/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1709807
This is not the most appropriate place to be asking. Try yahoo answers.

>>1709808
How was anything in this post asking a question?
I already took the whole thing apart, I just want people to show shit that is poorly engineered that they have run into while doing their own diy shit.

Well, judging by their tractors, you can't expect much for Jonh Deere.

>>1709814
I don't really know what I expected, I know cub is owned by MTD, and I haven't exactly heard great things about MTD, so I expected it to be at least as decent as the Cub.
I am not delusional enough to think that these companies that acquire the names of once famous machinery manufactures to do anything besides exploit brand recognition, but riveting on an assembly that is probably the most likely failure point of any sort of consumer grade gas powered outdoor machinery was even for me a bit of a shock.

>>1709813
it appears you don't understand "engineering" while a bit over-engineered the Germans would consider that engine under-engineered. it's not exactly shitty engineering. shitty engineering would be... a yugo.

>>1709826
Rivets are cheaper and I assume, like other companies, they don't expect the owner to do their own repairs.
And if you decide to replace the starter, since it's a John Deere mower, you are going to pay John Deere prices.

I have run into this situation with other brands and have found I could get, in my case the metal shroud, drill out the rivets and replace them with screws.
However, being JD, it may only be available as the combined unit.

>>1709893
Of course they are cheaper from a manufacturing standpoint, but given the name, I would've thought they would have pretended just the slightest to care about serviceability, on a lower end machine I understand.
Given the size and complexity of the large sheet metal houseing as well as the holes they had to drill and tap on the engine itself to mount it, compared to the cub, where it just has 3 studs coming out with no extra pieces, it seems foolish to me.
Then again I am not a bean counter engineering products to fail in a way best to encourage the customer to purchase a new product.

>>1709903
I feel like JD is becoming the Apple of lawn mowers.

>>1709945
Given from what limited things I have heard in regard to their modern, mainline farming equipment when it comes to non authorized repair, that sounds like it is applicable to the entire company.

>>1709903
Tbh push lawnmowers should be unserviceable. It's the most polluting thing you can own because noone gives a fuck. I'm glad their making them disposable. Quite frankly should be banned. Noone respects them.
>>1709945
Repeat business. The stihl repair/sales guy here has a push mechanical mower. Refuses to have a gas or electric one. We should really go back to these simpler times.

>shitty engineering
Bro you wouldn't know the definition of shitty engineering if it fucked you in the ass. That unit did what it was meant to do. Be disposable and get em to buy another. And I bet it cut grass just fine until it was abused into death. Betcha 5 bux you clean the machine it'll run just fine. That is not shitty engineering, nor is planned obscelence.

>>1709967
>Tbh push lawnmowers should be unserviceable. It's the most polluting thing you can own because noone gives a fuck.

Push mowers cause pollution, so we better make them disposable, so not only do they cause pollution when initially manufactured, then used, then get to be dumped in the trash so someone can buy another one that causes pollution to be manufactured, genius.

>>1709971
Every manufacturing process causes pollution, genius. Lawnmowers are the least cared for ICE and noone cares about their emissions. As such they are the worst, cc per cc.
>no egr
>no catalytic
>not even a fucking throttle on many
>carbed
>low compression

Literally the worst tool you can own besides your car.

>>1709945
They're at the forefront of fucking consumers. Look up the hacker collectives breaking their code for farmers.

>>1709976
So what? You burn a maximum of about 2 gallons of gas in it a season.

The pollution is completely negligible

Not really sure why OP is shitting on john deere when this is a briggs and stratton engine.
Or why hes too much of a pussy to just pull the thing when the recoil looks to still be in working condition.

>>1710046
This. ICE efficiency should correlate with total fuel expenditure. Get some goats if you're an emissions nautizistic fag.

>>1710134
>ICE efficiency should correlate with total fuel expenditure

Not gonna lie, it's kind of stupid that the super light econoboxes and Smart Cars are subject to the same emissions regulations that my 7000lb pickup is. For the same distance (in the city; highway is decent), my truck will dump anywhere from 2-3x the pollutants as a smaller car simply due to the difference in mass.

Rear axle bearings on my f150 don't use an inner race, the axle rides directly on the rollers.
Seems kind of hokey, is this a cost-saving measure?

>>1709893
>However, being JD,

Its Briggs & Stratton.

>>1709963
>I'm a complete fucking moron: the post.

>>1710012
>Yeah! So when farmers fuck up their shit trying to make a mod then attempt to warranty it after the fact, we'll bitch and moan when the warranty isn't honored! It's a win-win! We can bitch no matter what!

bricks and scrap iron made in china garbage
even honda has started to make their shite in china
look for an old honda that has MADE IN JAPAN written on it
only way you're gonna get some quality products
bricks and scrap iron is just trash. find a problem, hack around it, and resell as fast as possible to the next retard who forgets to change the oil.
then you buy it back for 10% the cost, put a pipe around the blade and wrench it free. new oil, sell again. rinse and repeat. lmao.

Whoever designed the second gen chrysler concorde is a complete spedtard. I have to take off the whole fucking bumper assembly to change a headlight and I have to take off the front-right wheel to change the battery.

>>1710704
>american car manufacture owned by a germoid company
Can't imagine why something coming out of that would be sub optimal for the end user.

>>1710046
If only one in 100 people own a gas burning lawn mower thats 140million gallons of gas

>>1710136
It's intentional, they want to incentivise people to get smaller cars

>>1710704
>you'd think people would have learned after the 1st gen to stay away from concordes

>>1710844
Anon finds out there's lots of people in the world, more news at 11.

>>1709807
>>1709868
you both are fools. It is engineered excellently... from a business and service contract pov. The engineers did their job in making it a fucking pain to service and replace so that JD could make bank off of having to service it. Even if they don't directly service it, the 3rd parties that do have to buy special tools, parts, fluids, etc... from the company so there's yet another revenue stream

were you born yesterday?

>>1709976

>>1709976
check out dis nigga he's never heard of bunker fuel.

>>1709814
John Deere had one goal in mind when creating his tractors and he was wildly successful at it.

That's what every Briggs and Stratton mower engine looks like you fucking sperg lord. Get the spaghetti out of your pockets and stop pretending you know what you're talking about. What the fuck would you even do with the cylinders anyway? Replace the carb float or flywheel key and it'll be fixed

>>1709807
Why has nobody asked what driving angrily means?

>>1715238
He had a beaver on his lap

>>1710844
>If only one in 100 people own a gas burning lawn mower thats 140million gallons of gas

Speaking of gas...there is a gas chamber with your name on it Moshe.

>>1709807
it takes 19 hours to change the timing chain on a chevy colorado and you need to take a BUNCH of shit off to do it

>>1715500
The Mercedes ml350 has a 20 dollar set of oil rings that need replacing every 120000km and takes 3 days to get at. What's your point? It's not OPS poor fag mower.

>>1709807
buy a Predator engine for $98

>>1715500
>timing chain replacement is an involved process
No shit

>>1709807
Give ot back Jamal

>>1710722
Those Chryslers were 100% amerimongrel designed and engineered. Enjoy your modern Fiats.

>>1710844

>140 million gallons of gas

Congrats, you burned as much gas as the US does in one rush hour.

>>1709813
Maybe reddit is more your speed, try going the fuck back.