/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1513447
Only retards would jizz over an adjustable wrench.

> close enough to basically work
> never exactly the right tool
> always rounds bolts
> take up too much space
> teeth get fucked up quickly

>>1513460
But if you’re going to half ass something, you better give it the full 50%.

>>1513447
>How will Cresent fags ever recover?
>Craftsman BTFO
>Is Snap-on even trying?
>MAC fags on suicide watch
Fuck off

>>1513460
>Teeth

The fuck did you just say? Do you even know what a wrench is? Or did you think I posted fucking water pipe pliers? Pull your head out of your ass, you don't even know what the fuck youre talking about.


>>1513467
It's not about the brand dipshit, it's about the engineering.

Listen up mouth breathers. This is the exact reason I'm making this post, in case you're having a fucking hard time reading. Adjustable wrenches blow dicks. You have to adjust them to the exact size and they slip, and you have to pull them off and place them back on.

The pliers style eliminate all of the cons and keep all of the pros plus some. The fact that you can make for minute adjustments with handles allows for

>Minor adjustments
>A firm grasp on the nut/fitting/bolt 100% of the time
>What, for all intents and purposes, amounts to a ratcheting function.

If you work in a trade where an adjustable wrench does or would serve you, this is the one to get.

It's everything the adjustable wrench was supposed to be.

>>1513483
>>>1513467
>It's not about the brand dipshit, it's about the engineering.

Unless it's Knipex. Then it's about the brand.

Kraut Fanboi checking in.

>>1513447
>Post your favorites
The one I need for the task

This is a real mans adjustable "pliers"

>>1513505
Also PB Swiss

>>1513507
Literally why

>>1513447
*nigger wrench

>>1513511

>>1513460
You people know that not everyone is sitting in a garage lined with tool boxes, right? Plumbers, electricians, carpenters, HVAC aren't going to lug an entire set of wrenches onto every roof top and in every crawl spaces? Ignorant mofos.

>>1513447

no way this tool is vastly superior as it only adjusts to freedom units

OP keep using them and you'll get edjumicated at removing stripped nuts and bolts

>>1513513
>butthurt liberal

>>1513516
You're doing it wrong
The jaws have a bit of taper. After putting the wrench on, slide it off a bit and they'll tighten.
Still, better to use a wrench though

heirloom quality tube wrenches anyone? i don't know why these are still getting made, but they're perversely satisfying in an OEM tool pouch sort of way.

>>1513513
>Ignorant mofos

>>1513522
not me jahmal I dont use the pos adjustable wrench on anything. They're junk

>>1513513
anyone with experience knows what size wrenches they need in advance rookie

not a hammer wrench. Going to break.

>>1513516
A bad workman will always blame his tools.

>>1513613
I always blame the guy who worked on the thing before me. Really sucks when that guy was me.

>>1513447
I love my Knipex circlip pliers. My previous pair lasted 20 years, got a couple of replacements from other manufactures but they only lasted a couple of years each. Bought Knipex again and they'll probably see me to the end of my paid work days.

This is one of those "OP is not a fag" threads.

>>1513447

>>1513627
Fluke. Very nice.
>>1513613
Nailed it.
>>1513527
>Installer detected
Let me know when you start doing real work bucko.
>>1513526
That's why I suggested this one. But you probably wouldn't be able to figure out how to properly use this one as well.
>>1513522
That's the other half the problem. Bunch of mouth breathers don't know how to use it properly in the first place. For all you geniuses out there:

>Pic related

>>1513517
Libertarian actually. But regardless, what the fuck does this comment even mean?

>>1513627
I might have to agree. These little Crescent pliers are awesome too, so much easier to use than any other small pliers sets I have used. The meter, the pliers and flush cutter, and the picks have rarely left my workbench in the past couple months.

Also I think I want to get some nice long handle flex head ratchets in the future. Maybe I will get the Gearwrench 120XP 3/8” and 1/2”. Anything I do on my car seems to be way easier with the flex head and extra torque of the long handle.

That HF slim light gets a ton of use too.

Also the 11-in-1.

Keep one in my work bag and one at home. My garbage disposal stopped working and all I needed to take it completely apart was the 11-in-1.

Home Depot has a deal with that and the smaller electronics version in one pack for $19 right now. I grabbed one for the gf’s dad and I want to get one too.

>>1513639

klein one too big monay spender here

my klien one has a little rust on it need to give it a little tlc this weekend

>>1513642
They had 2-packs of the 11-in-1 for $19 a few months back and I grabbed that thing. Well worth it, they’re so handy to have around the house and cars, just like flashlights.

>>1513447
None can prove you wrong. People talk shit when they have never witnessed the glory of this tool. You will never see a used one for sale because nobody will part with it. It can do things that other tools can't do. I am a pro mechanic and do not own a pair but I borrow my buddies when I need.

>>1513447
seems stupid, why would i want to squeeze the handles together while applying rotational force when i could just use a crescent wrench?

>>1513665
Because the Crescent will slip while the rotational force you’re already applying to the Knipex will only make it grip harder.

I want to shit on it too but once my normie friends started shilling for them, I realized there’s something to it. Was playing with them the other day at Home Depot and my girl said she’s gonna get it for me for xmas so we’ll see if it’s under the tree or I need to go back and buy it myself.

>>1513679
Just ordered a pair from Amazon at 22% discount. Thanks OP.

>>1513659 >>1513679
Finally, people who actually know what the fuck they're talking about have showed up.
>>1513689
No problem. I'm amazed I don't see more of these things out in the field. More than happy to spread the word.

>>1513460
>always rounds bolts
Load of shit.

>>1513695
>I don't see more of these things out in the field
They are a bit pricey which might put people off, but I'm sure they'll last years and more than pay for themselves in ease of use alone.

>>1513700
>more than pay for themselves
Knipex is apparently "investing" in free advertising in the form of board spam.
FOAD shills and ram your overpriced kraut tools up your arse.

>>1513639 >>1513654 >>1513642

Ever use the ratcheting one? I'm a fan, although it's configuration seems geared towards electricians rather than conventional

>>1513689
Good luck friendo.

Normie buddy who was telling me to get one said it’s his most used tool (if he can find it since his roommate always wants to use it too). Dude does communication installation by day and engine swapping VWs by night and said the 7” has enough force to crush exhaust manifold tubing. He’s not some Redditor ToolGuy either so I trust him on that one.

I still gotta get a pair but I’m waiting for Xmas, a fat paycheck, or some other good excuse to drop $50-$60 on a pair of pliers. I got the Knipex Alligator and haven’t had a chance to abuse them too much but there’s a lot of little things about them that will make you grab Red instead of Channellock or Irwin Blue every time.

>>1513703
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rA8izxB-zY

Enjoy some more shilling.
Don't speak german?
Fuck you.

>>1513710
Same asshole shills keeping this spam thread bumped every minute.

>>1513703
Dipshit, see >>1513483 like I said it's not about the fucking brand. I happen to be American and finally got fed up with kliens bullshit.

Let me know who else makes an adjustable wrench like that. I'll gladly write up a review.

Or better yet, ask me about a specific tool(general or specifically for electricians), I'll tell you what brand is my favorite.

>>1513630
>File: howtocrescent.jpg

If it doesn't have the arrow, throw it away and get a good one...

Thread still has the same poster count as a few hours ago, so the same shills are refreshing and spamming.
>>1513758 (((you)))
Yeah, everyone knows it's holiday shopping time (mere coincidence, right faggot?) and a meme brand is desperately shilling its garbage in a DiY board. Proof positive its a shitty overpriced product that they resort to such cheap attempts at advertising.

>>1513770
Wow you're pretty fucking angry huh? Tools really set you off? Is it cause you have a tiny tool between your legs?

>>1513781
Shill tactic #1
>respond to facts and observations with personal attacks

I thought about buying it, but then I realized all I'd ever use it for was plumbing and I already have a regular adjustable wrench that does the job

you dummies this is what you use for plumbing

>>1513811
>all I'd ever use it for was plumbing
thats just silly

>>1513815
I mean, there are other uses for it yeah, but I don't do any of the things that I would use it for and I already have other tools that work well enough
Maybe I'll get one to replace my adjustable wrench if I use it enough to warrant the purchase

>>1513516
Adjustable wrenches are great tools for pre-rounding the heads so a pipe wrench can fit perfectly on them

>>1513794
Just so happens that's how 99% deal with autistic screeching on their thread.

>>1513447
Correct, OP. This one, and the toothed Cobra version.

Anybody saying they shouldn't be used is a moron. These things are fucking way better than a normal adjustable.

>>1513527
>said the guy that has never been out to the emergency breakdown of some random machine

good one, maintenance guy.

>>1513890
You know Verizon's roving maintenance guys make like 90gs a year, right?

>>1513895
Was meant for
>>1513892

>>1513515
Freedom units. Dumbest units of measure ever invented. Based of the size of somebodys foot thousands of years ago. And what the fuck is 15/16" fractions are fucking stupid.

>>1513447
>wrench

That's a pair of pliers, not a wrench.

I've never used one of those specifically. Are they infinity adjustable, like a standard crescent wrench, or do they like click into place at specific sizes? I ask because there are many bolts on vehicles that have non-standard head sizes after years of people monkeying around with them and fucking up the heads then filing them to get them flat again and not replacing them with new bolts.

Do they lock into position and not open up when you begin to turn a bolt? I mean do you need to hold the handles together while turning or are they like vice grips? If they don't lock tight like vice grips I can see that being a problem in spaces where you must push with all your might, but can't actually grip your hand around the handles to keep them together. If they can't lock, you'll not be able to use them properly in places where you could properly use a crescent wrench. Instead, you'll end up rounding off the corners of the bolt heads.

It looks well built, but very specialized.

>>1513460
>teeth

OP's image isn't a pair of channel lock pliers or a pipe wrench. It doesn't have teeth. It is intended for bolts. You don't use a toothed tool to loosen or tighten bolts. If you did, it would chew up the bolt head every time you used them. Teeth on such a tool is used for rounded things like pipes where there's no proper grip point.

>>1513487
>You have to adjust them to the exact size and they slip

lol No shit, really? lol

>>1513509
Those are soft jaw plumbing pliers for when you don't want to mess up the outside of something. You only use them for special jobs.

>>1513630
>pic

Too bad the angle of the head requires you to use it incorrectly sometimes in tight spaces. I think it is mostly because the person before you used theirs incorrectly and the bolt head is tightened to the position where you must put the wrench on backwards like they did in order to get it off again. Story of my life really.

>>1513619
Nice.

>>1513930
>Do they lock into position and not open up when you begin to turn a bolt?

I see in this image >>1513705 that they do seem to lock into position. That answers 1 question.

>>1513794
>>1513770
>>1513712
>>1513703

Hey retard. OP here. I'm at work now so I can prove I'm a tradesman and you can shut the fuck up. Nobody is going to waste time shilling here.

>>1513930
I know what they are ass hat. They are pliers that function as an adjustable wrench they click into certain sizes but minutely adjust for in between sizes with the handles. When you apply pressure the mechanism binds up on itself.

>Pic related

>>1513930
This is what I meant by "exact size" you "click" them into a certain size, then the handles allow more precise adjustments

>Pic 1

>>1513930
>>1513941

>Pic 2

>>1513919
>fractions are fucking stupid

>recipe calls for 1/2 cup
>fug that - I'm puttin' in a whole cup
>soupy cake...

>>1513937
Why are you posting a picture taken from the 12th Nov?...

>>1513447
>worlds best non adjustable wrench.
>get raped over double price and pay $300 each for 2 new spinning wrenches
>cut half the handle off
>weld rod box on handle
>weld ball on rod box
>thumbs of furry Mitch.

Kinda sucked tho. Half the time i was following my half ox half man cousin around. The big bastard always sbapped them so tight i had to use one wrench for a hammer all day. Still faster and lighter than cucked snapping wrenches tho

>>1513483
TEETH ARE ON THE HAWS AND GRIPS SHIT RETARD.

IF YOU DENSE FUCKS WOULD TAKE A FLATHEAD SCREWDRIVER AND A WIRE WRENCH TO YOUR SHIT THEN IT WOULD STOP SLIPPING.

FFS

>>1513946
I'm an American. We month/day/year and use fractions because fuck that and fuck you, we do shit our way and when you have the world's largest 2 economies you can do that shit.
>>1513919

>>1513516
Oil plugs should alll be fucking square or rectangle shaped.

Prove me wrong

>>1513940
>>1513941
>>1513943
Hmmm...that is odd. I'd have to actually use one to see how well they work in certain situations. Thanks for the extra info.

>I know what they are ass hat.

Well, the tool is a German company and there's tons of German anons on here now. Sometimes there's language barrier issues. It is good to be on the same page to remove confusion and misunderstandings.

>>1513949
Get your cousin a torque wrench and make sure he knows how to use it properly. Then he won't be over tightening shit all the time and causing problems.

>>1513614
Lol

>>1513697
Either manlets or people built like neanderthals like me. Massive grip and arms. Little dainty girl wrists with stress fractures.

Fml

>>1513956
For context, I'm an electrician. I use these pliers mostly on certain fittings and occasionally bolts/nuts I didn't know I was going to run into.

I used an adjustable for 10 years before I found these. I've never noticed a single draw back. But that's just me.

>>1513794
OH MY FUCKING FUCK NO. YOU AD HOMINEM FAGGOT GET THE FUCK AWAY. THIS IS /DIY! WE DONT NEED YOU HERE SHITTING UP THIS PLACE.

GO THE FUCK BACK TO /B AND KYS.


that being said why has nobody mentioned the biggest hammer you have available?

>>1513818
I used to use one all day every day.

Pulling slimholes with 2 pipewrenches

Fuck my fingers i guess

Pull tubing with aluminum 24" for a backup.

It'll be fine anon

Snaps and tries to gut me.

Thank fuck it's raining so we van break connections all day in the shop.

Tongs are broke. Everyone get on this 7 foot cheater pipe and let's chase our fucking tails

>>1513895
How to sign up

>>1513919
>3rd world jelly brainlet spotted

Stay mad

>>1513956
I dont think they make an open end torque wrench but it would be junk by the wnd of the first day getting douched with salt water and oil.

Thanks tho. I tried to tell that mutherfucker 1 ugga dugga by hand is enough.

Then the rods seperated all day and we had to fish it out.

Took me another 6 months to get big enough to break that shit loose. Lol.

Thank fuck those days are behind me. It's dirty as fuck work and takes an hour to get clean every night. Pay is shit to since most of them dont drug test.

>>1513447
>over $50 for adjustable wrench
lol

>>1513960
I see a lot of bolts on vehicles that are rusted on or over tightened due to retards.

>>1513966
>salt water

Well then.

>an hour to get clean every night

Sounds like grease/oil/petroleum based shit, anon. Wear protective gear so you don't get it on your skin. A life time of that shit is really fucking bad for you. You don't want, "Mechanic's Hands," and I've see it on all the old guys here. I'm the only person who doesn't have it and I wear "sissy gloves" and "sissy masks" as they call it, but I don't have mechanic's hands, a lingering cough, or medical bills like everyone of them has. My own father had mechanic's hands so bad that they started bleeding out where the cracks were forming. He was a mechanic from 12 years old to 71 years of age. He had mechanic's hands most of his life, but they got worse as time went on.

So, when you have to do that work again, PPE yourself up and stay healthy.

>>1513969
>pic

Took me a moment, but top kek.

>>1513966
>I dont think they make an open end torque wrench
That's because you can put a crow's foot wrench on the end and get the same thing but more versatile.

>>1513463
Kek

>>1513977
>>1513966
They make open ended ones where you can change out the head. Snappy and SK sell them.

And you could do the crowsfoot but you need to do some math first.

>>1513969
>Being to poor or too stupid to invest in quality

Sorry about that brokebitch. I'm sure harbor freight has something reeeal nice for you somewhere in the reject bin.

>>1513953
You might be retarded. Get that checked. There are no teeth, these aren't water pipe pliers aka channel locks.

>>1514018
You sound like the kind of pretentious faggot that would use mechanix™ gloves to check the oil

>>1513941
>then the handles allow more precise adjustments
so, there is play between the nut and the tool unless you're squeezing the handles together.
why on earth would someone buy these when you can get a good crescent wrench for less than half the price and there's hardly any play in those?

>>1513890
samefagging

>>1514050
I think the point of them is that there's a mechanical advantage through its design. It looks like some of the torque you put on the pliers is converted to clamping force. So when you start turning it'll clamp itself to the nut on its own/no need to grip it manually.

I could be wrong though. I'm a mechanic in the rust belt, there's no use for adjustable wrenches for me

>>1514050
Jesus Christ how fucking slow can you retarded monkey fuckers really be? See: >>1513940
See the pic? See the finger? See the color change as I exert force? The pliers use the pressure applied to lock up. That means you don't have to squeeze the handles you dumb ape. You can push down with your entire body weight and they won't slip off.

>>1513665 >>1514050

Alright faggot haha very funny you got me.

>>1514030
And you sound like some dumb cheap nigger that buys bullshit throw away tools because you're too fucking stupid to keep track of them anyway.

All the pictures above are hammers.

>this fuckin thread again
why should i buy an overprised cresent wrench when this doubles as small press for stuff like exampls lsa style plugs
i pity you imaginationlets

>>1514086
You could've said that shit a little nicer. Agreed. These things are awesome and if you don't think so, that is because you don't know what you are talking about.

Go ahead and make yourself look like an idiot. We don't know who you are.

>>1514259
You may not need them. If you do serious work, you will appreciate them. Imagine a flanged rod with a design feature that you must access with a crowfoot in order to apply critical torque. It is so tight that your crowfoot just opens up and slips. Your crescent wrench won't fit unless you grind it skinny and even then it won't work because your high dollar crowfoot can't hold. OP's wrench will take it right the fuck off. Before they came up with this shit, I made a too
With two vice jaws with half a hex cut into each, attached with a chain and closed with a bolt. It was a ten minute job just to use the thing.

>>1514265
read my post again
ive been using this thing for over 6 years now and its definitely one of my most used ones
the killer feature are the smoth parrallel jaws, way more versitile than a simple wrench

>>1514260
Uh oh Boyz. The Reddit pc police are here. Kys.
>>1514270
What fucking tool are you talking about

4channel really killed this board

>>1513959
Can't happen with the knipex thing because you also clamp down harder on the nut at the same time.

>>1513460
>complaining about adjustable wrenches rounding bolts
This is a dead giveaway that someone is a garbage mechanic. Yes, a properly sized combination wrench or impact is the better option in most cases, but and adjustable will work fine for light work if used properly. I would prefer an adjustable for work at the top of a ladder, rather than lugging a shit ton of wrenches up there. I also keep a small adjustable with my bicycle for the same reason. I have never rounded a nut or bolt with an adjustable wrench because im not a hack who doesn’t understand how to properly torque a nut.

>>1514297

this. but wait for the /diy/ brigade to tell you how stupid you are.

the first tool I ever bought was a 6" adjustable to work on my bike. I still have it 40 years later, and it still works great when it makes sense to use it.

most of being a good mechanic is knowing which tool to use, and the limits thereof.

>>1514300
>I still have it 40 years later
duude

>>1513969
I wonder who's behind this post?

>>1513966
>I dont think they make an open end torque wrench
sure they do

>>1514139
>All the pictures above are hammers.
everything's a hammer if you really need to hammer

>>1513447
Ill shill for Knipex all day long.
There is a negative connotation of something being a meme on this board.

Just because its shilled a lot doesnt mean its actually a joke or a bad tool or anything like that.
They are unironically very high quality tools. On par with every other quality brand I own, which is why they are expensive like every other brand.

The Pliers wrenches just are unique enough that they get the most attention, they really are cool and work well.
I actually gave 3 pair of them out as christmas gifts last year and have heard good feedback about them.
And they arent even hard to come by. They are currently sold at fucking Menards (they have Orbis brand too). They used to be sold at Farm and Fleet and Lowes.

You really dont understand how great they are to use until you try them. And the rest of their more normal tools are just quality, which is nice if you are looking for something higher quality than your typical junk at the hardware store.
Im a big fan and have bought a whole bunch of their tools, I dont regret it either.

>>1514019
i don't know what you're calling teeth, but op's channel locky adjustible wrenchy thing quite clearly has teeth by my eye

>>1514381
>but op's channel locky adjustible wrenchy thing quite clearly has teeth by my eye

There are teeth for the pivot and locking mechanism, not on the jaws. They are smooth jaws which is the exact opposite of what the other guy said.

>TEETH ARE ON THE HAWS AND GRIPS SHIT RETARD.

>>1514381 >>1514390
LMAO what a fucking absolute dipshit

>>1513515

It adjusts to metric too, you tard.

>>1514971
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This fucking retard doesn't even know the difference between standard and metric adjustable wrenches

>>1514980
>difference between standard and metric adjustable wrenches
Standard: Made in USA
Metric: Made Somewherelse

>>1514297
>>1514300

The problem with an adjustable is not working on a bike or knowing how to "torque" your nuts. It's more when you have to work on previously tightened nuts and bolts or working on rusty bolts and nuts.

>>1514275
What is Reddit? I'm just saying bro. You right but everybody thinks they're the best. You can be more convincing while you let people figure out that they are dumb on their own. The "idiot" line was ment for someone else but I'm still getting the hang of these internet thingies.

Knipex will credit Christmas for the bump in sales.

>>1513895
irrelevant to my point

>>1515303
What is your point

>>1513447
Where do the batteries go?

>>1515975
In your mouth

>>1513954
You know the economy has nothing to do with our shitty measuring system

>>1513447

>>1513955
>Prove me wrong

>>1516079
But anon, apparently we have 2 economies!

I work at a thrift store and get in all sorts of junk donated to us including tools

what sort of things should I keep an eye out for to start /diy/ and /o/ing?

like what tools should I seek out and what commonly used sizes should I try to get

>>1516111
Get the proto/mac/SK for your self and sell the crap on and crapsman to boomers on eBay.

>>1516117
I have a bunch of USA made craftsman that I bought back in 2002 that I’m looking to unload. Is eBay really the best option? Between shipping, their cut and the seemingly low ball bids it looks pretty depressing.

>>1516245
They were never that expensive to begin with and they only switched production to Asia a few years ago so how much are you really expecting to get?

It’s the same thing with old fishing lures. Anon’s grandpa dies and he gets a tackle box full of crap from the 60s and 70s and thinks it is some sort of collectible. The problem is that everybody inherits their grandpa’s crap and tries to sell it. The stuff is outdated, and you can buy brand new stuff for so cheap that is more functional and less rusty so it wouldn’t be worth paying any real money for anon’s grandpa’s crap unless you get it for real cheap as a novelty.

>>1516248
Not a boomer so I’m not expecting close to new prices or anything. If eBay is as good as it gets I’ll save myself the time and effort and just throw the shit in buckets and head down to the thrift store myself, at least some kid might get a good deal instead of fleabay Jews getting my money.

>>1516256
Or Craigslist? But you gotta debate if it’s worth your time to sell one person a few sockets, another person a couple wrenches, some screwdrivers to a third. If it were me, I would put the whole lot on CL and the first person to give me anything close to a reasonable offer can have them.

If you want to donate them to the thrift store, might be worth calling up some local tech schools and ask if they will take a donation. Get a tax writeoff out of it.

>>1516079
It grants us the power to do whatever the fuck we want, you little beta bitch.
>>1516109
California has an economy and its the largest in the world (after the rest of the us). Dipshit.
>>1516111
Klien, fluke, Milwaukee, Craftsman, knipex, wera, snap-on, blue point, estwing. Just keep an eye out for quality is all.
>>1516245
Yes.
>>1516256 >>1516280
Or habitat for humanity.

>>1515984
>not pooper
one job, anon

>>1513447
>best adjustable wrench
>inset notches for each measurement
Fuck this. I service fireplaces for a living. Not every nut is made alike and not every nut hasn't had some idiot before you come and round off half of it. Sometimes you need to be in between 1/16" and sometimes you don't. Traditional wins.

>>1514980
>This fucking retard doesn't even know the difference between standard and metric adjustable wrenches
One smokes and the other eats beef?

>>1513507

>>1516470
>>1513941
>>1513943

Every single notch has the ability to increase up to 1/4in. That's a lot of overlap homeslice. This wrench covers every size from 0mm to 1.5 inches.

>>1513705
Using adjustable wrenches or any "universal" tool while workers for the most part frowned upon. You risk damaging fasteners and material because you're to lazy to get the right tool. You can't even make the excuse of immobility and not having tools on hand.

>>1516671
see >1513511

>>1516671
see >>1513511

>>1514139
Found a fellow electrician, nice

>>1516671
Dude. At least read through these threads before making these dumbass comments

>>1513815
Used mine to break into my own house. (Pedestrian door in garage has a crappy handle but still locks)...family locked and left me w/o a key one day so I grabbed the old ridgid 18" and popped it open with no problem.

Unconventional but hey, that's life.

>>1516675
It’s called an Alabama Socket Set.

>>1513890
Worth the weight in my tool bag.

>>1516111

>>1516311
For DIY kobalt is pretty decent quality. Husky is ok too I guess. Snatch any pneumatic tools you can.

>>1517056
I have a Kobalt stubby 3/8 drive 90 tooth ratchet and I really like it, it's honestly my go to, it fits in a lot of places and usually I don't need a ton of torque, though the nicest stuff I've used is USA craftsman stuff.

Work in IT and they have all their own tools but I do my own car work/maintenance and I use sockets and ratchets all the time. It's one of those things where I would like a new nicer set, but the one I have works perfectly fine and there's no need to overbuy. I guess wait until my crapsman breaks to buy nice shit.

Your model is for delicate work. I use a wrench like this one.

Pic related arrived today

OP is based.

>>1517385
nice those are the new ones

>>1517388
That’s the comfort grip. Those have been out for years. They also make an electricians version of most of their tools.

>>1517407
im not talking about the grip, they made a newer version of the pliers wrench recently

>>1513639
Totally my go to screw driver. I have a couple of the older 10-in-1 and a 11-in-1.
Ome in the tool box, one in the electrical bag, and one in the general tool bag.
Not in a trade just a handy guy who is always called for help.

>>1517410
Ahh I see, the jaws are smaller. Not bad because that thing always looked like quite a big hunk of steel.

>>1513523
Why would you want to use one? If you have enough space to use one then you have more than plenty space to get a socket on it

>>1513447
Pretty neat, those would totally replace all my metric and imperial spanners. I especially love how they look like they wouldn't damage my fittings - even ones with chrome plating. That hinge bolt looks very sturdy like it would prevent unintentional shifting and the ratchet type principle allows quick and easy tightening and release of all bolted connections. Not only does that look like it could replace any adjustable spanner, but it also looks like it would be good for tightening locknuts, exerting pressure to activate the adhesive power of contact adhesives, edge breaking in tile work, snapping cable ties, utilisation as a small vice.

How much were they?

new to tools because I am trying to learn to work on my car and around the house

what is OPs pliers good for? is it something I should look into getting

also what sockets wrench and regular wrench sets would you recommend? pic related is what happened to mine when I tried to use a cheater bar on it lol. my current sockets should be still fine right? or do you really need quality/expensive sockets too?

at what price point are you just getting memed?

>>1517799
First things first. Buy a breaker bar so your pic doesn't happen again

>>1517799
>pic related is what happened to mine when I tried to use a cheater bar on it
If the ratcheting mechanism still works, it's a keeper.
>>1517799
>use a cheater bar

>>1517823
>Buy a breaker bar
This

>>1517617
Not if it's a nut on two inches of allthread.

>>1517873
nah it broke the pin that holds the socket on the drive lmao

>>1517618
>shilling this hard

>>1518078
Are you bepis?

>>1517799
>what is OPs pliers good for? is it something I should look into getting

Its a pair of pliers that work like an adjustable wrench. Smooth jaws that open parallel so it grips bolts without damaging them.

Yes they are high quality, yes they are expensive, no you shouldnt buy them right now

They are a tool that is versatile and nice to have, on occasion. Youll find this is the case with a LOT of tools. Very versatile... on occasion.

Get yourself a base line of tools first before buying anything like that.

>do you really need quality/expensive sockets too?

Depends on what you consider expensive.
No you dont need the most high quality and expensive sockets out there, but tools still cost some money.

https://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-Combination-Wrench-Keeper-Metric/dp/B00OXUPFDU/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MDO6L90/

Here you go, for ~$160 youll have a quality wrenches and sockets, in both SAE and Metric 1/4 and 3/8. Lifetime warranty. Its good stuff.

Then from there you can buy any sorts of pliers and hammers and screwdrivers and whatever what have yous that you end up needing. But those are a lot easier to walk into a hardware store and just get, sockets and wrenches are a lot trickier.

>>1517385
You got it.
>>1517799

>>1518135
What this guy said. I'm an electrician so they are the perfect tool for me. They cover 90% of what I would need a wrench for. I don't think a mechanic would find much use for them as they need a wide variety of wrenches for a wide variety of reasons, so they'd most likely have the specific wrench they need, already on hand.

>>1518111
He wishes.

I won’t use round heads. I had a friend who loved to buy those cheap ass HF sockets sets and the round head ratchets would fall apart after a couple jobs and mild use. I don’t think I could ever even buy an SK ratchet because I despise the round heads so much.

>>1518344
Are you retarded?
Dumbest shit I've ever heard

>>1518344
>round heads
what do you mean? what sort of ratchets are meant to be good and does head shape determine the strength?

>>1518440
Nope, bepis just being stupid.
The pawls and the square drive are what fails on any standard wrench of any quality.
To shit on SK ratchets (and William's ratchets funnily enough) because of their looks is very telling

>>1518432
>>1518577
>because of their looks
No, it is because I have had terrible experience with round heads.

I know that an SK would never fail unless you were doing something incredibly stupid, but I just can’t trust the round heads since I have never had even a cheap pear head fail on me, but every cheap round head falls apart under moderate use. There’s a sweet double pawl Wright round head but I don’t think I would ever buy it over a similar price Proto or something.

And I’ll take the Williams sealed ratchets. Also SK has a new pear head that is real nice and expensive as fuck, but I believe right now they only sell it in a standard length 3/8” drive.

>>1518440
Cheap ratchets are cheap ratchets. But if you’re going to spend <$10 on a ratchet, spring for the $6 pear head instead of the $3 round head. The $6 one will last much longer.

Good round heads should last a lifetime. SK has been making them fucking forever and nobody complains about those. IMO the pear head is a better design for a handful of reasons which is why the majority of ratchets use that design, but I wouldn’t shit on anybody who likes their SK. I just wouldn’t buy one myself.

>>1513758
>got fed up with kliens bullshit
explain? im thinking of buying klein wire strippers

>>1518608
They coasting on the quality that they used to produce. They are slowly selling out to ching chong chewy and it shows. Their dikes and linesman's dull up after about a year of use, and I don't abuse my tools either. Their screwdrivers are beyond shit-tier. That's why you'll notice in my pic >>1513937 they're slowly being replaced with European brands such as wera and knipex.

And if I do buy klein, it's because the other brands don't have a similar tool in the exact configuration that I like, such as long-as-fuck nut drivers.

>>1518622
When I get home I'll show you my current klien linesman's vs 40yr old klien&sons pliers I found in my crawl space. The things are fucking immaculate.

>>1518608
Sparky guy has more experience with me concerning all the overpriced Klein tools I’m sure, but the strippers have served me well. My favorite thing is the fact that Home Depot will warranty them as easy as they do with Husky tools. The strippers and cutters are sort of a wear item, I recently had an old ass pair of the small $12 ones that was presumably fucked from trying to cut something too large and too hard, lady at Home Depot was just like “Ok go grab another one!”

Anyway the wire strippers aren’t as overpriced as lots of the other tools. Their screwdrivers and other pliers cost 5x as much as other brands that would do the job fine for a weekend warrior, but the strippers are only a couple bucks more than shitty cheap ones so it’s easier to justify the cost.

>>1518577
Speaking of round heads, I’m still curious about pic related. Sears and Amazon both have em on sale for like $40 right now. There’s mixed reviews though and lots of people say the F/R selector switch breaks off.

>>1518585
>but I just can’t trust the round heads since I have never had even a cheap pear head fail on me

correlation does not imply causation

>>1518590
The shape of its head has literally nothing at all to do with its quality.
Case in point, the motherfucker put a cheater bar and bent the handle and the pawls did not fail.
You are spouting literal garbage with no basis in reality.
The shape of its head has nothing to do with its price either.

>>1518638
>lots of people say the F/R selector switch breaks off.

What do you expect, GearWrench is trash nowadays

>>1518686
Kek, I have used a lot more pear heads than round heads and round heads are the only ones that have failed. But as I said, they were all cheap ass ones and the whole mechanism likes to just explode and fall out of the body of the wrench.

Anyway you’re being salty internet argument man. The expensive round head ratchets are good, but they still suffer from the inherent issues with round head ratchets. Can’t flip the F/R switch with one hand like the pear heads and if you ever fuck the teeth on the body of the ratchet, there is no way to rebuild it. You probably won’t wreck those teeth on an SK unless you’re being even dumber than me, but it’s still worth mentioning.

>the shape has nothing to do with the price
Jesus christ. People on the internet don’t even read, they pick out a few words, get angry, and then write a bunch of dumb replies. But in response to this, the cheapest, shittiest Chinesium socket sets always have those round heads in them. It’s obviously cheaper to manufacture a cheap round head than a cheap teardrop.

>>1518687
Meh, it’s not the same as the ol’ KD tools, but it’s nice for the money. I would take most GW tools over other affordable Asian brands. I have liked everything I own from them and there’s only two products I have ever seen mediocre reviews on from them and both are from trying to engineer special tools that can’t take the abuse that people expect of a regular wrench with zero moving parts.

>>1518624
Did you make it home ok, honey baby?

>>1519061
Was wondering the same thing. I stayed up all night waiting for anon to get home but he never showed. I hope he wasn’t out all night cheating with another image board.

>>1519068 >>1519061

Sorry got really high and forgot. I'll set a reminder on my phone this time. Just give about ~8 hours


Thanks for asking tho :-*

Knipex pliers are pretty great, I've dropped mine off a 20 story hotel and they're still going strong over ten years later. Will post pics later tonight

>>1518698
>People on the internet don’t even read, they pick out a few words, get angry, and then write a bunch of dumb replies

What do you expect when you post a bunch of conjecture based upon weak anecdotes?

Knipex pliers are pretty great, mine were at the center of a thermonuclear detonation and and they're still going strong over ten years later. Will post pics later tonight

>>1519150
Cheap round heads are the shittiest ratchets out there and there’s nothing you can do about it...

>>1519157
Irwin Pliers are just as good as Knipex. Mine flew on the Enola Gay and they are still going strong. Would post pics but they’re on my other computer along with all the Kate Middleton noods.

>>1513447
Knipex ajustment mechanism just cannot withstand the power of an American mans hands.

Get on my level niggers

>>1519157
>>1519161

There ya go jerkoffs. Date code on the side is 2005. Used doing L.P. and Natural Gas for over a decade, absolutely nothing wrong with them. Not a shill.

>>1519169
Trash. Too complicated.

>>1519193
What in the fuck am I ever going to do with THAT

>>1519215
Stick it up your poop chute. What else are you supposed to do with meme universal tools?

>>1519269
Look on the box, and if its made in Taiwan and/or by the Apex tool group, claim that its an amazing tool.

>>1519275
Hmmm now you got me thinkin. I hate universal “One Size Fits All!” bullshit like that, but I love Apex..

Nothing beats Kobalt’s original universal spline sockets. Each socket was marked with a metric and inch size and everybody who used them was mangling fasteners.

I win

I always make sure I've got plenty of this. Never want to run out.
Also, isopropyl alcohol. Always have a 5 litre container somewhere in the shed. Can also use it in petrol to seperate water in the gas tank

>>1519352
Both for cleaning, right?

>>1513627
>not the 87

KYS

>>1519355
WD40 for stuck bolts and IPA to clean tools and prevent rust

>>1513447
Personally I'm of the opinion that a important qualification for a tool is the price. While a 50$ tool might be better than the widely available huge assortment of used tools that can be found on craigslist fairly easily for far cheaper.

Something has to be significantly better for me to pay that much for it.

>>1519362
>IPA to clean tools and prevent rust

alcohol does not prevent rust long term. wd40 actually does a fair job of preventing rust.

>knipex informercial thread
lmao like how can you justify $55 for this ginsu knife tier meme wrench, nigga. just use channellocks, nigga. $15 and made in the usa.

>>1519388
With that logic "nigga", why dont you just buy harbor freight pliers as they will work too.

Channellocks kills the knipexfag
>>1519389
LMAO nice reading comprehension knipex shill. Nice to see you are obsessively refreshing (so you instantly see saged replies) to keep the knipex meme going.

>>1519392
>being called a shill is a bad thing

Am I supposed to feel shame for buying high quality tools?
Should I be buying my clothes and food at the dollar store, and living in a rusty old trailer too?
Maybe I should cheap out on my healthcare too.

Or maybe, just maybe some things are actually worth paying a little extra to get something better in the end.

Regardless, go on and show me your channelock parallel jaw pliers anon.

>>1519395
>living in a rusty old trailer too?

trailers are made of aluminum, for the most part, and do not rust.

>>1519397

>>1519397
Cant afford the $100 to buy a press?
Such a luxury is too much for you?

Hmm, sounds like just the guy to talk about high quality tooling with.

>>1519399

heating connecting rod to push wrist pin in

>>1519400
>Cant afford the $100 to buy a press?

press tends to gall the piston and the rod. heating makes it SMOOTH AND EASY

however I am totally impressed that you knew the context. would wrench with.

>>1519395
>shilling this hard
It's ok anon, you can be king of autistic mountain with your meme pliers. Everyone already understands there's good reasons Channellocks are in every plumber's toolbox and knipex are not.

>>1519392
Fuck channelocks those things get so sloppy after a couple weeks of moderate use. Maintenance guys carry for convenience not because they do a good job.
Cobra >Channelocks

I travel to service european diecasting machines integrated with all kinds of atomated shit. Who know what kind of fastners Id have to deal with.
I used the knipex most of the time. I cant afford the space needed to carry full sets of metric and standard sizes. If need to fiddle with hydraulic fitiing and such then I would bring the bag with open end wrenches and occasionally use the crescent nut rounder for odd sizes.

Took me so long to find another set of this kind of stripper.

>>1519392
>Channellocks
dogshit, enjoy being poor.

>>1519449
+1. People hate to admit it because muh USA, but they are mediocre. I would rather have a $25 Taiwanese pair than a $25 pair of Channellocks. I haven’t been impressed with any blue handle tools.

>>1515095
>rusty
Pic related and other similar always solved for me
>tightened
Well, never had a problem, but never had to loosen a bolt bigger than 3/4.

>>1519473
You have never worked on a car from the midwest I see

>>1519469
Nah. Fuck knipex, why do you need an overengineered locking plier? Its a locking plier! Channellock's simplicity is far,far superior. You can feel it in the grip aswell

>>1515095
>It's more when you have to work on previously tightened nuts and bolts or working on rusty bolts and nuts.

If you are using an adjustable wrench for that you deserve the hell you have created.

>>1519395
This man does not use tools

>>1519469
true that.
>>1519518
because the knipex are superior in every.single.way

perhaps everyone else is wrong and you're right, though.

>>1519449
Says the guy who knows no trade

>>1519404
>there's good reasons Channellocks are in every plumber's toolbox and knipex are not

I don't know those reasons, enlighten us anon

>>1519546
Plumber stud here. I have been given several knipex by a retired sparky, never use them. Might be good for tightining conduit compression nuts. They are just not suited well for very stronk hands.

>>1519536
Be Amerifag, Worked with a bunch of nonunion polacks, all they used was knipex, the union muricans on the job all blue handles. Tried the pliers out, ridiculous tool.

>>1519388
Channellocks? You're a fucking hack butcher.
>>1519404
Dude. These things are not fucking channel locks. There no teeth dipshit. We've been over this, this is a separate tool, not comparable to water pipe pliers.
>>1519469
I'm gonna fucking reeeeeee. You use channel locks on brass fittings? I'll slap the shit out of you and throw you off of my jobsite.
>>1519518
THEYRE NOT FUCKING PLIERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

ITS A GODDAMN WRENCH. A SEPARATE TOOL. NOT USED FOR THE SAME TASKS.
>>1519534
But I do.
>>1519569
This particular tool is not affected by hand strength.

hey bby

>>1519579
>hand strength
When they say that they mean their greasy fat fingers slipping off the grips.

>>1513613
And a good Workman doesn’t use an adjustable wrench. A Pittsburgh bring wrench set is better

>>1519579
>THEYRE NOT FUCKING PLIERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>1519590
Yeah I fucking know. What I meant is they're not water pipe pliers. As I've previously stated here:
>>1513940

We've been over this.

>>1519580
>*slaps you're gf's ass*

>>1519474
H-how bad is it?

>>1519600
It's not. Some pussys just think that the grass is always greener on the other side and they are so poor and unfortunate to live in the Midwest.

>>1519569
>They are just not suited well for very stronk hands

Why not

>>1519632
Because Americans are obsessed with manliness, so an insult usually includes implications that (You) are feminine.

>>1519474
>just california things.

For awhile you could tell who lived in the state for a long time because the clear coast on all the cars peeled off from the malathion spray the state paid for

>>1519600
cold welded in place, drill it out with a carbide drill bit a quarter inch at a time after snapping the fucker clean off

>>1519546
Dumb americunt who thinks the world revolves around the US of A.
Everyone uses Knipex and nobody uses Channellocks over here. There is no reason at all to import crappier tools

>>1519632
Basically when people say this, it's a tell-tale sign that they are using their tools in an unintended fashion. Usually they're using channel locks or adjustable wrenches in the reverse direction, as illustrated here >>1513764 And here >>1513630.

Essentially, they're applying too much pressure and the incorrectly positioned tool malfunctions in one way or another.

>>1519672
Lol the world does revolve around the US of A. That's why you little eurocunts are so salty.

>>1519677
>That's why you little eurocunts are so salty.

The only one salty is the guy who refuses to believe a foreign brand could actually be good.

>>1519677
>Americans are obsessed with manliness, so an insult usually includes implications that (You) are feminine.
>That's why you little eurocunts are so salty
POTTERY

these kleins seem good? $20 for a 10-28 AWG stripper. also what's the deal with the klein kurve? extra leverage or somethin?

>im in a shill thread
wew

>im in a shill thread
wew

>>1519705
Third time's a charm, Anon. Go for it.

>>1519612
Idk about the Midwest but on the east coast we salt the roads for snow and that shit fucks everything up. We only use wd40 to pretend we're doing something when really we're deciding between a cutting torch, drill, or air hammer.

>>1519701
>>1519705
YOU CAN DO IT ANON
BELEIVE IN YOURSELF AS I BELEIVE IN YOU

>>1519717

what posts are disappearing. inquiring minds want to know

Grandfather retired from maintenance job, had a pair of these laying around, and gave one to me. Klein Tools INS-1005, rated for working on 1000v systems (not that'd test that, but the insulation is beefy enough to make me believe them). These are the toughest cutters I own, and I've been using them for brute for shit but I recently realized that they're actually somewhat nice. Thankfully I haven't abused them to the point of damaging the blades and I'll be treating them much better now. Plastic and copper only for these guys from now on.

>>1519719
Some smart guy who thinks we're shills and wants to prove it via highlighted random shit but can't highlight properly.

>>1519719

>>1519751

ok that's just weird

>>1519715
Same shit. WD is KY jelly for the torch. But things improve with proper wrenching form. When I lived in Midwest, I just hose under car and Hood with engine running at 25 cent car wash every six months or so. California now. Can't say its much different. I'm just saying. Midwest laments sound pusillanimous.

Channelocks fit in the hand like a "1911", knipex very uncomfortable.

>>1519699
I have those. The curve is supposed to make them more ergonomic, and honestly it’s nice for when you’re spinning around a wire to strip it.

Downside- they don’t have a spring and they don’t lock, but at the expense of that you get the crimper at the bottom. I find the ones with the spring and lock much easier to use with one hand when your other hand is holding the wire or whatever.

>tl;dr
Get the other curve model if you don’t need the crimper

>>1519735
I recently got the Channellocks that are real similar without the 1000V protection. Wanted to buy the Klein, but it seemed like too much to drop $40 on them. The cutters at the tip are great though and it crimps way better than the all in one tools like >>1519699

>>1519660
My car spent 5yrs in Chicago and 5yrs in Florida near the ocean. I need to get rid of that thing soon, clear coat is going and anything on the bottom is fucked.

>>1519518
Shill

>>1519600
See >>1519669

Last time I had to take some little screws off to remove the splash guard in the wheel well, half of them sheared off with mild force from a 1/4” drive ratchet.

>>1519807
> avatarfagging

>>1519807
>Downside- they don’t have a spring and they don’t lock
I hate locks and springs, so upside for me! I really only care about being able to strip more wire sizes in one tool, and i haven't seen anything else other than those really shitty adjustable ones. Also non-chinese made even if Kleins aren't that good anymore. For crimping I've used cheap ratcheting/compound crimpers before and they work fine. Not going to bother dropping $100+ for name-brand version of those.

>>1513813
>you dummies this is what you use for plumbing

Had to get one that went to 4 inches to remove the heating pipes on my steam boiler. Used it to remove a seized hub unit on my car, that beastly fucker is my go to "I don't care if it gets bent in half, it's coming off now" appliance

>>1519805
You right about that. But the knipexthing is apples and oranges.
>>1519818
Rock on dude. Every good auto mechanic has the biggest and smallest pipe wrench available. The OP tool is good for some shit too. I'd buy some if I couldn't borrow them anytime I wanted to.

>>1519813
You people will complain about anything

>>1519814
Meh, if you can work em fine without springs, go for it. The one you posted is decent because it goes from like automotive wire size all the way down to electronic size, but I’m normally not using 10AWG and 28AWG in the same project so I don’t mind having two. Klein offers tons of different options for that “Kurve” stripper if you do want to be able to use it with one hand since it’s sprung, just find the right one. Pic related is for the little shit.

>>1519869
> BUT I NEED MAH IDENTITY SO EVERYONE KNOWS WHO I AAAAAAAAMMMMMMM
Pathetic.

>>1519869
Newport cigarettes, nigger detected

The best combination spanner

I love my Knipex™ adjustable wrench!
I used to bother wirh a variety of tools until I found my Knipex™
Oh man! The space that was wasted in my toolbox.
Whole drawer of metric wrenches. What a waste!
Two damn drawers of standard wrenches... Fuck that!
Yea I'm done with the whole 1/4", 3/8", 1/2" drive/socket Jew trick. Three more drawers rescued.
Don't even get me started on those waste of space normie adjustable wrenches, pliers, channel locks and pipe wrenches.
Not only that, but I could have saved so much money If I'd only known about the quality of Knipex™.
I've replaced all that nonsense with Knipex™.
You can too anon, just like me, you can discard all those pesky waste of space tools with Knipex™ - Who needs 'em!
Knipex™, because you don't need a bunch of crap when just Knipex™ will get-er-done!

>>1519878
>>1519886
>>1519888
Checked. I almost bought pic related like 5 different times. There’s one that is 8mm to maybe 12mm that would be perfect under the hood on my car since everything is 8 and 10 with a couple random 12s.

>>1519928
>>1519929
Hmmm...
1 minute

Ya know, I'm /out/ but the board has too much "which product should I use for my /out/ activities?"
You're from /out/ right?
Can't help but to notice that the tool shills picked up about the time you showed up

>>1519682
Lol, I'm OP dipshit.

>>1519928 Triggered

>>1519953
>Triggered
Ad-hom. Predictable

>>1519929
>>1519953
Where'd ya go bepShillFag?

eh?
>>1519944

>>1519944
You're prolly responding to one of the several anons who are now posting under his name because apparently thats how kids troll nowdays, but that is literally all the tripfag does here, shills tools that he has bought. By my count the guy has 14 cordless drills and enough chinesium in his shed to concurrently C check two 747's. The only project he has posted has been a toddler-tier MDF box with some LED's attached. He once posted some bullshit on his jeep but he butchered the job so badly that I don't think he's game to post /o/ shit because he knows those of us with actual /o/ chops will laugh his shit off the board and he doesn't want to sully "the good name" he's trying to make for himself here.

Is that how he rolls on /out/?

>>1519944
>58 seconds
Nice try

>>1519998
You give me more credit than I deserve

>>1519538
if you want to get into a dick measuring contest about who does and doesn't know a trade then go for it, i'll win.

t. mechanical fitter on plant machinery, generally quarrying, recycling, and power stations.

>>1519958
Lol ad hom????? I don't even know how you could possibly think that applies here. Go back to r e d d i t faggot. Fucking trash buzzwords.

I'm trying to lose some screws using some old, low quality, busted up torx screwdrivers. I'm getting absolutely no traction and I don't really have time to get new ones, what do?

>>1520106
Get new ones you fucking nigger

The fuck kinda question is that

>>1520112
It's the is-there-some-pseudo-magical-life-hack-to-solve-my-problem-so-I-don't-have-to-go-to-town-today kind of question.

>>1520116
You can try sticking a rubber band in there but I have yet for this method to actually work. Other wise try to grab the head of a screw with some pliers, idk.

>>1520090
Do you even measure to the 8th of an inch?

This is all you need in the field. I rebuilt an entire S550'S engine using this single high quality socket.

>>1520202
No, I'm not retarded so I use the metric system, like most normal folk.

>>1520216
>, like most normal folk.

Sounds about right
Being able to count with your fingers and toes is much more important than an actual intuitive and useful system!

>>1520216
He got me there!

>>1520219
>muh measuring system is based on the human body
Metric is intuitive for people that have used it all their life, you stupid gump.

>>1520221
>he doesn't know NASA decided to use metric since 1990 as it makes more sense
Whew

>>1520219
>>1520222
No reason for this racism dudes. There are benefits to either sys. A "tradesman" should have no problem either way.

>>1520090
Not the A hole dude here. Do metric people not learn about fractions anymore? Just a question. Im sure you are smart enough to divide one by two until you get to sixty four.

Im just bored and off work for a while.

Speaking of NASA: ?you?.. have you heard about the problems with US missile targeting in the early 90's? A contributing factor was converting to metric. Repeating decimals and rounding start making a difference when you're trying to shoot something going fast out of the air. Probably not a problem if equipment was metric to begin with. The quick solution was to unplug shit when not in use so the math rounding would not get too crazy.
Maybe that's why NASA had a rough spell too.

>>1520223
Freedom units got them there in 1969 anon. Oops

>>1520234
>Probably not a problem if equipment was metric to begin with
Not that Anon but yes. The only problems are when converting from one system to another
>Do metric people not learn about fractions anymore?
Yes, we have to work out ratios and probabilities, the same as anyone.

>>1520241
Those "freedom units" you stole off the English? Hahaha

>>1520244
Stole? More like liberated!

>>1520106
>I don't really have time to get new ones, what do?
grind a bit off the end so it will 'square up' the damaged part

>>1520106
hammer in a size bigger torx bit
this also works for busted hex bolts
be sure to not use a torx bit with center hole as these bust

>>1520208
I always wanted to grab one of these for shits and giggles. Maybe it would work for the wing nuts on my hurricane shutters but it would be a pain ih the ass on an impact driver if it diesn’t center. And maybe it would grab some fucked up hex heads but would never hold up to much torque.

>>1520353
>one of these
You need two. One for emergency backup when you destroy the first one.

Impact? No, no no!

>>1520208
No way in hell you can get in all the crevices with that giant ass thing

>>1520558
>that giant ass thing
[australian]You call that a giant ass thing?[/australian]

>>1520522
Impact driver, no impact wrench. It would be fun too see the pins go flying if I grabbed the 1/2” drive big guy.

>>1513447
I only got cobras, which size should get as my first none tooth plier from knippex?

>>1520106
take pic related, take the pen part out put the the clear part to a flame, and then put it on the screw.

>>1520616

Depends on the nature of your work. I like the 10inch ones

>>1513630
>Fluke. Very nice.
cheap fluke, not very nice

>>1520353
They make wingnut drivers that have a 1/4" shank duder

>>1513930
>>1513932
They have a ratcheting action. Applying pressure to either handle makes the jaws clamp down until they are stopped by a surface or your adjustment. Releasing pressure on the handle allows the jaws to open. There are lots of videos out there, but this one shows it pretty well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zyMu9S0gF8
Short answer, no, they don't open as you're turning.

>>1520616
I find the 7inch one to be really handy when bolting something down to a plate or a table, where you need to just hold the nut at the bottom and torque it from the top.
The 10" ones are more hefty and versatile, but I dont use them as often at all.

>>1520931
I know, but I have never seen them on TV

>>1521018
>7inch one
>>1521018
>10" ones
If I have a choice, I always go for the 10" ones.
But I'm a gril so what do I know...

>>1513460
This guy knows. Pliers of any sort, are almost always the wrong tool.

>im in a shill thread
wew

>im in a shill thread
wew

>>1521262
This is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. There is hundreds of thousands of legitimate uses for pliers