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5784326 No.5784326 [Reply] [Original]

>visit chicago for university trip
>get hot dog from a street vendor
>see no ketchup in condiment area
>ask attendant if he has any ketchup packets or anything
>he gets all standoffish and rude; goes on a tangent about how it's blasphemy to put sugar paste on a frankfurter blah blah etc. I wanted fucking lunch not a lecture
>hot dog tasted like shit regardless
Do all Chicagoans and perhaps others share this view on ketchup application? Who gives a shit about someone else's personal tastes? Do these vendors not like customers and income for fuck sakes?

>> No.5784333

Ketchup is OK if you;re 12 and under.

>> No.5784346

>>5784326
do what you want
dont get all bent out of hpae unless thye are

>> No.5784352

>>5784326
>That's disgusting! Ketchup on a hotdog! Here eat this pizza
>Looks like a casserole
>I don't like you're fucking attitude! I don--
>(Vendor is promptly murdered by a youth)

Anyway, I don't really care what people put on their hotdogs. I could give a shit less. I don't personally dress mine with ketchup/catsup/whatever, but it's a hot dog, so I don't get bent out of shape about it.

I've sat in restaurants and seen people order filet mignons well done and seen them eat them with ketchup. I don't care, because I didn't order that meal.

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5784366

I can't fucking stand people/restaurants that wont serve a certain condiment. Fucking get over it you snobs, people have different tastes...some of them are shitty. They're paying for your shit food, give em the stupid ass ketchup, and keep your mouth shut.

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>> No.5784367

>>5784366
Fuck yeah son!

>> No.5784369

>>5784326
I work in a hotdog stand in chicago and no one gives a fuck if you get ketchup. You can even get mayo on it, mexicans love that shit. You probably just wen't to some shit tourist trap. Gene and Jude's is like this, it's gets all this praise from people outside the city, but truth is it's not a traditionally topped chicago style hotdog and they go ape shit about ketchup. Neighborhood hot dog places are the best, never listen to food network or travel channel on chicago. They thought Giordano's was good pizza, fuckin disgusting

Also if you have any q's about the chicago hot dog game feel free to ask been at it for 4 years

>> No.5784373

>>5784369
>Also if you have any q's about the chicago hot dog game feel free to ask been at it for 4 years
how many people have you killed to stay in the game?

>> No.5784375

>>5784369
>You can even get mayo on it, mexicans love that shit.
This is true as fuck,

>> No.5784376

>>5784369
I also had a Chicago-style dog (sans ketchup) from Fluky's while I was there and it was really good.

>> No.5784380

>>5784373
Luckily I'm north side, so there's no need to ever kill someone. You just gotta hustle to keep at it, no murder needed

>> No.5784388

>>5784376
>Fluky's
Honestly I've never heard of fluky's, but that's what I love about the chicago hot dog. There is not major chain that has taken over the local stand business. Portillos has a few locations, but for the most part everyone has their own special place. It's one of the many things I love about chicago's culture

>>5784375
Blows my mind man, but they also ask for baccon on it, which is an extra buck charge but the baller mexicans will get mayo ketchup baccon and onion

>> No.5784391

>>5784326
I'm just curious about something. If the hot dog guy had just said "sorry, I don't have ketchup" instead of being an asshole about it, would you have started this thread?

>> No.5784398

>>5784391
Absolutely not. His douchey demeanor, lecturing an obvious canadian tourist about ketchup on hot dogs was just off-putting. That's like a Mexican restaurant getting mad if you ask for sour cream on your taco.

>> No.5784404

>>5784333
I don't get why people are so autistic about hotdogs.
Most hotdog sausages are ok at best, it aint going to matter unless it's an a grade sausage.

>> No.5784410

>>5784388
Fuck yeah man, call it a sonoran dog. It's a mexican thing, fucking great too. No I don't where it started first here or there I just know I can get one every monday lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1hJT9cIRrE#t=12

>> No.5784412

>>5784388
Not mexican, but have you tried it? Mayo on a hot dog can be good. I'm okay with purists and the "traditional" way to make hot dogs (around here it's yellow mustard, relish, diced onions and cabbage. I usually skip the relish), but it's a fucking wiener with a shitty bun. It's not sacred.

>mayo
>dijon mustard
>regular potato chips

>cream cheese
>pickled jalapeno slices

And a bunch of other options. The world is your oyster and all that shit.

That being said, fuck ketchup. But that's just me, you do whatever.

>> No.5784414

>>5784410
most call it a sonoran dog

where im at, atleast

>> No.5784417

>>5784412

I've never tried it but I guess we have our own version. It's a deep fried chicago red hot, with baccon, bbq sauce, grilled onion, and hot gardinerra. Call it the northside bomber.

>>5784410
>>5784412
But you are both inciting me to try it like this, maybe if I can make it good, I can get it on special to hook it up for the mexican customers

>> No.5784419

>>5784417
They'd appreciate that I'm sure. I mean you, yourself already said they order with may, ketch, bacon

>> No.5784420

>>5784398
You're alright, then. There's a difference between being put off because a hot dog vendor is being an asshole for no reason and being mad because a random hot dog stand doesn't have your favorite condiment.

>> No.5784422

>>5784398
Mexicans love sour cream, well mexican crema, shit is good on almost everything

>> No.5784428

>>5784420
>>5784391
>he gets all standoffish and rude; goes on a tangent about how it's blasphemy to put sugar paste on a frankfurter blah blah etc. I wanted fucking lunch not a lecture
>standoffish
>rude
>lecture
>blasphemy
Did you even read the OP?

I'd say OP ran into a douchebag.

>> No.5784429

Chicago is the Texas of food: People from Chicago act like they've got the best food ever with little evidence in their favor.

Also:

> getting a hot dog
> not putting mustard, ketchup, onions, mayo, and relish on it

You're only wrong if you use ONLY ketchup.

>> No.5784432

>>5784429
>Chicago is the Texas of food
wat

>> No.5784437

>>5784428
Well yeah, that's definitely what happened. But it could've been both, too. Just wanted to check. As I said earlier, OP's not at fault here.

>> No.5784441

>>5784326
>Ketchup on hotdog
>not mustard

>> No.5784443

Ketchup, mustard, mayonnaise, sweet relish, diced onion.

I am Mexican.

>> No.5784444

>>5784326
a server or cook should pretty much never give you shit for anything. (vulgar, disruptive and behavior that would affect other customers is an exception)
If you're at a restaurant that's not okay to wear a t-shirt to there's a slightly different set of etiquette. Still there's no reason ever to condescend to a patron.

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5784666

>People give a shit what you put on your processed tubes of meat slurry
>Much less are elitist about a product made of meat waste

>> No.5784686

>>5784333
okay jim

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5784694

>>5784326

I lived in Chicago for a year, I got this one guys.

Chicago's "food culture" is based on junk food. Since they have a chip on their shoulder about the importance of their city, and since their self image is based on being "kind of like New York (sic) but in the midwest", they read reviews of new restaurants in the New York Times, look around desperately to find something to "keep up" with, and since they already blew their load yapping about Alinea and they know they're starting to sound repetitive, they attempt to extend their affectations to hot dogs and greasy mystery meat slapped on a hot dog bun with pickled jalapeños.

So you end up with the absurdity of people saying "oh you came here and didn't like the food? well you went to the wrong portillos, you need to go to the one on clark and randolph not the one on lake and belmont, you IDIOT of course you wouldn't like the italian beef, dumb tourist". Seriously, they actually get THIS snobby about their local junk food.

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5784710

>>5784326
The majority of people from these stands always seem like dicks no matter where you go.
>be me last summer
>going to a state park
>there's a beach with a concession building
>some bored looking 17 year old who clearly doesn't want to be doing their job is manning it
>me and friend decide to go in on a meal
>"Yeah uh we'll have an order of chicken tenders-"
>"ACTUALLY, we're out of that."
>only three things left on the menu to choose from
>"Okay...I guess we'll have a burger and a side of fries. Btw where are the condiments?"
>bitch points over to the side with sauce packets and shitty relish
>wait for the food
>frozen burger is dry as shit; fries are those huge, flavorless steak cut ones that aren't edible without ketchup
>go over to condiment station
>no ketchup
>"Where's the ketchup?"
>"ACTUALLY we're out of ketchup."
>"Did you seriously just let us buy this burger and shitty fries without mentioning that you ran out of ketchup when we asked about condiments?"
>no response
>goes back to twiddling their thumbs and hiding from customers
>would throw fries back in if they weren't so scalped
>grab a bunch of mustard packets for fries
>mfw

>> No.5784729

>>5784710
> be me
Who else are you gonna be you faggot

>> No.5784764
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5784764

Ketchup generally is a shit condiment, it's basically disgustingly sweet sugar paste, at least the common Murican style of ketchup.
Best ketchup I've ever had was at a hole in the wall burger place, they had generic "fancy" ketchup packets which were extremely watery favoring the flavor of vinegar rather than sugar, that type of ketchup is god tier delicious.
Rest of you are blobby hopping diabetes pirates and you know it.

>> No.5784803

>>5784764
>sugar paste

Yet /ck/ seems to love brown sauce, which is even richer in sugar. How 'bout that.

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5784828

Chicagoan here

The reason ketchup is a no-no is because on a traditional Chicago dog, there are fresh tomatoes on it. Ketchup is just a slap in the face to the dog. Would you put ketchup on a pizza OP?

Pic related, it's the poster my local dog place has right by the cashier.

>> No.5784855

>>5784429
>implying there's anything good about texas
my sides

>> No.5784859

>>5784326
I keep telling people to do what I do, carry a couple different cheeses and condiments inside your trench coat pockets. Sometime's it's summer and it is uncomfortable, but I suppose you'd rather have a sob story to post on 4chan than a decent lunch.

>> No.5784866

>>5784410
Theres a couple realy sketchy sonoran hot dog places in tucson. I need to try one at somepoint

>> No.5784871

>>5784432
Read the rest of the post. He is messing with texas.

>> No.5784906

>>5784326
I bet you also use mayo with your fries.

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>>5784828
>tomatoes on a hotdog

Looking at that picture, I've developed a theory.

It's said that hotdogs got their start back near 1870, either in St. Louis, New York, or Chicago. A Bavarian immigrant named Anton Ludwig Feuchtwanger is credited with first selling sausages in rolls. The idea to sell them in rolls actually came from his wife. Feuchtwanger originally sold sausages sans bun, and would provide customers with a pair of white gloves so they wouldn't burn their fingers. After repeatedly having his gloves stolen,his wife suggested the idea of using a bun.

1871 was the year of the Great Chicago Fire which destroyed a 4x1 mile strip of the city. This led to an industrial revolution in the city, with 77% of the population in 1900 being foreign born. Most of these people were employed in construction and thus, had low paying jobs.

Most people attribute the first hotdog to the 1893 World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago. Chicago at this time was full of construction workers and their families, they were looking for a cheap way to eat. Sausage stays fresh longer than fresh meat and is generally cheaper. Adding peppers, pickles, tomatoes, cucumbers, onions and a bun made the dish a full meal.

In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, American ideologies were at a culmination. The Great Depression, the Gilded Age and the Progressive Era, all of these led to a mistrust of the American public towards large corporations and monopolies. There was a resurgence of traditionalist ideals and methods of living, specifically, nearing the 1920's. Not only was Chicago pivotal in the role of industrial America, but of American culture. During these times in Chicago, a majority of the populace was poor and in need of food, some of the most iconic photos of bread lines during the Great Depression come from Chicago.

1/2

>> No.5784945

>>5784906
Hell yeah! It's the best.

>> No.5784947

>>5784859
>carry a couple different cheeses
OK i understand the condiments, but fucking cheese? Come on you fat fuck.

>> No.5784951

>>5784710
>be me
Back to leddit you blogger.

>> No.5784960

>>5784871
meh

>> No.5784980
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5784980

>>5784938
A tomato based Ketchup first appeared in 1801, published in The Sugarhouse Book. Heinz first sold ketchup in 1876.

Condiments at that time were considered a luxury, you only bought what you could afford in those days.

I hypothesize that ketchup on hotdogs developed out of a new middle-class America, born out of the industrial boom of the the early 20th century. Hotdogs never had "fancy" condiments on them back when they were exclusively eaten by poor, working class construction workers. This disposition to condiments has leaked into the 21st century and has taken root in the foundations of Chicago/Hotdog culture.

Only disgruntled, disillusioned, poor people from large cities complain about ketchup on Hotdogs.

Prove me wrong.

>> No.5784988

>>5784947
Nothing weird like, I don't have all these extra pockets sewn on and carry a deli with me. It's easy enough to carry a slice of american if you know what you're going out for, or a ziplock of colby jack/muenster/whatever separated by the little pieces of paper.

>> No.5784993

>>5784980
Pork frankfurters didn't need catsup unlike beef hotdogs. There is your problem.

>> No.5784999

>>5784980
I'm not disgruntled, disillusioned or from a large city. I am poor, and I know that you don't cover the taste of a decent hot dog or sausage with ketchup.
You can do it with cheap shit, that's fine, but you're just wasting money by masking the quality ones you spent more money on.

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5785012

>>5784999
>the quality ones you spent more money on
>im not disgruntled or disillusioned

Says the poor, butthurt anon.

>> No.5785139

>>5784326
Agreed, hot dogs are made of pig snouts and linoleum, it's not haute cuisine.

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5785173

>>5784960
i have no strong feelings about this comment one way or another.

>> No.5785188

>>5784429
Right on, man. Only New Yorkers are allowed to be assholes.

>> No.5785194

>>5784938
>>5784980

holy shit anon fucking 11/10 posts

>> No.5785199

>>5785012
You're the one wasting money. If I saw you in the street trying to enjoy a wiener I would slap it out of your hand, you rude, rude person.

>> No.5785202

>>5784694
>lake and belmont,
there is no such intersection u pleb

>> No.5785286

>>5785202
And if there was, the food would still suck.

>> No.5785336

>>5784803
And bbq sauce which is just sugar paste concentrate

>> No.5785339

>>5784326
if its on a shitty dog no one should care, but consider the following.
hot dogs can be purchased which are of finer quality and ingredients, made in styles which demand the attention of the taste buds. if all you're going to be tasting is ketchup, why put it on such dogs? what benefit is there? people generally consider this behavior wasteful. an animal died to put that sausage there, if the quality is good the least you could do is appreciate it

>> No.5785350

Anywhere you got a hot dog that didn't have ketchup was a touristy place that refuses to serve ketchup SPECIFICALLY so that people can go back home and have a fun story about how they didn't even HAVE ketchup at the hot dog stands in Chicago, can you believe it?! What a place, that Chicago!
Because if you went there and wanted ketchup and were allowed ketchup, you'd go home thinking that Chicago was just like any other place, and where you could have all the ketchup you wanted, and you would correct people who mistakenly thought Chicago was any different from any other city in that respect.

There's such a vast gulf between perceptions of Chicago by outsiders and the way people here actually are, especially the things people actually eat. Maybe we eat more Italian beef, maybe we eat more deep-dish. But it's such a misunderstood city.
People think it's cold here all the time, too. "Chicago's winters are long and harsh, and the summers are so short that residents have to take advantage of them with every chance they get!"
Fucking, COULD NOT BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. The winters are long and bitterly cold and harsh, true. I love that. But the summers are long, and EVIL, incredibly humid. I hate them. Chicago's weather, to the world, is bitter and cold. But Chicago's weather, to Chicago, is notoriously unpredictable, totally erratic, and extreme on both ends of the scale. Two totally different stereotypes based on who you're talking to. It's a midwestern city.

>> No.5785403

>>5785350
so chicago is like Washington. cause we live on a god damned swamp and theres no way of knowing if we get blizzards during the winter or not or not. fuck summer in Washington and fuck GW yuppies in training.

>> No.5785431

is American ketchup sweeter than European one or why do they call it sugar paste

>> No.5785434
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5785434

>people bitching about ketchup on hot dogs
>proceeds to cover the hot dog in 5lbs of other condiments
Hot dog snobs don't make any fucking sense at all

>> No.5785439

>>5785403
except you dont really know what winter is if you live in washington

>> No.5785441

>>5785339
Why season anything at all then?

>> No.5785449

>Bell's of Shame
>using an apostrophe followed by an 'S' to indicate plurality
I agree that ketchup does not belong on a hot dog, but these people have rescinded their rigth to shame anybody for anything.

>> No.5785481

That's as bad as faggot's lecturing others about how well their is cooked

>> No.5785490

>>5784326

because he didn't buy some cheap garbage dogs from the fucking store get the fuck out of here with this shit fucking guy sells hotdogs from a cart should have told him to go fuck himself

>> No.5785502

>>5784828

>fresh tomato on a fucking hot dog

what the actual fuck, that's weird

>> No.5785506

Because for some people their entire lives revolve around food

They themselves become the food

If you think this particular food item isn't good enough without this then it roughly translate to saying he/she is not good enough for you as itself

So they feel insulted and will throw obscenity's at you

>> No.5785508

>>5784828
>Ketchup is just a slap in the face to the dog

hot dogs are made from the worst shittiest offcuts possible, your local place gets them delivered by the boxload wholesale, its cheap sausage sold in a fucking bun, the epitome of lowbrow fast food

>hotdogs are haute cuisine now

you wouldn't put ketchup on pizza because it wouldn't taste good at all, it goes with hotdogs, it's made chiefly for hot dogs

>> No.5785537

>>5784828
This post is satire, right?

>> No.5785541

Ketchup on a hotdog is just a steps away from ketchup on prime rib.

>> No.5785544

>>5785537
Obviously. Anyone who knows Chicago at all knows that they don't all eat Chicago-style hot dog salads. But ketchup is still a no-no.

>> No.5785548

Huh, I just realized there is a hot dog restaurant in my town. I've never been because it's right next to the best pizza restaurant in town and I don't get downtown often.

I should plan a day trip

>> No.5785550

>>5785544
>But ketchup is still a no-no.
Still don't understand this, unless it's from a place that has genuinely good sausages.

>> No.5785552

>>5785544
Where do you live?

>> No.5785562

>>5785548
I have a hot dog whiskey bar in my town. It's run by hipsters but the dogs are cheap, tasty, and the whiskies are a bit more reasonably priced than any of the other whiskey bars in town.

Though usually if I'm having hot dogs and whiskey it's because I'm getting drunk alone at home. Kinda weird to do it in public.

>> No.5785569

>>5784326
Personally I would have just told the guy that I won't buy from him again and leave. If I wanted to be a real shithole I would have given him a negative review if he's listed online. Yes some street vendors are listed online.

>> No.5785689

>>5785502
as a rule of thumb seasoning enhances flavor, not overrides it. (seasoning is the application of putting salt in something). if by condiments and flavoring in general, usually its acceptable if the food serves more as a canvas than a paint. for example, talapia is mild and flavorless, perfect for marinading and changing its flavor. if you are working with something quality, you can season and spice, but be careful not to apply things that will overtake instead of enhance its base flavor. for example. putting pepper or fennel in a nice sausage doesn't obscure its flavor.

>> No.5785706

>>5785434
I think the argument against ketchup is it more pronounced and overwhelming of the condiments. Standards like relish and mustard compliment the dog and enhance it's meaty flavor, whereas ketchup on a dog just tastes like ketchup.

>> No.5785715

I haven't had ketchup in years, I don't even remember what it tastes like.

>> No.5785742

>>5784859
>carry a couple different cheeses and condiments inside your trench coat pockets
fucking lol
does your trillby hat dispense sriracha?

>> No.5785748

>>5785715
Me neither. Never cared for it, so I just stopped eating the stuff.

>> No.5785749

>>5784988
holy shit you're serious

>> No.5785792

>>5785706
>I think the argument against ketchup is it more pronounced and overwhelming of the condiments.

I have no particular objection to ketchup, but I do object to Heinz ketchup.

I don't like any ketchup on hotdogs, however.

Which ketchup I use depends on what I'm putting it on. Hunts is better than Heinz for fries, but Del Monte is better for eggs or mac n cheese.

>> No.5785885

>>5784951
>>5784729
Is this some new meme?
>hurrdurr nobody says this on 4chan XD XD

>> No.5786151

>>5784729
>>5784951
being this mad for no reason

>> No.5786161

>>5784326
>bring hidden ketchup and squirt it all over your food after you pay as they see you doing it so they see that you do what you want.

also, I use ketchup, but I'm one of those organic vegans. I try to get organic, low sugar versions of ketchup so that I can actually avoid the corn syrup and taste the flavor or the tomato without sugar overpowering it.

>> No.5786209

>>5785173
Same

>> No.5786233

you faggots are actually getting mad at each other about fucking hot dogs

>> No.5786814

>>5784326

If your ketchup is sweet instead of vinegary and spicy,, there's something wrong.

Also Chicagoans have a huge as fuck chip on their shoulder for no reason, crappy city, stupid food styles for hot dogs and pizza. They can go to hell.

>> No.5786849

I hate ketchup
Chicago hot dogs sound like the hot dog for me

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>>5784429

I'm sorry, but the Real American Way to eat a hotdog is: ketchup, mustard, onions, relish OR chili, cheese, onions. Everything else is weird foreigner influence shit.

>> No.5786887

The Midwest is a cesspool. Seriously. All the wordt, crime ridden cities of merika are in the Midwest. People there are trashy and like to pretend their trashy, shit-tier sausage is good. it makes them feel less trashy.

Seriously the Midwest is not worth your time.

>> No.5786889

No adult should ever use ketchup on a hot dog

>> No.5786891

>>5786889
One could argue that no adult (or anyone really) should eat a hotdog.

>> No.5786892

>>5784429
>You're only wrong if you use ONLY ketchup.

wow. see, you're like the texas of anonymous. roll that around in your head a bit.

>> No.5786894

>>5786889
I take exception to that. No child should ever have ketchup on a hot dog either. That shit'll ruin their teeth and they'll have dental problems for the rest of their lives. Might as well just put ice cream on their hot dogs.

>> No.5786895

>>5786891
I had two delicious free hotdogs for lunch.
No condiments required

>> No.5786899

>>5786894

What ketchup are you getting that it's so super sweet?

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5786933

>>5786899
>he doesn't know the sugar content of ketchup

>> No.5786937

>>5786933

>implying it isn't corn syrup

>> No.5786955

I'm driving across the country and stopping in Chicago tomorrow, is there anywhere in particular I should stop by? I was already considering Malnati's but I don't know any other iconic or standout places.

>> No.5787144

>>5784366
Based.

>> No.5787276

>>5784412
That sounds breddy gud. I might actually buy hotdogs later to try this.

>> No.5787346

I used to live around the corner from a Maxwell Street stand. It doesn't make sense to put ketchup on a Maxwell St dog.

>>5786955
Pequod's

>> No.5787357

>how dare you put ketchup on this processed shit log

lol

>> No.5787363

the vendor was just being a faggot, op. it's a sausage made from a pigs asshole and guts...who cares? that being said, i will eat a hot dog with almost anything on it - ketchup, mustard, peppers, onions, chili... w/e

>> No.5787369

>>5787363
>it's a sausage made from a pigs asshole and guts
served on a bun made with excessive amounts of HFCS.

>> No.5787385

>>5787369
Yep... I mean we all have a preferences with condiments, but a vendor shouldn't get offended because you ask if has ketchup for a hot dog. I can understand that maybe in some regions it isn't a popular topping, but still.

>> No.5788195

>>5784326
That man was in the right and you are wrong for wanting ketchup on a hot dog.

>> No.5788214

>Elitist over fast food

Holy kek that's embarrassing.

>> No.5788256

I think ketchup is fine since hot dogs are low quality meat and don't taste that great by themselves. If you put it on a quality sausage I might silently judge you though.

>> No.5788291

>elitism in hot dog condiments
>only on 4chan

fucking losers.

>> No.5788300

>>5784404

I don't get why people are so insane about ketchup

>> No.5788303

>>5788291
chili is better anyway

>> No.5788691

>>5784333
so what is mustard or relish for? they do the same exact thing as ketchup

>> No.5788952

>mustard and other condiments are a-ok
>but ketchup is not

Yeah go fuck yourselves with your mustard

>> No.5788967

>>5788214

This

This kind of shit goes way past the retarded autism line

>> No.5788973

This is the land of the fucking free

I'll put shit on my hotdog if I want to, because that's my right, and you can go fuck yourself if you have a problem with that

>> No.5788985

http://chicagoist.com/2011/06/06/an_executive_order_you_shouldnt_put.php

ALWAYS do the opposite of what Obongo says

So ALWAYS put ketchup on your hotdog, and ONLY ketchup with nothing else

>> No.5789053

I am from Chicago and despise ketchup.. mostly due to the smell and texture.

However, the places who are snobs about it and refuse to serve it can fuck off.

>> No.5789060

>>5786955
Head into chinatown and get some badass chinese grub. I usually pick any small hole in the wall.

There is also a restaurant where the servers insult you and are dicks the entire time. I can't remember the name though.

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>>5789060
> hole in the wall

>> No.5789418

>>5789068
dat pic, everytime

>dons fedora
>nods respectfully


i genuinely wonder how many fedora wearers are in this thread right now

>> No.5789428

>>5789418
I'm so sick of this "fedoras are bad" meme.
Just because quite a few edgy teenagers nowadays have taken to wearing a hat style doesn't make that hat bad. It's a classy and functional piece of headware, especially if you can pull it off, like some of us.

>> No.5789434

>>5784326
grow up FAGGOT
meat wants something other than sugar you are absolutely wrong and the vendor is entirely right
sometimes living a sheltered life just ruins people outright

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>>5789428
>classy

sure, dude

>> No.5789460

>>5789437
It's funny because the picture is right even if you cherrypicked the examples yourself. Women also want men, not boys, but all men want is girls.

>> No.5789468

>>5789437
both make you look like an idiot.
nudist4lyfe

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>>5789428
That's it. I'm sick of all this "fedoras are bad" bullshit that's going on in the 4chan-reddit feedback loop right now. Fedoras deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine fedora in 1950s New York for $92 US Dollars (that's about $740 in today's money) and have been wearing it for almost 2 seasons now. I can even cut through a microburst with my fedora.

Borsalino hatters spend years working on a single fedora and fold it up to four times to produce the finest hats known to mankind.

Fedoras are thrice as sharp as baseball caps and thrice as warm for that matter too. Any meteorological condition a baseball cap can be worn through, a fedora wears better. I'm pretty sure a fedora could easily bisect Niagara Falls in the rainy season with a simple diagonal tip.

Ever wonder why today's youth never bothered with elegant menswear from more a more civilized age? That's right, they were too intellectually intimidated to debate matters of science and reason with the classy gentlemen and their fedoras of distinction. Even in the Trad Revival, American simpletons scorned the gentlemen with the fedoras first because their class and freethinking ways were feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Fedoras are simply the best mens hat that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the 4chan-reddit feedback loop.

>> No.5789499

>>5789060
>There is also a restaurant where the servers insult you and are dicks the entire time.

There's a place like that in San Diego. It's literally called "Dicks". They throw your napkins, menus, and utensils at you rather than placing them on the table.

Went there one time and asked for a soda refill midway through my meal. The lady took my cup, went to refill it, and then slammed it on the table spilling like two thirds of it. It was an unusual experience.

>> No.5789524

>>5784326
For some reason I don't like ketchup on hotdogs anymore, it's been a couple years now. I used to like mustard and/or ketchup, now ketchup on hotdogs taste really funny. Do taste buds change every 5-6 years or something like that?
That being said, people that get mad about what other people like are children. If I saw some sign like that pic, I would walk right out. Why are yankees always such angry food elitists? I'm from Savannah GA, and I don't get mad if someone said they don't like shrimp & grits, boiled peanuts, low country boil, etc. Why should I care?
(yankees in NY)
>Dats not reeel New Yoooork pizza! You have ta fold it in haalf like this! It's not reel new yooork pizza unless you do blah blah blah to the dough and...
(yankees from Chicago)
>we only eat deep dish here, and if I see you put ketchup on a hat dag, I will blow my fucking lid
(new england yankees)
>No, THIS is how you are suppose to cook blue crab! I think that people only catch blue crabs up here for some reason!

Even when yankees come down to Georgia and we see them put mayonnaise on french fries, it's just friendly discussion about it, nobody gets mad. Then we proceed to give them Brunswick stew and they love it.

>> No.5789565

Fuck Chicago. Shit dogs and shit pizza. Next they're gonna make a Chicago Cheese steak and say it's better than Philly.

>> No.5789578

>>5789499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXZzf_-clt8

I like this skit

>> No.5789646

>>5784333
#truth

>> No.5789662

>>5784803
>>5789591

>> No.5790088

>>5789474

Is this pasta?

>> No.5790095

>>5790088
/tg/ pasta about katanas

>> No.5790163

>>5784326
While I'm not a big ketchup person, it's a fucking hotdog, go goddamn nuts with it. Add all the condiments you want to it. Fuck, put scrambled egg on your hotdog for all I care. Customization is what makes hotdogs good

>> No.5790173

>>5784326
On the day of the rope you ketchup faggots will be the first to go.

>> No.5790194

Supreme chili condiments:
>chili
>onions
>cheese
>franks red hot sauce

>> No.5790616

>>5785715
>>5785748
There are people who don't dip their fries in ketchup? There are alternatives but none that are as good as ketchup.

Hotdogs are forever mediocre. There is no such thing as a good hotdog. However that shitty chicago dog was the first regional specialty I ever had that I found gross. Tried it from two different places and I was with my Japanese friend, so her taste buds are completely different, and she thought that it was gross too.

Deep dish was fantastic though

>> No.5790768

>>5784694
Hi I felt this was an underrated post so I just wanted to tell you that I really enjoyed this comment. Thanks anon.

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>>5784710
>not putting mustard on your fries

>> No.5790837

>>5784326
>Not just cutting him off and telling him "Shut the fuck up and do your job"

Or do what sane people do; Post videos of anti-ketchupfags on YouTube and let the world laugh at the state as a whole for shit standards.

>> No.5790846

>>5784333
You people are worst than fanatics

>> No.5790849

>>5784422
This

>> No.5790861

>>5784326
I wouldn't be this much of a dick about it, but the way I see it there's no reason why a hot dog vendor would need to provide ketchup. it's like an ice cream parlor needing to provide honey: I mean sure, SOMEONE probably likes honey on their ice cream, but it's not a standard ingredient. I don't get pissed when a sandwich shop doesn't have a roasted pepper and garlic aioili on tap, so deal with it

>> No.5790872

How can so many people willfully misread the OP? The OP is about shitty, subpar, abusive service to an outsider. Guy from Canada. In Chicago.

>>5790861
>Honey
>A standard condiment for ice cream
>In what country
>where

Butterscotch, fudge, mallow, fruits, nuts, sprinkles, whipped cream, etc. Principles, principles, principles.

Yes, ketchup and mustard and the like is pretty standard. It'd be like going to a Chinese Restaurant, and begin refused soy sauce.

Also, the vendor's point is that putting ketchup on a hotdog is sinful. It's not a matter of refusing him the ketchup because he doesn't just carry it. The vendor refused the OP ketchup because it was blasphemy to put on a hotdog. He berates and lectures a foreigner with vituperative language as he hocks a tube of smashed pigs assholes.

>roasted pepper and garlic aioli
Would you be mad if they refused you mayonnaise, mustard, cheese, hummus, ketchup, bbq sauce, or any other number of standard condiments for a sandwich depending on its toppings? I'd say yes.

>> No.5790878

Mustard and sauerkraut

>> No.5790879

>>5790872
>Honey
>A standard condiment for ice cream
>In what country
>where
nowhere, that's my point. ketchup isn't standard. some people do it, but that's irrelevant. there are whole cities where ketchup is not put on hot dogs, and OP found himself in one.

>It'd be like going to a Chinese Restaurant, and begin refused soy sauce.
In the principle of Chinese cooking, soy sauce is a cooking ingredient and not a condiment. If you asked a waitress for some soy, she'd look at you funny and take it to mean you think the food is underseasoned garbage.

>> No.5790889

>>5790879
>there are whole cities where ketchup is not put on hot dogs
The inhabitants of which are seemingly provincial and autistic about fucking hotdogs of all things.

>> No.5790891

>>5790889
I don't know, it's their culture, not mine
did you know there are like entire countries that don't put mayo on their shrimp sushi?

>> No.5790894

>>5790891
Mayo is disgusting

>> No.5790895

>>5790894
KETCHUP-LOVING COCKSUCKER NORTHEAST SCUM

>> No.5790899

>>5790891
I wouldn't give a toss if it was cheap shitty sushi. Hotdogs in all but a few circumstances are really cheap awful sausages.

>> No.5790930

>>5790879
Ketchup is a condiment for hotdogs.

In American Chinese cuisine, soy sauce also goes on after the food is done.

Regardless, you somehow set up some wacky strawman (lol there's that word again) in which roasted pepper and garlic aioli on a sandwich is somehow tantamount to ketchup on a hotdog. It's not.

Also, you seem to be ignoring the main point, OP gets abused for asking for ketchup. Not politely refused. Not given an alternative. Not 'gee mister, sorry bout that'.

>>5790889
Also, an insular shithole, that's rapidly becoming the murder capital of America.

>> No.5790937

>>5790895
You like the white stuff

>> No.5790944

>>5790930
>soy sauce also goes on after the food is done
if you believe this, you are so deficient in culinary knowledge that anything you claim on this board is bound to be totally unreadable shit

>> No.5790945

>>5790899
I'll give you a cheap awful sausage

>> No.5790950

>>5790944
>In American Chinese cuisine
>In American Chinese
>In American Chinese
>American Chinese
Here, my illiterate friend. Let me help you.

>> No.5790952

>>5784352
you cared enough to remember ...

>> No.5790953

>>5790952
>>5790952
Some memories are more striking than others. There's something memorable about a black guy nervous on a date patting Heinz ketchup on his plate, and overpouring and then apologizing profusely to his date for making a mess. Most memories aren't choices.

>> No.5790959

>>5784352
>I could give a shit less.

>> No.5790963

>>5790959
>>5790959
It's been magical discussing hotdog condiments with you this morning, but I'll be on my way. Either you absorb the original point of OP's post or you don't. Either you understand his indignation at being mistreated or you don't. Either you side with OP or you don't. Either you answer his questions or you don't.

>Or you concede defeat and avoid the point altogether and sulk and shitpost on a cooking board known for such extravagances as Chipotle and ramen.

Bitch.

>> No.5790971

>>5790950
if you believe that's a real thing, you deserve to get treated like trash by minimum wage street food vendors

>> No.5790980

>>5790963
>It's been magical discussing hotdog condiments with you this morning
Lel, thank you, but I think you may have me confused with somebody else.

>> No.5791229

>>5784828
>Would you put ketchup on a pizza OP?

I do this on rare occasion with day-old cold pizza, it works well if you don't have extra pizza sauce to dip into, as after a day in the fridge everything dries up slightly.

>> No.5791300

>>5784326
This shouldn't come as a surprise. They don't know pizza and they don't know hot dogs. Fuck Chicago.

>> No.5791309

>>5791229
Jimmy Conway detected.

>> No.5791313

>>5791300
>butthurt St. Louis fag detected
Cardinals suck, Go Sox

>> No.5791592

>>5784326
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5atX4U3uEq4

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>> No.5791635

>>5786937

>implying corn syrup isn't sugar

>> No.5792114

>>5789460
Please don't ever speak again.

>> No.5792128

>>5790846
>not using wurst
god, I fucking hate you people

>> No.5792147

>>5792128
>being a pretentious twat over a $1 convenience sausage snack
God, I fucking hate flyoverfags.

>> No.5792155

>>5792147
I believe he was talking about your lack of a fitting pun, tomato sugar sauce baby.

>> No.5792184

How can anyone get fussy about ketchup on a hot dog? Aren't frankfurters basically all pretty shit?

>> No.5792587

>>5791309
>Jimmy Conway
>died almost 20 years ago

I'm a g-g-g-ghost?

>> No.5794435

>>5784828
woah nigga do you really expect me to eat

all that shit