be controlled. I still wouldn't recommend it though.

>> No.5745245

>>5744975
This man gets it, better to enjoy living 50 years than spending 90 year dying of boredom.

>> No.5745265

>>5744737
most constitutional rights can be voided in those areas because it's been techincally designated part of the border

>> No.5745271

>>5745244
>Most of the ones that come into my clinic think being vegan means eating iceberg lettuce all day.

Eugh, those people should just be labelled salatards.

Lettuce, tomatoes and cucumbers are no more a meal than a crisps and pibbs, might as well just drink water.

Seriously "Oh it's natural to feel permanently hungry".

>> No.5745280

>>5745244
>substitutes
They're doing it wrong. Whole foods vegans only need to supplement what your mom is also deficient in.

>> No.5745284

>>5745244

I agree with you, I'd rather have people eat meat if the alternative is them eating refined foods or trying to live entirely on salads. I think the best option is to get Americans to realize that there exists more foods than what they're told to buy in TV commercials. It seems like many people see vegetarianism/veganism as a non-option because they can't even conceptualize what a non-meat meal looks like outside of a block of tofu next to some carrots, or a faux meat boca burger with some almond milk. This isn't as much of a problem in other countries, where even the meat eaters regularly eat vegetarian meals.

>> No.5745293

>>5745271
Hi.
Total omnivore here.
I had a salad for dinner last night.
I had pasta with olive oil, garlic, chilies and broccoli for dinner tonight.
I didn't feel hungry after either meal. What's wrong with eating only vegetables of vegetables and grain as a meal?

>> No.5745300

>>5745293
>only vegetables of vegetables and grain
Er... should read
>only vegetables OR vegetables and grain
Fix'd.

>> No.5745309

>>5745293
Naw I mean the retards that only eat leafy/watery veggies, every meal until they break down and gorge on a subway sandwich or shit.

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>>5745271

The worst part is afterwards when they say "I tried veganism once and it just didn't work for me"

>> No.5745320

>>5745284
>other countries where meat eaters regular eat vegetarian meals
I'm from such a culture but live in America now. Neighbours here are bewildered at the idea of a meal without meat. Coworkers less so, likely because I work mostly with both college educated sorts, most of whom are other foreign-born-or-raised people. While friends I've made here aren't surprised at vegetarian meals, they aren't part of their diets at all.

>> No.5745322

>>5745293
>white flour
end joy you're ape and sidious

>> No.5745331

>>5745293
A meal without starch will leave you feeling more hungry then a meal without meat. Ever get invited to dinner with an inept nerfherder who serves a stir fry without rice?

>> No.5745332

>>5745322
There's a point where overdone misspelling jokes become unintelligible from common stupidity.

>> No.5745335

>>5745331
>then
fug
Why am I thinking phonetically?

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>>5739761
>THE ONES THAT WERE DOMESTICATED WON OUT OVER THE BIG STRONG SCARY AGGRESSIVE WILD COUNTERPARTS

that makes me wonder what it would be like to have a pet bear, night be cool

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>>5745332

>> No.5745340

>>5745309
Oh. Yeah. That's dumb. I've never met anyone who does that. I was thinking maybe NurseAnon encounters those specific sorts of vegans because of what she does for a living. You know: being a nurse, like 99.9% of the new people ya meet're gonna be sick, sickly, ill and unhealthy.

I've known vegans who are perfectly healthy. Most have been ghastly to be around for some reason or other but a few have been mostly pleasurable.
Let them argue from moral standpoints. You can't really argue against morals. What I detest, however, is when they speak from ill-informed, pseudoscientific arguments. The only thing worse than arguing from the rhetorical irrelevance of the appeal to nature is when that appeal is itself based on a false premise in the first place.

>> No.5745342

>>5745336
Wild animals are too smart to keep as pets. Only those bred to be retarded can be left alone in a home.

>> No.5745344

>>5745322
>implying pasta is made from white flour
Dear me, you're an idiot. Have you never seen what pasta flour looks like, Anon? It's also known as 'semolina flour.' It's yellow. Not white, you silly.

>> No.5745348

>>5745344
It still lacks fiber, and the stuff from a box has added iron that makes my ass bleed.

>> No.5745351

>>5745331
No, I've never been invited to a stir-fry dinner without rice. Ever. Or any dinner without a starchy component of some sort.

>> No.5745358

>>5745348
And the brocc's got tonnes of fibre, Redstain. I'm imagining that your iron issue results in bleeding from the anus, leaving red stains on your pants.

>> No.5745359

>>5745320
I'm from Alabama and even here no one is as astonished by vegetarian meals and diets as you claim.

>> No.5745363

>>5745348
>It still lacks fiber
water lacks fiber, is it unhealthy?

are you just consuming a big plate of plain pasta? did you know you could consume food that has fiber along with the pasta?

>> No.5745368

>>5745348
Are you a picky Anon that eats only olive oil or butter on your pasta?

>> No.5745382

>>5745368
I don't have any refined oil except for when I sometimes put some olive oil in a whole white wheat calzone when no one is around to see. I add some cashews or something to my whole grains and legumes before cooking when I want fat.

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>>5745284
Exactly. Overall there needs to be a better education on food and nutrition.

I had a mother come in complaining her son was constantly throwing up and sick. We asked what his diet was because we noticed he was on the chubby side and she said a happy meal with apple slices at least five times a week cause she was to tired to cook. She thought it was a healthy meal because it had apple slices. I had to walk out for a second to stop myself from calling her a stupid twat.

On the other side though are the vegans who will not listen when you tell them they need to add more to their diet other then prepackaged ice burg lettuce. They get so angry, accusing me of trying to make them eat meat, etc. One lady who was anemic refused to take iron supplements because she thought they were made from cow blood and then stormed out of the office.

Both sides need to do more research and there needs to be more done to teach children healthy eating habits.

>> No.5745389

>>5745359
Beats me, Anon. Just what happens with my neighbours around here.

>> No.5745391

>>5745382
Uhhhhhh you know you can get unrefined versions of pretty much any natural oil you want, right?

>> No.5745392

You need to drink whole cow milk because of the calcium and CLA. CLA helps weight loss.

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>>5745280
I'll remember that and do some more research so I can help anymore vegans/vegetarians that may come to my clinic. Thank you anon.

>> No.5745406

>>5745391
My definition of "refined" differs from yours. Give me the whole seed with the rest of the nutrients.

>> No.5745413

>>5745405
Your mom could probably use some more b12. Meat is not a reliable source for those over 50.

>> No.5745418

>>5745406
You know some seeds were specifically selected and bred for their oils right?

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>>5745413
It is true that the older you are the less red meat you should eat. I recommend fish for my older patients. As I said I will look more into it. Thank you.

>> No.5745424

>>5745418
And I don't eat those, because there is no good reason for me to ingest oil. The only oil I have regularly is algae oil capsules, and only when I'm not going to be around people. Algae burps.

>> No.5745425

>>5745340

>The only thing worse than arguing from the rhetorical irrelevance of the appeal to nature is when that appeal is itself based on a false premise in the first place.

Aka "the paleo diet"

>> No.5745429

>>5745382

>whole white wheat

>> No.5745431

>>5745271
They think that is what it means and most of them are to stubborn to listen to the doctor or myself. They complain feeling tired and hungry all the time but won't listen. Even when we tell them to incorporate other vegetables and fruits they brush us off because they "know what they are doing". So frustrating.

>> No.5745434

>>5745425
Are "paleo" dieters mostly fatties desperate for a silver bullet, or boring privileged people?

>> No.5745435

>>5745424
>extracted oils are bad
>algae oil is good
i'm out

>> No.5745438

>>5745429
It's white wheat without its bran and germ removed.

>> No.5745443

>>5745434
Just people who want to feel strong like a caveman

and have an excuse to binge on animal products

and they're retards who think that farmers are scrawny weaklings compared to cavemen, because apparently doing manual labor all day makes you weak.

>> No.5745446

>>5745434
Boring privileged people. Fatties don't have the willpower to give up cheese.

>> No.5745447

>>5745434

Mostly fat girls and gullible guys who are easily swayed by marketing, looking for an edge over the rest of the population without having to do any real research, fact checking, or basic thinking

>> No.5745449

>>5745406
My definition of faggot may be different than yours, but the infentessimally minute bit of extra protein and fiber you get is

And let me give pause to impress how incredible this difference is

GREATLY OUTWEIGHED by the fact that you are extracting next to nothing in the way of oils from those food.

Think about it. You take a shit, you look down and see the cashews and flax seed sitting around in your dook, just as fresh as the day you ate them. Zero nutrients. Even if you are grinding every bite into a slurry, it is not as efficient in extracting important nutrients as milling it into oil.

>> No.5745465

>>5745449
Flax oil loses its beneficial properties when cooked but it does not happen to flax meal. Flax oil also goes rancid fast while whole flax seeds can sit in the pantry a few months.

>> No.5745468

>>5740274
>That's why any vegetarian who consumes dairy products is a dirty hypocrite.

Vegetarianism is about what people eat, not what they believe. You're talking about vegans.

>> No.5745477

>>5745425
Haha, wasn't thinking about that, but yes: them, to. Low carbers in general, I guess. Basically, anyone who espouses such extremes is going to really get my goat.
Diets heavy on animal-derived calories are bad.
Diets with no animal-derived calories are also bad.
As with most things, the truth lies somewhere in between, but close to a vegan diet than a paleo one.

And before some vegan tries to say that their diet is perfectly healthy, would they please explain why birthweights of neonates born to vegan mothers are really rather low in comparison to their traditional-diet counterparts? Then explain how all the data that shows correlation between low birthweight and in vivo complications would somehow not be applicable to children born to vegan mothers? And how vegan-born children are at a far higher risk of diabetes, obesity and lower intelligence than their so-called "carnist"-born counterparts isn't indicative that veganism is unhealthy?

>> No.5745482

>>5745449
>he doesn't own a Galaxy-class blender

>> No.5745493

>>5745477

>And before some vegan tries to say that their diet is perfectly healthy, would they please explain why birthweights of neonates born to vegan mothers are really rather low in comparison to their traditional-diet counterparts?
>And how vegan-born children are at a far higher risk of diabetes, obesity and lower intelligence than their so-called "carnist"-born counterparts isn't indicative that veganism is unhealthy?

First you'd have to provide compelling evidence that those claims were even true. I'm interested in reading about it

>> No.5745502

>>5744742
>calves
You fucking dolt.

>> No.5745567

>>5745382
I wasn't talking about your "refined" oil specifics, faggot, I was asking if you put veggies, nuts, or other fiber with your pasta, which counters your previous statement that a meal made without whole wheat pasta has no fiber.

Learn to read, maybe it will help you learn how oil manufacturing actually works on the molecular level.

>> No.5747019

>>5744742
>Milk is for calves
i lol'd

>> No.5747242

>>5745502
>>5747019
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