/fa/ - Fashion

>>12121621
lmao where did u found these ?

>>12121626
raf x adidas

>>12121621
honestly for the 150 that these cost on sale, they're not too bad. i can think of a few fits where they'd look aight

>>12121875
these look like they could have been bought from goodwill for like 5 bucks senpai, who are you kidding?

>>12121621
people are gonna buy it anyway so why even trying

>>12121918
This

These were literally made only for end of season sales because retards go "holy shit 150 for raf omg"

they're based off baseball boots he used back when he didn't design shoes so he used spray painted converse in his old shows. he's made shoes based of baseball boots like the Raf by Raf Simons sneakers, the Velcros, the Holographic Paneled sneakers, and the Matrix Spirits that's why they all have the same silhouette.

>>12121877
>>12121953
educate yourselves before shitposting.

another pic

>>12121978
raf by raf simons sneakers

>>12121982

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>>12121875
>>12121641
>>12121982
so you are pretty much buying a pair of designer knock-off converse, sounds like a great deal

>>12121998
Ironically they're better quality then actual converse

>>12121998
if you think that then you truly are an idiot.

>>12122069
aw1997

>>12121978
Don't be silly motherfucker

>>12122104
ss1998

leave newfag

>>12122141
aw1998

>>12122160
ss1999

vans were used

>>12122172
aw1999

>>12122179
ss2000

>>12122002
that's not ironic
they cost more and they're by a famous designer, how could they be worse quality?
honestly most of the ones posted here are fine, but designer canvas sneakers are never worth it. canvas never lasts very long and unlike leather doesn't vary too much in quality
except the ones in OP, those are awful

>>12122181
as2000

agreed, but then again it wasn't mainline so there's not much to expect

>>12122192
meant for >>12122185

aw2000*

>>12122192
aw2001

>>12122212
ss02

not much shoes

>>12122212
your contribution is quite interesting, but i fear its wasted on this board

>>12122223
aw02

>>12122231
ss2003

thanks, id like to think /fa/ might see these dumps and go back to actual fashion discussions every once in a while

>>12122259
aw2003

>>12122267
ss2004

not much shoes

>>12122274
Thanks for educating us on these. If you don't mind me asking, I've had a question for a while now about non-mainline designer pieces.

So what's the difference between mainline and not? Rick Owens and DRKSHDW have a similar aesthetic and some of the items are the same except for the materials. At the same time, it doesn't seem like a money grab like some other brands. Are most of them just lower quality but the same designers? Are a pair of sneakers by Ann Demeulemeester objectively better than a pair by AD Ann Demeulemeester in terms of overall construction?

>>12122274
aw2004

>>12121877
People spend $600 on golden goose. Compared to that, these arent such a bad deal.

Trust me though, I'm not buying a pair

>>12122288
ss2005

introduction of motos and velcros

>>12122282
there really aren't many differences between mainline and diffusion except for saving costs and pricing them lower. sometimes diffusion lines are introduced to make a ready to wear clothes. for example I think dior does this, someone check me on that. aesthetically, its for the most part the same they are kept as the same tone as mainline or on the other side of the spectrum to test the waters out on some newew designed items. because of lower costs and pricing the quality is sometimes affected. take a look at alexander mcqueen sneakers to puma x mcqueen sneakers, you can see the quality loss on design and construction. hope this helps

>>12122394
aw2005

converse are basically gone at this point. really wish for a higher res of this season

/fa/ is dead. Raf tries to recreate aesthetics that are associated with the youth. That is the kind of shoes people were wearing when Raf was a teen in Europe. Of course there is no real youth culture nowadays because its all shitty streetwear.

If some rapper wore these you would be all over them.

>>12122453
pretty much. but he knew that way back when. there's a reason he stopped the "youth culture" stuff around 2006 and started to go towards menswear. but his recent collections are very well done and really starting to pick up.

>>12122453
Why is streetwear not part of "youth culture"?

>>12122453
streetwear is youth culture grandpa

>>12122482
streetwear is a style defined by rappers and their 'designer' friends. famous people dictate what others should wear, essentially
old youth culture worked the other way. musicians would have a dual influencer-influencee relationship with their followers, where the musicians originally came from these emerging cultures like punk or hippiedom for example, and take cues from these to have their style more or less solidified in one of those cultures. the musicians would take ideas from a culture, and the culture would take ideas from the musicians.

>>12122482
because "for the youth" designers are hot garbage now.

from Virgil interview:
But for someone whose focus and energy are driven by the youth and his peers, an audience member asked Abloh why his pieces are too expensive for the average millennial to afford. The designer admits that he gets this question (or critique) a lot, and from the multiple answers going through his head, he managed to strike up a fair argument: "Don't let Zara and Uniqlo educate you on the price of a garment, because that's not fashion. That's like McDonald's. Your health is tied to that — a 99-cent nugget," explains Abloh. He goes on to mention the costs that come with sustaining a high-quality brand: customs and duties with shipping product, buying luxury fabric and paying employees a healthy wage, for example. "Of course my brand is inspired by the youth," says Abloh. "I wouldn't say it's directly made for the youth. It's who I am."

what he says is it's all about price and branding and his answer is just a cop out and he knows it. he knows nothing about youth culture. this is Virgil a couple years ago.

>>12122533
>implying rappers were raised in a vaccuum
>implying old rocks stars/musicians didn't have stylists
>implying you're not a "le wrong generashun" faggot

Kys

>>12122548
who are you quoting?

>>12122548
except he's right, vladimir the implyer

>>12121978
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>>12121994
Just because these shoes are really cool doesn't mean that the OP shoe isn't really bad. You can't make trash cool just by association, those shoes are fucking ugly, dude and you need to admit they are, because they're absolutely nothing like what raf normally designs, as they just look bland, processed, boring and dated, at that

You're kind of being a brand whore by defending raf like that.

>>12121877
My friend got the black ones for 70 cad

Everybody wears tshirts and hoodies. They have no youth culture, Streatwear brands printing graphics on clothes everybody wears and then charging more fore exclusivity is not the kind of culture the youth built. Its built by old men who are good at marketing and are making money off the insecurity of teens. Exploiting the need to fit in, its sad.

>>12122609
>those shoes are fucking ugly, dude and you need to admit they are
except they aren't bad or bad looking at all?

>they are nothing like what raf normally designs
did you read my posts or even look at the pictures?

>they just look bland, processed, boring and dated
did you take into consideration that they arent mainline and are an adidas collaboration? did you, again, read my posts?

>You're kind of being a brand whore by defending raf like that
I like some shoes, so now I'm a brand whore?

your logic is flawed, friend.

>>12121641
i actually like those blue and cream ones for their retro look but with how much they cost i'd rather just wear converse

>>12122002
how can you back that up? from my experience with converse i know they are a pretty decent shoes and last for a good while when being worn daily. just because its designer doesn't mean it actually has better materials

>>12121641
The yellow and blue ones are cool. Has a nice pastel tone.

>>12121641

These are actually super super on trend, give it a couple seasons and you'll see everyone wearing shits like this. If you think this looks bad you're just not with it

>>12121621
I like his Stans. Due to colorways and better quality (yes I won both normal and Raf's Stans to compare) he managed to make something differnent without changing model.
But those just look ugly imo. Rick has much better collabs and Raf's Ozweegos are also much better.

>>12121641
I like the purple ones tee bee cue aytch

on the converse thing...a lot of mens designers dont care about shoes, it seems. Yohji sells lots now but hes basically cashing in - his old shows had all the models in Docs Ricks shoes are knock off/clownish converse; same with Raf. There's something inherently affected and uncool about wearing shoes that cost more than a black market kidney ps augusta and m-moriaa make distressed vans/converse knockoffs for 2-3k - but i doubt anyone other than russian gangsters and arab oligarchs buy them

>>12122686
Those cream colored ones are actually dope.

I like the white/blue ones somewhat actually to be honest
I understand why a lot of people wouldn't though

>>12122547
fuuuuuck. how is this picture real. that shit actually happened FUCK

>>12123615
in all fairness its from 2007 or 08