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I'm going to try being vegetarian.

The science is pretty murky about meat/animal proteins, vegan diets...what I want to know is, how many people here are vegetarian or vegan, and how has it worked out for you?

I don't give a shit about the morality, I just want to know if you feel healthier.

>> No.6122653

I ended up gaining weight when I went vegetarian. Carbs, carbs everywhere. My cholesterol went down about 30 points so that was probably the only upside to it.

>> No.6122658

>>6122648
Eating meat daily makes you fat anyway.

>> No.6122660

>>6122653
>Carbs, carbs everywhere.

This

go low carb instead, or at least become aware of carbohydrates in your diet, and maybe cut down on red meat as well. Moderation will grant you better health in the long run.

>> No.6122665

I've been on a plant-based diet for 4 months and I feel great, granted I felt great before as well. Just keep track of your nutrients and calorie intake, like with all diets. That's it, really.

http://whfoods.org/nutrientstoc.php
This is a good resource.

>> No.6122667

I felt amazing when I went vegetarian, but even moreso when I went vegan. Definitely cutting out the cheese from my diet helped a lot. I generally eat a lot of fruits and vegetables.
And my boyfriend eats a ton of carbs and lost a lot of weight too. Like bread by the loaf and rice by big bowl. I don't know if it was the carbs that made >>6122653 heavier.

>> No.6122668

>>6122648
>Forks over knives
The fuck is that supposed to mean? is it supposed to be some sort of pro vegetarian/vegan thing? The use of knives isn't exclusive to meat. Fucking stupid.

>> No.6122669

>>6122660
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XVf36nwraw

No. Don't. Look at the people who are low carb and tell me that they're healthier than the high carbers.

>> No.6122672

>>6122667
>I felt amazing after going Vegan
Lies. You probably feel like shit and also have pale yellowish skin and are also now a turo liberal SJW neo femenist as a side effect of being a vegan.

>> No.6122676

>>6122672
oh yeah you got me there

>> No.6122689

>>6122648
Most studies show that vegetarians have the same life expectancy and health as people who have normal healthy diets that include meat.
Meat isn't the problem. Huge portions and unhealthy food are.

Ironically, some studies show that vegans actually have a shoter life expectancy than meat eaters.

>> No.6122691

>>6122648
>I'm going to try being vegetarian.

I found it difficult to give up cheese and eggs and milk.

>> No.6122708

>>6122691
He didn't say vegan.

>> No.6122720

>>6122708

OP here, yeah. At first I wanted to be vegan but I think I would rather be dead than live without mexican food or pizza. Also, it's so much easier to meet your daily protein requirement with milk.

>> No.6122724

>>6122720

Being vegetarian is not that big of a challenge. You'll do just fine!

>> No.6122756

>>6122724

The biggest adjustment so far is having a salad for lunch instead of a turkey sandwich and eating oatmeal for dinner instead of frozen burritos, which I should probably do anyway.

>> No.6122761

>>6122720
You can still have pizza without cheese.
In fact you can eat way more pizza without the cheese.

>> No.6122767

>>6122720
Why would you even consider veganism, if you're not doing it for warped moral reasons? Veganism is so unhealthy and devoid of nutrients that you have to take a series of supplements.

>> No.6122778

>>6122767

As embarrassing as it is to say, I watched a documentary (OP pic) and found it very convincing. I did some further research and couldn't find anything to discredit it, so I decided to give it a try.

>> No.6122782

>>6122767
You know absolutely nothing about veganism, do you you.

>> No.6122786

>>6122648
I'm vegan and I lost about 50 lbs last year when I was seriously eating better.
These last few months I've gotten lazy and gained 10 back, and started not being so picky with my food (this garlic bread has butter on it?) and not cooking much, but I'm back on the wagon again and already feeling better.

>>6122720
You can have both Mexican food and pizza if you're a vegan. Just skip the cheese or get a vegan substitute.

>> No.6122792

>>6122786
>skip the cheese or get a vegan substitute

Yeah I dunno about that. Pizza without cheese seems so wrong. And as far as I hear, there's no good vegan cheese substitute.

>> No.6122796

>>6122792
Daiya, daiya, daiya.
Best vegan cheese out there. I made a pizza with it and it was the bomb.

>> No.6122797

>>6122669
> posts an hour long video
reallyfaggot.mp3

>> No.6122800

>>6122796
>>6122792
>>6122786

What is vegan cheese even made of?

>> No.6122839

>>6122778

Why is that embarrassing? I've never seen it, but if you did research and are comfortable with your choice, then that is what matters. Fuck what other people think about your diet.

>> No.6122844

>>6122839

Because I feel like many documentaries exist solely as propaganda and to be so taken in by one so as to change your life style is indicative of a lack of critical thinking. But I do feel justified in this case, since I'm at least taking the effort to do further research.

>> No.6122856

>>6122800
Lots of stuff that doesn't make sense. Cashews, tofu, tapioca.

>> No.6122860

>>6122792
Honestly, you get a higher variety of flavours if you take the cheese out which drowns everything.
Italians do it.

>> No.6122874

>>6122797
This guy watched a documentary- it made sense to think he might want to do more research. Quit being a waste of space of people's taxes and kill yourself.

>> No.6122968

I'm a vegan and also a diabetic. Since I'm a diabetic, I have to have a blood test taken in order to check every nutritional aspect in my body every 3 months. These have been taken while i went from eating meat - to being a vegetarian - to being vegan.
Pretty much nothing changed during that time. At some point, my iron intake was a little low, so i ate more spinach, and by the next measurement it was fine again.

If you ask me, the body is designed to be omnivorous. It can sustain itself on a animal-free or animal-only diet, as long as you keep a diverse diet. Science is kinda backing me up on this statement.

>> No.6122990

Too much sugar in everything makes people fat, not animal fat. Our bodies can't process the amount of sugar that companies put into processed foods. Animal fat however it's decent at it. Not as great as full blown carnivorous animals like felines or canines, but better than sucking down all that sugar water or processed food all day.

I say, eat fresh foods as often as possible, cut out soda, eat meat in smaller portions, eat more fish than land animals, and exercise a little more often than not at all.

Becoming vegetarian purely for health reasons isn't a big deal, but when you apply some PETA agenda to it and call it veganism, you're getting close to bat shit crazy territory.

Most vegans I've met are very religious about their claims. They would rather use scare tactics and bogus claims than back their reason up with actual science. Which, as a previous poster stated, is murky at best right now. Which boils everything down to, we need more science.

>> No.6123005

>>6122648
My ex girlfriend was a vegetarian. She's mostly a completely sane, rational person, which for a woman is rare as you know I'm sure. She was one of my best friends for a few years.

But when it came to the vegan shit, she was a mess. She 'just wanted to be healthy'. You know how it goes. To be fair she made alot of delicious vegetarian food. Butternut squash? Forget about it that shit was awesome.

But eventually it started to take it's toll. We couldn't go to this restaurant because they didn't serve vegan food. We couldn't go to the bars because she could only drink wine because it was the only gluten free option.

Had to drop her ass.

>> No.6123011
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6123011

>>6123005
>mfw people who don't have Celiac's refuse to eat gluten

>> No.6123502

>>6122648
I've been a vegetarian for 15 years now. I don't feel healthy because honestly you end up eating a lot of junk food.

>> No.6123511

>>6122756
why not just have a fake turkey sandwich and a bean and cheese frozen burrito????

>> No.6123756

>>6122653
>>6122660
idiots. Low carb as a vegetarian is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Carbs don't make you fat.

>> No.6123784

>>6122648
Don't go full veggie if you just want health. Just majorly cut back meat. Have it at most once a day.

>> No.6123815

>>6122792
>Pizza without cheese seems so wrong
It tastes fine, even if it looks unusual. I like to roast or somehow otherwise precook a load of vegetables and top the pizza with that, as well as extra sauce (and maybe pieces of tofu ricotta). People who have tried the pizzas I make this way have all complimented them.

Daiya is pretty good imo, but fairly expensive and obviously it's not intended to be a health food.

>> No.6123824

>>6122990
>Too much sugar in everything makes people fat, not animal fat
you're factually wrong

>> No.6123828

>>6123005
gibe me her number

>> No.6123836
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6123836

I feel pretty good and get the perk of being able to eat basically all the food I want without worrying about weight gain. I won't attribute feeling good to removing all animal products from the diet though, anyone who eats a decently healthy diet with fruits, vegetables, whole grains, etc is going to feel good. Getting regular exercise is also important.

The main health benefit of following a plant-based diet is that you may have less of a chance of developing many diseases, especially later in life. There's a better chance that you'll retain your health while the people around you start to develop cancers, heart problems, alzheimer's/dementia, etc.

>> No.6123838

>>6123502
>you end up eating a lot of junk food
emphasis on "you". that's a choice you made.

>> No.6123855

>>6122990

>Too much sugar in everything makes people fat, not animal fat

Why can't both contribute to weight gain? Refined sugar increases the appetite and provides an easy source of calories with no real nutritional value, animal fat (and fat in general) is more than twice as calorie dense as carbs or protein and is most easily stored as body fat

http://books.google.com/books?id=hrdRROeCI9IC&pg=PA263

This article is about trends in the global epidemic of obesity http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257829/

It points out the 4 main factors for the obesity crisis worldwide as

>Edible oil
>Caloric sweeteners
>Shift towards animal-sourced foods
>Reduced intake of legumes, coarse cereals, and other vegetables

>> No.6123927

>>6123836
Is that what you typically eat in a day? Seems like a lot of calories.

>> No.6123950

>>6123927

Seems like a lot, but 137 grams of fiber translates to 548 calories, so it ends up being more like 2650 calories for the day. The dates and bananas I had that day were to get extra calories in for my exercise too.

>> No.6123974

>>6123950
Nice. My nutrient intakes aren't quite as stellar as yours. I usually eat ~2000 calories with my fiber intake being somewhere around 90-100 grams.

If you're interested, I'd like some like-minded people to talk to.

http://chat.mibbit.com/?channel=%23wasabi&server=irc.mibbit.net

>> No.6124101

>>6123836
what app is this?

>> No.6124720

>>6122653
>Carbs, carbs everywhere.
This is the biggest trap. If you're interested in going veg, I'd recommend getting used to veggie protein sources first Get in the habit of eating lots of beans, nuts, tofu, seeds, etc., and figure out ways to cook them that you will enjoy . I went vegetarian at 10 and was a bread-&-pasta tard up to about age 22-23. I was skinnyfat, weak, and sickly, and I constantly whined about wanting to eat meat. Then I learned to cook vegan food--huge improvement in appearance, health, and quality of life, and the idea of going back to eating meat seems crazy to me. And I think for most people that would have made for a for a much smoother transition, with much more likelihood of sticking to it.

>> No.6124758

>>6123836
Get more calcium and less manganese.

>> No.6124981

>>6122782
You know absolutely nothing about grammar...
> , do you you

(I actually don't care about anti/veganism. I just had to be first to this retort)

>> No.6125035

>>6122689
This

The meat and dairy industry really has skewed the general populations view on how much of their product they require.

>> No.6125690

>>6122767
I've been a veggiefsg for 7 yesrs,. Haven't taken supplements once. Have an active lifestyle and everything.

Op go for it. Or at least pescatarian.