/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.6149881]

Have you ever eaten at a michelin rated restaurant? Did it live up to the hype?

[Anonymous No.6149891]

What the fuck is Michelin rated

[Anonymous No.6150038]

>>6149881
I've eaten three times at one-starred places.

Excellent every time. Definitely worth the hype.

[Anonymous No.6150078]

Twice. The first time at Jean Georges back in Thanksgiving 2011, and the second time at Chateau de Pray in Spring 2013. In all honesty, the food in Chateau de Pray was more enjoyable than Jean Georges, though it should be noted I ate in there for a Thanksgiving dinner. However, the service for Jean Georges is by far the best I have ever encountered.

[Anonymous No.6150081]

>>6149881
I went to a bib gourmand once. The food was overpriced overworked pretentious rubbish.

[Anonymous No.6150103]

>>6149881

my dad took me (and other family) to Dinner by Heston for his birthday. Was pretty damn goodt, some of the best food I've eaten, though value for money was an issue. At £90 a head I'm not sure it was worth it.

(Its was ** when we visited)

[Anonymous No.6150115]

>>6149891
i hate americans sometimes.

>tfw i am american.

fucking hell.

[Anonymous No.6150118]

>>6150103
Pre Fix, 3 courses?

[Anonymous No.6150122]

>>6149881
When I first heard of the Michelin rating I thought I was an idiot for thinking that it could be the tire company

How the shit does a tire company get into rating the best restaurants in the world?

[Anonymous No.6150126]

>>6150103
£90 a head for a 2-star? That's perfectly reasonable.

[Anonymous No.6150129]

>>6150118

We ordered what we wanted, three courses. I had Nettle porridge, Spiced pigeon and the Tipsy cake.

[Anonymous No.6150130]

>>6150122
>In 1900 the tire manufacturers André Michelin and his brother Édouard published the first edition of a guide for French motorists. At the time there were fewer than 3,000 cars in France, and the Michelin guide was intended to boost the demand for cars, and thus for car tires. For the first edition of the Michelin Guide the brothers had nearly 35,000 copies printed. It was given away free of charge, and contained useful information for motorists, including maps, instructions for repairing and changing tires, and lists of car mechanics, hotels and petrol stations. In 1904 the brothers published a similar guide to Belgium.[2]

[Anonymous No.6150132]

>>6149891
They give stars to good restaurant. If you see a restaurant with star stickers or decals in the window - it's michelin starred.

[Anonymous No.6150135]

>>6150126
Are you eating the stars or the food?

[Anonymous No.6150136]

>>6150135
They're one and the same, that's kind of how it works.

[Anonymous No.6150144]

>>6150126

I'm sure it was a reasonable price for a ** restaurant, but when you can get comparable food for about half the price elsewhere the value is still questionable.

It was very good food, but it was more than double what we would usually pay, and you can get some damn good food for 30-40 pounds.

[Anonymous No.6150146]

>>6150118
>Pre Fix

[Anonymous No.6150155]

>>6149891
>>/v/

[Anonymous No.6150156]

>>6150136
Spunds silly to make such a fuss over what a few pretentious food judges think. I watched a documentary about the whole rating system and there was little to no discussion of the taste of the food. Presentation and snobbery seemed to be the main deciding factor.

[Anonymous No.6150167]

>>6150144
>when you can get comparable food

Except it isn't. If it was comparable, the other restaurant serving that food would have a 2-star rating.

I mean, I get that some people may not get the difference, but that's their problem.

[Anonymous No.6150170]

>>6150115
Quit being a cuck.

[Anonymous No.6150174]

>>6150156
>I watched a documentary

Yeah, I watched a documentary where some guy said it was aliens. So it must be aliens. Our logic is impeccable.

[Anonymous No.6150181]

>>6150174
Meh whatever. You eat your $90 meals, ill keep going to waffle house and enjoy it just as much.

[Anonymous No.6150187]

>>6150174

Not that guy, and I don't have any particular interest in the Michelin system, but I just want you to know that you're really fucking bad at making points and participating in legitimate discussion. What you said was really, really stupid.

Really

really

stupid.

[Anonymous No.6150188]

>>6150181
Okay Skeeter, you keep doing just that.

[Anonymous No.6150192]

>>6150187
>"I watched a documentary so it must be true"
>That's a valid debate tactic anon you suck!

Sure thing, you master debater you.

[Anonymous No.6150197]

>>6150188
Ok thanks. Will do.

[Anonymous No.6150201]

>>6150167
>If it was comparable, the other restaurant serving that food would have a 2-star rating.

Only if they had a Michelin reviewer eat there. There are new restaurants opening all the time and the difference between a ** restaurant and a "normal" restaurant (In the £40+ price range ) isn't as big as you might think. Especially in London.

[Anonymous No.6150205]

Worked at one, never ate as a customer.

Didn't think it was anything spectacular

[Anonymous No.6150214]

>>6150201
Of course it's possible for a new restaurant to not have a review yet, but the ones that are a) likely to get a rating and b) not known about already are very rare. There's little chance of just popping into an unknown restaurant run by an unknown chef who suddenly lands a rating in the next guide.

Although yes, the difference isn't that great in London. I've eaten at non-rated places that were £120 a head, in London. Because London.

[Anonymous No.6150216]

>>6150192

It wasn't me, hence:

>Not that guy

But this isn't a formal debate with "tactics," I'm talking about the basic social ability to make a point to be discussed among regular people. You could have said:

>Was the documentary reliable? I know a lot of documentarians have an agenda, so I'd suggest looking further into it.

Instead, you decided to be a huge asshole about it AND make a really fucking dumb false equivalence.

[Anonymous No.6150224]

>>6150216
Like you said, this isn't a formal debate, so why get your panties in a bunch over an anon you apparently don't know?

>Was the documentary reliable?

What a stupid question. A documentary is not a primary source and you have no idea because it's a documentary, not a peer reviewed scientific paper. "I watched a documentary" is right down there with "Jenny McCarthy said". It's invalid as soon as you say it.

[Anonymous No.6150239]

>>6150224
>why get your panties in a bunch over an anon you apparently don't know?

I have no bunched panties, I just wanted you to know that most reasonable people reading your immensely retarded reply think that both it and you are, well, immensely retarded. I don't see why you decide to fling shit at people on the internet when they've committed no transgression.

As to the question of documentary reliability, you've made yet ANOTHER stupid analogy and incorrectly implied that documentary films can't be equivalent in reliability to scientific papers (which also have notorious reliability issues).

Really, this is kind of pathetic. Sometimes asshole anons will just be like "Yeah I'm a dick, it's 4chan what do you expect" as if that changes anything, but you're actually defending your idiotic statements as if they had some merit.

[Anonymous No.6150243]

>>6150239
>documentary films can't be equivalent in reliability to scientific papers

Just listen to yourself.

>Really, this is kind of pathetic

Well at least we agree on something.

[Anonymous No.6150249]

I guess my issue with Michelin stars is very little of the United States is even covered. and the US isn't like the UK where you can cover London and get a third of the best restaurants. Our largest city New York is a shithole when it comes to food, the only thing its known for is Pizza.

I have been to Michelin stared restaurants in Europe and they were amazing, and I have been to restaurants in the US that were better(not saying US food is better) but the city they were in if they were even in a major city isn't covered by Michelin.

In the US its only New York, Chicago, and the San Francisco Bay area

[Anonymous No.6150252]

>>6150249
>In the US its only New York, Chicago, and the San Francisco Bay area

Where else would you go?

[Anonymous No.6150254]

>>6150243
>Just listen to yourself.

They can be. Maybe they aren't very often, but to imply that you can't create a truthful documentary (even if it is about a subjective topic) is patently false.

The most telling thing about this exchange is the fact that you haven't tried to defend your initial post, most likely because the logic and "hurr what a moron rite guys" tone of it is indefensible.

[Anonymous No.6150262]

>>6150254
>you haven't tried to defend your initial post

Sorry, why should I? Who are you, precisely? Should I care?

[Anonymous No.6150270]

>>6150115
>lol look how cultured i am guys because i know this one thing that doesn't matter to 85% of adults

shouldn't you be hanging out at your local coffee shop pestering the patrons about the correct pronunciation of "espresso"?

[Anonymous No.6150277]

>>6150262
I cannot stress enough how cringe-inducing you are. If you've ever tried reading through some posts you made in 8th grade and feeling like burrowing yourself alive right then and there, then you know a fraction of what I experience reading this. For the love of god, stop.

[Anonymous No.6150283]

>>6150174
>>6150188
>>6150192
>>6150224
>>6150243

haven't seen someone get btfo this hard in a while. Continue please.

[Anonymous No.6150284]

>>6150277
>I have no bunched panties
>It wasn't me

[Anonymous No.6150287]

>>6150156
>>6150187
>>6150192
>>6150216
>>6150239
>>6150254
>>6150277
>>6150283

haven't seen someone samefag this hard in a while. Continue please.

[Anonymous No.6150289]

>>6150287
You really are pathetic.

[Anonymous No.6150291]

>>6150252
Honestly Boston, Seattle, LA, maybe Oklahoma city or Kansas city, all have better restaurants per capita then Chicago or New York. I am not even saying they were wrong to choose those cities, but such a small percentage of the country lives in those areas it simply is in no way representative of the best US restaurants. Its just a little absurd when I hear people from France and japan bragging they are the best at food because they have the most Michelin starred restaurants.

[Anonymous No.6150293]

>>6150289

Lol, I'm >>6150254, and that was my most recent post in this thread. All those after that are other anons who agree that you're acting like a middle schooler.

[Anonymous No.6150299]

>>6150293
>you're

Sorry, I shouldn't have assumed you were that guy. I should say, "All those after that are other anons who agree that >>6150262 is acting like a middle schooler."

[Anonymous No.6150300]

>>6150287
>can't even properly call out a samefag

ouch.

[Anonymous No.6150304]

>>6150289
>>6150293
>samefagging intensifies

[Anonymous No.6150317]

>>6150304

I don't know what you're implying. At which point do you think I was samefagging? These are all my posts:

>>6150299
>>6150293
>>6150254
>>6150239
>>6150216
>>6150187

Assuming you're the anon I've been arguing with, you're backpedaling really hard. It is very cringe-inducing, as >>6150277 said.

[Anonymous No.6150326]

>>6150317
Who the hell are you even talking too?

[Anonymous No.6150336]

>>6150326

[Anonymous No.6150344]

>>6150304
>>6150336

[Anonymous No.6150358]

>this thread

[Anonymous No.6150391]

>guy acts like a dick
>gets btfo for being a dick
>starts accusing people of samefagging as damage control

this is depressing

[Anonymous No.6150774]

>>6149881
I've been to 7 michelin rated restaurants. The 3 star was the most disappointing and stupidly priced.

[Anonymous No.6150786]

Ate at Le cirque

Meme restaurant. Might as well have tchotchkes on the wall

[Anonymous No.6150807]

>>6150249
>The restaurants in NYC are shit
In the whole city the only good food is pizza? Really. You think that

[Anonymous No.6150812]

hmm apparently i have eaten at michelin star places

madera in menlo park i had written off since their bartender couldnt make cocktails for shit
manresa in los gatos was worth it though, taste

[Anonymous No.6150822]

>>6150807
that's obviously a hyperbolic statement, but the percentage of good to bad restaurants is much worse then in LA or SF. can't comment on London.

where New York really lags is in the blue collar food, despite the amount of working class pseudo tough guy pride new yorkers have, shitty diners on the west coast, in my experience , are generally better. Also although new york has almost any ethnic food you could imagine, quite a lot of it is really half assed.

[Anonymous No.6150840]

>>6150156

>I watched a documentary about the whole rating system and there was little to no discussion of the taste of the food.

Restaurants are not graded by the taste of the food exclusively, I don't know why you would think otherwise.

Also "I watched a documentary", really? Good for you, I can't begin to think of how unreliable that could be.

[Anonymous No.6150901]

>>6150115
>>6150132
>>6150155

I appreciate it anons, but... fucking why? I am Canadianpleb, from what I know this is a tire company. What business do they- oh.

[Anonymous No.6151085]

>>6150156
>>6150840

Plus in Japan, the Michelin system is a bit different. Environment, wine selection and presentation isn't as heavily weighted (if at all).

[Anonymous No.6151114]

>>6149891
I spent half a year in Taiwan and ate at Din Tai Fung several times (it's technically a chain). They mainly sell different kinds of dumplings. It's pretty tasty and kind of interesting to be able to see into the kitchen through a huge window.
Though you can't see that much most of the time since it's basically a steam factory in there.
I didn't know they had a star the first time I went there and it would not have made a big difference to me. Then again, I'm not an expert on Chinese dumplings.

[Anonymous No.6151121]

I won't eat at restaurant's that don't have at least two michelin stars. If you do, you're the reason why shitty restaurants stay in business, you've forced your fellow man to consume utter shit, and you should be punished.

[Anonymous No.6152147]

I took my gf to Alinea in Chicago for our anniversary a few years ago. It was pretty nuts, they have really elaborate platings and it was all very beautiful to look at but honestly I was sometimes confused about how exactly to eat about 40% of the dishes. There was a lot of vertical stuff that didn't really lend itself to forks and knives, and the dessert was particularly confusing pic related. It all tasted very good but it wasn't a whole lot of food, mostly just interesting/colorful presentations. It definitely was overpriced (~$800 for the two of us)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qofsdSMuGbg

I had a much better experience at Minibar, even if there was a lot of fucking around with foam infusions and deconstructed olives. It tasted better and I left fuller.

[Anonymous No.6152262]

worked in a one star, eaten at a couple of three stars, a two star and several one stars. as far as living up to hype goes, it depends on the restaurant. the fat duck was awesome. le gavroche was kinda disappointing.

[Anonymous No.6152269]

>>6150277
>burrowing yourself alive

[Anonymous No.6152285]

>>6152147
should've grabbed a spoon and just scooped all that shit up.

[Anonymous No.6152292]

>>6150840
Are there any respected rating systems that only care about the food and maybe the price or do I just make do with Yelp & Urbanspoon?

[Anonymous No.6152300]

>>6152292
>are there any places that just rate the calorie to cents ratio because wine is a scam and I'm just going to inhale it as rapidly as possible and seeing even a quarter inch of uncovered plate makes me upset

There is a show for that

[Anonymous No.6152355]

>>6152292
I know what you mean, like yelpers pretty much will 5 anything good even if it is overpriced. Zagat is a pretty good one though but it is limited to larger cities for the most part

[Anonymous No.6152386]

>>6150156
> I watched a documentary and am now knowledgeable about the topic

Fucking hate people like you

[Anonymous No.6152391]

I tried to eat at Michelin but it was horrible, most rubbery steak ever.

[Anonymous No.6152396]

>>6149881
Yeah I even worked in one, it was definitely worth
too much work, though

[Anonymous No.6153891]

>>6151121
You don't understand how the rating system works, do you faggot?

[Anonymous No.6153956]

I

[Anonymous No.6153967]

I ate at Per Se as a present for my graduation. 3 stars. $300 a head, not even including wine or the extra charges if you wanted the foie gras and truffle dishes. I remember that for a lot of the (12 or so) courses I tried that there were flavor combinations that I never knew were possible on each plate, but honestly, I don't really remember what anything tasted like. I remember walking out and craving a simple steak or a roast chicken. I'm glad I went but I doubt I'd ever do it again.

[Anonymous No.6154002]

>>6152391

[Anonymous No.6154110]

>>6150786
might as well gone to Ching Chong Ding Dong's eggrollers.

[Anonymous No.6154118]

>>6150156
the worse thing about this is the fact you watched "a" documentary, couldn't even be bothered go watch more then one, could you?

[Anonymous No.6154125]

Thread about Michelin rated restaurants, starts hissyfits with effeminate hipster co/ck/tards.

>didn't see that coming.

[that nig with an E30 !ePUl/AW9M2 No.6154545]

I went to Sushi Yasuda a couple of weeks ago with a friend and her dad. I think its Michelin Rated.

[Anonymous No.6154582]

Just ate at one last night, OP. The Star Inn in Harome, North Yorkshire. It was p gud.

[Borneo No.6154584]

I've been to L'Enclume twice, it was simply fantastic both times. Surprisingly affordable too considering the amount of food you get. I'm planning to take my parents there in the summer.

>>6152147
I'd love to just dig in with my bare hands