/fa/ - Fashion

>>12878559
depends on where you live, really.

>>12878559
if you already have a couple black hoodies, dont buy any more. get some black crewneck sweaters, not sweatshirts, instead and buy a white button down. also some white sneakers and a pair of derbies

Cop some Eva tees?

>>12878696
Krautland, in a big city
>>12878710
I have an almost unworn grey crewneck sweater from uniqlo. It's just that I am still skinnyfat (just started doing stronglift) and only hoodies hide that. Btw I also have a light blue OCBD shirt, but I only use it for internships atm.

I just wanted some input regarding the uniqlo basics in the pic, the other stuff I got covered.
I am not aiming for some kind of /fa/-core aesthetic. I am first trying to get the most basic stuff and focus on the fit of the clothes and getting /fit/.
>>12878829
w2c? can't read the label

>>12878936
Welche Stadt? Vielleicht kann ich dir da genauer helfen.

>>12878936
>w2c?
>radio-eva.jp/shopdetail/000000000422/tshirts/page2/recommend/

>>12878559
Avoid H&M as the quality is really bad. Avoid fast fashion in general except for some basics from Uniqlo.

If you can't afford nice brands try thrifting/vintage.

>>12878951
Düsseldorf, manchmal Essen und Duisburg
ist doch eigentlich irrelevant? bestelle ja sowieso ausm Netz
>>12878952
ty

>>12878559
> need help with colour on basics
wow fa is so shit rn

get some wide trousers and maybe some cargos too~

>>12878951
>>12878962
Alright snowflakes, cut it out.

>>12878962
Hah, was ein Zufall. Bin auch aus Düsseldorf.
Also hier sind meine Empfehlungen:
>Tshirt: Blanc Essentials / Asket
>Sweater: Howlin By Morrison (save up, good comfy sweater is worth the money)
>Jeans: Dr. Denim Clark
>Shirts: Uniqlo (German online store)
>Shoes: Get Dr. Martens Mono 1651 and white Stans
Also, if above Uniqlo COS is a much better store, they have sale quite often and quality is pretty good for the price (they are like cheaper Acne Studios alternative). Def. worth a visit in Düsseldorf.

>>12878559
I associate those jackets with morrocans and turks desu and I live in the Netherlands desu dnc imo but hoodies are fine as posted in your pic

>>12878559
the hoodies are really nice quality, and very warm, ideal for german winter, keep in mind though that they are quite heavy

i need to know if i should buy this leather jacket, its on clearance. i dont own a jacket that is this color (whiskey). is ti too old manish?

>>12878959
thrifting isn't easy here, but I am going to japan next spring and I heard thrifting is great there
btw h&m being low quality is old news, my uniqlo stuff still looks new while my h&m sweaters are falling apart and look washed out
>>12878970
k
>>12878986
thanks for the recs, especially blanc essentials
do you know where to get thick heavy sweaters/hoodies tho? something like supreme or acne without the meme branding and meme price
>Get Dr. Martens Mono 1651
not my style
>white Stans
too bulky for me, getting cp's when I got more cash, not in white tho

>>12879044
>thanks for the recs
Don't get CPs. Get
http://svenssonshop.com/en/footwear/
Same quality and materials (they are being produced in the same factory). I had their GATs I'm selling right now (want to get Margiela ones).
Can't really say much about basics, I get my "simple" stuff from Our Legacy once it goes on sale. Basically my whole style is mix of Junya Watanabe/Dries van Noten/Sacai/Our Legacy/Undercover.

Any experience with these? Want to buy them off amazon but some comments there scare me. Most of them are pajeet's unreadable reviews but still.
Also any ideas what to wear with them? Track pants and some graphic tee?

>>12879055
nice, thanks

>>12878983

>>12879017
this+black v neck+faded jeans+retros= godly fit

this one?

also, the first time i'm ordering something on uniqlo. how are the sizes of the sweatshirts?

>>12879231

Order two sizes if you're not sure and return the ones that fits less good.

need a new winter jacket, this is current candidate but would be open to suggestions from Ann D / similar at similar price

>>12878559
The hoodies are cool and can be worn often in a lot of different fits. The jacket's a little doofy and probably not very functional

>>12879231
YOU LOOK LIKE A GOOD JOE

is this too ugly? Its used and cheap, and i dont know if i will regret right after buying it.

>>12878559
Dnc purple it is not a basic color

>>12879389
definitely too ugly imo

>>12879405
just about to order and this is bothering me desu
only grey and purple are available
the purple hoodie in itself looks so good, but even tho I wear almost exclusively monochrome black fits I can't think of a way of incorperating a purple hoodie...

the grey I am not really excited about desu, but might be the better choice
being a poorfag is suffering, otherwise I would just cop both

c/n

I want to put this on the sleeve of my bomber. I live in Canada though and the locals will probably think it's a Confederate flag.

>>12878970
not op but
why the need to be a dick ?

>>12879451
not like anybody cares, but copped the grey one...I hope the oversized fit looks good

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-90s-DMX-Long-Sleeve-Tee-Size-L-Black-Rap-T-shirt-Ruff-Ryders-Rare/253225176821?hash=item3af5658ef5:g:ZOQAAOSwwrtZyGln

>>12879231
disgust

Pleated cargos $21 shipped

70% wool?

>>12879693
too late. but not really. because free returns

>>12879559
No
>>12879575
Too much like a Confederate flag, cop it but expect people to approach you differently
>>12879693
No

>>12879889
>No

Why not? You clueless fuck. I look fit and amazing. fuck off That was a great cop

>>12879889
>No

Explain yourself you clueless fuck.
I am fit and those wool cargos will look on me like on a model. Who gives a shit what brand they are. They look great and 70% wool and really cheap. now fuck off

>>12879693
>>12879696
yes

>>12879696
very good cop, I'm proud of you

>>12879696
fuck that is a great cop, sick discount

>>12879916
>Explain yourself
I don't like them

>>12879930
Let us see your shoes

>>12879575
I guess that could be your thing - always explaining to people that it actually isn't the confederate flag

thinking about buying one when they come back in stock

>>12880093
Cop

>>12880093
This is bro uniform tier only cop if you're comfortable losing your individuality

>>12878559
Cop?

seriously conflicted about this
>>12880158
those colors are kinda nasty. maaaybe you could pull them off in a retro fit but I'm not sure.

>>12879417
):

pretty basic, but i just want comfy sweaters

>>12880319
the sweater isn't as nice in person

should i?

Sí or No?

C/N?

>>12878952
What is Radio Eva?

>>12880370
ya
>>12880426
nah
>>12880460
nah
>>12880535
yah but only as beaters. These are making a comeback btw

What about this?

>>12880535
i dont like this specific model, get the premium suede one

>>12880815
This, also, get em fast cause they're going up in price.

no meme, really like this, pair it with combat boots and get a punk-ish look goin, cop or not? I'm thin not skele

>>12880922
>buys meme
>no memeing

>>12879693
>>12879696
Hey man can you tell how the quality is when you receive them?

Want to get a new hoodie, already have a bunch of plain ones so getting something with print. Thoughts on either of these?

These and timbs are the only non-dadcore boots that I see recommended, are they worth getting?

>>12880998
Both are not good imo, but I'd go with fila just for the baggy look

>>12879059
Bumping the question

>>12878986
COS has really gone downhill, at least in the UK. I paid £70 for a sweater there last month and its already falling apart, inferior to Uniqlo IMO.

for 200€? so fucking expensive, but i really like the style

the polo sweater

>>12880642
Pls respond

>>12881302
>200€
>so fucking expensive
Get a job, loser.

>>12881452

kek

>>12880815
>>12880863
i can't find the premium suedes anywhere in canada so i'll probably just settle for these ones

Is Superga a good brand?

Also C/N?

>>12878559

Should i get this for a work shoe? All i need is something slip resistant, but i also have bad ankles and need good cushioning/support because i'll be on my feet all day.

Are these too tacti-cool for a casual work environment?

>>12881487
I wouldn't even touch those desu. They look like Sketchers

>>12881502

Tell me anon, are any of these better?

https://www.shoesforcrews.com/sfc3/index.cfm?changeWebsite=US_en&route=c_store.browseProductsByCategory&CategoryId=c3

aside from this there's a work and duty list on zappos then thats about it.

if you want a challenge find something with the qualities i mentioned that's not ugly. It's a limited market so its lot harder than you think.

I really want to start wearing yellow, but I don't really know how to.
Would this go together well? What kind of pants should I wear it with?

Yay - Nay?

what do yall think about rihanna x puma?
cop or not?

>>12881562
cop if you're a woman

>>12880949
its H&M, you already know the quality dude

>hit: its total shit

y/n?

>>12881551
Yellow pants
Eithee go full bruceleecore, or just cop a piece, matchy matchy doesn't look good

>>12881577
Nah I wouldn't be able to pull off full yellow; I've done same color hoodie and shoes a few times and it's pretty good, never in yellow though is that a color specific thing?

>>12881505
cop

>>12881576
Cop.

I had reservations about buying them, but once I did and used it on some fits they became my go to shoe.

Literally a 10/10 for me.

>>12881551
make the yellow one only stand out so everything else very neutral colours would be my 2c

>>12881607
nice one, thanks. Odd question but how 'big' are they? Do they make you noticeably taller?

Basically I got told I need bigger shoes because I have wide shoulders but very narrow waist, so small shoes look weird on me or some shit. Stupid, I know.

>>12881595
read the goddamn sticky

>>12881135
yes

>>12881452
what is wrong with you
>>12881307
this is dope

>>12881552
why not
>>12881576
yes also can i have sauce

>>12881656
>like a €200 basic sweater
>expensive
leave this board

>>12881608
You're saying I should wear them alone? I wouldn't know what to wear with the shoes
>>12881625
ok I'm retarded sorry

>>12881661
im not saying i like it, just telling you that 200e is a lot of money for some people

Should I cop the vans x north face

>>12881678
yes

>>12881661
>throwing money around makes you rich
stop larping fag, you aren't rich, at best you live paycheck to paycheck wasting all your money on fucking 200 bucks sweaters

Uniqlo U just got a restock, already low stock for some stuff

>>12881659
ascis gel lyte

>>12881605
w2c

>>12881659
>why not
It's not in black

How is Penfield? Is it good quality for the price because holy fuck I love this jacket.

>>12881687

This

>>12881460
Look at eBay, you might cop some suede

>>12881552
Pls help, should I get this or not? I like the design but the White only is putting me off.

>>12881478
Pls respond. I'm really on the fence on these

>>12881478
>>12882069
The gold lace holes would put me off. I think it depends what you're wearing leg wise. Other than that they're attractive shoes

>>12881576
Are these the same ones? Can anyone help?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Asics-Unisex-Adults-Gel-Lyte-Sneakers/dp/B01NCBDBJV/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1509741985&sr=8-2&keywords=asics%2Bgel%2Blyte&th=1&psc=1

>>12881542
Honestly I don't like those either. What about shoes with Vibram soles?

cop or not?


>>12880158
see this >>12880319

>>12880426
meh

>>12880535
it'll be meme but good basic shoes

>>12880922
cop

>>12881128
if u can pull this yes

>>12881307
cool. cop

>>12881576
meme

>>12881678
cop

>>12879059
those are for women. Are you a girl?

is 60 euros a reasonable price for leather gloves?

>>12882192
depends on the lining? wool, fleece, cashmere? look at roeckl for reference

>>12881228
not really, they've always been pretty shabby.
i love some of their designs, but one wash and they're fuzzy and asymmetrical
>>12881302
wait for spring/summer sale
that piece should cost about half then

>>12881742
good
go get the jacket of your dreams anon

C/N

>>12882204
cashmere blend

>>12879389

can i get just one more opinion on this?

>>12881742
i don't know anon but it's awesome i'll get it too

>>12882248
seems fair then

these pants from olive, im kinda set on them but i wanna no if any anon has bought from olive and what i should do about the sizing.

>>12880642
Anyone?

Quick time, c /n?

>>12878559
Cop those?

c/n

>>12882450
no

>>12882450
Yeah, nice shirt

>>12882450
autism

>>12882404
yes

>>12882450
"no"

>>12882174
Nah. In what way are these for women?

>>12882263
I like them

>>12880093
dont cop if youre in an american uni people will think youre a frat bro (unless you are one)

I need opinions.

>>12879389
Get them dirty and they'll look sick

got this on the way, keep or resell?

>>12882693
Resell for a higher price senpai

>>12882586
Yeah, go ahead.

>>12882140
there are better jackets like that

>>12882698
do you think they'll go up more?
not sure if it's worth holding it for a while

>>12882693
They're so awful. it's just akira art positioned in the center or center left on plain clothing.

>>12882693
>>12882722
If anything, people who are brave enough to pull it off should get the jumpsuit. Might just be because i love jump/boilersuits, but it looks pretty nice desu

>>12882445
Return them

Should i cop the flannel?
>>12882693
resell
>>12881678
pretty nice i almost copped these
>>12881605
cop

>>12882404
no

copper naught?

cop?
i need some nice tripple black beaters

>>12883173
dont fall of that edge

>>12883212
Also this. I need to buy a decent warm jacket before I leave to go travelling in December. Already have a big overcoat. I need something lighter and durable.

>>12883175
sure
>>12883105
B A S I C
>>12882751
just don't
>>12882712
sick cop
>>12882693
can't believe this crap has a resale value you can get a shirt printed just like that for what, 20 bucks?
>>12882586
no IMO
>>12882450
nah
>>12882445
no
>>12882404
yes
>>12882333
ye
>>12882233
ofcourse
>>12882192
ye
>>12882157
I like sambas better but sure
>>12882140
if it's cheap
>>12882128
no
>>12881742
penfield is good price/quality, if you love it you don't have to ask
>>12881678
>vans x north face
lmao no
>>12881625
>redditcolorguide.jpeg
>>12881605
no
>>12881576
yes
>>12881562
no
>>12881552
yes if it's not expensive, would've like it 10x better without the "weird" though....
>>12881551
black/navy adidas joggers/techfleece joggers or even navy/black/dark grey cargos would work with those 2
>>12881505
>>12881487
no just too ugly

>>12881625
Pic related plus black, white, and maybe royal blue.

>>12883219
What is that? i don't like the buttons but corduroy is always nice

c / n?
I've never owned a cardigan though. I usually just wear hoodies or a parka but this looks kinda comfy. Not sure what to wear it with.

>>12883249
Cop

>>12883219
>no IMO
why?

>>12883249
w2c?

which one? not for me, a /sinterklaas/ present

>>12883212
all white shoes don't work with such a bulky silhouette IMO
>>12883214
cop I saw someone with one of those the other day they look much better IRL
>>12883233
11shadesofgrey.jpg
>>12883234
http://shop.humanscales.se/product/olof-green-cord
ffs I just noticed it's out of stock anyways I should've pulled the trigger 2 days ago
>>12883248
>Not sure what to wear it with.
then don't spend your money on it
>>12883249
not feeling it
>>12883287
not sure it just looks a bit boring to me, also feel like there are many alternatives that look similar but nicer

>>12883361
karhu with the orange panels

>>12883173
fall of that edge and kys nazi fuck

>>12883361
All are fucking uggo, except top right.

>>12883358
https://es.zaful.com/bolsillos-con-capucha-de-bloque-de-color-p_409995.html

>>12883361
>are many alternatives that look similar but nicer
any specific suggestions?

>>12883706
no

I know it's from H&M, but is this colour OK?

>>12883885
yes

Is this hoodie color nice? I'm kind of a fan of it.

>>12882174
idiot

>>12883932
any outerwear in that color reminds me of my 5th grade teacher who was really into science and had the gayest voice ever, now works with special needs children. so i would say don't cop

>>12883932
looks like vomit, do not cop
remind me of my german teacher who only bought polos in mud and vomit colors (probably discount since nobody wanted them)

>>12883248
Cop. High cut cardigans look pretty good imo.

Should I cop? It's like $30 and I'm a fan of Gorillaz

>>12880998
I like the left more

cop y/n?

>>12884610
If you can pull them off, yeah

>>12884610
not in that color

>>12884679
what would be a better color?

>>12878559
id on pants?

on sale from bershka do they seem bulky

>>12884733
Is it me or are they too cheap? It's suspicious.

https://www.paulsmith.com/uk/men-s-taupe-funnel-neck-merino-wool-half-zip-sweater
Cop?

debating splurging on this. need a new coat for winter. I've been wanting to buy a substantial nice coat for a few years but I always talk myself out of it.

>>12881478
My exp with them was very uncomfortable. Worse than a converse for comfort I think.

I'm in between red or olive. I copped the navy one and was pleased.

>>12883212
>>12883214
Plz respond faggots.

>>12881576
Gel lyte V are goat

??

>>12885379
Absolutely not

c/n?
https://www.carhartt-wip.com/en/men-sweats-hoodies/hooded-radio-club-l-a-sweatshirt-black-187_1

>>12880998
Fila one makes you look like you're 12 and your mom does your shopping. Definitely the left one.

>>12885345
this senpai

>>12884786
IMO hard to wear casually. But looks good in the model.
>>12885019
Olive is versatile but idk if still a meme.

>>128853795
15L seems pretty small a daily bag

>>12885483
>>12885379
Last Comment was regarding you

halp

>>12885526
idk lighting is bad; nothing extraordinary

>>12884479
Y

>>12884610
N

>>12884733
Y

>>12884781
Y

>>12884786
Y

>>12885019
Red

>>12885335
Y

>>12885526
Better picture. You have no ass

€80
Have to save money for college so can't afford to go higher, just need a pair of black boots to wear casually, with jeans etc etc

Cop?

>>12881551
depends on your skin colour still. dont forget.

>>12885623
Don't ask then. I wouldn't buy them, so yeah

c/n?

>>12885751
yes

>>12880922
What style of jacket is this?

adidas x pusha T

able to get it for 1/3 of retail (~50$)

on the fence since it feels kinda bulky for an all black shoe.
3m details on the midsole are cool tho

should I?

>>12885769
Can you repeat that in coherent English please? :)

What are the quality on those Uniqlo hoodies like? I might buy the plain black one for layering. Are they small fits?

>>12885799
funnel neck parka I guess

>>12885801
Don't ask it here.

>>12878559
https://www.grailed.com/listings/2637703-Isamu-Katayama-Backlash-Leather-toggle-cut-sew-Tshirt-Japan y/n? could it work in a monochrome fit?

>>12885810
Thank you!

>>12885811
Y not
Didn't think there was a minimum price that allows you to ask, hasn't ever been a problem before

>>12879131
>> v neck, faded jeans, retros

WELCOME TO 2011

got my eye on some puma disc zips

c/n?

cop or nah

>>12885883
no

imo most midnight studios just looks like trend-conscious hot topic that caters to kids who just heard sex pistols

Cop or not? On sale for 100€
Not a fan of martens but these look pretty good.
How do martens fit?

>>12882712

Me

It's a 100% polyester jersey and I don't play sports or anything

Should I still buy it?

>>12886049
they're tts but that material looks awful dnc

>>12878559
Are there any other fedora-y items of clothing you should avoid? I think we all know about novelty t shirts and stuff, but what sportscoats or peacoats? Are they the fedoras of the torso? Etc etc

>>12882712
W2c?

>>12885883
Get Undercover or Raf Simons if you want something edgy. MS is not only Hot Topic tier, but also a borderline theft of Raf's and Jun's designs.

>>12886067
Peacoats for sure, any long coats are generally bad unless you're at least 6 feet tall, that goes for a lot of things desu and I'm 5'10...
Varsity jackets are suicide
There's more but most is in the sticky
Basically just avoid anything that makes you look like you're trying to be a movie character

>>12886156

> Peacoats for sure, any long coats are generally bad unless you're at least 6 feet tall

bullshit, it's about your individual proportions


> Varsity jackets are suicide

no, varsity jackets are fine if they are minimal in color and fit well, case in point: https://imgur.com/IwbBi4n

>>12886065
apparently it's "PU coated split with a fine Geometric emboss". Kinda hoping it'll be good for fall weather-
The regular leather one doesn't come with the white sole, which i like

>>12886156
>long coats are generally bad unless you're at least 6 feet tall,
Bullshit. Grow a spine

>>12886156
Long coats and varsity jackets are really in style man

>>12886072

https://kith.com/collections/kith-x-adidas-soccer-season-2/products/kith-x-adidas-soccer-goalie-jersey-flamingos

if you're not the two available sizes you're gonna have to pay resale, which looks like ~200$

>>12886218
>Grow a spine
exactly, you need to grow if you wanna wear them

>>12878936
if u need sweaters to hide it u prolly more than skinnyfat. skinnyfat just means skinny w no abs

>>12886233
Ok. Whatever, sometimes i just think this height autism is what is keeping most people here from experimenting

>>12885781
Nope

>>12882712
I copped this one, really excited

>>12882333
wtc?

>>12886280

agree with this. can't wrap my head around the defeatist attitude on this sub – turning down stuff without even trying them due to a stranger telling them they can't lmfao

+1 for Dali

>>12885751
>>12885781
>>12885800
>>12885812
>>12885847
>>12885857
>>12886049
no

>>12886320
nice

>>12885612
>You have no ass
fucc u

>>12885539
yea the spots are a bit wild in that store.

>>12885800
for 50$ yes

>>12886441

it was actually less than that now that I checked, ~$35. it's up for auction but the listning has been up for weeks without bids so I'll prob get it for listing price

>>12886595
nice
w2c?

?

>>12886595
w2c

I have the wardrobe, trying to find cheaping guidi backzip alternatives. Should I cop these? 400$

>>12880922
Bought one off kommandostore.com a while back and it fits very large. It looks good undone but when it's zipped up it doesn't fit my more muscular frame very well.

>>12886627

>>12886631

>>12886599
>>12886610
ok ok it was a single one on grailed and I just bought it because you guys made me paranoid, it 's 100% wool and only $31 including shipping btw, was a listing for 4!!! months :>

I'll give you 2 other cool ones from the same seller though that I didn't get, he's got a ton of good shit

https://www.grailed.com/listings/2754631-Unknown-Primark-The-Muppets-Mens-S-Jumper-1415
https://www.grailed.com/listings/2698231-Fila-Fila-Mens-38-M-Sweatshirt-Green-86

>>12886631
This is nice

>>12886653
>https://www.grailed.com/listings/2698231-Fila-Fila-Mens-38-M-Sweatshirt-Green-86

No one buy this, I want to cop it. Thanks

>>12879059
Definite cop. What are they called?

>>12886872

Fila Disruptor

Is Target's Merona replacement any good? I need some basic sweaters and saw they had some cable knits.

>>12886428
washboard
>>12886595
yes, it looks like you already bought so ill just reassure you that it was a good purchase
>>12886607
sure why not
>>12886617
yes


these pants for $92

>>12887236
Look is nice but basic for 92$, cop if u can afford desu

Unironically tempted.

>>12887384
i wish he didn't add asshole shipping charges for europe

>>12880093
I have it and it's amazing

>>12881478
it's a meme shoes from a few years ago. don't buy

>>12879059
They're great to walk in, but they're VERY bulky in size, it's not a slim shoe. So be aware of this when you buy them.

>>12887508
Thanks for the reply, man! Bought them already. Can't wait for them to arrive.

>>12887541
congrats on your fat nigger shoes

>>12887236
w2c? Image search gave a bunch of billabong and element results

>>12887555
red shoes? a bit faggy dontcha think? i remember being called out for that when i wore red gazelles at 10/11 yo

dont let me get you down anon

>>12887563
Red shoes = Faggot? Jesus. Are you sure you aren't still 11 years old?

>>12887594
i wish

>>12881128
Only if you don’t live in America

>>12887555
They look nice

>>12879294
you realize that's going to look horrible in a human body right?

>>12887639
How would you even see it when it's in a human body?

>>12885623
Had a pair of these . Awesome ad fuck. Used them till they fell apart

>>12880922
as a german i wish these came with a noose

>>12881128
>These and timbs are the only non-dadcore boots that I see recommended, are they worth getting?
theyre okay, dont pay too much

>>12887558
whoisjacov

SSS reps

>>12887741
mmM quite exquisite.. my dear

fake fake gucci

>>12888020
kop it

fake goochie best goochie

GATs

>>12888037
very nice, w2c?

sound or unsound?

>>12887236
>washboard
what

>>12888007
yea cop and share source

>>12888007
fucking lol

>>12887541
Cheers m8, hope they'll look hella dope on you

c/n?

Plan on getting this and taking it to the tailor so it fits well.

Cop or narr

a

>>12878559
C/N?

>>12878829
Cop

go this as a gift, can it work with something ?

>>12886156
Bro I'm like 5'10" and get nothing but compliments on my coat. As long as it doesnt fall below the knee and fits your chest and shoulders you're gold.

c/n?

>>12888112
yeah i'm excited desu

>>12889580
instant cop, gonna buy these too in 3 days
>>12888037
guys, where to cop these gats?

c/n

C/N?