/fa/ - Fashion

what's a good watch if you want to show off status and wealth but you don't care about watches? 4 figures max

>>13921611
>what's a good watch if you want to show off status and wealth but you don't care about watches
A gun.
4 u

>>13921611
Obviously Rolex.
It's quintessentially what you described.

Repeating my question on this new thread. I’m trying to understand why do people dislike/hate the Royal Oak? If you hate it, is it all of the models in the Royal Oak line or is it a specific model? Personally, my all time favourite is the original RO, reference 5402. It’s the thinness of it for me, the vintage Audemars Piguet text, and of course the petite tapisserrie. The hands and indices perfectly matching the thinness of the monobloc case.

>>13921629
I don't "hate" Royal Oak but I definitely find them one of the most unimpressive watches, along with the basic Nautilus. Both of them could pass for $30 chinese watches if they didn't have their heritage attached. I know in their case it's a lot more about what's under the hood, but visually they look massively underwhelming, especially when you look at other luxury watches in the same price range.

>>13921629
The ref you posted would actually be a handsome watch imo if they took those dumb ass screws out of the bezel, if the crown didn't look like an oversized bolt and the integrated bracelet didn't look quite so 70's. I'm not really a fan of Gente's design language anyways so I don't really like the nautilus either.

>>13921629
7mm thin thanks to the 3,4mm calibre 2121.

>>13921641
I don’t agree with you with it looking like a 30$ watch. I don’t think it’s underwhelming either, it’s a polarising design.

>>13921641
The screws are part of its identity, take it away and you’ll have a Nautilus. The rest of the Royal Oak just look extremely gaudy to me, it’s like having a dinner plate with a hamburger on your wrist. As you can tell, I’m not a fan of thick watches at all.

>>13921696
Close up.

>>13921703
A ROO for comparison.

>>13921703
A 15400 to make it fair. The 5402 just looks so much more refined even though it’s the original. In comparison, modern Royal Oaks look quite bastardised.

Should i? for like $200

>>13921629
retarded contrarians
anyone who buys the quartz version is a retard
>paying that much for a quartz
never knew tgv had that much influence

>>13921629
I don't know if people "hate" it.
It was an extremely seminal design, and it's uncompromisingly a luxury watch, unlike Rolexes for instance that used to be tool watches but are now luxury abominations in many ways.

It's very nicely made too, they use the spinning tin plate polishing method invented by Grand Seiko ("zaratsu"), so they're one of the few Swiss watches that come close to Grand Seiko quality, but with the Swiss prestige.

The way the dial is made (guilloche) is pretty neat too.

However, this was the watch that sparked the whole "luxury mechanical sport watch" thing that still dominates the watch market to this day.
It saved mechanical watches, but also made them objects of snobbery.

>>13921717
Forgot the photo.

Another wrist shot of the 5402. Fits perfect under the cuff.
>>13921719
What? And who is tgv?

>>13921720
I’m not falling for your Seiko bait. “Few Swiss watches that come close to Grand Seiko quality.” Just lol.

>>13921733
Did you read the part about the spinning tin disk?
I'm not talking out of my ass.

>>13921738
I’ve seen how the ROs are manufactured. Can you cite where AP learned a case polishing method from Seiko?

>>13921723
It's a beautiful watch that is very popular and the internet is full of retared contrarians and poorfags
TGV is some retard who caters who the delusional crowd who need reassurance the shitters they buy are good choices

>>13921733
Don't listen to that retard btw, this general if full of delusional seiko autists

>>13921747

>>13921720
>unironically typing 'zaratsu polishing'
LMFAO fucking kys, no one will ever rate that garbage higher than an AP, Rolex or anything else

>>13921611
>show off status and wealth
>4 figures max
LOL

>>13921768
APs are made to similar standards as GS.
Rolex is definitely a tier below GS in many finishing areas.

>>13921772
Rolex is nigger trash

>>13921747
>Can you cite where AP learned a case polishing method from Seiko?
Like they'd ever admit to it lol.

>>13921776
and it's still better than any grand shitter, delusional nip obsessed autists

>>13921794
How?

>>13921772
>Rolex is definitely a tier below GS in many finishing areas.
Complete bullshit. I own several GS and Rolex and that's simply not true. Stop trying to make out as if your personal opinion is somehow fact.

>>13921767
So you see a similar machine and immediately assume Seiko did it first and Audemars learned from them? Why am I even replying to you, I’ve told you before, I’m not falling for your bait. >>13921772
No matter how hard Seiko tries, it will always be a shitter brand. The name Seiko just doesn’t do it.
>>13921781
You’ve just blindly stated Audemars Piguet learned this method from Seiko. Hitchen’s razor - “That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.”

>>13921802
Rolex doesn't even have bevels on its cases anymore.
Tons more (manual) finishing work goes into GS than Rolex.

>>13921805
>So you see a similar machine and immediately assume Seiko did it first and Audemars learned from them?
GS invented the spinning tin disk, and that's a (variation of) a spinning tin disk in that AP pic.

>No matter how hard Seiko tries, it will always be a shitter brand. The name Seiko just doesn’t do it.
lol

>>13921802
Complete bait too and we’re failling for it. But imagine Rolex having a second line called “Grand Rolex” or A. Lange & Söhne having another line called “Grand A. Lange & Söhne”

>>13921805
>>13921802

>>13921812
Cite the source where Seiko invented it.

>>13921629
I just find the looks to be quite dated and unremarkable. I don't hate it I just would never pay that for it in a million years.

>>13921805
Don't engage the delusional seiko retards. One of them thinks a nice bottle of wine and fine dining is a waste, goes on about growing potatoes.
These are the kind of delusional poorfags you're dealing with. Tell us more about how ROs are manufactured

>>13921718
How many times will you post this? Just buy the piece of shit.

Where the diesel watches at though?

>>13921794
Not the Seiko guy, just saying that Rolex is literal nigger trash.

>>13921819
Cope more. Funny how Seiko fans always try to justify how ”grand” their Seiko is. With luxury Swiss pieces, you just know it is without ever having go “b-but!”

>>13921832
You're the one having to do the coping and the "b -but"-ing after seeing this: >>13921819

I LOVE my g-shock guys!

Is this the board for trust fund kiddies?

>>13921840
>implying you've proven anything to him with that mspaint job
lmao your delusion is hilarious, no one will ever rate the grand shitter (which you dont even own or can afford) higher than a true luxury watch

>>13921852
You can look up the source vids yourself.

PETITE TAPISSERIE

>>13921819
>Look mom I'm trolling!

>>13921858
They're real pics.

>>13921861
I can tell it's a real pic by the pixels.You win, no one will ever buy a Rolex ever again because how can reality compare to an image posted on the internet.

>>13921869
We were talking about difference in quality.

>>13921722
nice overhang bro

>>13921819
That top right image just blows me away.

>>13921781
>seiko invented the lapping disc

You sick from lapping up seiko's marketing feces yet?

Imagine actually believing the Swiss are copying the Japs.
>>13921878
It’s the terrible 15400, the 5402 is perfection.

>>13921884
They invented that application of it yes.

>>13921892
>>13921856
>>13921805
>>13921733
>>13921722
>>13921723
this watch is terrible. why does every modern celebrity uses this?

god to love marketing i guess

>>13921901
You may not like the design but its an amazing watch.

>>13921901
>t. the poors

>>13921901
You might be thinking of the other more modern (bastardised) version of the Royal Oak. Look closer, this is vintage from the ‘70s.

MUH SEIKO INVENTED POLISHING

https://www.grand-seiko.com/us-en/special/9f9s9stories/vol2/2/

Fuck yeah. Camo gshock niggas. Drunk af.

>>13921944
Nothing wrong with Gshocks nigga.

>>13921941
Lol

5402. Just right.

1680 Red Sub with a Mark II dial.

Quick size comparison between SKX and Baby Tuna, my niggas.

MVMT watches are so beautiful. I just ordered this automatic model and I cannot wait for it to arrive in the mail.

>>13922015

>>13921967
i lve youj

>>13921944
Nice beanie

>>13921609
Watches collections are for 40 years old wagecucks who found nothing else to spice up their life and who are already dead inside.

>>13921941
And what were the Sallaz machines used for before Hayashi Seiki?

>>13921941
>>13921969
LMFAO grand shitter poorfags who can't even afford a grand shitter BTFO

Kind of late but

>>13921170
Hobbies are not about making money. They’re about having fun and caring about something.
If thats your endgoal then just get a better job.

>>13922137

>>13921969
His boss isn’t a watch guy

>>13921969
>Chinese richtard enamored with Euro luxury
Wow how unexpected.

>>13922250
>chinese
Probably hates Japan too

>>13922137
yah betta realize i'm wearing sesh on that hoodie

I'm starting to think I'll never be happy with a watch for more than a month or two. I buy, wear for a bit then sell.
My favourite watch is a vintage Seiko quartz which doesn't keep time any more and I've owned a Speedmaster which I sold 6 months later.
Pls halp. Starting to think this whole watch hobby is just a way to distract myself from my depression.
The perfect watch doesn't exist.

>>13922282
Buy a Rolex or a Grand Seiko
And start seeing a therapist

>>13922225
>>13921941
Seiko was the first to front-rotating machines on watch cases.
And that's one of the aspects you can see Audemars Piguet copying here: >>13921767

Nobody had mirror polish like GS before GS.

Compare the polishing on an RO from the 70s with the Zaratsu-like polishing on modern ROs.
There is no comparison.

>>13922303
You keep saying Seiko was the first yet I haven’t seen any source to back up your claim. Keep sucking the Jap noodle.

>>13922301
I need a new hobby. At least I'm over the expensive watch thing. It's retarded to have something worth over £1000 on your wrist.

>>13922303
Zaratsu is „Sallaz” in Japanese. And what is Sallaz? Sallaz is Gebrüder Sallaz AG - Präzisionsmaschinen-Fabrik, based in Grunchen, Switzerland and was founded by brothers Arno and Bruno Sallaz in 1920, hence „Gebrüder”.

It literally means Sallaz Brothers. They produced various machinery including lapping machines, or „Lapidaire”. Swiss lapping machines first built and used in Switzerland. But go ahead and delude yourself by saying Seiko was the first and the Swiss are just copying them.

>>13922390
Grenchen, Switzerland****

>>13922303 #
Zaratsu is „Sallaz” in Japanese. And what is Sallaz? Sallaz is Gebrüder Sallaz AG - Präzisionsmaschinen-Fabrik, based in Grenchen, Switzerland and was founded by brothers Arno and Bruno Sallaz in 1920, hence „Gebrüder”.

It literally means Sallaz Brothers. They produced various machinery including lapping machines, or „Lapidaire”. Swiss lapping machines first built and used in Switzerland. But go ahead and delude yourself by saying Seiko was the first and the Swiss are just copying them.

>>13922402
I wonder what that plate says.

>>13922430
Oh. Sallaz. The Japs are literally using Swiss machines and yet it’s the Swiss that’s copying the Japs.

https://youtu.be/IhsXrjdiMaA

Why haven't you watched this IWC gem yet?

>>13922332
You're not depressed, you're just a
P O O R B O I

>>13922137
A box full of fucking shitters

>>13922458
Not really mate. When I had my Speedmaster it was dumb. I'd go climbing and be worried about leaving it in the locker. I would be scared to do my cycle commute whilst wearing it. It's not that I can't afford to lose £2500, it's just a lot of money to lose on an object that's easily stolen or broken.

>>13922332
Buying things is not a hobby.

>>13922498
Exactly - "collecting" watches isn't a hobby. I've had a dabble in modding but it's not like you can do that on a regular basis.

>>13922438
So here’s two scenarios:

1: The Swiss invented the lapping machine for literally no reason at all. Some random watchmaking Japs found themselves in Switzerland, saw a Sallaz lapping machine and thought to themselves, „Ah! Ret’s use this to porish our watches.”, bought them and brought them back to Japan.

Or

2: Swiss watchmakers had contracted Gebrüder Sallaz to fabricate lapping machines so they could use it for their watches. Somehow through the watchmaking grapevine, the Japs heard and found out about this machinery being used by Swiss watchmakers, so they bought them to try it out. Fast-forward, now it’s 2018 and they’re using a Japanese-ised German last name „Sallaz" > Zaratsu as a marketing meme.

Which scenario is more likely to have happened?

>>13922510
I feel you, it's hard finding something you really like when you obcess with every new thing you find and exhaust it to no end.

>>13921611
Two-tone datejust

what do you guys think of sturhling watches

>>13922331
Grand Seiko was the first to apply this level of mirror polish to watch cases. At the very least on any serial production scale.
Don't take my word for it, look it up for yourself.

Honestly, the notion that this is somehow news to you is pretty baffling.

Why don't you start for instance by checking out some Watchbox YT videos featuring Grand Seikos. He's a massive Euro watch fan, but he constantly compares GS to Swiss watch brands like Rolex and even Patek.

>>13922512
>>13922438
>>13922430
>>13922402
And what were those Sallaz machines used for before the Japanese started using them?

>>13922566
„Seiko was the first...”
Citation needed.

>And what were those Sallaz machines used for before the Japanese started using them?

Read
>>13922512
>>13922512
>>13922512

>>13922458
Ok trust fund baby.

>>13922332
It’s really not once you’re used to it.
You can either enjoy nice things in life or you can worry about sunken cost til you die.

>>13922576
>„Seiko was the first...”
>Citation needed.
Well name some Swiss watches that had this level of case polish in serial production prior to Grand Seiko.

>Read
>>>13922512
>>>13922512
>>>13922512
It's pretty important.

Even if those machines were actually built specifically for finishing watch cases in Switzerland, that still does not mean they were used anyway near like how and for what Grand Seiko started using them.

You seem really upset btw.
You should know that even Philippe Dufour says Japanese finishing gives the Swiss a run for their money.

>>13922589
You asserted your claims, low-hanging bait, with no citations whatsoever yet you’re turning this around on me. Seiko will always be a shitter brand, there’s just no luxurious ring to Seiko even if you add „Grand” to it.

Shit, Grand Shit, still shit.

>>13922606
Why are you so angry though?

>there’s just no luxurious ring to Seiko even if you add „Grand” to it.
Yeah, you said as much earlier.

You're just a massive brand snob.

>>13922606
>You asserted your claims, low-hanging bait, with no citations whatsoever
See >>13921819

Or if you really want to cry, how about a little Patek action, see pic.

I'd like to buy a watch for my gf who never wears a watch. Looking for something with a clean design, preferably <$50. Is there anything in this category worth it at all? Or should I buy something else and persuade her to buy a Timex at ~$80?

>>13922657
>gf who never wears a watch
>clean design, preferably <$50
Any nasty cheap shitter you can find, bitches love nasty cheap piece of shit shitters.
Just make sure it's lightly coloured and gold tone or something.

>>13922657
Pic related would be the only thing in that price category that I'd ever consider.

Anything analog in that price range is going to be complete shit no matter what the brand.

>>13922686
no fucking way im buying her this desu

>>13922691
Anything else in that price range is going to be pretentious wannabe shit.

>>13922589
>>13922613
>why are you so angry
Literal female arguing tactics
He wrecked you faggots, now fuck off with your grand shitters

does anyone actually have one of these?

>>13922709
That specific Seiko 5 or just any Seiko 5?

>>13922703
Yea, he sure wrecked us with his rock-solid "Seiko doesn't sound expensive enough" logic, and stubborn denial of photographic evidence.

In truth, his precious "muh luxury" brands get the snot beaten out of them by Japanese workmanship and attention to detail.
Even the living god of Swiss watchmaking Philippe Dufour calls the Swiss out on it.

>>13922716
specific one

40mm IS TOO BIG BUT 37mm IS TOO SMALL WHAT DO I DO?!?!

>>13921629
I don't care for the dial so much but I like the lines of the case, how sharp it all looks

>>13921720
>they're one of the few Swiss watches that come close to Grand Seiko quality

Imagine being this much of a braindead weeb

>>13922754
Well, in the serially produced sports watch category.

>>13922718

Here's your original claim

>they use the spinning tin plate polishing method invented by Grand Seiko ("zaratsu"), so they're one of the few Swiss watches that come close to Grand Seiko quality, but with the Swiss prestige.

>Invented by Grand Seiko

We've established that Zaratsu is just a Japanesised „Sallaz" and Sallaz is Gebrüder Sallaz AG, precision machine fabricators in Grenchen, Switzerland.

Zaratsu is not a Seiko invention, it's just a Jap marketing buzzword for lap polishing. The Japs DID NOT invent lap polishing. You're acting that before the Japs used the lapping machine, the Swiss had no idea what it was nor how to use it.

Is it true that Vincero, MVMT, Daniel Wellington and Paul Rich make the best best watches? They keep popping up on my instagram feed so they must be good right? I don’t really know much about watches, please help me /wt/. I especially like the Vincero and I am tempted to buy one

>>13922774
https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

>>13922774
Vincero is alright, they use the same strategies as the other fashion watches, but to actually provide you with quality instead of scamming you.

What's the cheapest way into Rolex? Vintage Oyster Perpetual? Vintage Air King? What decade? What reference?

I just want to be one of the cool guys, /wt/.

Based Grand Seiko rustling the jimmies of Swisscucks lmfao

>>13922789
An old air-king is probably as cheap as they get last I checked.

>>13922793
>DAT DIAL
Based Seiko

5402BA.

>>13922767
>the machine is the same thing as the method
Nobody polished cases like Grand Seiko started doing.
The machines existed, but the Japanese revolutionized their use.

GOD TIER:
ArchieLuxury

OKAY TIER:
Watchfinder & Co.
Caseback Watches
Nick Shabazz

ANNOYING CVCK TIER:
Take Time w/ Patrick Marlett
Theo & Harris

SUBVERSIVE JEW TIER:
The Time Teller
Federico Talks Watches
Roman Sharf
Marc Goldberg

BOOMER TIER:
Watch Repair Channel
Watch Time LA
Nutnfancy

BARGAIN BASEMENT TIER:
Teddy Bulbasaur
24 Hours At A Time
Just One More Watch
The Casual Watch Reviewer

SHIT TIER:
The Slender Wrist
Armand The Watch Guy
Perth WAtch

NASTY CHEAP FUCKER TIER:
The Urban Gentry

>>13922789
Anything like that is going to be like a 36 or smaller which will probably look embarrassingly small unless you have small wrists

>>13922789
Oysterquartz

>>13922797
>look up vintage Air-Kings on Ebay
>"ORIGINAL GREEN CASEBACK STICKER"
>dial has damage

>>13922820
Oysterquartz's aren't that cheap to be honest. Depending on condition they still fetch 4k give or take.

>>13922814
>Nick Shabazz
good lad

>>13921611
If you want to do it in a serious manner its 5 digits, low price rolex are around 10k and an AP is 20 minimun brand new at least, but how can you show wealth with used watches?

but if you want to show if in like a ghetto or the slums, pic related is 4,850, BROKE BOY

>>13922836
They brought back the wave dial?

>>13922836
>>13922811
>Nobody polished cases like Grand Seiko started doing.

Yeah, the Swiss had no idea what the lapidary machine is for.

>The machines existed, but the Japanese revolutionized their use.
Revolutionised how? As if the Swiss didn't know what black polish was. The Swiss didn't learn watchmaking nor case finishing from the Japs, period. You keep moving the goalposts, I'm done with you and your baits.

>Swiss watch God teaches japs how to do shit
>reeeeeee japs are the greatest

>>13922811
>>13922842
you guys are seriously autistic both of you shut the fuck up

“Zaratsu” is so fucking annoying. Audemaru Pigeru. Weebs

>>13922814
Reminded me to subscribe to 24 Hours At A Time, thanks!

>>13922872

>>13922842
>Yeah, the Swiss had no idea what the lapidary machine is for.
They didn't use it like GS did, that's for sure.

>Revolutionised how? As if the Swiss didn't know what black polish was.
To the Swiss, black polish is for movement parts only.

>The Swiss didn't learn watchmaking nor case finishing from the Japs, period.
>You keep moving the goalposts
The fact that you said these two things back to back is absolutely amazing.

Now stop being this publicly butthurt.

I'm unsure of my watches. I think I need a silver one with a white face. The left one is 40 mm and the right is 36 mm

>>13922896
>I'm unsure of my watches.
I'm not, they're shitters.

Ultimate tier:
>ALS
>FP Journe

High tier:
>Patek
>Audemars
>Vacheron

Boutique luxury:
>JLC
>Zenith
>Blancpain
>Richard Mille
>Breguet

Rolex tier:
>Rolex

Mainstream luxury:
>Omega
>Breitling
>IWC
>Panerai
>Cartier
>Piaget
>Tudor
>Chopard
>TAG Heuer

Shit tier “luxury”:
>Oris
>Longines
>Bell & Ross
>Rado
>Raymond Weil

Forgotten tier:
>Girard Perregaux
>Ulysse Nardin
>Roger Dubuis
>H.Moser
>Glashutte

Meme tier:
>Grand Seiko
>Hublot
>Frederique Constant
>Nomos
>Mont Blanc
>Bremont

>>13922901
Just curious. can you tell me what brands or models are not "shitters"?

>>13922908
Most brands are shitters

Confirmed non shitter brands:
Patek, Rolex, Audemars, ALS, Zenith, Vacheron, Blancpain, JLC & Breguet

>>13922908
That cheap? Casio, Citizen and Seiko are probably the only brands.

>>13922918
If I don't want to spend a lot of money, would something like this be acceptable to wear out of the house or does it look funny?

>>13922925
Embarrassing watch

>>13922925
Tell us more about you and why you want a watch.

>>13922916
Add Omega (or at least the Speedmaster MAN ON THE FUCKING MOON) to that list.

>>13922932
I don't like my other ones and think it makes a good accessory. My clothes are all shit though maybe I should start there. I have a difficult time wearing anything other than a pullover and jeans

>>13922925
orient is just kinda silly looking

>>13922939
budget?

>>13922942
what would you buy if you wanted one that looks normal, goes with all outfits, and isn't gonna break the bank

>>13922944
uhh 200-300?

>>13922950
sary057?

>>13922908
Don't feed trolls.

>>13922956
Not a troll but I have terrible taste and am gonna get some answers then never come back

>>13922891
You're the only asshurt one, he's absolutely right
No one cares or will ever really care about grand shitter. They didn't invent anything and it's already been proven that "zaratsu" polishing is just a nip bastardization of a non nip word
kys

>>13922955
hmm thats 500 CAD on amazon. gonna have to keep looking. thanks

>>13922948
Citizen Stiletto with the white face and Roman numerals
It's like $250

>>13922961
k

if you guys had to pick one of these which one would you go for
forums redflagdeals com/lukewarm-watch-deals-seiko-citizen-casio-victorinox-bulova-44-396-2247024/#p30241905

>>13922977
They all look cringy.
I suppose one of those chunky digitals is OK

>>13922965
>CAD

How about this bad boy

>>13922980
Really? they look the worst to me.

>>13922977
Yes, no, no, sure, yes, no, yes, no for the rest. But a protrek is decent too imo

>>13922994
Waveceptor isn't terrible with I suppose

>>13922987
I suggest waiting a bit and watching and learning a bit more.

I nearly bought a similar watch after only reading up on the topic of watches for a few weeks, and boy am I glad I waited.

Why don't you own a mechanical chronograph, anon?

>>13923001
I wouldn't buy that one, too big and the face is kinda too, I dunno, 'classic'? I kinda like this one though. It would be a hell of a splurge though...

>>13922925
>>13922987
https://www.longislandwatch.com/Orient_AC00005W_Watch_p/ac00005w.htm
$109, can't ask for cheaper than that

>>13923010
oh yeah that one is on sale for 119 CAD right now. Unfortunately I can't get it in white...might consider buying it from there.

>>13923006
That's unironically a good first watch.
Don't go crazy though if you can't afford it.

>>13923005
But I do.

>>13923016
Hey that's fucking neato
Post more pictures anon
What's the bpm?

>>13923006
dont waste money on that/ save and buy something nicer than that shit

>>13923015
not so much of an affording as much of being responsible. It's tempting but I think I will stick with that 2nd gen bambino until I decide watches are really something I can wear.
>>13923010
thanks for the link. I really did want this one in white but they were sold out

>>13923016
Also what's the purpose of the 0-100 marker?

>>13923025
Has a lemania 1873 in it, so it runs at 3Hz.
>>13923034
It's a decimeter, in case you want to measure fractions of a minute as a percent.

>>13923005
I do

>>13923033
>not so much of an affording as much of being responsible. It's tempting but I think I will stick with that 2nd gen bambino until I decide watches are really something I can wear.
The bambino is nifty alright, very well made for the price and something of a minor icon of cheap but good mechanical "dress" watches.

I suggest getting that on sale, and in a year or two checking out (personally handling) something like that srpb77 you posted.
A lot of things will suddenly start to make sense.

>>13923010
Thanks anon! super stoked

Is the quartz collector anon here?
Redpill me on electric / transistor watches.
How reliable are they, hows the servicialibity (non tuning fork) etc?

My grandfather was given a gold Bulova Acutron by his employer, General Motors, on the 25th anniversary of his employment. That was in 1973. He wore the watch for over 30 years, replacing the battery whenever it stopped keeping time, until one day, 5 years ago, a jeweler broke it... Papa kept the watch in a drawer as a keepsake, despite it not being functional.

My Papa is no longer with me, he passed away in 2016.

Today I picked up his watch from my watchmaker, who happened, out of sheer luck, to be one of the last graduates of the Bulova school of watchmaking. It's like new.

The watch isn't worth much money, a few hundred dollars at best, and it's not especially fashionable. It is a horological oddity, a tuning fork movement, a relic of the past... not a mechanical swiss masterpiece, and it isn't going up in value... but it was His watch... and now here it is, humming away with that faint tuningfork buzz, on my wrist... It is my most cherished possession, and my all-time favorite watch.

>>13923045
Whoah, slow down. What's your wrist circumference?

You want to be sure you're not getting an undersized/oversized watch for your arm. Getting a good fit is pretty important.

>>13923057

should i get this?
its a used swiss army, 36mm, a size i prefer
it's in working condition but it could use some polishing

>>13923057
That's cool as fuck
Fucking whore stepgrandmother took my gramp's watches from me
Keep it close, well done getting it repaired

>>13923056
oh I didn't think of that. I saw it was 40.5 mm so I went for it. I think my wrist is 6.5 inches?

>>13923051
Non-transistorized electric watches (like the Hamilton) are a huge pain to keep running, I'd avoid them. Later-generation transistorized electric watches aren't too bad, I've had pretty good luck with them. Cosmotrons are what I'd consider the best place to start, specifically the 7803a. Sweephand's blog is an excellent writeup. Serviceability of these has been pretty painless for me.
https://sweep-hand.org/the-x8-cosmotron/

The Hungarian watchmakeranon has also posted some service stuff with Seiko Elnix, so they're probably fine too. I've been considering getting a Lip R27, which I've heard good things about. But start with cosmotrons on yahoo jp.

>>13923056
just under 7 inches

>>13923069
Well, I think you could pull it off, but it's pushing it. One upgrade to the bambino is the Orient Star classic, which is basically the same watch but a little smaller and some nuanced differences, as well as a power reserve indicator. It's 38mm.

>>13923057
>>13923064

>>13923056
oh yeah 12 mm thickness might be too bulky for me dammit

>>13923057
No watch that has sentimental value is a shitter (to the person it has sentimental value to), literally more ‘valuable’ than a patek

>>13923057
Neat shit anon. Does your watchmaker happen to take accutrons to service from out of country? Unless I'm mistaken there's no one here in milkbagland who'll do it.

>>13922657
Get her this one. I recieved mine some days ago and cant stop loving it. It wears small so get the male version, it also has better proportions than the fem version.
Casio mtp 1154PQ 7BEF
I paid about 24 eur in germany. Might be cheaper somewhere else.

>>13923086
imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK

Where is Blancpainanon

>>13923113
huh. maybe I should try these things on before buying. fack

>>13923097
It could not hurt to ask. Call Orlando Watch Company here in Florida. The watchmaker's name is Scott but any of his staff can help you, they are all extremely knowledgeable.

Best place to buy new entry level Seikos? ebay, Amazon, LongIslandWatch, Jomashop?

>>13922686
I wear this watch almost every day and when I wear other watches I regret not wearing this one like 5 mins later

>>13922709
My s o y l e n t b o y l e n t brother wears this most times I see him. I always tell him to get a less femanine watch

>>13922925
I'd get an Orient, over any of the "fashion" watch memes. Bambino is my fave, there's different versions to fit your taste. Good quality for the $$$

>>13922907
>no love for my boy Franck Muller
dissapoint

Come on guys... Let's be honest.

>>13923257
I did end up getting a bambino. I have skinny wrists though (6.5 i think) so I hope it's not too big. I'm thinking of asking htem to cancel and getting a 38mm one.

Are Sistem 51s any good?

>>13923276
No.

http://watchguy.co.uk/review-a-trip-inside-the-swatch-sistem51-eta-c10111/

>>13923276
No

>>13923262
Anxiety on my wrist?
No thank you. Please tell me you don't sleep with that bot net on.

>>13923260
>forgotten forgotten tier

>this whole thread

Need some opinions. I have to decide if I want to keep this isobright quaetz watch, or send it back and get a Marathon stainless steel mechanical.

I'm very partial to the Marathon, but I've never heard of ISO brite before.

>>13923336
The Marathon watch. I own the GPQ one they make in plastic that I wear for drills, and in the field. This would effectively replace it.

>>13923336
>>13923338
is this a legitimate question? lol?

>>13923336
>>13923338
This thread needs to be renamed /sg/ - Shitters Galore

>Royal Oak edition

Finally!

Sorry for shit pic, file was too big

>>13923377
>offshore
My condolences.

>>13923371
Sorry for not having $3k for a GS.

>>13923378
I needed a beater but obviously I wear a chrono on occasions

>>13923377
>rep

>>13923383
>GS
>not a shitter

What did he mean by this

>>13923393
15202ST or bust to be honest familia.

>>13923243
Damn, im in the same boat with my casios. They are analog but also small and light.
If you are a fan of heavy watches, never wear a light one, the heavy ones will feel shitty afterwards.

Thoughts on the Navitimer? Always enjoyed the aesthetic of this watch but not sure about the build quality, movement, features, etc... also do you have to be an actual pilot to wear one?

Rate my Seiko mod

>>13922709
I use one of these at work because I want the seconds bigger than the hours because I need to count heart rates / resp. rates

>>13923405
>also do you have to be an actual pilot to wear one

Yes breitling only sell them to pilots

>>13923397
>implying GS doesn't make better watches than chinklex and Omegacuck

>>13923420
>grand shiteiko
>paying actual money for a watch with shiteiko on the dial
>not a shitter

>>13923420
lmfao finish necking yourself "zaratsu polishing"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>13923439
>paying $8k+
>for a $2k watch for normies
>with a lower finish quality than a jap "shitter" watch
The absolute state of Rolexfags

>>13922841
It looks like, its brand new photo straight from the website so it might be

>Over the time of eternity, quartz watches would cost significantly more than even the most expensive mechanical watches to keep running due to battery costs

Really makes you think

>GRAND SHITTERS BTFO
>m-muh Japanese craftsmanship
>muh affordable
Imagine trying to meticulously explain to your friends/coworkers why your SEIKO is better than a Rolex/AP/Patek. Nobody cares about your Grand-Subaru SHITTER

https://youtu.be/_kBoNN2wE6Q
Took until version 5 for them to fix the hands
>>13923535
t. Unironically a rice fucker

>>13923533
That makes sense since mechanical watches never need to be serviced

>>13923535
>he doesn’t know that Archie considers Grand Seiko to be good watches.

>>13923409
Nice

>>13921609
It doesn't look the nicest, but I've found the handiest watch throughout my life has been the Maranez Undercover.
It contains a secret compartment that I've used to hide notes and cheat on countless exams, as well as occasionally sneak weed through the TSA.

>>13923544
>mechanical watches never need to be serviced
(not true, by the way)

>>13923574
that's gimmicky as fuck, and looks fucking cheap and basic as hell...
...i'd probably still buy one if I saw it, just for the pure light yagami cosplay

>>13923533
>change your battery for 3$ every 3 years
>pay 200$ for watch service of a mechanical watch every 7 or so years

And 200 bucks is rather cheap. Complexity and replacing parts will make the cost of a simple revision go up.

>>13923533
That’s bollocks. Lots of quartz watches last longer than 4 years and it’s cheap as fuck to replace your own battery which is easy as pie.

Left or right?

It's up guys, Rolex snobs BTFO
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=os3LvQffBls

>>13923650
They're pretty different watches. Ask yourself if you'd rather a diver or a genta-ish sports watch. The group b does have a more complex finish to it. A lot more unique looking too.

>>13923533
Being this clueless...

>>13921611
Audemar Piguet

Rolex are for tasteless retards who don't know shit.

>>13921611
The all steel gshock. It shows that you do not give two fucks about horology and that you don't care to spend 550$ for a digital display.

>>13923654
>”BTFO” by an Invicta shiller
Haha what.

>>13921819
I've never seen someone got #TOLD so hard here.

Like who even argues that Rolex is better finished than Grand Seiko? Only badgewhores buy overpriced and dull Rolex anyway. Even Omega these days are more respectable with their cutting edge 8900 movement.

WAYWT?

>>13922282
I was in the same boat and I eventually thinned down my collection to just a pair of watches: Seiko SBCM023 for my daily beater and Rolex OP 36mm for special occasions. Much happier this way.

>>13923711
He's a flaming badgewhore alright. Said numerous times how Seiko didn't sound luxurious enough, "even with Grand in front of it" or some shit.

Life must be tough being this vain and wrong at the same time.

>watch a review about a 50$ swatch
>comment section is filled with seething idiots that call it a "little kids watch" and suggest to buy a seiko 5 instead
can't handle the style

Where do you guys get your watch boxes from?

just one that holds 4 pieces or even just 3 to limit my collection

>>13923854
I would like to know too. I have a shitty 10-slot Aliexpress one which falls apart, would like a nice 4-slot wooden box instead, I have sold many of my shitters lately.

>>13923852
Same people probably shit on the GMT Master for having too mich color also.
Fucking plebians

Michael from Vsauce rocking a led watch like a boss.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuAMtktUcAA-0HI.jpg:large

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=ktkjUjcZid0

Omega timecomputer?

thinking about getting a watch for hiking
basically down to these two
which one should i get?

Rate my classy collection /wt/

>>13923907

>>13923893
Neither, get a SNK80X

>>13923914
>SNK80X
ive considered it
but they're kinda boring

>>13923070
What should one expect to pay for a cosmotron in good working condition?

>>13923893
Get a solar gshock. Thank me later.

>>13923933
no

>>13923921
That ugly ecodrive is far more boring though

>>13923950
i'd say its less aesthetic but more fun than the seiko
i'll probably get the timex

Post your favourite watches in these price ranges:
>under $10

>$10-100

>$100-300

>$300-500

>$500-1000

>$1000-2000

>$2000-5000

>$5000-15000

>>13923957
the Timex looks good, but it's a quartz "diver" with only 100m WR. It's a hint that it won't last very long.

I had a Timex Weekender and it got wrecked in less than 6 months (normal everyday use), never buying a Timex again.

Hey guys just found out about this board what do you think about my watches

jlc master control and patek 5396

ignore the fragrances

>>13923969
maybe you're right
i'd hope its made better than the $30 weekenders considering its $130
reviews seem pretty good

>>13923971
your taste in watches is better than your taste in frags

>>13923971
Beats the living shit out of every 10-piece poorfag collection posted here.

>>13923907
That tasty aq 230.

>>13923893
the left.

Its my cheapest and my most reliable (as well as my 2nd) watch and it's the one I just can't let go of.

>>13923988
Lmao
The 10-piece poorfag collections here have divers, dress watches, beaters, digitals, chronographs etc.
That vs. 2 fragile dress watches.

>>13923959
>under $10
f-91w
>$10-100
f-91w
>$100-300
f-91w
>$300-500
f-91w
>$500-1000
f-91w
>$1000-2000
f-91w
>$2000-5000
f-91w
>$5000-15000
Parek Philippe Calatrava

What's a reasonable price for this Dynamic?

>>13924020
Show me the f91w that was sold for over $2k. Was it worn by Osama himself?

>>13924018
lmao
those "collections" people keep posting over and over are garbage compared to those 2 pieces

>>13924027
>under $10
f-91w
>$10-100
10 x f-91w
>$100-300
30 x f-91w
>$300-500
50 x f-91w
>$500-1000
100 x f-91w
>$1000-2000
200 x f-91w
>$2000-5000
500 x f-91w
>$5000-15000
Parek Philippe Calatrava

>>13924018
>this delusion
jeez

>>13923971
Beautiful but stay away, place is just full of bitter delusiona; poorcancer who think seiko is on the same level

>>13924030
>>13924061
>It's the apparent valuefag appears scenario again
Watches have other qualities besides value.

>>13924061
>>13924027

guys I just got into watches and came here from styleforum. The patek was a wedding gift, I wore it like 5 times. The jlc I bought myself as a work watch.

I'm a programmer so I can't wear anything that doesn't come on leather. I used to have a cheap watch in the style of submariner and the bracelet was always ill fitted and the bracelet pulled my arm hair out.

>>13924069
t. dirtpoor fag who thinks his shit tier "collection" is remotely comparable because it means something to him
One of his watches is superior to your garbage

>>13924026
Nvm, it went out of my budget.

>>13924069
or maybe people like different things, and they dont appreciate the same unsightly shit being spammed every single thread

>>13924075
>Tudorfag can only repeat that they have superior value

I get it that you want / need to keep up appearances, have status symbols or cater to certain audience, but there are people who buy watches without much thought on how much it will elevate their status.

>>13924074
don't bother with this general, it's just full of the poor and bitter. lovely wedding gift, would love either of those

NEW
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>>13924096
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>>13924089
translation: I'm poor and have shit taste

>>13924104
I care more about horology and the history of timekeeping and various timekeeping technologies than value and fashion.
I should add that it's vile cunts like you who ruin this general, just look at the way you present yourself.

>>13924109
translation: I care more about who she is inside, her beauty means nothing cause i'm a seething virgin who will never have her anyway
AKA: I'm poor

>>13924112
>value value value value
>poorfag poorfag poorfag
Come up with something new, you are embarrassing yourself.

>>13924114
>my shitters are better than his two beautiful watches
>REEEEEEEEE I'm not an envious poorfag, look at the money I've spent on my 10 shitters including my digital shitter

>>13924117
-You never saw my watches
-I have called you out multiple times on your bullshit logic, yet you continue
I'm going to assume you are just a pure troll and move on.

>>13924120
>Immediately goes on about his two stunners and brings up his 10 shitter 'collection'
Actually it's people like you who ruin this place, with your jealousy over others who can afford far better than you ever will. Typical peasant behavior

why do these threads always end in arguments?
>>13924096
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>>13924096
>>13924096

>>13921609
NEW NON TROLL THREAD

>>13924144
>>13924144
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>>13923971
Beside lawyeranon, you have the best collection here.

>>13923409
Is that a crystal times sapphire? Most reflective piece of shit I ever brought

>>13921641
Your comparison to chinese junk dissqualifies any opinion you give about watches.

>>13922814
u forgot to put g-shock in god tier