/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1637206

it's the best

>>1637206
Stahlwille tools are made for aerospace engineering, I think even the Australian Airforce strictly recommends them.
From what I know Snap-On is literal piss compared, but I'm sure the bling bling chrome plating will convince you otherwise.

>>1637215
>Australian Airforce
Who?

t. Finnish Air Force (who is more capable than Australia's)

>>1637219
They have 2.5x more aircrafts and 5x the personnel than you north mollusks have.

>>1637221
Most of the Foster's Air Force combat aircraft are not flight worthy. Their Hornets are junked.

Got to know a couple of guys working for Stahlwille when I used to live in Wuppertal. They took their jobs and products seriously.
Never used one though so my opinion is mostly bias.

>>1637248
>They took their jobs and products seriously.

When you can charge 5x what your product is worth and get away with it, you should take your scam seriously. They make Apple look like good guys.

Their tools are beautiful, well designed, and well made. But there is nothing magical about them that makes them turn nuts and bolts better than most other decent tools.

>>1637252
Their sockets are cold forged instead of drop forged, there is a difference.

>>1637422
>Their sockets are cold forged instead of drop forged, there is a difference.

no difference that matters, unless you're talking about huge bulldozer bolt sockets, and even then it's probably still bullshit. and for non-impact sockets, that's a total waste of effort. And as for impact sockets, I'm not aware of the ones sold for non-exorbitant prices failing.

If you want to pay for the name, go for it. But you don't get a better wrench.

>>1637206
Are you a burger? I’m sure they’re really nice, but you will be paying a premium for German made stuff. If you want “better than Husky” without feeling like you got raped by the Snap On guy’s huge black dildo, go with one of the US industrial brands. SK makes real nice wrenches. Wright Tool makes beautiful stuff as well. Snap On has an aviation sector too, but we all know you want something more than typical grease monkey stuff (even though honestly Snappy wrenches and sockets are at the top).

There was an aviation company I heard about once with stupid stupid expensive tools, but I can’t remember the name of it. They were US made. It could’ve been Armstrong but they’re dead now. And then there’s companies like Beta with their clean room tools, they are made not to rust or flake so nothing gets contaminated, the pricing on those is pretty stupid as well.

But if you want the German ones, it’s like $300 for some top American brands or $400 for top Yuro, get what you want.

>>1637206
Good stuff anon.
Lots of Euro auto manufacture special tools are made by them.

>>1637206
It's placebo because there's not a big advertising campaign for them like with your chinesium "Made in America" tools? Kill yourself.

Anybody know where to get bsa sets in north America without breaking the bank?

>>1637215
The boomerang society isn't an "airforce"

>>1637206
Stahlwille will last you Forever! No Jocke! Im Work with 40-50 Year old stahlwille sockets and wrenches nearly Every day ! They are much better than Holex för example! !

>>1638973
Kek. You obviously haven’t seen what a true Aussie cunt can do with one

Stay poor, mutt.

Stahlwille wrenches have worse finish than my 3€/piece toptul wrenches and apparently they don't hold up to torque any better either. Nice stuff, made in Germany is cool but not worth the insane prices IMO. And before you give me the "when your living depends on it it's worth the price" boomer lecture, that's just bullshit. You can get 5 toptul sets at least for the price of one Stahlwille set and they definitely don't last 5 times longer.

I've also used some of their older ratchets (like from the 80s) and they sucked. That was probably just the age though.

Used to work on helicopters and small planes. Some of my co workers used HF tools. Majority of hardware on aircraft are nicer than a regular car getting raped by impacts all day.

Stahlwille is very good, but if your job does not require the very best, of if your boss pays your tools, then Stahlwille is over the top concerning normal open or box wrenches.
They do make extremely nice torque wrenches (Manoskop, pic related is my stash). They can be adjusted extremely quick with a slide inside them and they do not need to be reset for storage.
They also have a very nice line of fine serrated ratchets, for example the type " 512QR N". I have it, and it is indeed very smooth. They have a patent on a novel internal mechanism that makes it stronger than other ratchets as well:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150053051A1/en

Apart from that, I use "WGB" tools a lot. They are not just great for the money, but actually great. I wrench on my car a lot and their ratchet tool boxes have not let me down. I recommend that stuff.

>>1639431
How much do they charge calibration for the wrenches?

>>1639468
>(((calibrates wrench)))
>issues calibration ceritificate
that will be 1400 dollars plus tip

>>1639481
>plus tip

>>1638999
Why do australian women yell Oi oi oi when you bang them?

>>1639468
I don't know, I never had to. I check the wrenches myself with a luggage scale. I attach it to the handle, measure the leverage and force, and calculate the resulting torque the wrench should click at. So far my wrenches have all been accurate (enough for me). This leaves the question of the calibration of the luggage scale of course, but somewhere there has to be a limit. If I wanted, there are two little grub screws I could calibrate the wrenches with.
What I did though is to take them apart, clean the mechanism and relubricate with Moly grease, but just because I am autistic. But it is nice to know that they are completely self-serviceable should the need arise. I like being independent.

>>1639822
These are pretty expensive tools, I personally would at least check how accurate they are at least, properly. then later decide if calibration is needed for your needs.

>>1637206

>buys toolbox full of top end tools
>go-to pliers are the linesmans

>>1639431
Nice. Did you test out their digital wrenches?

>>1639830
Yes, I did exactly this with the luggage scale method. I found them to be within the specs of the manufacturer, which is 4% or so, provided the luggage scale does not lie.
>>1639869
Nope, a set of those would probably cost more than the €1000 car I am wrenching on, and I just checked that there are 0 offers on the german equivalent of Craigslist. The ones in my initial image can be bought for <€150 each there, what I did.
Pic related is the aforementioned WGB tool set I use for a quick job when I don't feel to heft my "real" toolbox outside.

>>1640600
>the german equivalent of Craigslist
Ebay Kleinanzeigen?

>>1637422
I’m no metallurgical go-to, but cold-forging don’t sound like no good idea.
How can ya cold forge som’n? Forgin’s inherently hot!

>>1640966

>>1637206
>skips 15, 16, 18, 20, 21
This set is fucking useless

>>1641006

Now that you mention it. The only time.I have ever used any of those is for the 15mm drain bolt on my Suzuki.

>>1641062
After the new Norm you Need an 17mm and 16mm for M10 bolts and Mothers and for M12 bolts and mothers you Need 19mm and 18mm.

I know a guy who still uses their 30 year old ratchet

>>1641122

>bolts and mothers

>>1641151
>thread about stahlwille
>hilarious german broken english all over the gewinde

>>1641132
I used a 103 year old wrench today. IDK what brand it was because the branding has literally eroded off. Still got the job done.

>>1641132
That’s not even that old when it comes to hand tools, late 80s or early 90s? I have an old Indestro USA 1/2” ratchet that must be at least that old and it’s still going strong. It’s my ratchet of choice when I really want to lean on something and can’t use the 25” breaker bar for whatever reason.

>>1637206
Why do they have the same logo as Silverline?
Why do you buy name brand spanners? It's a fucking hunk of metal.

>>1640810
Yes exactly. Only got scammed there once, but not when buying tools.
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-stahlwille-manoskop/k0

>>1641630
Even though I’m straight with my Craftsman and Husky and the cheap ass Pittsburgh wrenches will work for 98% of people, there is a difference when people use them daily to make their living.

The biggest argument against China or even decent Taiwan tools compared to American or Yuro made tools is quality control. The slants don’t care so much if a bad batch makes it out the door because Pitt doesn’t have much of a reputation to uphold besides “cheap”. This can fuck you over when the tool breaks in the middle of an important job and you can’t finish the job without a replacement and/or you damage a fastener or other part when the tool slips.

The other part is design and tolerances, especially when you get to shit like crowsfoot flare nut wrenches than need to be small enough to get in a tight spot but strong enough to remove tight lines without deforming. Even non-fanbois will tell you that Snappy wrenches grip fasteners better, especially nuts that have corroded a little bit over time or got messed with by Juan and his SAE wrench set on metric fasteners. The last thing you need is to make the nut more circular with a wrench that is oversized by a millimeter.

>>1637206
>Shit's way more expensive than Snap-On
then you are overpaying the 13/9 set you posted is available from 50€
I'll doubt that snap-on is noticeably cheaper

>>1641508

What about Hazet homies?

>>1643077
Taiwan/Chinkshit, my Stahlwille rep said so.

>>1643103
Hazet is still good, Gedore is now chinkshit.

>>1637206
I have only ever seen Stahlwille tools in 1 place, and that was a private hangar at a private airport that housed a private Learjet, and even then the Stahlwille stuff was in a locked cage in the tool bench maintenance corner of the hangar.

More security on the tools than the fucking multi-million dollar jet.

Stahlwillie is about as good as Pittsburg IMO.

I have almost every brand you could ever want, Pitts, Proto, Snap on, Stahlwillie, Williams, Bonney, Industro (Older made in USA), Craftsman, Craftsman pro, No name Chinese, No name Taiwanese, No name Japanese. And finally no makers mark at all and some times no size mark.

The Stahlwillie ranks with the no name Taiwanese. I cut them up or heat and bend them to make wrenches I need. They sit in a junk drawer of scrap wrenches.

This top three for anyone that wants to know is: Williams, Proto, Pittsburg

When I made this thread I wasn't specifically talking about wrenches but about the whole overpriced product stack