Red vs. Yellow

[Anonymous No.1415863]

Which do you like better?

[Anonymous No.1415868]

>>1415863
Currently in the process of replacing all my yellow with red.

That should answer your question.

[Anonymous No.1415872]

[Anonymous No.1415876]

orange is all you really need

[Anonymous No.1415878]

>>1415876
>orange

[Anonymous No.1415881]

really isn't much different. if you already have batteries for one then stick with it.

[Anonymous No.1415904]

>>1415863
Red.

[Anonymous No.1415923]

>>1415878
>literally yellow green made by red.

kys

the only options are teal and german orange

[Anonymous No.1415993]

Hey guys! Am I invited?

[Anonymous No.1415996]

Yeah I've heard good things about Mikita. If you autistc about tools like me and watch lag bolt shootouts on YouTube and shit makitas are always overlooked for some strange reason

[Anonymous No.1416000]

>>1415993
no, fuck off nip

[Anonymous No.1416004]

>>1416000
>no, fuck off nip
B-but our stuff is make in china too like yours!

[Anonymous No.1416056]

>>1415863
Neither

[Anonymous No.1416067]

>>1415863

Blue, like a real man...

[Anonymous No.1416068]

How good are them oil impact drivers?

[Anonymous No.1416072]

>>1415996
Out of all the drivers ive use, i feel like makitas give me the most control

[Anonymous No.1416113]

Unironically yellow

[Anonymous No.1416125]

Blue team

[Anonymous No.1416126]

>>1416125

[Anonymous No.1416357]

Red for cordless tools

Mastercrap for corded

[Anonymous No.1416430]

>>1416357
Yellow cordless
Red cord

[Anonymous No.1416438]

>>1415863
Green. If budget was no concern I'd probably use Makita but for my needs/wants Ryobi is plenty and affordable.

[Anonymous No.1416446]

>>1416125
>>1416126
you took faggotry to a whole new level

[Anonymous No.1416449]

I have to admit. As someone who has never owned a power drill. I like the look of the lime green Ryobi. I watch a series on YouTube, a guy whom I respect who scraps e-waste, and his is a Ryobi. I've been thinking of getting a P1811 One+ when I have the money.

Thoughts? Are there major differences between drills? Is there an objectively best drill?

[Anonymous No.1416455]

>>1415863
Does it work? I have a mix of everything in my box.

[Anonymous No.1416456]

>>1415863
the Makita BL

[Anonymous No.1416460]

I have Milwaukee tools for work and Dewalt's XR brush less shit at home.They're both great and you're good with either one. I feel like the Dewalts stuff runs a little better and has more torque but they are newer brush less tools and my Milwaukee stuff is 3 years old now and has brushed motors. It's hard to choose one over the other they're both great tools. I would probably go with Milwaukee though just based on longevity. I've used the hell out of these tools pretty heavy for 3 years and they've never missed a beat. Been dropped and gotten soaking wet countless times. Plus Milwaukee has a lot of neat tools no one else makes you may find yourself wanting. Pic related is my Milwaukee junk.

[Anonymous No.1416478]

>>1416449
The drill is decent but every Ryobi battery I’ve owned would stop holding a charge after a year or so.

[Anonymous No.1416488]

>>1416478
I've always been a mad ryobi shit talker after owning a shit drill from them 10 years ago. I finally decided to give them a chance when I wanted a battery powered lawn mower. I bought it and went to charge it and the battery was DOA. Packed that faggot up and returned. It's fuck Ryobi for 10 more years.

[Anonymous No.1416492]

>>1415863
Teal, or blue-teal.

[Beppy !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1416500]

>>1416125
>>1416126
Supposedly these are made well and are basically DeWalt clones. But then you look at the price...

They are close to the same price as DeWalt and Milwaukee tools and when they go on sale it’s like $99 instead of $109. You can get the real brands on sale for cheaper, especially if you buy a kit. Plus you only get the 90 day warranty which fucking sucks on a $100+ drill. Main upside might be that the Hercules batteries are cheaper, but the current lineup of tools is so small that you wouldn’t want to invest in a bunch of batteries anyway.

The one Hercules product that looks like it could be worth the money is their miter saw. Retails for $399, goes on sale for closer to $350 a bit. It has really good reviews and a similar DeWalt is like $700. Even with the extended warranty, it’s way cheaper than the DeWalt.

>>1416449
Can’t beat the prices on the sets if you catch a good sale at Home Depot.

>>1416460
Wut is the tool on the bottom left and the one on the upper right? Their lineup is pretty crazy but DeWalt has a ton of tools beyond typical stuff too.

[Anonymous No.1416516]

>>1416068
a little less powerful but quieter

[Anonymous No.1416522]

>>1416500
Bottom left is PVC cutters and upper right is a PEX expander

[Beppy !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1416527]

>>1416522
Ahh I see. What diameter PVC are you cutting with that thing? I’m used to the handheld ratcheting deal cutting sprinkler lines but that looks beefy.

And a quick google, it’s cool those are both relatively affordable because some of their specialty tools are expensive as fuck.

I still maintain they should make one of those hydraulic ram tools with heads you can swap out. DeWalt and Milwaukee have tons of them for cutting and expanding pipes and whatnot and some look like the exact same tool body aside from a couple parts. Many are the expensive tools too. But there’s not as much money to be made if they can’t sell you each tool.

[Anonymous No.1416667]

am actually in the market for a drill. Dont need it for anything fancy, just some simple things around the house (dont have a drill yet). Is there a preferred brand or specific drill that you guys recommend? Not looking to spend a ton of money

[Anonymous No.1416670]

>>1416667
Do you plan on getting other cordless shit in the future?

[Anonymous No.1416672]

>>1416670
dont have much in the wall of tools, so its possible. would definitely prefer cordless

[Beppy !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1416688]

>>1416667
>>1416672
You in the US? Sounds like you want to go Ryobi, Porter Cable, or Black & Decker.

Ryobi and Porter Cable are good if you’re a handy homeowner and want a few different tools in the line. Wait for the sales on those brands from Home Depot and Lowe’s and you can get 4 or 5 tool sets with a couple batteries for around $200.

If you want to go really cheap because you might only drive a dozen screws a year, there’s a ton of Black & Decker options at Walmart. But B&D does also have the 20V line if you want to keep it inexpensive and possibly get a sawzall and other shit in the future that uses the same batteries.

[Anonymous No.1416689]

>>1416449
Don’t ever come on a construction site with that garbage

[Anonymous No.1416701]

>>1416689

I like the ryobi line myself but they’re not professional tools. But I’ve seen some tradespeople using them.

They’re basically tools you might use a few times a month

[Beppy !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1416704]

>>1416689
Gotta show up to the jobsite with professional™ tools

[Anonymous No.1416716]

>>1416704
How about the brushless dewalt

[Anonymous No.1416717]

>>1416704
And which one is likely to actually last?

[Beppy !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1416737]

>>1416716
Funny thing is that model DeWalt is the US made model. But you can get the DeWalt China made brushless model from HD right now for $99 with TWO batteries plus a 3 year warranty over HF’s shitty 90 day warranty, so I have no fucking clue why you would ever buy those Hercules tools. Which is what I posted here >>1416500

I’m guessing they will expand their line, but for now that shit isn’t even worth the money aside from the cheaper batteries. I think HF’s Bauer line is a much better value than those Hercules tools.


>>1416717
Honestly the Hercules tools seem to be built just about as well as the DeWalts or Milwaukees if you look at the reviews. But when the Hercules shits out after 6mos, you’re fucked if you didn’t buy the extended warranty. The DeWalt, you can try to warranty that thing for another 30 months.

[Anonymous No.1416792]

>>1416689
But why? What's wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.1416823]

You may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like.

[Anonymous No.1416828]

>>1416823

hilti isnt peak performance its peak aesthetic

[Anonymous No.1416830]

>>1415863
Yellow

[Anonymous No.1416950]

>>1416527
Cuts up to 2 inch. I do a lot of 2 inch schedule 80 pvc stuff and they're amazing. I good pair of ratcheting manual cutters are around $70-$100 so $130 for the Milwaukee ones was not a bad deal at all imo.

[Anonymous No.1416958]

36 year old boomer here.
I've never owned a battery powered power tool.
If I need a drill, which one should I buy?

[Anonymous No.1417039]

>>1416068
£300 in europe and the uk
$175 in the states
will makita uk fix if i import from the states? ;_;

there is one difference that i know about between the models
you can just push the bit in in the usa model
in the europe/uk model you have to pull the sleeve forward before inserting the bit

[Anonymous No.1417050]

>>1416958
Ryobi is fine for home use

[Anonymous No.1417051]

>>1416828
Hilti and festool have the aesthetics of dog shit

[Anonymous No.1417060]

>>1417039

>there is one difference that i know about between the models
>you can just push the bit in in the usa model
>in the europe/uk model you have to pull the sleeve forward before inserting the bit

That really doesn't matter.

What you do is you get the cheapest kit you can that gives you the charger. Then get your cousin who is going to the states to bring you back a bunch of tools on the same platform and it is really all the same shit. Both 110v and 220v chargers charge the batteries the same way.

[Anonymous No.1417064]

>>1417050

I use lime green Ryobi professionally.

My problems with them are the chuck wobble on their drills and spindle wobble on the grinders.

Outside of that I could be using anything else and it is comparable.

[Anonymous No.1417086]

>using anything other than HF
Lmfao, making up for those tiny dicks, huh?

[Anonymous No.1417114]

>>1417086
what are you even talking about

[Anonymous No.1417119]

>>1417114
If you use anything other than Harbor Freight power tools then you are trying to compensate for your tiny pen0r

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.1417122]

>>1416792
Because it’s weekend warrior tier and even though it will work just as well, they won’t let you join in on their pissing contests without a DeWalt.

[Anonymous No.1417140]

I have been looking for some new tools and I thought I had made up my mind before I read this thread. To be fair on my part, I haven't actually read about tools I just looked at what is available on amazon and read the reviews.

I was thinking about Makita. Can I expect similar performance from Milwaukee tools? The reviews tipped me in favor of Makita. I didn't look at DeWalt because I'm shallow and price=quality. I know that's not true, but I want good tools. I have cheap ass blue Ryobi stuff now and they are driving me crazy. I don't know if the batteries are just giving out or if the tools have no power. My saw only gets a few good cuts through 2x4's and my drill has like 1lb of torque. It's embarrassing looking at screws that are sticking halfway out of some wood because the drill won't get it any deeper.

[Anonymous No.1417142]

>>1417140
>screws that are sticking halfway out of some wood because the drill won't get it any deeper.
get an impact driver

[Anonymous No.1417150]

>>1417142
I actually do have one that I've never used. I hate my neighbors, I should go try it out.

[Anonymous No.1417164]

>>1417140
>>1417142
>It's embarrassing looking at screws that are sticking halfway out of some wood because the drill won't get it any deeper.
predrill and properly countersink your holes you fucking retards

[Anonymous No.1417168]

>>1417164
I didn't know you had to do that.

[Anonymous No.1417176]

>>1417164
no u

[Anonymous No.1417188]

>>1415863

red, but they are the same thing really

[Anonymous No.1417192]

>>1416449
if you cant crank it you have no need for a Ree-Obi, and if you're fo real, no there is absolute no difference between a RYoby, Dewlat, Milwaukee Hilti Bosch etc. you will only notice difference in them at like 100 hours of use, go ahead pick a color

[Anonymous No.1417199]

>>1417192
Ok cheers.

[Anonymous No.1417263]

>>1416449
Either don't pay retail for that one or consider splurging a little and get the P1813 for the extra $30. Twice as powerful and it's got the 4.0ah battery which are generally considered fairly high quality while the starter/compact ones (1.3, 1.5ah) have gotten some shit for having overprotective undervolt protection that causes them to "run out of juice" sooner than they should even for their already low specs. Definitely aim for at least a 2.0ah pack, and keep an eye out for the deals they're always running on these things; you just missed one that combo'd a bare tool, two of the new 3.0ah midcapacity batteries, charger, and carry bag for $100 but seems like there's always a new combo or promo around the corner.


>>1417140
>old blue ryobi
>presumably running on ancient ni-cd packs

NiCd batteries inhale cum straight from the source and always have, and are probably just fucked from use/cycling/age. It happens regardless of brand, it's just a shortcoming of the chemistry. The tools themselves are probably fine, if a bit behind the performance curve compared to newer tools, and could probably be revived by just using a newer battery pack. If you'd be willing to use Ryobi again in their newer lines (green) as a fallback plan then good news: pick up literally any 18v pack for the OnePlus line and it'll work in both the new tools and the old 18v tools since they haven't changed their 18v battery shape/connector for the last 20 years or so, just the chemistry and cells. Don't pay Home Despot retail price on the fucking batteries though whatever you do unless you really think it's worth paying 100cuckbux for something like a 4.0ah battery that can reliably be found elsewhere online for under $50.

Makita's nice but more expensive. Their new black lineup apparently has a few cut corners so do some research or stick to their blue stuff if you go that route.

[Anonymous No.1417430]

>>1417122
what specifically makes them inferior

[Anonymous No.1417435]

>>1417263
>makita black lineup cut a few corners
I thought their new black lineup was their new subcompact range on their 18v platform.
Lighter tools for less demanding work, but still considered premium as they're brushless. Distinguishing them from the cheaper brushed options?

[Beppy !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1417455]

>>1417430
Idk, see if you can find teardowns on Youtube. Better quality materials in certain spots. Ryobi might use a heavy plastic on a certain spot that will last 5 years of moderate use while Milwaukee used metal for that part because it needs to last 5 years of heavy use. Little less torque on the motors than a brushless DeWalt or Makita.

It’s the same with anything. It does get to a point of diminishing returns. And with tools, I always say the difference is that while even cheap tools will get the job done fine, the more expensive tools are made to handle more abuse. The Milwaukee will probably handle a lot more knocks and falls than the Ryobi because one will be hanging from a work bench in some guys garage while another will be thrown around in a tool bag daily, and the manufacturers design and build the tools with these expectations.

[Anonymous No.1417485]

>>1416500

Not that poster but the bottom left is the m12 pvc pipe cutter and the other is the m12 pex expansion tool.

I only own the pvc cutter and it's awesome for rough-in plumbing. Not a fan of the pex expansion system. I prefer crimp rings

[Anonymous No.1417486]

>>1417455
>why do you feel this way
>"Idk"
>"inane comments showing it was a statement of ignorance"

Never change, the court jester is an important role

[Anonymous No.1417489]

>>1417192
My nigga, hand drills for small jobs are great, but in tight places or for drilling a lot of holes away from the drill press is where you "need" a power drill if you are a bitch and done use a corded wrist breaker.

[Anonymous No.1417580]

>>1417486
>muh based ryobi
fuck off shills

[Anonymous No.1417599]

>>1417580
Does cheap need shills?

[Anonymous No.1417604]

>>1416449
The guys who came to do an energy audit on my house had Ryobi. I have them too, the sales are hard to beat. Battery tools have a good deal of power now, and my only complaint is that the drill has a bit of chuck wobble.

[Anonymous No.1417611]

>>1417050
Thanks. Prices on Amazon look good also.

[Beppy !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1417629]

>>1417611
Are you just buying the single drill? Home Depot just had their “Ryobi Days” with all sorts of great deals on sets. You can get 4-5 tools and a couple batteries for like $200.

>>1417486
Gay

[Anonymous No.1417700]

>>1417629
Yeah I just need a drill to hang a 50" tv. I don't really need it yet. Got to move out first.

[Anonymous No.1417803]

>>1417629
>tripfagging in some random thread with no real importance
Fuck off, idiot.

[Facebool !bdXQReAP5. No.1417811]

>>1417629
Ryobi Days sounds cool. Thanks for the tip.

[Anonymous No.1417828]

...What about Black+Decker?
I'm not a professional, but I do need a few tools for basic home maintenance after I move into my new home in a few months. B+D is p cheap and seems to have a nice range of basic tools.

[Anonymous No.1417859]

>>1417828
>What about Black+Decker?
No, just no.

[Anonymous No.1417860]

>>1417828
There is absolutley no reason to buy B+D when Ryobi exists. At least you know Ryobis battery line is going to exist for a very long time.
The walmart special you get from B+D not so much.

[Anonymous No.1417868]

>>1415868
Second.

Actually I never bought DeWalt in the first place, I've seen too many explode, break, heat up red hot and stop working, or, otherwise rendered paperweight,

[Anonymous No.1417884]

>>1417860
No Ryobi here in Holland though.

https://www.gamma.nl/assortiment/blackdecker-accuschroefmachine-bdc718as2o-qw-18-volt-80-delige-accessoireset/p/B593636
Was thinking of getting this, but your and >>1417859 's reaction makes me reconsider.

Wasn't B+D a good and reputable brand?

[Anonymous No.1417886]

>>1417884
>Wasn't B+D a good and reputable brand?

Its part of a long list of old brand names that have been bought out and relegated to making low end tools.
They are going to be ok for basic home maintenance, exactly the market they are going for. It just doesnt cost much more in USD to get other drills that have a strong track record like the ryobi. B+D bring out new models all the time, its literally the brand of drill you get at walmart.

IMO youd be better off with a cheap corded drill as your first drill for light maintenance. They are cheaper, stronger (dollar for dollar), and you never have to worry about battery garbage.

[Anonymous No.1417889]

>>1417884
Buy this and be done with it. Its 100 monopoly money cheaper and 10 times the quality.
https://www.gamma.nl/assortiment/makita-hp1631-klopboormachine/p/B329883

[Anonymous No.1417893]

>>1417886
Shit, that's depressing.
Corded drills aren't really sold here anymore, however. There's these super cheap €30 powerline tools though.

>>1417889
Is that suitable for putting together shelves, and general maintenance? Was also looking at a Bosch PSR1800 for 140€.

[Anonymous No.1417895]

>>1417893
It's perfect for shelves and home maintenance, and it'll last you 20+years.
Itll do everything the 2cordless drills you are looking at, as well or probably even better.
You'll be buying new batteries that cost 75% of the original price in 3-5 years. There is a reason that companies are pushing cordless, and it's not because of convenience.

[Beppy !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1417944]

>>1417803
>putting in the effort to delete the trip and then type it in again at a later time just to satisfy some random neckbeard
Too lazy for that.

>>1417884
Pic related is an older B&D I have that doesn’t seem like a toy. Was at Lowe’s yesterday and they had a B&D display with a cardboard cutout and it showed some stay at home mom using one of their drills. I guess that’s their target audience.

[Oleksandr "Olev" Moskowskaia(...) !4nNVlkAamo No.1417956]

>>1417944
Noice. Cool drills

[Beppy !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1417958]

>>1417956
Impacts*

Nice tripcode

[Anonymous No.1418207]

>>1417944
Black and Decker is Stanley Black and Decker's lowest tier tool line, they are cheap homeowner-tier tools below Ryobi or Porter Cable sold at department stores like Target and Kroger to housewives and the elderly.

they make some useful cheap combo starter kits that come with drill and drive bits in a case like >>1417884 but quality is on par with Harbor Freight drills and arnt meant for any real serious use.

Ryobi beats pretty much every other Homeowner Tier power tool brand simply with the size of their tool line and how long they have stuck with the same battery platform. they have been using the same batteries for over 20 years now and have and extensive lineup of power tools, outdoor power equipment and oddball stuff like tire inflators, bolt cutters or an Air Conditioning cooler that makes investing in Ryobi tools a great option for people looking to get things done around the house without spending a fortune on commercial level stuff.

>yes i used to be a Home Depot sales shill

[Beppy !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1418217]

>>1418207
Yes I understand that, as do many people here. But Black & Decker used to be more of a professional tool company.

My neighbor keeps trying to shill me on Ryobi (as I use my yellow tools) but I still want to upgrade with newer DeWalt. I like the Porter Cable line but I don’t want to buy from Lowe’s.

[Anonymous No.1418227]

Are Ryobi battery packs so expensive because they are Japanese cells? I don't mind paying for high quality Japanese batteries, but I don't want to pay a lot to get Chinese cells.

[Anonymous No.1418228]

>>1415863
HAAARRBOOUURR FFRREIGHTT!

[Anonymous No.1418249]

>>1415863
>Not using glorious Dutch machinery

[Anonymous No.1418250]

>>1418227
Fuck, even HF uses Samsung cells in their not complete shit power tools. The batteries are expensive because the companies make their money on those.

[Anonymous No.1418279]

>>1418250
>Samsung cells
Are made in both China and Japan. Japanese ones have higher quality.

[Anonymous No.1418417]

>>1418249
>1.5ah
>2018

[Anonymous No.1418418]

>>1418279
dont know the exact model number on the battery cells but Ryobi just rolled out new 2.0, 3.0, 6.0 and 9.0ah batteries this spring that use a different cell than previous models with the larger two batteries greatly increasing power output on their brushless tools.

[Anonymous No.1418422]

Ryobi for days.

[Anonymous No.1418423]

>>1417489

Hand drills? Who the fuck uses hand drills?

[Anonymous No.1418425]

>>1418423
plenty of Luddites out there.

[Anonymous No.1418427]

>>1418422
Yah, love Ryobi. But prefer red.

[Anonymous No.1418428]

>>1415993
Black is not teal.
It looks like a real gun, not like pew-pew toy. boring

[Anonymous No.1418431]

>>1418428
the best Makita tools come in black too.

[Anonymous No.1418433]

>>1418431
Color doesn't actually matter.
But I like teal more.

[Anonymous No.1418500]

>>1417039
Buy both, open em and return.

[Anonymous No.1418606]

>>1418422
>>1418427
Nice. I also have a ridgid tool (shop vac)

[Anonymous No.1418608]

>>1418422
(((Ryobi)))

[Anonymous No.1418610]

>>1418422
Anon, I have news about your shelf...

[Anonymous No.1418657]

>>1418422
That shelf looks like it was built with Ryobi tools for sure

[Anonymous No.1418665]

>>1418249

why is that thing so long? its 2018

[Anonymous No.1418667]

>>1418665
I've never liked those short models for some reason. I've always had 'long' models and they have never let me down

[Anonymous No.1418682]

>>1418610
>>1418657
its made of some old recycled plastic planks i had laying around, it will never break but that stuff flexes over time when not properly supported like on deck stringers.

[Anonymous No.1418715]

>>1418422
m12 shits on your tools

[Anonymous No.1418728]

>>1418715

M12 has this little sucker which is why i invested in the line:

Also has the rotary tool.

[Anonymous No.1418746]

>>1417430
The other anon already replied I just want to agree with him. I worked in manufacturing, I used a dewalt 20v impact constantly, and the shop ran 24/7 so other men were using it on different shifts. I saw this thing go from yellow to black because it was covered in grease and grime (over about 18 months) and I had seen it dropped or thrown or used as a hammer and God knows what else and when it FINALLY stopped working on me one day, I threw it off of an 11 ft high platform across the entire shop and it hit the concrete. After I was done being pissed off about it, I went back and picked it up and the fucking thing works again. Still going when I quit the job a few months later.
Dewalt/milwaukee battery operated tools are just fucking tough.

[Anonymous No.1418748]

>>1418746
Me again.
I bought a set of my own after using them in that shop I was sold.

[Anonymous No.1418788]

>>1418728
Still prefer M18 for drill/impact/circ-saw/grinder/sawzall, nice that the charger does both M12 and M18 because there's some M12 stuff I really like and having one charger for either batt is convenient.

I have the 3/8" version of that ratchet, and for automotive work, it replaced the 1/4" impact as my favorite tool.

[Anonymous No.1418799]

>>1415863
From years of experience:
hilti
metabo
makita

Everything else is shit.

[Anonymous No.1418814]

>>1418728
>>1418788
m18 is ok if you're framing houses or something but as a wire puller/conduit hanger i would have killed for the M12 form factor. I have them now but i work at a desk for most of the time, still worth it. Lower weight makes a huge difference

[Anonymous No.1419061]

I wish there was an orange to green adapter. There's plenty (and cheap!) ones to go from yellow or teal to green, and some to go from red to green, but I haven't seen any orange to green.

[Anonymous No.1419073]

>>1418814
I use the m12 drill for basic screwdriving putting together devices and 4square box assemblies. Works great and the adjustable clutch helps prevent overtorqeing some of the annoying screws. Waiting on the new version that iirc will be out this year because after about 4 years the current unit is kinda worn around the edges.

[Anonymous No.1419093]

I bought this Black and Decker drill on sale for $70.
Did i fuck up?

[Anonymous No.1419099]

>>1419093
Nobody is going to laud you for buying a cheap drill, but it will probably be fine for stuff

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1419143]

>>1419093
>>1419099
At least that’s th 20V version so anon can get other tools in the line. That stuff works, you just can’t use the drill as a hammer like DeWalt or Milwaukee.

[Anonymous No.1419154]

I'm just starting to get into DIY stuff, mostly automotive. could I get away with using a good impact driver as an impact wrench or would that be a terrible idea?

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1419156]

>>1419154
Not enough torks for the big stuff. A 1/4” impact driver isn’t going to break anything loose that you can’t get off with a ratchet.

However, if you want to speed up your jobs and get lugnuts or other fasteners on/off faster, you can use a breaker bar to loosen them the first half turn, zip it off and back on with an impact driver or drill with a socket adapter, then tighten the final half turn with a torque wrench or whatever.

[Anonymous No.1419163]

Use a decent drill ffs

[Anonymous No.1419164]

>>1419163
OR
/2

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1419169]

>>1419163
>>1419164
What’s the difference between blue and green Bosch?

Same for Makita- the white is supposed to be their compact stuff (mostly meaning 1.5Ah batteries) but then there’s blue and black.

[Anonymous No.1419170]

I was planning on working on smaller cars for the most part so I thought I may have been able to get away with it. I'll probably just get an impact wrench when I get the cash for it then

[Anonymous No.1419171]

>>1419156
I was planning on working on smaller cars for the most part so I thought I may have been able to get away with it. I'll probably just get an impact wrench when I get the cash for it then

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1419172]

>>1419170
Wut brand impact driver you have?

I recently got a corded one but they’re not as powerful as good air powere guns or the high torque Milwaukee or DeWalt models. But the powerful cordless 1/2” impacts are going to run $300-$400 with a battery. If you try to go cheaper like Ryobi, you’re not going to get any more power than you could with a breaker bar. So do your research.

This corded one claims 450ft-lbs which is plenty for lug nuts and should be able to get lots of stuff off that I would need the breaker bar for. It was only $80 after I got 20% off at Advance Auto Parts. I would like to have a 1000ft-lb model but I don’t use the shit enough to justify the cost.

[Anonymous No.1419173]

If you plan on doing a lot of work with a car, buy a damn air compressor and air tools.Why make things hard on yourself?

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1419174]

>>1419173
This is what I want to do. I think I would rather spend $400 on a compressor than $400 on a battery powered impact. Once you get a decent compressor and lines, a powerful air impact can be found for like $150. And that opens up options for tons of other tools like an air ratchet and sander and air hammer deal and all of those tools are cheaper than getting the same thing but battery powered.

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1419176]

>>1419173
Oh but since anon was asking about using a 1/4” driver as an impact wrench, it’s probably worth adding that a $50 3gal pancake compressor won’t run a 1/2” air impact very well

[Anonymous No.1419181]

>>1419173
for one because I'm just starting out and genuinely don't know much at all about power tools. Battery powered seemed like it worked almost just as well with the added benefit of portability so if I ever wanted to take it to a junk yard or do work out of my garage I wouldn't have to worry about taking an air compressor with me.
>>1419176
I know something that small wont work but how large of a tank do you need? would a 30 portable gallon be good enough or would you need to go bigger?

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1419188]

>>1419181
I was trying to ask this recently too but didn’t get a whole lot of useful info around here. I think a 30gal would work, but you have to look at the PSI and airflow. The 1/2” guns seem to be running around 6cfm between 90-120psi. So you want to make sure the compressor can keep up with that. You will see that there’s some great deals on 30gal compressors but they’re only running 3CFM@ 90psi or only go up to 100psi so you will run that thing down really fast. And with the really tough nuts and bolts, you need to hold the trigger down for 10-15 seconds and let the hammer do its thing, so you need a good pump to get the full use.

But I still need to do more research. I was browsing a lot of the 25-35 gal compressors as well and trying to figure out if something like 150psi max and 7CFM@ 90psi will keep up with the tools.

Maybe somebody else will come through with good info.

[Anonymous No.1419281]

>>1419169
Makita white tools were meant to be their lower level consumer tools. they were the cheapest option in their lineup and came with the smallest batteries. they actually sold pretty well but they didnt make very many tools besides the basic drill and impact set and a bunch of white 12v tools. those have all been replaced by the newer 12 CXT line and cheap brushless tools you see being sold at Home Depot for big sales like Christmas.

Makita black tools in the US are their Sub-Compact line, they are just smaller brushless tools meant for lighter duty work. power wise they compete directly with Milwaukee's M12 Fuel tools but have the advantage of sharing batteries with full sized tools instead of relying on two different battery platforms.

note that none of this applies to Makita tools in Japan, over there blue is their standard color but most tools like >>1418431 are available in a number of different colors depending on the model (teal, green, white, black, pink, gold, blood red, brown).

[Anonymous No.1419285]

>>1415863
Those fucking quick change chucks, does anyone know where you can buy them as a part?

All I can find are keyless 3 jaw shitty things.

[Anonymous No.1419297]

>>1419285
something like this?

https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DWA2509-IMPACT-READY-Holder/dp/B00E3AOBJO

[Anonymous No.1419303]

>>1419297
milwaukee also has nice impact rated 1/2" and 3/8" square drive to 1/4" hex adapters so you can drive screws with your impact wrench or sockets.

https://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-48-03-4405-Shockwave-8-Inch-Adapter/dp/B002KKBBQ0

[Anonymous No.1419306]

>>1419297
not quite. The push/pull type chuck that is on the tool itself. Like, it doesn't have to be an actual oem part, but that type. Your link is like a short bit holder with a magnet to rapidly set screws and stuff.

[Anonymous No.1419310]

>>1419306
this might be closer to what you are looking for.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XDNXVQF/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?psc=1

[Anonymous No.1419317]

>>1419303
>>1419310
Yeah I think you might have been right the first time, even. The photos never really show the 'click' action so I assumed it was only holding the bits magnetically. Cheers.

[Anonymous No.1419368]

>>1419188
>The 1/2” guns seem to be running around 6cfm between 90-120psi
You don't run an impact continuously. A 20gal tank is more important than the CFM.
>allow tank to fill to 100-120psi
>pull trigger on impact
>nut breaks loose with full pressure
>still able to spin it off with reduced pressure
If it's a really tough nut to get loose, apply PB and wait a minute for compressor to shut off.
I have Ingersol Rand 1/2" impact and an old compressor that supplies ~4CFM at 80psi.
I never have any trouble.

[Anonymous No.1419374]

>>1416072
The quality is going downhill. I had a 36v (2x18) recip saw burn out 5 minutes after getting it out of the box. Top of the range 18v impact driver literally fell appart in my hands and the guts fell out (the anvil thing). Milwaukee look decent, but too many shit products like their multitool, plus they're owned by Hong Kong.

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1419379]

>>1419368
Do you know the specs on your IR by any chance?

I guess you’re right. I was thinking about the math and even on the most stubborn bolt, maybe the impact takes 10-15sec to break the nut loose.

I don’t remember my physics and math worth a damn but maybe somebody who is smarter than me will tell me if this is even close:

1ft^3 is like 7.5gal, so a 30gal tank would be about 4 cubic feet. Even if you’re running the real powerful impact at 8CFM full bustin’ nuts and it takes 15sec of 100% trigger pull to decide whether the nut will come loose or you shear it, that’s 2 cubic feet of air in that 15sec, and your 4 cubic foot tank would loose half an atmosphere in that time, so that’s only ~7psi? I know there has to be more to the equation but s that anywhere close to correct?

If it’s like that, 30gal does sound pretty good assuming I’m not doing NASCAR style pit stops on 18 wheeler trucks. But would probably want at least 4-5CFM so it doesn’t have to run for 15min to refill after lugs on one car wheel.

[Anonymous No.1419555]

Bosch are actually the best

t. have used and broken all brands

[Anonymous No.1420499]

*blocks your path*

Say what you will, but these Corter Pable tools are pretty damned good.

[Anonymous No.1420502]

>>1419374
>but too many shit products like their multitool, plus they're owned by Hong Kong.

Having too much variety in a tool line is bad?
Also it means literally nothing where a company headquarters is. Shareholders who actually "own" the company are all cut from the same cloth (which nationality has nothing to do with), and most of Makita is chinese made anyways.

[Anonymous No.1420503]

>>1420499
>Say what you will,

Why would I buy low end yellow in a white case? At least you have to ability to keep your yellow batteries and upgrade to a high level tool. Not so being locked into white.

[Anonymous No.1420511]

>>1420503

I would say I'm a little more than a home gamer, but I haven't had any trouble with these "low-end" tools. The only real nigger is that if you have a bunch of them, I still haven't found an actual multi-charger.

[Anonymous No.1420514]

makita's are pretty good

[Anonymous No.1420787]

>>1419169
Green Bosch is just the consumer quality stuff while the blue is actually good.

[Anonymous No.1420804]

>>1420511
There is a meme that "its the same stuff in a different case" which people abuse and try to justify different shit which is never the case.

With that said, low end dewalt and porter cable having similar specs and similar price points I would actually be inclined to believe they are pretty much the same tools with a different case.
Its a big name brand, manufacturing QC is at an all time high. I wouldnt expect you to have trouble at all with the stuff.
I just stick by that fact youd be better off with more upgrade options if you go the cheapest Dewalt because you can use those batteries on so much shit vs the much more limited Porter Cable line.

Its sad we have to devolve the conversations down to battery ecosystems instead of the tools themselves, but it really is one of the most jew thing in the tool world

[Anonymous No.1421054]

>>1420804
>>Its sad we have to devolve the conversations down to battery ecosystems instead of the tools themselves, but it really is one of the most jew thing in the tool world

At least you can get cheap chink batteries for most things. I'm not a brandfag, either. I've got Porter Cable, Ryobi, Makita, among others.

If there was a battery standard that'd be amazing, but then they couldn't sell the tools at a discounted rate, because they're loss leaders to Jew you on the batteries.

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.1421103]

>>1421054
I was at Lowe’s a few days ago and they had a deal where you buy a Porter Cable top of the line battery and get a free bare tool with it. Kinda pisses me off how they do that. The fucking batteries should be so much cheaper.

[Anonymous No.1421376]

>>1416689
Tell that to the Ryobi Ranger

[Anonymous No.1421378]

>>1416125
can i join? :3

[Anonymous No.1421380]

>>1421103

Meh... if you’re a homeowner how many amp hours do you need? 2 4 amp hour batteries are all I need for my dozen or so ryobi tools

[Anonymous No.1421392]

>>1416125
this

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.1421406]

>>1421380
The batteries still shit out with age. At least they’re better than the NiCd batteries. After a couple years of mild use, it’s almost like you have to buy another tool when you’re spending $150 on two more batteries.

I think the real issue is I need a gas powered chainsaw instead of using the sawzall for certain stuff.

[Anonymous No.1421413]

>>1416000

Kawaii triple-ought hates Japan... on 4chan desu sempai.

[Anonymous No.1421448]

>>1419169
most green bosch is overpriced cheap shit
blue is OK if still overpriced (sometimes you can get Fein stuff cheaper which is way above Bosch in terms of quality )

also note
Bosch green and blue batteries are incompatible so if you want a cheap garden trimmer to go with your good tools you're screwd
besides Bosch green implemented some ideas that look straight up scammy like pic related
plastic blades(durablade) on a trimmer seriously

[Anonymous No.1421455]

>>1416667

I got a DeWalt for exactly this reason about ten years ago, at a Black Friday sale for about half price. It's been great for odd jobs ever since. If you don't have a job pressing right now, then just wait for a deal on something that gets good Consumer Reports reviews (they tend to review with the casual homeowner in mind). Pretty much anything you get will be fine for what you're using it for. The different between models is swamped by the differences due to your lack of experience, and reliability/ruggedness hardly matters if it spends most weekends sitting in the closet. All the major brands are good enough.

Now that I'm getting more serious about doing bigger jobs and having more cordless tools, I'm taking my time and doing my homework. The problem is that every brand has its own batteries. So you get to choose between lots of expensive incompatible batteries sitting around in the chargers, or marrying yourself to one brand. DW screwed over their consumers on one new battery standard a little while ago, so I'd avoid getting too deep into them lest that happens again. Also, be advised that the big brands are going memetool botnet with built-in computers.

>>1416689
>>1416701
>>1416704
>>1417122
>>1417828
>>1417859
>>1417884
>>1417886
>>1418207

There's a famous Harvard Business School case about this. B&D was finding that they were losing their original core market (contractors). So they commissioned a market research study and found:

>Contractors are incredibly fashion-conscious and scared of not looking like pros with their bros.
>B&D had branched into household appliances and was doing really well there.
>Contractors had gotten scared of being seen with a brand their wives used at home.
>When given a B&D tool to review, they said it was underpowered, not rugged, and not reliable.
>When given the same tool with the B&D brand name scraped off or replaced with another brand name, they gave it rave reviews.

[Anonymous No.1421459]

>>1421455

So B&D found a brand name they inherited from a company they'd bought out years before and let die. Then they made the exact same tools in a bright yellow color and with this cool-sounding brand name. And that's how DeWalt was born.

In fairness, now that B&D tools are aimed at homeowners, the stuff is less contractor-built, but you really don't need something that will endure years of 10 hour work days.

Point being that contractors are like goths: they spend a LOT of time worrying what their buddies think and a LOT of lip-flapping telling everyone who will listen that they don't care what other people think and it's all about performance on the job site.

[Anonymous No.1421467]

>>1419374
>>1420502
> they're owned by Hong Kong.

wait what ?
i did look at the makita stock like a week ago and of the 10 biggest shareholders all were Japanese with 2-3 from the USA thrown in

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.1421476]

>>1421455
Kek, tell us something we don’t know.

Dudes in my shop at work who do heavy duty diesel work, the young guys who were car techs first have $$$$ worth of Mac or Snap-On tools. The older dudes with families who have been doing the shit for decades, they will pull out a Craftsman socket set and do the job just fine.

[Anonymous No.1421737]

>>1421467
hes talking about Milwaukee, which is a subsidiary of TechTronic Industries based out of Hong Kong.

[Anonymous No.1421760]

[Anonymous No.1421782]

>>1421455
>>Contractors are incredibly fashion-conscious and scared of not looking like pros with their bros.

Listen to the Makita shills and youll see it on this very board.

[Anonymous No.1421785]

>>1421376

>Im old so I must know what I'm talking about.
>These tools all work great (all i do is work with soft wood)
>Actual boomer

[Anonymous No.1422040]

Team Purple

[Anonymous No.1422136]

>>1421476
>The older dudes with families who have been doing the shit for decades, they will pull out a Craftsman socket set and do the job just fine.

and they are probobly using sockets several decades old dating back to when Craftsman sold quality tools. these days you need to go to high end tool brands like Snap-On for parts that will take a beating, otherwise just get a cheap brand with a lifetime warranty like Husky or Kobalt and get them replaced when they inevitably break.

same goes for the Black and Decker tool line, you might be able to keep one of their old tools from the 70s like a corded drill running but their newer tools are meant for housewives and arnt built to the same standards.

[Anonymous No.1423705]

>>1416958
if you can afford it, go blue. Bosch has already made solid tools. the batteries have an indicator and it's platform supports a good amount

[Anonymous No.1423717]

>>1421476

Tool truck lemmings are the biggest idiots on the planet. I'll have to find that Youtube video of some fool with like 3 Snap On cabinets of pristine shiny tools, obviously never used. Must have cost him well over $10,000.

[Anonymous No.1423723]

>>1423717

Why would you risk breaking your tools when you just spent so much money on them??

[Anonymous No.1423737]

>>1423705
depends where you live, Bosch tools arnt as common in the US as they are in Yurop so if you spend all your time at Home Depot or something you are better off looking at another brand like Milwaukee or Dewalt.

[Anonymous No.1423742]

>>1417811
It's shit tier tool versions in those combos, not worth it unless you have no tools or money. Also tons of garbage yard equipment.

[Anonymous No.1423986]

>>1415878
Came here to post this

[Anonymous No.1425060]

>>1415863
Already with the Yellow Jacket for battery system convenience. Would otherwise choose the Ant Man impact driver: The low speed adjustment allows to get the exact amount of impacts for delicate jobs.

[Anonymous No.1425254]

>>1421782

Lol I'm the anon you replied to with the DeWalt and looking at the various battery platforms. Right now I'm leaning towards Makita. Their tracksaw gets very good reviews, and it seems like they have the breadth of offerings and have solid quality on most of their stuff.

Plus the SJWs hate them right now. Not a reason to buy, but nice if I'm buying anyway.

[Anonymous No.1427290]

Pretty cool Bosch woodworking-level drill for $119 on Prime Day for you anons with a Prime account or who can figure out how to get other stores to price match:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074GYX6XG/ref=gbdp_vlo_4941223c_B074GYX6XG?_encoding=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

[Anonymous No.1427291]

Pretty cool Bosch woodworking-level drill for $119 on Prime Day for you anons with a Prime account or who can figure out how to get other stores to price match:

https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-GSR12V-140FCB22-Flexiclick-Driver-System/dp/B074GYX6XG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1531798451&sr=8-1&keywords=Bosch+GSR12V-140FCB22&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

[Anonymous No.1427570]

>>1427291
>who can figure out how to get other stores to price match:

pretty much every brick and mortar store has a policy against price-matching Amazon.

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1427649]

>>1427291
They had a few kits with good deals but I’m not sure if I want to take the jump from yellow.

[Anonymous No.1427675]

>>1427570
Ive seen price matching, as long as its shipped and sold by amazon not a third part seller.

I dont see why stores wouldnt, the whole "amazon has great prices" meme is long dead. Its cheaper to buy it at a brick in mortar most of the time nowadays.
Buying something "Prime" stands for, paying monthly to have the privilege to pay 10-20% more (plus tax) for an item to get it shipped 2 days.

[Anonymous No.1427780]

>>1415863
All the top brands are more or less the same, IMO. It's when you get into the shit tier stuff where you see the difference.

[Anonymous No.1427783]

>>1415878
I was strongly considering buying these because of the lifetime warranty. I've used two different sets owned by two different people. Even on a fully charged battery the torque on them was terrible. It sunk the screws like when my battery on my milwuakee was on it's second last screw before it died.

[Anonymous No.1427784]

>>1415993
What the fuck is up with those different speed setting the impact driver has? When would that ever be useful?

[Anonymous No.1427793]

>>1416460
milwuaukee has goat plumbing tools, as your pic shows. They also have this small portable band saw for cutting bigger pipes.

[Anonymous No.1427802]

>>1427784
>When would that ever be useful?
when you don't want to break a bolt

[Anonymous No.1427812]

>>1427784
>different speed setting the impact driver
not speed, it's torque settings to turn it down

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1428087]

>>1427812
Psh it’s the same thing. Spin the hammers faster, more tork. Spin em slower, less torks.

>>1427780
The tool selection is a bit more expansive with certain brands. Milwaukee and DeWalt seem to have some plumbing and electrical tools that the others don’t. I kept thinking about some of that Bosch stuff with Prime Days but they don’t sell a bolt shearing 1/2” impact like Yellow and Red.

I’m starting to think about one of those 12V sets with a drill/driver and 1/4” impact. They’re affordable from the good brands and look handy around the house. My favorite Ferd Youtube repair guy is always shilling his 12v Bosch impact for working under the hood.

[Anonymous No.1428096]

>TFW When no shiny bae

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1428174]

>>1428087
Wanted to stay yellow, but if I want a set of 12V tools I won’t be able to swap batteries anyway and this looks like a deal.

Otherwise I can get a similar Milwaukee combo, I think brushed was $130 or $150 and brushless was closer to $200.

[Anonymous No.1428255]

>>1428174
the Ridgid 12v set is the cheapest option but far from the best. they will work fine around the house but their 12v line is pretty much non-existent unless you buy a 12v Jobmax set and invest in the various powerheads.

M12 is always the gold standard for 12v tools, their brushless models outperform every other manufacturer and they have the widest line by far. Makita CXT tools have their perks but they need to continue expanding their line to compete with Milwaukee.

the brushed M12 kit usually sells between $99 and $149 depending on the sale, right now they are selling it with a free battery. if you want power go for the M12 Fuel set and start expanding your tool set from there.

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1428305]

>>1428255
Is Fuel the brushless line? I think for the $30 extra over Rigid (with a 3rd battery right now) I would rather get the Milwaukee just because of the option to get those ratchets and maybe the little sawzall thing. There’s a few people with the 12v and 18v ratchets on /o/ who love them.

The $199 brushless set looks nice, but if I’m going for a 12V set, I don’t exactly need a ton of power.

[Anonymous No.1428341]

>>1428305
Fuel is Milwaukee's line of top-end tools, they all have brushless motors and extra control chips to make their power output and battery usage more efficient. they are the way to go if you are looking for the best possible tools for daily use on the jobsite but in regular homeowner applications you wont really notice many of the differences between them and the regular brushed set.

[Anonymous No.1428378]

real men buy hilti, plebs

[Anonymous No.1428387]

>>1428378
>spending your own money on fleet tools

[Anonymous No.1428684]

Reminder:

>Better than you need tier:
Hilti, Mac, Fein, Festool/Protool, Ingersol Rand, Snap On, Professional Panasonics, Nemo Underwater

> "Good drill" tier
Dewalt, Makita, Milwaukee, Blue Bosch, Hitatchi, Metabo

>"high end home-use" tier
24v Kobalt, Ridgid

>good enough for around the house tier
Ryobi, porter cable, black and decker, craftsman, Worx, 20v Kobalt, Stanley

>Chinese flea market tier
Chicago Electric, Wen, Hercules, Bauer, Earthquake

>literally who tier
Greenworks, Genesis, Rockwell, Triton, everything else

[Anonymous No.1428689]

>>1428684
>Hercules

That could be moved up a tier or maybe even two tiers after some time goes by and their durability is tested. They test well head to head with equivalent Dewalt/Milwaukee/Makita equipment in various types of tools.

[Anonymous No.1428690]

>>1428684

>Hercules

That could be moved up a tier or maybe even three tiers after some time goes by and their durability is tested. They test well head to head with equivalent Dewalt/Milwaukee/Makita equipment in various types of tools.

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1428791]

>>1428690
You’re right, they’re decent tools made to compete with yellow and red but why the fuck would anybody buy then? I think currently only have two tools in their cordless lineup (drill and 1/4” driver), they cost just as much as a similar yellow or red (even though they compare the brushed Hercules with 1 battery to the $170 US made brushless DeWalt with 2 batteries) and they only have a 90-day warranty compared to 3-5 years with the others.

They need to put the Earthquake tools (impacts and cordless ratchet) in a blue case and offer that big battery for the Hercules tools, and then come out with some saws and drop the price to $70-$80 for a tool and battery before it would be a real option. I would rather buy Bauer.

[Anonymous No.1428798]

>>1428791

Thanks. Those are things I should have mentioned. I just discovered that it's exempt from H&F coupons. So yeah...I'd go with a Dewalt DCD777C2 kit before the equivalent Hercules drill since the Dewalt comes with a three year warranty and two 1.5AH batteries vs. the one 2.5AH battery with the Hercules.

The one major advantage Hercules seems to offer is significantly cheaper batteries. Though saavy shoppers can probably wait for sales to replace their Dewalt batteries for a Hercules battery price.

[Anonymous No.1428806]

>>1415863
red looks handier

[Anonymous No.1428808]

>>1416067
IT MUST STAND HORIZONTAL FOR BETTER USE

[Anonymous No.1428809]

>>1416067

everything below this post is just garbage

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1428813]

>>1428798
Yeah the batteries are the only upside. But most people want multiple tools from the same line so you can often get combo kits and deals where the batteris are basically free. The 1.5Ah batteries will last a bit on the drill too, and I would rather have two so I can charge one while burning out the other.

Also remember that if you buy any of the more expensive HF power tools, you basically need the extended warranty. So that will probably put you over the price of the DeWalt kit, the extended warranty is 2yrs vs DeWalt’s 3yr (or Milwaukee’s 5yr), and if the Hercules breaks after 9mos and you need to warranty it, the new one will have a 90-day warranty unless you pay for another 2yr extended warranty. The original 2yr extended warranty won’t cover the replacement tool.

Plus there are literally only 3 cordless tools in the Hercules lineup right now. So you can buy all those cheap 5.0Ah batteries, but what the hell are you going to use them on? You need 5.0Ah for your 1/4” impact?

[Anonymous No.1428824]

>>1428813

They probably should have had a better plan for the rollout. There's still opportunity to make the brand strong but, I think, they missed out on the hype opportunity of offering a comprehensive tool selection for a slightly better value and really entrenching their tools in the mindset. Stuff like 5Ah batteries and no logical tool to use them on makes me wonder about their intelligence.

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1428847]

>>1428824
I’m sure they have more in the works for that line. They do need to take the Eartquake stuff and put a blue shell and Hercules sticker on it. They could totally get rid of the Earthquake brand then. If they did that plus a sawzall, it would make it a much better brand.

Their stuff still scares me though. If somebody invests $500+ in Hercules tools, are they guaranteed that they can still find batteries and parts for them 5 years down the road? HF has had a few brands come and go. I think that Bauer has a decent lineup and is a good competitor to Ryobi, Porter Cable, or B&D but who knows how long you will be able to get tools and batteries for that brand.

[Anonymous No.1428879]

>>1428813
how much does Harbor Freight charge for their warranty? that Hammer Drill is already $100 plus the warranty and freight you are getting dangerously close to the price of a Dewalt DCD778L1 set with the brushless hammer drill, 3.0ah battery and a proper warranty.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-20-Volt-MAX-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Brushless-1-2-in-Compact-Hammer-Drill-with-Battery-3-0Ah-Charger-and-Contractor-Bag-DCD778L1/304051213

[Anonymous No.1428882]

>>1428813
how much does Harbor Freight charge for their extended warranty? that Hammer Drill is already $110, plus the cost of a warranty and freight you are getting dangerously close to the price of a Dewalt DCD778L1 set with the brushless hammer drill, 3.0ah battery and a proper warranty.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-20-Volt-MAX-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Brushless-1-2-in-Compact-Hammer-Drill-with-Battery-3-0Ah-Charger-and-Contractor-Bag-DCD778L1/304051213

[Anonymous No.1428888]

>>1428847
honestly if you want budget tools just stick with Ryobi, they have the best quality of the Home-Use tier brands >>1428684, endless battery and charger options, a wider tool lineup than most professional tool lines, a growing line of brushless tools and cross-compatibility with their 18v outdoor power tools.

[Anonymous No.1428896]

>>1428882

+$15ish for two years is what some people were saying in other forums.

[Anonymous No.1428897]

>>1428882

+$15ish for two years is what some people were saying in other forums. You've identified the problem here...they're treating these tools like they're proven in the field and charging those prices. If I were rolling out a new brand to compete in Dewalt/Makita/Milwauke/Ridgid tier I would include a free five year warranty and stand behind it. Take a small $ hit for a few years.Get people to buy it and establish that shit.

[Anonymous No.1428914]

>>1428897
they're also charging full prices while competing with the previous generation of tools which will be the last tools to use brushed motors.

Milwaukee just announced today they are expanding their line-up of non-Fuel brushless tools, which is probobly a glimpse at things to come. there arnt going to be any more new brushed tools from the main manufacturers, everything will be brushless with different power outputs with higher end lines like Fuel and XR/Flexvolt sitting at the top.

https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-2801-20
https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-2902-20
https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-2850-20
https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-2851-20
https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-2631-20

[Anonymous No.1428925]

>>1428914
>Milwaukee

They have been on fire for the last four years. I'm not much of a tool junkie but was there some sort of corporate restructuring in the last decade? They seem to have 80% of the energy in the market and do almost everything first (though I just purchased the 12v Bosch Flexiclick and it's as cool as it looks).

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1428929]

>>1428882
Kek, that’s exactly the problem. After the warranty, which is still a year shorter than yellow, you’re at a higher price than Yellow’s brushed (IIRC Hercules is brushed too) and getting close to Yellow’s brushless prices.

Why would you pay more for the Harbor Freight clone? The only reason is the cheap batteries, but that’s a terrible reason because most people will never need the 5.0Ah battery for those drills and 1/4” impact and their lineup doesn’t include any saws or sanders that could really use the big battery for only $60.

>>1428914
>>1428925
DeWalt has been doing good too. They have the new 60V line which Milwaukee doesn’t have anything to compete. I think for most trades, Red or Yellow is the way to go. Woodworking can do with Makita or Bosch but they’re missing a lot of the stuff mechanics, plumbers, and HVAC dudes could use.

[Anonymous No.1428941]

>>1428925
Milwaukee does a have a removeable power head version of the Gen 2 M12 Fuel drill but i dont think its going to be sold in the US.

>>1428929
Dewalt has a couple things in the flexvolt line like the miter saw, concrete saw and SDS Max rotary hammer that Milwaukee would have a hard time competing with, but the Flexvolt tools havnt been selling very well and the 60v motors have limited applications outside of really heavy duty tools. when Flexvolt first came out people were expecting 3 times the power out of the 60v batteries but all they were getting was maybe a 30-40% improvement is real life tool performance and a longer runtime. Milwaukee has been pushing the M18 line harder and harder and getting high power outputs out of bigger and bigger batteries, right now the new M18 Fuel Circular saw and Super Sawzall with 12.0 batteries are more powerful than their flexvolt equivalents and cut as well as a high amp corded model.

the heavy Flexvolt tools are nice and all but they target a very specific industry while the M12 line has been flying off the shelves and expanding on an almost monthly basis while the Dewalt 12v line is essentially a dead platform. i think a lot of people are happy with the power of cordless tools at the moment and the current market trend is towards lighter weight compact tools that can do the job of bigger older stuff.

just look at the reaction towards the M12 Stubby Impact Wrench vs. the M18 1" Impact Wrench. the 1" is a worlds first with over 2000ft/lb of torque and opens up an entire field to cordless tools but far more people are interested in what they can do with a tiny little 3in long 1/2" impact that puts out only 250ft/lb.

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.1428968]

>>1428925
Oh shit is that the Bosch that was on sale for PrimeDay? That thing looked neat. Does it all work as good as a regular 12V tool or does it feel like there is some compromise?

>>1428941
I agree, the red is dank. They have a few more options that catch my eye and make me want to switch from yellow. The 12V batteries charging on the 18V platform is cool and their cordless electric ratchet things look real nice.

[Anonymous No.1429000]

>>1428305
Can confirm, have the m12 fuel gen 2's and it's unbelievable how much power you get out of them.

I use them in woodwork applications though. You're not gonna be driving timberloks (all that quickly, although they will do it) with them.

I've also got the fuel hackzall and it's great for small stuff and emt conduit, etc.

Some good specialty ones in the line as well.

[Anonymous No.1429020]

>>1428968
>Oh shit is that the Bosch that was on sale for PrimeDay? That thing looked neat. Does it all work as good as a regular 12V tool or does it feel like there is some compromise?

That's the one. I've dinked around with most of the 12 volts at Home Depot and this one feels like any good purpose-built drill. Once the head is locked into place there's no play...doesn't feel loose and annoying, which was my biggest concern.

I just put a 1/4" lag through a 2x4 for ya:

https://mega.nz/#!GXIEyQJJ!ENpfjIX4VNvJqx1jskGVa-wLYB2xKP3742Nn-KlUnYA

[Anonymous No.1429057]

Red does the job faster. Yellow costs more

[Anonymous No.1429064]

>>1429057
Got that backwards, bucko

[Anonymous No.1429243]

I work with my classic black and decker

[Anonymous No.1429261]

>>1429243
Do you get food stamps and WIC too?

[Anonymous No.1429269]

>>1429261
With all the money they have saved by not buying cordless garbage that you have to replace every 3 years because they don't make batteries for it anymore probably not.

[Anonymous No.1429275]

>>1429269

do you have a license for that hole shooter ?

[Anonymous No.1429342]

>>1429269
Back when Milwaukee was actually American.

[Anonymous No.1429403]

>>1429269
>>1429243
patrician taste

[Anonymous No.1429471]

>>1429269
biggest problem with corded drills, no matter which century they were made in, is that they are great at drilling but terrible at driving. all of the precision and finesse needed to put screws in are lost on that type of motor, meaning you are back to using hand tools for half of the jobs you would be doing with a modern drill/driver, let alone an application that would be better suited to an impact driver or requires a hammer drill action.

when there are tools out there now that combine all four features into one, the only advantage you get out of ancient corded tools is their bulletproof reliability.

[Beppu !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1429485]

Fuck that M12 Fuel combo was tempting, plus a free 6.0 battery (which they didn’t have in stock anyway). But I think that’s too much since I might as well use 18v tools if I need tons of power.

These will be nice for fuckery under the dashboard or in the closet. Can’t beat it for $115

[Anonymous No.1429495]

Last week I got two 4.5 AH Chinese makita compatible batteries on Amazon for $20 because they set the price wrong. I bought the oscillating tool to pair with them and it's been fantastic to use so far. The only downside is that its 2 lbs heavier than any other oscillating tools I've looked at but hopefully that's just because its built to be more durable.

I have a bunch of 18v ryobi tools that my friend gave to me and they're mostly shit so I'm slowly replacing them.

[Anonymous No.1429525]

>>1428096
>B&D

My nigga.

[Beppu !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1429526]

>>1429525
Can I come to the party?

[Anonymous No.1429571]

>>1415863
Yellow for the homeowner, red for the professional.
Green for the rookie or Yuropoor.

[Beppu !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1429589]

>>1429571
I see more yellow around jobsites than red so they must be doing something right.

[Anonymous No.1429593]

>>1429589
It's the most cost effective, hence the DeFault nickname. Old masters like EC prefer red though.

[Anonymous No.1429610]

>>1429593
>hence the DeFault nickname

Only one faggot has called it that

[Anonymous No.1429613]

>>1429610
Sure bud.

[Anonymous No.1429615]

>>1429485
>plus a free 6.0 battery
>>1429485
>I might as well use 18v tools if I need tons of power.
6.0AH battery doesn't give more power - It gives the same power for a longer time.

[Anonymous No.1429621]

>>1429589
What jobsites are those?
The gay bath houses where you give out complimentary blow and rimjobs?

[Beppu !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1429647]

>>1429615
The extra power was referring to getting the M12 Fuel set for $200 vs the regular M12 for $150 or the Rigid for $120. If I need the power of the Fuel line where the regular 12V won’t work, I’ll grab an 18V tool.

>>1429621
Yes, those are included.

[Beppu !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1429670]

>the other orange

[Anonymous No.1429868]

Currently using Milwaukee 1/2" impact guns at work. I used DeWalt ones at my previous job.

The milwaukee is more powerful, but the Dewalt is built better, and has a much nicer trigger action. Milwaukee has a sort of 4 step trigger, where the Dewalt is more linear. Also, the Milwaukees have already got loose battery syndrome after less than a year, where the Dewalt, even after being thrown across the workshop countless times, run over by cars, left out in the rain, etc, works like day one.

[Anonymous No.1429874]

>>1429670
>the real orange

[Anonymous No.1429877]

>>1415863
Easy, red because of it's speed.

[Anonymous No.1429901]

>>1429874
FEIN tools are very long lasting. at my Job i Work with 30 year old FEIN angele grinder and drils. They are just Good.

[Anonymous No.1429912]

>>1429901
fein drills are super comfy in your hand

[Beppu !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1429935]

>>1429874
>tfw have tool store that specializes in good power tools nearby
>retarded hours mean it’s impossible for me to wander in there on a Saturday just to play with shit I can’t afford

[Anonymous No.1430029]

>>1428174
I have this exact Ridgid set. Not long after I swapped it out for the brushless M12 Fuel set and it was one of the best tool decisions I've even made. The difference in cost is absolutely worth it.
For what it's worth I have the Ridgid Gen5x hammer drill/impact driver combo and love em both, but hardly use either of em anymore in lieu of the Milwakuee M12 fuel set for most stuff.

[Anonymous No.1431045]

>>1430029

Rigid is the new B&D.

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.1431057]

>>1431045
What the hell does that mean? Good or bad?

They feel pretty solid. Definitely better than current B&D. Actually had a good use for them yesterday when I replaced a water pump on a car. Had enough room to get the little 12V impact between the engine and radiator for these long bolts and probably couldn’t get an 18V in there.

[Anonymous No.1431120]

>>1416067
I have that set and it's fucking great for what I paid.
Though the charger is fragile. It broke the first time it hit the ground.

[Anonymous No.1431167]

This seems like a decent enough place to ask. Im looking for the best electric drill to power a propellor (pic related). I bought a dewalt 20v dril last year and it worked well. I used it to push around a giant 6 person float on the pamlico sound. Im looking to buy two more props for more speed and was wondering if there are any drills more suited to this.

The dewalt did well, provided more power than I expected. But it did overheat and shut off on us one day. Is there something built for more constant use? I assume most drills are built to only run for a few minutes at a time. Also I doubt this exists but anything waterproof out there?

[Anonymous No.1431171]

>>1431167
Try a brushless dewalt, or a mud mixer drill

[Anonymous No.1431175]

>>1415863
I prefer natural wood than dirt bike plastic.

[Anonymous No.1431178]

>>1431171
The brushless dewalt is what ive got, and it did work really well. Just figured i'd check and see if anyone knew of something better. Thanks for the tip ill take a look at some mud mixers.

[Anonymous No.1431216]

>>1431167
its a stupid use of a drill but for running a propeller like that high torque and run time are more important that the higher RPM and drilling precision you get from a traditional cordless drill/driver.

if you want to get serious about it step up to a mud mixer, stud and joist drill or even a SDS rotary hammer in drill mode with a chuck adaptor. that will give you more torque and a smoother operation from a larger tool that is easier to handle and wont overheat as quickly. from there just get the biggest batteries possible and maybe find a way to fix the drive shaft to your boat's transom to keep it stable.

[Anonymous No.1431245]

>>1431216
Great tips, ive been looking at mud mixers and that might be a better option. I know this is about the most redneck way to push something on the water, but the issue is I dont have a boat I have a giant float that im trying to maneuver around, pic related. Your right that high torque and longevity are what matters most, thats why I got the 20v drill last year, it had a high torque number.

If I had a boat id just buy a regular troller motor. My friend has a john boat but the engine is siezed and its been several years since they've moved the trailer. Otherwise we would just bring that and pull the float around.

[Anonymous No.1431253]

>>1431245

If you're just trying to get use a floating platform (boat, kayak, raft, slab of wood, etc.) from one place to another and don't need to do recreational boating stuff then this is amazing.

>redneck way to push something

...is a compliment. A low maintenance, low cost, clever method of achieving a goal by re-purposing something you already have on hand as an engine. If a Scandinavian was doing this we'd be praising the glorious minimalism. Right now I'm thinking about a nice Milwaukee drill with one of those 12.0 Ah batteries and becoming the first person to cross the ocean by mud mixer.

[Anonymous No.1431259]

>>1431253
Haha yeah it works well for what we need it to do, if we can get that float moving 5 knots with a couple of these pushing together ill be the happiest redneck at the beach. We dont even have a destination we just use it to float out in the sound while we drink some beers and then push us back to the dock. Last year we had a neighbor who had two sea doo's and the pontoon boat they made in the 90's that you can pull a jet ski into. Well that guy came over to our place because he had to know to know what we were using to push that big float around.

Before I found the drill paddle I was trying to think of some way to rig a troller motor to the float but this was just so simple I went with the drill paddle.

[Anonymous No.1431275]

>>1431245
id be worried about getting the drill wet out on the water.

better step up your drill game
https://nemopowertools.com/product/nemo-v2-pool-spa-socket/

[Anonymous No.1431278]

>>1431275
We were a bit worried but we never dropped the drill. I was wondering if there was anything water proof but 800 bucks is way too much for this. Plus it even says fresh water only, we'll be in salt water.

[Anonymous No.1431281]

>>1415863

Use dewalt at work. Construction recycling as in people dump knocked down houses and such by me. We use them to strip metal and take things apart.

They burn out but not fast and cheapo enough.

[Anonymous No.1431286]

>>1431278
then you'll need to step up to the divers edition, rated for use 50 meters down!

https://nemopowertools.com/product/nemo-v2-divers-edition-socket/

[Anonymous No.1431289]

>>1431286
Lol its almost a grand. This has me thinking though, you could have a pretty badass snorkeling kit using this and the drill paddle to pull you around totally submerged. I bet those little things the navy seals use cost 50 grand to do the same job.

[Anonymous No.1431372]

>>1415863
Red Team all the way

[Benis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1431390]

>>1431167
What about modifying an electric weed whacker?

[Anonymous No.1431391]

>>1431390
At that point I'd probably go gas anyway, but I'm not sure about trying to mount a propeller on a weed wacker.

[Benis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1431394]

>>1431391
I wonder how these connect and how one would rig it up to the prop. The drill chuck makes it easy. But this way you don’t have to mess with a long ass shaft.

[Anonymous No.1431514]

>>1415863

Makita and DeWalt was always the goto when I was in construction, but DeWalt always had shit batteries. Even their lithium seemed to be underperforming compared to Makita.

When I did HVAC and Electrical work I always used Makita and it worked fine, never had a problem and the batteries charge fast as shit which is nice on a job site.

Of course I would have used Milwaukee if I wasn't a poorfag, their tools are top tier. I could never afford that shit though. I've been out of the construction business for a few years and my Makitas still hold up fine for diy home shit.

[Anonymous No.1431537]

>>1431057
>What the hell does that mean?

He's saying that orange is the new black.

[Anonymous No.1431553]

Is it possible to change the drill chuck on my dewalt drill?

[Benis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1431645]

>>1431537
That’s no good. I always thought Ryobi was the preferred lesbian drill.

[Anonymous No.1431673]

>>1431645
>I always thought Ryobi was the preferred lesbian drill.
Nigga, THIS is is a cordless lesbian drill.

Comes in orange, obviously

[Anonymous No.1431749]

>>1416438
>>>1415863 (OP)
>Green. If budget was no concern I'd probably use Makita but for my needs/wants Ryobi is plenty and affordable.


>Plenty because you'll replace the tool once every few jobs

[Anonymous No.1431750]

>>1431253
You're a fucking hero

[Anonymous No.1432359]

>>1431553
Yes. You can do it on any drill. Look up diagram on ereplacementparts site.

Usually they have a screw in the center. Open chuck fully, get a bit that fits well, remove screw, then clamp a large hex key in the chuck (short end in the chuck, long end out to the side) and smack the long end swiftly with a wrench or hunk of bar or whatever weighs a couple lbs that you can swing FAST because inertia holds the spindle while shock frees the chuck.

[Anonymous No.1432368]

>>1431750

A hero makes it to the other shore and raises his mud mixer over his head reveling in the cheers of the masses. An idiot dies trying.

[Anonymous No.1432396]

>>1432359
>get a bit that fits well, remove screw
The screw is almost always 'left-handed' threads.
(turn clockwise to loosen)
The chuck is almost always right-handed threads.
(whack counter-clockwise to loosen)

[Anonymous No.1432510]

>>1427783
I have this set and honestly itll hand most light to medium duty tasks. Only thing is i didnt register my batteries in time so they gave me a 3 year warranty instead of the lifetime. 4 years later they still run strong on the same batteries.

[Anonymous No.1432534]

I have a question I didn't feel warranted a thread. I'm looking to buy a new drill set (Canada so prices for tools are way higher). How much of a noticable difference is there in terms of torque, rpm and charge life from a 12v and 18v cordless drill/impact? M18 combo costs $220 here, but I saw a sale at hilti store for 12v combo for $250. My main concern is time required to screw drive as I usually use a chorded drill for drilling bore holes and have several hammer drills. All videos I've seen online don't make a comparison between different voltages, and the ones that do compare the two are comparing 2 of the same brand. Any thoughts on the matter would be appreciated.
To;dr should I spend a bit more on a hilti 12v or Milwaukee 18v better for driving screws (and the occasional benefit of having a smaller size drill)?

[Benis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1432561]

>>1432534
If you’re just driving little screws, I don’t think you will be disappointed with a 12V tool from a good company. How close are the specs? If you think you want a compact drill, get the Hilti. If you want a little more power all around, get the Milwaukee, it’s not like they are shitty tools. The M18 lineup is bretty gud tho if you’re thinking about more tools in the future.

Bur then again I’m just a shithead and have barely had a chance to use that Rigid 12V combo set I got. I just grabbed pic related to try and keep with the set so I can throw it all in the car real quick if the cat lady a few blocks away needs some help. Can’t beat it for $25.

[Anonymous No.1432612]

>>1432561
The vast majority of what I do is framing and I pre drill holes for the sparkies because spending 4 hours of drilling time saves me literally thousands. I just wanna know if. 12v can sink screws approx as fast as an 18/20v

[Benis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1432622]

>>1432561
Fuck me, I should’ve done more research. I think I might grab pic related eventually because this one box has everything for a quick job. Even has the 3/8” socket adapter and a couple drill bits. That’s great if some crying old lady calls and needs help because her TV fell off the wall.

DeWalt set was still straight for $25. Their bits have held up well.

>>1432612
How big is the Hilti battery? After hearing that, you might want the M18. The vast majority of times I see people with the 12v tools are impacts for a handful of screws or small repair or assembly stuff.

[Anonymous No.1432632]

>>1432622
I prefer those drill bits because you can throw them on an impact driver and change between sizes in half a second. I never use my regular drill anymore unless I'm worried about over torquing the fuck out of screws.

[Benis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1432651]

>>1432632
I just like it because it’s the only small case I have seen with driver bits, a square socket adapter, and drill bits all in one. Literally you need to hang a flat screen TV and somehow need to drop 2 drywall anchors in and then two big bolts into a stud? Grab the little cordless impact, drill bit for anchor hole, phillips for anchor screw, then find a socket for the bolt and you’re done.

Idk, I have so many driver bits. I should gift that DeWalt set to my girl’s dad and go get the Milwaukee one. I wanted a fresh set of drill+driver bits to go with the 12v drill/impact set where I can grab one bag and don’t have to go back and forth to the tool box a dozen times.

Pic related looked cool too with the 3 sizes of socket adapters and the long extensions. $35 for this one and I think the last pic was $30 at Home Depot.

[Anonymous No.1432652]

>>1428096
>metal everything
>except chuck
>plastic chuck

Fuck the police

[Anonymous No.1432754]

>>1432651
get the first one you posted >>1432622, you'll get far more use out of those 2" long drive bits that you can put directly into an impact driver. the short socket adapters in this set >>1432651 are useless since they cant plug straight into a 1/4" hex chuck. if you really want some of those long bit extensions for reaching into weird areas you can buy them separately.

[Anonymous No.1432762]

>>1432534
get the Milwaukee set; the Hiltis are better made, more compact and perfectly capable of doing the job you are asking of them but they are limited by their battery size and non-existent variety of 12v tools.

Hilti only makes one 12v battery size and pretty much nothing in their 12v line besides a couple brushed drills and impact drivers. at least with the Milwaukee's you will have the chance to pick up larger batteries that will last a lot longer and expand your cordless tool lineup within the M18 battery environment. at $220 Syrupbucks you are getting the cheapest M18 set but its a good place to start from.

if you want to meet somewhere in the middle look into the M12 Fuel sets, they will be more expensive but give you more power than the Hiltis in a smaller package with a wide variety of battery sizes and the biggest lineup of 12v tools in the world to pick from.

[Benis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1432831]

>>1432762
Do canucks have Home Depot? Or can they order online? I would take this over the brushed Hilti set. $30 off plus a free 6.0Ah battery. So many people get these and say they barely touch their 18V tools anymore. Plus there are some other cool M12 tools.

[Benis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1432849]

>>1432831
>>1432762
Also that Hilti stuff looks like a waste of money unless you own a shop and need fleet tools basically on lease. The Milwaukee M12 Fuel looks much better in almost every way.

[Anonymous No.1432857]

>>1429935
They're only open when their target customers are working? lol

[Benis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1432860]

>>1432857
That’s how most of those places are. I guess then the contractors can go while they are on the clock. I want to check out this place “City Electrical Supply” but they have short hours too and are open Sat like 9am-12noon. I prefer Home Depot’s hours of 6am-10pm but they should really go 5-11 with a couple 24hr stores too.

>tfw gonna be right next to Home Depot workin today
>really want muh Milwaukee impact bits
>need to return stupid big DeWalt bit set first just so I don’t feel as guilty

[Anonymous No.1432879]

>>1428684
I've used porter Cable and ridgid and porter cable is significantly better. More torque and rpm

[Anonymous No.1432891]

>>1432831
>Do canucks have Home Depot
Yes and Lowe’s. Both sell the absolute worse wood on the planet

[Anonymous No.1432896]

The 16 drawer 46" toolchest is badass, but it's 18" deep. They had a super limited edition 18 drawer 46" toolchest with impact guards and a nice towel rack and all kinds of shit that's 22" deep. It was a Black Friday/Christmas only thing and I wish I got it. This is probably the most comfy prosumer toolchest on the market and I'm pretty damn pleased to fill it with my Red Team tools, but I know if I got that limited edition one I could have fully sealed the loli in.

[Benis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1432907]

Cunt at self checkout trying to tell me I’m lookin at the wrong price...

Was a pleasant suprise seeing those two clip strips with the $19 price tag.

[Benis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1432911]

And I’ll give this one to red on this one because this is the best little all around case I have seen if you aren’t trying to carry around a million things. Yellow had one kit that was kinda close but no drill bits.

[Anonymous No.1432914]

Not a single Craftsman fag here?

[Benis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1432917]

>>1432914
That shit has been on sale lately but I don’t think I could buy it anymore. They sold the brand to Lowe’s since Sears is dying and there’s no way Lowe’s will continue to build or sell the C3 tools.

Plus that whole lineup looks so dated.

[Anonymous No.1432922]

>>1418788
>Momma Bear 1/4 impact general purpose driver from the drill combo
>Papa Bear 1/2 heavy as fuck dedicated impact
Are you telling me that the 3/8 M12 hand impact is Baby Bear Just Right for regular work? How is the trigger control/torque settings? Any issues with fucking up bolts? Been trying to justify getting one for a while.

[Anonymous No.1432926]

>>1432917
An NPC boomer told me Ace Hardware is the new Sears for Craftsman things; my friend got some heavily discounted woodworking tools as our local Sears was dying, but as with most Sears products the quality is way different than your father's days.

On that note, anyone else have a fun time convincing boomers that battery tools are good now? Father came to visit and was shocked that my tools were mostly cordless, having last purchased cordless tools in the NiCad days. He then proceeded to twist his wrist with an 18v Milwaukee hammer drill. Also had an old man contractor come to install a support beam who brought his corded Milwaukee sawzall and scoffed at my cordless one. We started doing demo on either end of a wall, and when I was done he asked to try my 18v and just used that the whole time.

[Anonymous No.1432939]

>>1432926
Had a similar experience with my roommate. He was trying to teach his friend to work on his truck while I was woodworking across the garage. They couldn't seem to budge the lugs with his old shitty air gun and he scoffed when I tossed him my half inch impact (dewalt). Needless to say, braaap braaap, and he was just sitting there all confused. Was fun to watch

[Benis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1432946]

>>1432926
Lowe’s is starting to carry some Craftsman now too. I think they bought em up mostly for the toolboxes. They have a couple socket and wrench sets and then a bunch of red toolboxes.

>>1432939
Kek. I need one of those. It’s crazy that cordless are becoming the choice over air tools too. I see the guys in my fleet shop using their Mac or whatever 1/2” impact guns over air tools all the time. Only time they break out the air line is when they need to take really tight lugs off trucks and trailers and they use the 1” IR for that.

[Anonymous No.1432958]

>>1432914
Craftsman cordless tools arnt even made my Craftsman, they are produce under license by One World Industries, one of Ryobi's sister companies under TTI. they are just older Ryobi tools painted black, the newer brushless Ryobi tools are much better than anything Craftsman put out.

[Anonymous No.1432959]

>>1432946
The best part is he said "well the battery will probably die fast. So after they were done with all four wheels, I used that battery to trim the hedges and weed the property line, then slapped it in my 20v miter and made about 30 cuts before calling it a day. He's a sore loser.

[Anonymous No.1433076]

>>1432914
My son got a multi-tool set for Christmas a few years ago.
Circular saw, recip saw, drill, 1/4" impact, charger, two batteries and a bag.
It's done well for him on the tool end. The ni-cad batteries, not so much.
They got soon got shitty useful charge time so I upgraded him to three LiPo batteries and a compatible charger.
He gets lots of use out of all of them in the shop and the new batteries made them like new tools.
They certainly aren't job-site quality but are plenty durable enough for heavy home use.

side note: I lost most of my cordless tools in a vehicle fire and while deciding which brand to go to for the new ones I bought a Craftsman drill that's just a size under your pic. (still C3 20v) because it was cheap (tool only) and I had a source for loaner battery.
A couple months back I was using it pretty hard outside the shop drilling some aluminum.
It started smoking and quit! I was glad I only had ~$20 to $25 in it.

[Benis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1433107]

>>1433076
Did you claim the tools on car insurance?

[Anonymous No.1433147]

>>1433107
No. It was an old beater van and the tools were collected over many years. I only had liability insurance.
I started with Makita for most of them. Then went with a lot of DeWalt for other tools. All were old and ni-cad powered.
When deciding on which brand to buy for replacement I considered my age (75) and how long I expected to continue working.
I settled on Ryobi because of the multitude of tools that use the same battery system and they are durable enough for the work I'll do with them.
I bought Milwaukee tools for my grandson because he needed something really durable and reliable. (and something he wouldn't be laughed at for carrying on the job - electrician)
I'm completely satisfied with the Ryobi tools I have.
I've been using them for a couple of years now with zero problems.
I have a circular saw, recip saw, multi-tool with saw blades and a right-angle drill head for it, drill, 1/4" impact, 10" bar chain saw, 22" hedge trimmer, 8" chain pole saw with extra extension, and a flashlight. I also bought a 12v Ryobi drill for when I only needed light duty, and the little 4v screwdriver for taking off cover plates for switches and outlets. That turned out to be better than expected so I usually use it when opening and closing A/C units I'm working on.

[Benis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1433177]

>>1433147
Ahh I see. Sucks you couldn’t claim retail on the NiCd tools and upgrade to 20V.

My neighbor across the street is Mr. Weekend Warrior and he keeps telling me to go with Ryobi. You can’t beat the prices on the sets when they go on sale and you can get everything for <$300.

I have lots of DeWalt NiCd and I would love to spend the money on M18 stuff because their tool line. But I kinda want to stay yellow because they sell an adapter to use the 20V Max batteries on the 18V tools. If I wait for one of the sales with an extra battery, I would like to get a new hammer drill set with like a 2.0Ah battery and then they will have deals with a 4.0Ah thrown in and that would run my old 18V sawzalls way better than the NiCd batteries.

One of the biggest reasons I keep thinking about yellow and red vs Ryobi or Porter Cable which would be better suited for my weekend warrior stuff- no heavy duty 1/2” impact wrench. I was looking at Rigid lately too because their stuff looks nice for the price and there’s always deals but they don’t have an impact that could keep up with the big Milwaukee or DeWalt either.

[Anonymous No.1433205]

>>1433177
I (burned van guy) wanted a 1/2" 20v impact mostly for tires (wheels).
I went with the super powered Milwaukee 2767-20.
I bought it on eBay for $200 new in the box delivered. (tool only)
In order to get a battery and charger, I caught the recent Home Depot dad's day tool sale for a Milwaukee 1/4" impact + charger + 3ah battery for $99 +tax.
So I got the big 1/2" impact, 1/4" impact, charger, and battery for $309.
Posted about using it here >>1430288

[Benis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1433210]

>>1433205
Yeah posts like that make me want it. One of those tools where you think it’s a lot of money to drop on something you might only use once in a blue moon, but then once you have it, you’re always grabbing it out of the toolbox.

This corded one was affordable though and saves me the trouble of using a breaker bar on wheels.

Fuck me I want to go to HF this weekend and grab that 4-drawer tool cart on sale for $99 but I need to stop buying shit.

[Anonymous No.1433219]

>>1433210
Yeah, it's not like we don't have a good impact. We have an IR in the shop that we use all the time. I also have a corded one but I wanted one for when an air hose or electrical outlet wasn't available.

'nuf 'bout me...

[Anonymous No.1434168]

>>1416125
>horrible fright

kys yourself