/fa/ - Fashion

>>14845218
Friendly reminder that /wt/ aims to be a shitter-free zone that promotes fair, balanced and well thought out discussion of stunning timepieces. By posting in this thread you agree not to spam shitters or express retarded opinions (such as saying quartz watches are not shit).

The shitter curtain will be closing in nine (9) posts time, after which point it will be unacceptable to post shitters. If you wish to post a shitter (e.g. a Seiko, Orient, Casio, TAG etc.) you must do so before then.

Thank you.

>>14845218
Fixed link to previous:

>>14840395

Earliest Casio Databank from 1984. Original band is a PoS that tears your arm hairs out so I got one to match my phone case

>>14845230

Is it ok to wear a replica of a hard to find, very expensive vintage watch like Milsub or Milgauss 6541?

>>14845295
No, just get a Seiko

>>14845218
Did Breitling ever make the Navitimer in a size that wasn't fucking huge? I love that watch and design but it's so huge now that I can't justify it. I'd go used and possibly vintage to find a much smaller size

>>14845218
What watch should I get for myself?
I work in IT and want to have that smart nerdy aura around me.

I'm doing it. Tapping into retirement funds to buy an AP for half price.

>>14845315

>>14845252 here. I work in data science and get lots of compliments from colleagues on this watch. I am also of the opinion that it's the most secure way to store info, albeit small bits.

>>14845318
Imagine being this absolutely retarded

The shitter curtain is now closed, please, no shitters beyond this point.

Currently wearing, day to day, a Casio AW-48H, cheap and utilitarian and I've got a clip-on Suunto compass on the strap. So you know what kind of place I'm coming from. I'm looking to get a watch for more formal occasions, one that doesn't look like it was a gift for someone 20 years younger going into conscription military service.

However, looking around, the only watches I can find that interest me are, apparently, fashion-brand shite like the OP post warns us about. (a Komono Walther in particular, got a deep discount close by; but, the brand also sells sunglasses and their website is almost to a tee what OP describes.) So you can tell I'm no fucking good at this. I'm expecting that buying that watch I'd wind up with 90€ of clunky generic disappointment and a day-of-month dial that needs a shove forward on months with fewer than 31 days.

I'd rather not have you spoonfeed me, but, how do I proceed to find a nicer-looking watch for e.g. going out to customer meetings in freshly-washed clothes?

>>14845327
Admittedly I used to sell Seiko but I refuse to stop recommending the brand.

>>14845327
How old are you, where are you from, and what's your social class?

>>14845330
It doesn't seem there's anything there that picks my fancy. Not in a hurry though, Casio shitter's gonna keep shitting.

>>14845411
Pushing forty, northern Europe, middle class white collar (software engineer).

>>14845423

How much are you looking to spend? A decent vintage dresser can be had for a hundred or two hundred

What do we think of Breitling here? I've been obsessed with this one for a while now

>>14845453
>Breitling
They make stunners.

>>14845457
You realize that of all the watches Breitling makes that the Superocean Heritage is by far their ugliest one, right? Off all the ugly oversized watches they make that one is the ugliest?

>>14845461
Can't you fucking read?

I said they make stunners.

>>14845448
Low hundreds in a few months, or mid-hundreds in a few years' time. Currently looking at a Citizen CB5865 for a "gift to self" at 40, but that'll be a while of accumulating an unspent luxury budget.

That's funny, I never even considered a second-hand watch. Now to find a suitable pastebin or other 103 kind of material about that.

>>14845327
>but, how do I proceed to find a nicer-looking watch for e.g. going out to customer meetings in freshly-washed clothes?
Your actual question
>how do I go about finding a watch
requires more data from your end.
You've answered the following
>>14845448
>>14845423
But what are your preferences?
You say you like that fashion shitter. Is there anything else that you like?
Anything out there in the entire world of watches that makes you go
>hey, I wouldn't mind wearing that on my wrist for ____ occasion.

Watch style (dressy, diver, tool, analog, digital etc.,)
Case size/diameter
Dial colour
Necessary complications
etc.
Brain fart this shit out and I'm sure some options will present themselves.

>>14845465
At 40 you should by yourself a rolex, fuck me dead. At least a Jaeger lecoultre or something.
Longines reintroduced an old design this year which I think is quite nice looking. Cost about 2k though.

>>14845496
However I wish the small second was smaller.

I'm going to try this on and probably buy this tomorrow.

has anyone tried bartering with watch dealers before?

>>14845496
Patek where there first, like always. But add a zero to the price.

>>14845496
>30m WR

>>14845538
Buy a diver if you want to go swim with it.

>>14845522
unironically one of my favorite pateks

Any opinions of classic watches?

Did these threads originate on /g/ or /fa/?

Good strap for a Seiko SNK809?

Can anyone ID this watch? Best pic that I could find. Belonged to Ted Kaczynski so it was made before he was arrested in 1996.

Timex Expedition Grid.

>>14846017

>>14845313

They have one in 38mm, I think.

Does anybody know of a Casio digital watch with a metal frame? I've tried using the search feature on Casio's website which would be amazing IF IT FUCKING WORKED. I wanna upgrade to something with a metal bracelet for durability but what good does that do if the frame is made out of resin.
I don't want the metal G-Shock.

>>14845252
You've been a virgin for how many years now?

>>14845327
>a random cunt on 4chan told me i couldn't like what i like
>can you tell me what to like instead?
I don't even understand how some of you manage to stay alive.

>>14846111
Vintage lcd are mostly steel cased

>>14845773
/g/ had a thread
/fa/ had a thread
so /fa/g/ had /wt/
/g/ thread was less faggy
more interest in horology itself, but not by much
at the end of the day it was still just a superficial watch thread like what was on /fa/
because not enough tech focus the mods banished the thread here from /g/

Convince me not to buy this. The strap on my f-91W snapped and it's probably worth it just get a new one instead of getting it fixed since it's so cheap. At the same time, I feel like I could do with an upgrade.

If not this one, is there another watch in a similar price class and durability that you would recommend?

Thoughts on these new shitters coming out in January

>>14846299
>/g/ thread was less faggy more interest in horology itself

>>14846363
Looks closer to the old alpinist (before the SARB017) which is nice. It having a new movement with 70hrs of power reserve is neat too. Just wish seiko would bring out the 4s15 again.

>>14846363
Such original designs. Where do they get their ideas for such creativity?

>>14846131
fucking nasty

>>14846363
The black dialed one looks like a proper rehash of the early 90's model. Which i guess comes in term with Seiko's coin flippy nature with reissues.

Have a great weekend, watchlads.

>>14846363
They're shit and 40mm

Buy the 4s15 variants

>>14846485
Oh and the proportions are all fucking ugly (those tiny hands WTF), and it's stupidly high priced

>>14845327
just get a dressier casio or timex

>>14846131
I'll take the dogshit over the watch

>>14845327

>>14846131
Looks okay, I'll start including Seiko in my searching endeavors.

>>14846115
I’ve never been a virgin.

>>14845315
A Speedy of course

>>14846582
Imagine being dumber than this fat fuck and actually listening to his delusions.

>>14845295
In my honest opinion, yes. You would be wearing a true homage to a legendary, unobtainable watch, not a rip off of a current design.

>>14846629
I’ll allow this

Heard you people didn't liked my watch and mouse?
Here they go again.

>>14845295
A good homage of a vintage is little less gay then a straight up replica, although I understand why you'd want one.

>>14846729
The autism necessary to post them every thread is what we don't like. Get a life and a real watch.

>>14846755
>we

lol

Post pics or just brag about any designer/luxury stuff you own. What is the experience like? I only own mall tier clothes and accessories, the most expensive thing I have are $95 adidas sneakers

>>14846812
Sorry, I am total absolute retard, this should be a thread not reaction

>>14846812
>just brag about any designer/luxury stuff you own. What is the experience like?
this is so sad

6 inch wristlet here. Can I wear a 5610 without it looking clown sized or am I fully in baby G territory? Im guessing it's going to look like pic related which is pretty sad.

>>14846888

lel I hope so, I ordered mine today and I have a 6.5 inch wrist. It should arrive tomorrow so I might post a pic.

>>14846945
Nice, please post a pic when it comes in.

>>14846945
Also you can pick up a replacement strap for the
GW-5000-1JF on ebay for $20 or so and put it on the 5610. It's supposed to be much nicer and softer.

>>14846755

>>14846985

I wanted to get the combi bracelet but apparently it's out of stock on Amazon in the UK so I guess I'm gonna use the resin strap for a while.

>watch nerds bitch and moan about brands like MVMT and Daniel Wellington selling ten-dollar watches for 120+ bucks a pop
>yet they're perfectly fine with Rolex charging ten grand for watches that cost twenty bucks to make

>>14845457
The shitter line was posted and you are well below it.

Holy fuck this thing looks so good. If I knew it was a thing I might not have gotten my Speedmaster. Daytona BTFO

>>14847109
It does. Most people who criticize it seem to be hung up on the handset but honestly I like it and I think it further pulls them away visually from the chronograph functions

>>14845518
FUCK IT IM GOING TO BUY IT FUCK

>>14847141
Just be cautious. Your emotions are riding high. Try it on, by all means try it on. Then wait two weeks. If you still feel that it's the right thing, and your budget allows for it without any concerns or repercussions, then pull the trigger. If you don't want it in two weeks, you'll know not to get it.

From last night's thread; here's a better pic of my most recent cop. I saw this in a shop 6 months ago, and came back to buy it two days ago. I finished the initial testing...it has a fucking 43 hour power reserve....far better than I expected.

>>14846811
Nobody asked but the Alpha bracelet kicks the Seikos ass. It's kind of alarming. Obviously switched em out anyways.

I'm taking the solarpill.
Left or right? Left has multiband 6/bluetooth but right doesn't look autistic.

>>14847182
It’s a fucking watch, you dumb nig.
How fucking retarded are you, Jesus.

>>14847182
Why do you need spyware on your watch?

>>14847182
right all day but there are better solars

>>14847188
Answer my question nigger.
>>14847206
Like what? All the new seiko solars are shit.

snapped a pic of my seiko

>>14847260
Nice bokeh.

>>14847154
tried it on and tried to resist and wait 2 weeks..
I now own a tudor

>>14847267
lol Well then, congrats. Wear it in good health, and enjoy the fuck out of it.

The reason we love watches is that they remind us of the experiences we had while wearing them, so make sure you create great experiences wearing this one.

Take a few days, chart the gain/loss, power reserve,etc., and get to know the watch and what it does. Then it'll be right as rain on your wrist. Also, take it for a swim...it's what it's made for, after all.

>>14847267
hey anon is that a rolex?

>>14847267
Damn, the blue seriously looks so good. If it was mine I'd get the steel bracelet, but damn, it looks good anon

>>14847291
technically yes

>>14847182
The black face version of the Citizen was on sale for BF for 90. Thoughts in the Seiko SSC701?

>>14847298
so its a fake?

>>14847291
The Black Bay looks much better than a Submariner, honestly

>>14847308
poorfag cope

>3rd hole from the edge feels too tight
>4th hole and the watch ends up sitting like in pic
What do I do, brehs.
It fits better on my right wrist, is it heresy to wear it on the right or is it acceptable?

>>14847326
Fuck me, I mean 5th and 4th hole, in that order.

>>14847267
Stunner, careful it doesn't catch fire like happened to the other anon. He was left with a charred Black Bay and a hefty repair bill.

>>14847318
It has nothing to do with being poor or not. Whether I'm rich or poor doesn't change the fact that the Black Bay is the better looking watch.
If the designs were switched but the brands were the same you'd be saying the Sub was the poorfag option, which just goes to show that you're only chasing the name to flex, which is pretty pathetic.

>>14847424
That's not true, it's very obvious that Rolex is better. First of all it doesn't have retarded colors, it has crown guards and a better designed crown, it has better bezel notches, better bezel numerals, you can see that it's a design that's been developed for decades. Tudor just looks like some random shit slapped together, and the proportions of everything are slightly off.

>>14847424
>gay faux vintage shit like riveted bracelet and aged lume
>flimsy bracelet clasp that's thin for absolutely no reason and is prone to breaking
>not enough microadjust on the clasp
>boring slab sided case
>no date lol
>too big
>worse movement that's more expensive than the rolex to service
>will forever be the poorman's rolex

Wow, it's a fucking shitter.

>>14847445
Not him, but the black bay is just a modern watch with the styling of a vintage submariner. Aside from the snowflake hands its basically just the old big crown subs.

>>14847453
Except it's not, put them side by side and see for yourself. Look at the bezel notches and the crown notches which are the most blatant example.

>>14847456
Obviously there are some differences m8. However you can't deny that it's clearly the inspiration for the black bay, considering it carries over most of the design cues.

>>14847456
Do you not know what "its basically just" means? He didn't say "it was an exact copy" or anything. Holy shit, everyone in this thread is so fucking retarded, why do I even come here?

>>14846730
The only homage of the Milsub I've seen is the Steinhart & I'm not convinced the QC would be any better than a chink rep.

>>14846812
I have an Omega Seamaster, only 2 people have ever commented on it. I imagine it's the same with most things.

i leave for 8 years and this is what you're doing?

>>14847522
Post your watch faggot.

>>14847528
>not posting yours first

>>14847533
I don't have one because I'm too poor.

>>14847424
Dude it literally looks like an autistic submariner KEK
how much did you drop on this joke of a watch?

>>14846561
this nigga fucked his mom

Is it correct that January-March is when you're most likely to find a good deal on used watches on Ebay etc? I'm guessing many people are looking to sell old stuff or shit they got for Christmas that they're not happy with.
Watchbros who have been in the game for a few years, can you confirm or deny this?
Thanks.

>>14847574
Sometimes.

Though i've always had good sales in Jan-Feb since people have more disposable income.

>>14845496
>Rolex
Why would he want to downgrade from Casio?

What strap should I get for this? I'm not sure about going with leather, I don't thing this dial makes it an elegant enough watch to use it when I actually have to dress.
Currently using it as my daily watch.

>>14847719
Anon, we appreciate that you want to contribute, but don't post shitters in this general. This general is dedicated to the discussion of luxury timepieces, posting low-quality watches such as that simply dilutes the quality of the discussion.

For me?

If I could pick only one watch?

To be honest.

Having thought about it.

There's only one choice.

It would have to be the Omega Speedmaster Professional Man on the Motherfucking Moon.

AHAHAHAHAHA HOW ARE THESE BEING SOLD FOR $99.95?
IT LOOKS LIKE A FUCKING TV ON THIS WRISTLET

Someone's selling it barely used for 6€, fucking lol. Tempted to flip it but it looks so disgusting I don't think I wanna touch it.

>>14847807
"Timex TW4B03000" btw

>>14847719
Zuludiver rubber strap, maybe some rough/suede leather.

Martenero, are they shitters? Made in the US with Seiko movements. This one's really got my eye.

>>14847807
Looks like something you could find on a cereal box.

Thoughts on Armani watches?

which one do you prefer? arabic numerals, roman numerals or no numbers at all?

I'm thinking of getting a watch with arabic numerals for everyday use and another one with roman numerals or no numbers for dressing.

>>14847826
It could have been something truly great, it has a nice light, stainless steel top plate, 100m water resist, shock resist. If only they didn't make it so fucking ugly and wide...

Here is my op39

>>14847267
Congratulations!

>>14847830
Don't bother with cheap watches designed by clothing/fashion companies.
Buy watches from real watch brands.

>>14847845
Looks really good but a bit too thick for my liking.

>>14847860
onions

I need a new leather strap. Are shell cordovans worth the money? Rec me some.

>>14847515
It's kind of pick your poison deal.

Homage, riding on someone else's reputation. Will always feel a bit cheap and never look exactly like the original. At least they do it under their own brand.

Replicas, looks like the real deal but you know deep down it's not and will always feel like a fake and fraud. Can't blame people for wanting a rep though, but if you pretend to others that it's real you're a wanker.

Disclosure, I have a Steinhart Milsub 39mm as a beater, decent watch for the price.

Good place to buy straps in EU?

Convince me not to get one of these

>>14847982
Don't get it dude. Trust me.

>>14846969

Just came in. I immediately regretted picking the negative colours of the display. It's really hard to read. I'm gonna take it out into the sun to see how it performs. I hope it's just because it's been in the package for a while.

>>14848008
I'm glad a subhuman shitposter like yourself is having a bad time with the shitter you've bought.

>>14848020

Joke's on you, you can't tell me anything I haven't already told myself.

>>14847982
please just buy a sinn

>>14847855
What are some good budget brands?

>>14847819
Every time I look at Martenero I think "Man, these look really cool, but what the fuck would I wear them with?"

>>14848049
Seiko, Citizen, Orient, Vacheron Constantin, Casio.

>>14848060
Alpha.

>>14848033
Sinns are boring. I want something with a bit of bling

>>14848060
Vacheron doesn't belong on that list they don't make durable watches.

>>14847982
>>14848008
These are SHITTERS
BUY A FACKIN ROOOOOOLLLLEEEXXXX

>>14848117

Yes, I'll go to my construction job wearing a 50k Rolex. I thought people with expensive watches were supposed to be smart.

>>14848008
Yeah i noticed casio has been cranking out loads of watches with negative displays. They must sell even though everyone complains about poor visibility. The sizing looks fine. I guess they wear much smaller than their measurements.

>>14848120
If you were rich a rolex would be your shitter watch.

>>14848120
Nobody rich enough to wear a rolex works on a building site lol

>>14848125
>retard doesn't know high-paying blue-collar jobs exist

>>14848049
Tissot, Hamilton, Casio

>>14848121

Having worn it for a bit, I kinda feel like I've adjusted to it (might just be stockholm syndrome, admittedly). I wonder if it would be possible for them to make one where you could have the option to switch between negative and positive displays. Doesn't seem like it would take that much of a leap in science to pull off.

Why shouldn't I just buy a "Tourbillion" watch from eBay for £25? They've got exactly the sort of style I like, and I can't find anything similar in the <£100 price range. Who cares if it's fake and the watch doesn't actually work

>>14847807
ITS A FUCKING TOOL SPORT WATCH YOU NIGGER
ITS SUPPOSED TO BE HUGE
YOU DONT WEAR IT IN THE CITY
retard

>>14848143
G-Shock G-3310 from 2003 had this functionality. You were able to switch the bottom part of the screen between dark and bright.
The watch was a real beauty too...
https://forums.watchuseek.com/f17/new-aquisition-g-3310d-2009578.html

>>14848143
You can just buy some polarising film and install it or rotate it or whatever. Look up a guide for making an f 91w negative and then reverse that.

>>14848152
That's no excuse to make it ultrawide, with wonky fucking letters and a band that's so fucking wide that nothing else will fit. Cope.

>>14848008
>I immediately regretted picking the negative colours of the display. It's really hard to read.
Fucking hell, really? That's my dream beater watch. The normal colors just look so ugly.

>>14848152
They could have easily made the face 25% smaller without decreasing the text size of affecting visibility.

>>14845223
You can’t tell me what to do

>>14847308
same

>>14847326
Punch a new hole.
or
Wear it on a perlon or woven strap of some sort
you don't really have any other options if you have an awkward fit.

is it because of the hole spacing? or is it because of the shape of the part of your wrist where the watch is supposed to sit?
lucky are those with a flat watch-area on the wrist

>>14848194
my nigga

>>14847456
legit fucking autistic and doesn't even belong on this site lmao

>>14848160

Well, it was just an initial fear of buyer's remorse, I think. The reason I chose it was precisely what you say, I wasn't a fan of the vanilla colour scheme. It is harder to read than my f91w, that's just a fact but the more I use it the more I think I don't really mind. Plus, it has an automatic illumination function which makes it alot easier to see in darker areas. If you could switch to a positive display, it would be a GOAT beater watch.

>>14847819
>Made in the US
lol
It's made in china.
Everything is made in china except really expensive stuff, and even then you have to watch it.
The ONLY usa made watch is RGM, and maybe Weiss.

>>14848216

How do you find the one on the far left? I was thinking of picking one up as a gift to my little brother. Also, do you think it's worth it to replace a snapped resin strap on the F-91W or is it better to just replace the whole thing?

>>14847845
I don't like the sunburst "black" dial. It makes a black dial into a dark grey in light, when I would prefer inky black like the professional line.
Do you like the sunburst?
Maybe the 36mm one is still gloss black..

>>14848239
It's called AE1200WH, it has a metal bracelet version too; AE1200WHD.
For the F-91W, if you wanna keep using a resin strap then it might cost you about the same to replace the whole watch as buying new bands (depending on where you live, import tax etc.) Check out YouTube for F-91W strap modifications, maybe you wanna put something else on it. Or consider getting its older brother, the W-800H, it's a little bit bigger and has better water resistance, but there's barely any difference in price.

>>14845218

Hey guys. I have decided on my first major watch purchase, this Rolex Datejust. How much should I pay? Retail is $9,500.

I hear dealer markup is 33%, so $6,300 is the absolute bottom. I want to walk in the dealer with a wad of cash and try to get it as cheap as possible, and I'm a good negotiator. Think it would be possible to get it for 7K?

>>14848292
You'll likely pay retail. There's a severe shortage on the steel stunners/professional line at the moment (people paying 2x retail for used watches because otherwise you just can't buy them) and it means ADs aren't as willing to discount Rolex, even shitters like the dress watches no one wants.

>>14848216
> /fa/
kek

you /g/ fags are pathetic

>>14848254

>It's called AE1200WH, it has a metal bracelet version too; AE1200WHD

Cheers. I actually meant what your thoughts on it are but I didn't know the model name so it's appreciated.

The W-800H looks good I think I might just cop that one.

Is the quality control on Rolexes actually good or do you still have to go full autismo with a jewler's loop to make sure you are getting one with a perfect face and flawless case?

>>14848292
You won't get it below retail, sorry

>>14848306
>meant what your thoughts on it are
Oh, my bad. Well, it's a beater-tier watch, nothing fancy. They are scratch magnets, you'll wanna polish the screen with some paper and toothpaste every few months if you use it as your main watch. The "World Time" feature is pretty useless for most people, get it only if you like the style. It should be noted that the case of the "metal" version is actually plastic.

>>14848318
The fact you think they may not be good and need a loop already makes you autistic.

>>14848321
>>14848303

Fock me dead!

>>14848318
If there's flaws they'll be easy to see with the naked eye.
Rolex isn't "loopworthy" like highly finished HH shit. You're not paying enough (list-price wise) to be worried about that.
Just buy it and wear it and as long as there's no cracks on a ceramic bezel or someshit and all's working mechanivally then it is fine.

>>14848292
Depends on the exact model but you'll never get 33% off as a new customer in an AD. Ignore >>14848303 as the steel premium only applies to sports watches not the datejust. That's still readily available.


Look on chrono24 for grey market / discount prices.

>>14848151
>Who cares if it's fake and the watch doesn't actually work
The point of a visible movement and tourbillion is to see it work.

>>14848333
Learn to read, retard.

>>14848151
Why are you buying it?

If it's just cause you think they look cool, go for it I guess, but literally anyone whose seen a luxury watch before will know it's a piece of shit, so the social signaling aspect is out the window.

>>14848292

Not going to happen. If it's a current generation datejust you won't even get 20% off on the used market. You're going to pay list from an AD

>>14848292
You're probably lucky if they have a boomer two tone datejust to sell.

>>14845755
I will never by a mechanical chrono without a 12hr sub dial, I've had them and they are useless.

>>14847807
perfect 999/vlr cosplay

>>14847806
Reddit incarnate
get a lobotomy too since you can't form your own opinions anyway

>>14847424
>he bought a black bay

>>14847982
>hoemajis are ok when swisskuks do it
lmao
you look like a faggot wearing that style of watch when it's not an AP
double faggot for wearing the Soros preferred brand of watches

Superior integrated bracelet design coming through.
that faggot genta WISHED he designed this perfect harmony of form, function and style.

>>14848369
Why would you spend $10k on a watch with no water resistance? Can that thing even handle a downpour?

>>14848393
>HURR IT'S POPULAR SO IT'S SHIT
Do you have any actual arguments?

>>14848402
Based and redpilled.

>>14848408
Oyster cased rolex have 100m WR minimum + screw down crowns, it only goes up from there for diving shit like seedwelllerrre.
The only rolex that doesn't have 100m WR minimum with the screw crown is the cellini line, which is rolex's actual dress watch line no body gives a shit about. Datejusts are sports watches originally.
My bro in law dives with his DJ. Dive comp one wrist, DJ on the other. Never seen him take it off.

>>14848408
>no water resistance
>Oyster
bro

>>14848402
>never available
stop buying it reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

This is it!
Lolex is finished!
https://youtu.be/OqGbSawI4kw

>>14847719
Something like pic related would look nice imo. Keep it kinda dark.

The state of /wt/
>endless trolling for/against Tudor
>endless Seiko bating from their lower tier watches
>no you


>no discussions of movements, innovations, aesthetics, industry concerns, past traditions and future directions. Nothing about metallurgy, escapements, craftsmanship, or simple questions like 'will smaller watches ever come back into style'.

I get it Anons, I do. Most Anons here can't afford a Patek or Vacheron, and a Rolex still seems out of reach for many, even on the secondary market. If it's affordable (like a 20 year old Explorer) then it's not considered good enough. The Tudor from above is a fine engineered watch for the price range, but it'll get shit on because it's not a Rolex.

There comes a point where one does ask why Anons would come here to endlessly repeat the same platitudes which elicit the same reactions, over and over again. Maybe it's because of boredom, or curiosity to see if it still works. Whatever the reason, isn't it wasteful?

There is more out there...

>>14848549
lmao do they still not regulate the movements in a 2k watch that doesn't have a caseback?

>>14848578
Shut the fuck up motherfucker, Breitling make the best watches out there and you know it.

Are there any stores in Australia that sell spring bar tools?
I need one ASAP and can't wait for delivery.

>>14848598
Damn that's a nice watch

>>14848578
There's no trolling for/against Tudor. There's trolling *by* a fake Tudor fag. You are right that 99% of the posters here can only afford utter shit which is why this general is utter shit (casio, seiko, fourth rate third world foreign shitters).

>>14848603
Thanks.

>>14848613
SHUT the FUCK up.

>>14848598
Beyond the rudeness, historically Breitling made some very interesting and important watches, I'll agree, and their Navitimer (the old one with the properly sized slide rule) is iconic. I personally dislike the superocean because it always reminded me of a whoopee cushion...

That being said, Breitling only recently started doing the inhouse thing for their movements, and their offerings have not been particularly innovative (at least compared with others in the same price bracket as Omega).

>>14848613
I know, but the Tudor issue is the same very time. At this point, why differentiate if the result is the same?

The strange thing is that one could save up about 500$ and go vintage or pre-owned. Already the quality will be higher. Save up a few hundred more, and the quality gets even better. Shitters are always shitters because they don't last, they don't perform well, and they are disposable. I understand that people want a watch NOW, but with a little discipline and saving a person could get one that makes a difference in their lives over just telling the time.

>>14848620
The fuck up will never be shut. :)

>>14847982
Soros wears these. Just keep that in mind.

>>14848632
>the Tudor issue is the same
Tudor exist for people who want a good mechanical watch but can't afford a Rolex. That's literally why the brand was created. It's still true today. Sure there are a few people who prefer their design over Rolex but they are the minority.

>>14848239
I’m >>14848194 and I have a 7.25” wrist. The world times are like 42”, but if your wrist is 7” or bigger it’ll look really good, I love how mine fits.

Tudor watches are fucking shit and catch fire all the time.

Breetling is the new king.

>>14848650
I would agree with your assessment here. Tudors started as off-the-shelf movements put into Rolex cases; given that the Oyster case was one of the main innovations of Rolex, you'd be getting 'Rolex quality' at a Tudor price.

The same thing, surprisingly enough, could be seen back in the 90's when Omega was using ETA movements in most of their lineup. You were getting 'Omega quality' in the case, bracelet, and face, but reliable off-the-rack ETA movements.

The problem today for Tudor is that the need for mechanical watches for daily life no longer exists, and since the quartz revolution the watch industry has pushed for 'heritage, status, etc.' rather than functionality. When you do this, you kill the Tudor lineup because it's function is not there. To buy a mechanical watch today is solely for historical factors or status, but Tudor doesn't fulfill either.

Incidentally, that's why Oris is losing out, and Tag Heuer is having problems. Their raison d'etre is gone, and they don't have the ability to replace that quickly or easily.

>>14848657

Cheers.

>>14845218

On chink eBay, and I'm finding lots of watches that have the right sort of style that I like, and for dirt cheap prices (left to right: <$5, ~$50, $30). Now obviously, those prices are so cheap that the watch is probably complete shit and will fall apart in a week. So my question is - where can I find similar style watches which won't break the bank, but which are fairly decent quality too? Can it be done?

>>14848738
For the one on the left, you can use Fossil. For the other two, anything that uses Miyota movements will be fine. Rotary Watches might be a good place to start, or even other small brands that go mechanical but are not swiss.

Not all Chinese brands are shit; if the movement is a Seagull and properly cleaned, serviced, and cased, then the watch is going to be reliable. Other movement manufacturers not so much. If you need to go cheap, do research before pulling the trigger because there are many factors that affect the potential longevity of the watch.

If you're buying something 'disposable', then it doesn't matter.

>>14847456
>it has the same styling of the old one
>NO, IT HAS THESE INSIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES

>>14848318

Sold a 2017 Daytona a wgile ago and the lugs weren't the exact same size. The guy I was selling it to called his Rolex warchmaker buddy to look at it and he said this happens all the time. I was baffled.

>>14848546
This fucking assholes I want one!!!!

>>14848753
Do you know which Chinese brands are ok? To be honest I really like the style of the middle one, and for $50 I'm quite tempted

>>14848735

>>14848782
Find out what movement it uses. If it's a Seagull, you're fine as long as the company that cased the watch did it cleanly and regulated it before shipping it off.

I've only bought one Chinese movement watch, but I had my watchmaker available and took it to him when I got it, just to make sure everything was in the right place. There was one issue (the chronograph wheel was not engaging deep enough with the running seconds) but aside from that it was fine.

Regarding Seagull movements:

1) If it comes directly from the Seagull factory, then it'll be okay. However that's movement only.

2) When the movement is put into a watch case, you have potential of dust, debris, and damage. Therefore 3)

3) If the company or individual casing it is clean, then the movement will be fine. The only thing left to do is regulate the watch after it's been cased, and everything will be okay. If the casing is done in poor conditions, you have potential for a bad watch (runs poorly, is not lubricated properly, etc.). This is why I say do your research.

If it's a Chinese movement, then I only trust Seagull. The other ones are way too unreliable in terms of quality control.

>pic related is my Chinese watch. Initially ran +0.5 seconds daily, but now is a little faster. Such is life after a year of use.

>>14848578
you must be mistaken
this is the /fa/ thread on watches
nobody gives a shit about any of that
as long as the watch looks good on a fuccboi's limp wrist that's all that matters
perhaps you should start a thread on /g- oh yeah
right
whoops
forgot about that

>>14848798
I'd like to pick one of these up but not sure if I can justify it due to already owning a MOTMFM, also not sure about the "fake" blued hands.

They look cool, but how's the survivability as a beater what with the zero water resistance and supposedly the movement isn't shock resistant?

>>14848773
this can happen when a watch has been so badly overpolished by a moron
the grind down the lugs unevenly
though i've not heard of it happening on a new watch
then again, even after a year of wear a shitty 2ndhand dealer will grind polish that shit aggressive-like because 2ndhand buyers are apparently oh so fucking picky that a mild scratch-from-wear here or there is so fucking offensive that the watch won't sell unless it looks "as new" aka "over polished to the max by an idiot"
still, if it was uneven from the factory that's unsettling

>>14848790

>>14848777
I've wanted one for fucking years. Over the past I dunno, decade, whenever I think of it I check online among the usual suspects to see if a neptune is available. Nope. never happened once. Maybe I'm just continually missing the god damned window. If I really wanted one I suppose ebay, but it's one of those long term burn kinda wants, and not something I could ever be bothered expending much effort into.

>>14848773
>>14848840
I don't know about the Daytona, but I know apparently on the Submariner the lugs on the right side of the case are slightly slimmer than on the left side of the case. Supposedly it's a visual trick to balance the watch, if they were the same thickness on each side you'd percieve the watch as lob-sided as the right side is already beefed up by the crown and crown guards.

This is just what I've read on TRF and might be boomer nonsense.

>>14848847
I keep buying up the stock and throwing them into a local river, there must be hundreds down there.

>>14848824
I'm not mistaken, just old enough to remember. There are still Anons who come here once in a while who have serious and in-depth knowledge of niche areas of watchmaking, though as I have been away from here for a long few months I can't begrudge them doing the same. That being said, there have been times when /wt/ on /fa/ has been fruitful, interesting, and insightful, and it absolutely can be again. The shame is that you either never experienced it yourself or have lost the belief that it can be different than it is now. For the other Anons who share your perspective, that is the real loss.

>>14848827
If you already own the MOTMFM, then you don't need a 1963. Hell, if you have a MOTMFM, you don't need any of the watches you've put on the pic. So, if you're going with 50$ watches, desu what does it matter if it craps out in a year?

Regarding the 1963 as a beater with 0 water resistance. To me the question is 'how hard do you treat your watches?' Let's be clear; the 1963 is fine if you get it wet in the rain or ride a motobike. If you submerge it for 2 minutes in water, it's probably a bad idea, and if you take it on a roller coaster I don't know what would happen.

I have a Citizen beater (pic related) that I use for anything that is rough, but I don't lead a rough life so I wear the 1963 as if I were wearing a Vacheron. I'd be careful with the Vacheron, and I'm careful with all my watches, so it's not an issue.

Regarding the 1963; it doesn't stop if you clap your hands. It's a Venus 175 movement which was one of the most reliable and hardy chronograph movements of the 60s. The only difference is that the Chinese have changed one or two parts, and removed one or two to make it easier to produce, but other than that it's no more problematic than an average chronograph from the 60s.

All that being said, if you have a Speedy, do something different, but save for it.

>>14848889
I'm glad you were denied quads

>>14848890
>I'm not mistaken, just old enough to remember. There are still Anons who come here once in a while who have serious and in-depth knowledge of niche areas of watchmaking, though as I have been away from here for a long few months I can't begrudge them doing the same.

Depends, a few threads ago i was shitting on some retard that was pulling shit out of his ass on a discussing about the 2824 only to be faced with facts. But that kinda says a lot about the /fa/ threads, as one of the more annoying ones was the guy shilling for higher end pieces with the standard Archiedrone approach, shitting on lower and mid end pieces, yet not even owning a single watch and complaining he can't afford one.

Though i think some of the better conversations were at the time when those 3 Canucks and me got everybody hooked on Penis quartzes and LM specials, or even earlier when we had quite a few people who actually dabbled with movements.

>>14848847
I think i've owned and sold a couple, and with how Meranoms mailing system works it's really difficult to get a mail when stock is available.

>>14848958
I still come to these threads sometimes but there's not a lot of point any more.

>>14848598
Breitling makes some gorgeous watches, but the Superocean Heritage is not one of them.

SPEEDMASTER

>>14848613
>fourth rate third world foreign shitters
What are you trying to say?
Tread lightly

>>14849009
What's not to like? It's extremely well constructed and finished for the discount-diver price and has a great movement. Plus, if you don't think it looks good you're probably gay, the rest of Breitling's catalogue is either ETA mall-watch shitters or simply the Navi.

>>14849010
Based and redpilled.

Speedmaster chads report in.

>>14849025
>What are you trying to say?

>buy what you like
>it's shit
>buy what /wt/ recommends
>you fell for the meme and it's still shit
>buy russian watch
>it's commie shit
>buy Jap watch
>it's overhyped shit
>buy chink watch
>it's cheap shit
>buy Swiss watch
>it's overpriced shit
>buy vintage watch
>it's old shit
>buy microbrand watch
>it's meme shit
>buy seiko
>poorfag
>buy tag
>reddit faggot, it's mall shit
>buy tudor
>poor man's Rolex, loser
>buy omega
>what a shitter, couldn't afford a Rolex, loser?
>buy rolex
>it's fake you faggot snob

>>14848672
>used Tudor for sale
>light patina, otherwise excellent

>>14848889

Hm, iirc the right side lugs were just a tiny bit thinner. Never heard of that story, but who knows. It wasn't polished, it came out the factory like that.

>>14848546
>>14848777
heh, the Neptune club is one of the most exclusive in horology.
Buy a patek shitter or maybe some dogshit rolex and MAYBE I'll let you on the meranom wishlist.

>>14848890
>that disgusting plebbit watch
You really think your shitty opinions can hold any weight after posting that?
Imagine being retarded enough to buy that thing jfc

>>14848303
imagine rollex being associated with this asian pedo fat slob

>>14848008
Hey anon, send it back and get the ladies version (baby g 560) if you don't like the baby g you can just burn off the paint.

Also the LCD module inside it is apparently brand new and damn good.

>>14849200

Out of curiosity, why do you shit up the thread with everything you post? I'm genuinely curious about this, it makes no sense to me. Like, what kind of joy do you get out of it?

>>14849240
Assuming that's yours (you're stupid enough to buy that), your little fraken tudor really isn't impressive.
Tudor is the true plebbit magnet. I thought sinn was bad but jesus

>>14848216
WORLD TIME GANGGGGG

>>14849240
Is this your first day on 4chan anon? Don't feed the trolls, replying to him is feeding him.

>>14849243
hows that shit going

>>14849240

>>14849242

It isn't and the owner built it himself, so your weak attempt at trying to make me feel bad about it has failed miserably. Speaking about miserable, I can't help but wonder how miserable you are to shitpost on an anonymous Cambodian pepper cultivation board like you do.

AAAAAAAAAAAAA
THATS IT THATS IT IM TRIED OF BEING CALLED A WRISTLET

>>14849266
>owner built it himself
That's exactly what a franken is you fucking monkey.

>>14849236
>you can just burn off the paint.
What does this mean? Im assuming you don't mean burnig it off with a lighter. Can you link to a guide for removing the paint?

>>14849240
>mismatched hands
>mismatched indicies
>uneven lugs from shitty polish job
Ah yes, top grade restoration.
$4000 no low balls I know what I have!

>>14848598
Seriously the most annoying /fa/ /g/ on here hands down

>>14848241
The sunburnt dial is very subtle, the only reason why it is like that in the photo is the fuck off Aussie sun at midday with out a cloud in the sky, I'd for the most part consider it just a regular black

>>14845327
Did you not read the second post of the thread?

Fuck, man. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

>>14847845
>op
absolute dog
love the low hanging fruit that rolex dangles for retards

>>14847845
Honestly, I don't like it. It's just a boring, bland design. This is the "affordable" Rolex for poor people who absolutely must have a Rolex to tell people they own one despite it being a shit design.
If you like then that's awesome and good for you, anon.

Only Tudor worth buying

>>14848760
>INSIGNIFICANT
Uhh...

>>14848958
>yet not even owning a single watch and complaining he can't afford one.
Tell me one reason to buy a shitter.

>>14849278
See >>14848672

>>14849462
Not that guy but I love it for that exact reason. It's a completely bland generic watch that goes with everything, and you pay the Rolex tax so that you can buy actually good looking watches that are fun to wear (so you can always say I have a Rolex too, or maybe wear it on the other wrist).

Like, you could wear a Sinn, Yema, Fortis, or something like that, on your left wrist, and then if anyone makes fun of you for not having a Rolex, just show the right wrist.

I like watches that err towards the tool watch aesthetic, but are also stylish without being very dressy if at all. I'm not interested in pilot's watches or chronographs. Any recs?

>>14849651
I can't believe people are homaging vostok now
the absolute state of this "industry"

anyone else put their watches on their jerking arm to wind the movement while you coom?

>>14849673
No, you'll derange the ablative sprocket and then you'll have to do the movement in reverse, you don't want to have to jerk another dude do you.

>>14845218
Show me a more elegant watch than this.
Protip; you can't.

>in miami
>attended art basel
>tons of richfags
>they could buy and wear whatever wristwatch they want
>any brand as low as production numbers may be, grand complication and interesting design is attainable to them
>All I see are three handed Nautilus, Royal Oak and the occasional Richard Mille
How can people be so fucking boring.

>>14849842
backside

>>14845218
> Don't spend more than 150% of your annual income (after taxes) on a watch
Nibba buys a fucking SUPEROCEAN lmao what a fucking punter.

>>14849844
Man pictures can't really do these movements justice. Saw an 1815 chrono in person a while ago and it looked drop dead gorgeous.

>>14849590
Imagine being so fucking autistic and obsessed with showing off to people that don't care that you would 1) actually pay for an overpriced Rolex and 2) wear a watch on each wrist

People who buy Rolex because they're so insecure that they only buy things to show off are pathetic.

>>14849842
Why would anyone buy an unknown shitter if they're rich? They're buying brands that people know.

>>14849854
What other reason would there be to buy a Rolex? The only reason it exists is to show that you made it so now you can do anything.

I went into the highest rated watch repair store that was near me to buy a spring bar tool for changing watch straps.
the guy just laughed me out of the store then finally said "just use a knife like I do"
would should I leave a bad review

>>14849855
0/10 reading comprehension.
What was it like not being able to make it through elementary school?

>>14849857
>What other reason would there be to buy a Rolex?
Exactly. Rolex is such a shitty company. They make hideous watches and make bullshit waitlists and artificial shortages and faggots STILL fall for it.
I think the true sign of how retarded Rolex is is that no one in real power actually wears one.
For example Putin wouldn't be caught dead wearing a Rolex. Macron wears a Longines, Trudeau wears an ICW, Obama wore a Tag, Natanyahu wears Panerai, King Felipe wears an Omega, Prince Charles wears Parmigiani. I could go on. No actual world leader wears Rolex. It's only plebs buying it to show other plebs they have one.

>>14849844
nice seagull clone movement loser

>>14849863
>wears
Yet they all have dozens of them in the vault.

>>14848211
I think the issue is a combination on my wrist not being flat and the hole spacing. I also can't tighten it too much cause it'll pressure a vein on the top and it starts to hurt.
Been trying out the right hand - much less of an issue. I'll be sticking to this right now but thanks for the suggestions and teaching me about woven straps.

>>14849865
Only Trump is retarded enough to actually have a Rolex, and it's the tackiest looking one possible, all yellow gold Daydate.

>>14849871
You've seen every world leader's vault?

>>14849872
>muh vault
They're not keeping shitty Rolexes in vaults, nigger. They're keeping Pateks there

gonna cop. thoughts?

>>14849959
Hard to read.
There are people who USE G-Shock and /fa/ggotshits who WEAR them.
This watch is aimed for the latter group.

What's the point of getting an analog in 2019 when 99% of these watches have to be manually adjusted each month for the correct date?

>>14849996
>can't be assed to spin the crown for 10 seconds once per month

>>14849973
yeah but it looks cool

whats the most kino entry level diver?

>>14849959
https://youtu.be/DnqlaD0cyN4?t=99

>>14847424
You have a point.

Even skx is better than sub

>>14849462
It ain't affordable haha. I didn't buy it because I wanted a Rolex, I got it as a left of a swap with someone. I think it is nice because it doesn't scream Rolex, it has a nice solid case and bracelet, a polished bezel and slight sunburst dial that only really the person who's wrist it is on could appreciate. Anyway, even though I like it I am thinking about selling it, you are definetly right, it can be considered a little bland, thinking about a first omega in space to replace it

>>14849996
How fucking lazy are you? Holy shit

>>14845453
Get a vintage top time instead, they're a sleeper in terms of vintage value

>>14850074
>thinking about a first omega in space to replace it
It's your watch and your sentiments and sensibilities, but personally I would be reluctant to swap out a swiss made watch with something that has a chinese made case/bracelet/dial/hands/most-of-movement, unless you're going vintage that is.
Omega, and swatch in general, piss me off.

>>14850142
>>14850142
>>14850142

>>14848677
TAG should man up and do what they did in the 90s. Make re-issues of famous Heuer models without fucking them up too much. But that will never happen, seeing as the brand just fits a certain niche in the Louis-Vuitton-Moet-Hennessys conglomerate portfolio, rather than being a standalone watchmaker. Try as they might, like Longines with their reissues, they would most certainly fuck something up (like Longines with the fake patina on that WW reissue). They are the prototype "entry level luxury" playing the heritage brand name game.

>>14849243
Green map is best version.

>>14849300

4000 would be a good price, actually. The parts alone are worth more.

>>14850351
but why

based

>>14850432
Looks better.

>>14850367
>turdor
>worth anything past 2020 when the autism dies down like it did for panacucks
pathetic.

>>14846363
boring

>>14847109
45min chronograph, nope, 12hrs pr nothing