On “buying personalities”

[Anonymous No.14286952]

I think instead of constant shitposting this board could use some actual discussion

I constantly see people here asking for advice on how to dress to look like you’re a part of a certain culture or subculture, but the advice given and outfits worn so often miss the mark that you have to wonder if everyone here is giving advice and dressing only like what they THINK people from certain cultures and subcultures dress like. For example, I live on a farm (pic related) so I dress pretty blue collar and am constantly around people that dress the same. When people here want to dress “blue collar”, “rugged”, or “like a cowboy” they don’t dress like anybody here. Literally nobody here or anywhere in blue collar America for that matter dresses how people here seem to think they do. Nobody wears cowboy boots around while working (and very few if any wear them at all). I dress in a sort of “blue collar” way but the way I dress is also very different from folks here as I actually care about clothes whereas nobody else in this environment does. The way I dress is simply a reflection of where I live and what I grew up in, just a modem fashionable take on it instead of Walmart steel toed boots, boot cut wranglers and a tee from the local gator hunting guide (which is how farmers and cowboys actually dress).

The same can be said about a lot of aesthetics here. SLP when you’re not only a rock star but can’t play a guitar, “drain” when you aren’t actually mainlining heroin, “prep/trad/ivy” when you come from a middle class background and likely went to a middling university or community college, “sexcore” when you’re a virgin. I could go on. People asking “how do I dress ___core?” Is a daily occurrence here, people asking how to essentially buy a lifestyle. It seems so plastic, so inorganic, do you not feel like you’re wearing a costume when you live in a big city and are wearing cowboy boots with a pearl buttoned shirt?

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[Anonymous No.14286960]

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Pic related is how I dress on colder days and even then this is very much dressed up for the area. Pants are wool, just look tight because of how my legs are bent.

So what are your thoughts on trying to buy lifestyles and personalities through clothes? Why don’t you instead take inspiration from where you live, your culture, your upbringing, and put your own fashionable take on it instead of coming here and asking how to dress like a super cool cowboy (when cowboys don’t even dress like that anymore)?

[Anonymous No.14286973]

Agree 100%. Nothing says “I have no personality” louder than changing your style and tastes every two years.

[Anonymous No.14287016]

>>14286952
>do you not feel like you’re wearing a costume when you live in a big city and are wearing cowboy boots with a pearl buttoned shirt?
whats wrong with that?
we will be dead soon. why the fuk would i spend it not trying to have fun

[Anonymous No.14287020]

>>14287016
I didn’t mean to imply there was anything wrong with it, simply asking if you ever feel out of place or if you actually believe that’s what “blue collar folk” wear. Folks here love the sight of someone from a big city in cowboy boots trying to dress what they think people here dress like and it’s always a good laugh, not really mean spirited

[Anonymous No.14287133]

>>14287020
>we like to laugh at people in a non-mean spirited way
Fuck you. We get it you live in a flyover state and youre bitter that your niche look is being appropriated by city slickers. Well get in line nigger, cause every culture has/will or already is being appropriated by other cultures. It's nothing to be bitter about. Take the cowprod out of your ass and be thankful that a fashion subgenre is the only think keeping your white ass "culture" relevant

[Anonymous No.14287134]

>>14287133
Why are you so mad?
>flyover
I live in Florida

[Anonymous No.14287139]

>>14287133
Suspected boomer misses nuance as expected

[Anonymous No.14287140]

>>14287133
You some sort of chink or nigger wearing cowboy boots in a city?

[Anonymous No.14287141]

>>14286952
This is pretty true. I also feel a lot of these "____core" threads are people building large image folders on their computers and rarely get all that adventurous with their personal style.

[Anonymous No.14287145]

>>14287133
Go fuck yourself stupid nigger

[Anonymous No.14287149]

>>14287141
Which is fine, appreciating how other people and cultures dress is cool, I love looking at things like that. I don’t even have a problem with soft handed city dwellers dressing “blue collar”, however they see or define that, because it doesn’t really affect me and as long as it makes them happy then whatever. I just have to wonder if they ever feel like they’re wearing a costume, it’d be like me wearing a visvim noragi and a hakama as a white dude from the south. Sure, it looks really cool, but I’d feel like I was cosplaying. Have to wonder if kids up in New York wearing cowboy boots and embroidered western shirts ever feel the same way

Then again probably not because I can see it being a trend up there ending up with more people in NYC dressing that way than actual blue collar folks lol, and then they throw it away in a year for the next trend. That’s the problem I have with it. If you like it, like it, but hopping from subculture to subculture every year seems so fucking wrong and hollow

[Anonymous No.14287171]

>>14287134
Im mad cause this thread wreaks of incel gatekeeping. If you feel uncomfortable or phony wearing a certain style then that means that style isn't for you. Faggot OP thinks it's cool to generalize people's interests as phony or illegitimate then posts the most boring fucking fit possible that i have seen MILLIONS of people wear, while claiming it's a "reflection of where he lives"
Blow it out your ass you sanctimonious fuckhead. Your oh-so enlightened idea of wearing the reflections of your life is literally just conformity.
You're a student, dress as a student.
You're a plumber, dress as a plumber. It's bullshit.
I personally would feel phony if i got a bunch of "hard" tattoos all over my face and chest because it's such a permanent marking that, to me, would come completely unprompted, but it doesn't lessen the significance that any random tattoo on some random fuck. I don't think less of them i just think, "that's where we differ"
OP on the otherhand thinks it's gross and inorganic for anyone to do so. That's retarded. OP is retarded. And queer.

[Anonymous No.14287178]

>>14287171
You’re replying to me

I’m not gatekeeping at all in that I really do not give a shit about what you wear, I’m wondering if you can do so without feeling like you’re wearing a costume. My problem lies with people who treat it all as a trend and hop from one culture to another with the rest of the crowd. You can dress in a pretty neutral way that doesn’t have cultural connotations, not everything comes from some specific culture

Sounds to me like you’re someone in a big city who wants to LARP as a ruff and tuff cowboy and you feel like my post is calling you out, but it really isn’t, you just don’t know how to read. If you live in a city and dress that way because you genuinely enjoy the culture and aesthetic, that’s great. If you do it because it’s trendy, you’re a gigantic boner

[Anonymous No.14287182]

>>14287171
>>14287178
Also, I never presented my outfit to be some sort of amazing groundbreaking outfit, I used it as an example of a *more* fashionable take on how people here actually dress. On colder days I’ll usually just throw something like this on. Again, not groundbreaking, but just an example of fashion that isn’t a costume of some other culture. Just technical clothing

[Anonymous No.14287190]

>>14286960
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.14287193]

>>14287182
w2c jacket?

[Anonymous No.14287194]

>>14287193
Believe that’s a Uniqlo blocktech parka, would have to dig through the closet to find it but I’m 99% sure that’s what it is

[Anonymous No.14287197]

>>14287182
WHAT ARE THOOOOOOSE

[Anonymous No.14287198]

>>14287197
Those are Nike x Acronym vapormaxes

[Anonymous No.14287388]

Threads like this should be supported. And I do. Nothing else to add tho

[Anonymous No.14287404]

Just dropping in to say OP is based. This board is horrible, full of underage kids going through phases and trying to fit in with a crowd. It's rare you find people actually interested in dressing nice. Sleazecore is a good example of this "buying a lifestyle", and this is coming from someone that loves sleazecore.

[Anonymous No.14287412]

I never met anyone in my upbringing that inspired me with their clothes. It wasn't until I looked through old photos, prints, and paintings that I really thought that clothes could be cool. So I try and make my clothing look as much like that as reasonable.

[Anonymous No.14287417]

>>14287182
U fat

[Anonymous No.14287422]

I agree to an extent, there's nothing wrong with finding inspiration somewhere else, but it's when you insist on acheiving this look when your personality doesn't fit. It really does show

[Anonymous No.14287438]

>>14287404
Yeah I mean, don’t get me wrong, the sleazecore aesthetic is cool but it’s cool because of the person wearing it. The inspo pictures in sleazecore threads are of actual sleazy people who don’t *try* to dress that way, that’s just who they are. Trying to emulate that sort of lifestyle with clothing is fucking strange. Someone asks you about your outfit and what do you say? “Yeah I was inspired by people who are kind of scumbags” “but you don’t act that way? This outfit isn’t natural?” “No I just saw a picture of a guy pumping gas on the internet and thought it was cool”. Bizarre

>>14287417
I’m 6’2 and 195lbs so I’m not skinny but I wouldn’t say I’m fat either

[Anonymous No.14287443]

>>14287182
i like this fit

[Anonymous No.14287452]

>>14287133
>irrational autistic rage, the post

[Anonymous No.14287464]

>>14287438
It's intriguing honestly. I have interests that clash with my introverted personality, and I do feel like I'm playing dress up when trying to express it via fashion. I don't know how some people do it, if you can then more power to you, but I just don't get it.

[Anonymous No.14287473]

>>14287464
U look like a fat fucking loser dweeb. Real talk. Gtfo here with your tldr reddit posts. No one here likes you. Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.14287479]

>>14287473
Okay buddy pack it in

[HelterSkelter !/9ifQN9f.Q No.14287490]

>People that change styles and fashions because they are trying to fit in

That's called someone 18-22 that is trying to figure out their identity through an interest. Which is basically everyone at some point.

You're getting upset at step 1. of cultivating a new interest.

[Anonymous No.14287499]

>>14287490
Back when I got into fashion I cultivated the interest by looking into how I can make myself look better based on how things fit and what basics to buy, not what personality I can buy my way into

[Anonymous No.14287502]

>>14286960
You're fat as fuck. You're legs are repulsive.

[HelterSkelter !/9ifQN9f.Q No.14287504]

>>14287499
Likewise, but not everyone has the same level of confidence as you.

When you're thinking:

>People like me, how can I express my interests to them

someone insecure thinks

>People don't like me, maybe they will if I wear things they like.

it's the Impressing yourself/impressing others confidence divide.

[Anonymous No.14287510]

NOBODY LISTEN TO THIS LOSER CENTRAL FLORIDA ANON

HE CAN LITERALLY KNOW NOTHING, HE DOES NOT SEE FASHION ON A DAILY BASIS LIKE MOST URBAN USERS HERE WHO LIVE IN NEW YORK OR EUROPE.

FUCK FLYOVERS. FUCK CENTRAL FLORIDA DOUCHEBAGS. FUCK JANNIES. FUCK NIGGERS.

[Anonymous No.14287542]

>>14287178
>>14287182
First of all homeboy, you dress like shit. Second of all, I am not a LARPer and am in fact in a portion of the U.S. that is steeped DEEP in vaquero/native/"cowboy" culture. I see hundreds of new yorkers in faux leather boots, overpriced hats and gawdy jewelry trying to capture the "essence of the west" and you know what? They have a fucking blast. See i used to think like you, i found it irritating that rich yuppies slap on a costume and act like they know a lifestyle that is so far removed from them it may as well be in an alternate dimension. And I dressed appropriately for my life. Jeans, a t-shirt some shitty converse. Then I met a young woman who looked goth as fuck, and i asked her if she had always dressed that way, if she had always had an innate sense of dread and gloom and goth-ness. She said no. She had only been doing the goth look for a couple months but loved it so much she just kept on doing it. And it hit me.
Who gives a fuck. Dress however you want. Fake it till you make it (as it were) and it's a profound lesson I've taken with me everywhere.
Seldom is anyone born into a lifestyle they like or appreciate. Life is short, do what makes you happy.
You my friend are just bitching about vanity and shallowness. People are shallow. Omg stop the presses.

Do you see what i mean now anon? Do you see what i mean when i call you a butthurt incel faggot? Get over it dude. Have a cig and a poop. Also
Have sex.

[Anonymous No.14288016]

I agree, buying a full fit of [insert]-core is lame.

I feel as though I have a good understanding of my interests and identity and it's component parts, and as a result I can look to the distilled/idealized versions in the threads here for inspiration rather than answers. I see my own style as a blend of trad+outdoors with a little bit of punk/tech wear.

Now, all of those in their respective threads here look LARP as fuck, but taking ideas here and there to fit who you are (and keeping in mind that you have to wear this stuff to buy groceries) is the best path imo to having a fit that is truely self-expressive, and unique but not outlandish.

[Anonymous No.14288287]

>>14287510
I live in the biggest city in Florida

>>14287542
And does that girl still dress as a goth?

Your lack of any personal value placed in cultures or subcultures isn’t universal

[Anonymous No.14288305]

>>14286952
That farm looks very based

[Anonymous No.14288317]

>>14286973
It's called improving yourself

[Anonymous No.14288322]

>>14288317
Improving yourself isn’t buying into a new personality every month, improving yourself is reading books and going to the gym and practicing good hygiene and being introspective about how you interact with others and THEN looking at your wardrobe and deciding you could be wearing better fitting, more flattering pieces

Improving yourself is not deciding “I want to be a cowboy” and then being like “okay that was fun, now I want to be a rockstar”, that’s the opposite of improving yourself, that’s avoiding any sort of real improvement and throwing money at a problem hoping somebody will think you’re cooler for it (but nobody ever will)

[Anonymous No.14288328]

>>14287133
>>14287171
>>14287473
>>14287502
>>14287542
>>14287510
SEETHING sheltered city teenagers ahahahahahaha something about this cut a fucking wire in their brains hahaha

[Anonymous No.14288340]

I'm not about to dress like the people where I live, but your post is more about dressing contextually instead of just sprouting an inorganic style out of nowhere -which I totally get.

A lot of styles that I see posted here are out of context. You can't wear these fits in the vast majority of contexts you'll find yourself in.

I stand out in my area because I'm not from around here. I'm from a way cooler part of town where I would just blend in. I don't care so much though. I just do my own thing, and I don't really socialise with the yokels here. I'm comfortable with what I wear when I'm travelling from this shithole to a cool place where I'm appreciated .

It's weird, cuz when you see someone who isn't from here, we sort of let on to each other. We don't dress the same way, but you can tell they're from a cool part of town and there's a mutual recognition.

[Anonymous No.14288353]

I think this has to do with the age of /fa/ compared to other fashion boards as well. /fa/ is very young, full of kids who are trying to find an identity by buying one. The entire board used to only see goth ninja (and adjacent aesthetics) as the only acceptable way to dress fashionably, and now it’s a laughing stock on the board. Then it became SLP, now it’s more of a drain look, but there’s only always been ONE “good” way to dress as opposed to other places such as sufu in its prime. Even peak MFA was better than /fa/ ever was. /fa/ has always been a beginner board for young children who are still finding themselves and not concerned or familiar with the concept of originality and personality to the way they dress, they simply want to impress other people and they think throwing money at the problem will fix it.

[Anonymous No.14288365]

>>14288340
Literally nothing wrong with that, it’s still perfectly organic if it’s where you’re from and you took it with you. If I went to Tokyo you can bet I’d still be wearing cowboy boots if I weren’t in techwear or something. And like I said, there are context sensitive ways of dressing and then there are ways of dressing that aren’t. Yeah I’ve got things that would look silly in Los Angeles but not here, and then I have things that would look silly everywhere except to people who care about clothes. I have luchesse cowboy boots, and then I own pieces from Acronym and Undercover and used to own things like Geobaskets. I wear outfits like common projects derbies with Stephan Schneider/Peir Wu pants and shirts. This is all “fashionable” but not trying to draw from a certain culture. What I’m trying to say is that kids here think you need to spend a lot of money to look like you *do something* or *are someone* instead of just to improve their appearance

[Anonymous No.14288367]

>>14287133
lol calm down faggot

[Anonymous No.14288371]

>>14287542
I'm not sure inauthenticity is always a great thing anon

[Anonymous No.14288372]

>>14288322
Nigga read through my lines,
I never said anything about impersonation.
Improving oneself is actually to grow enough as a person to change your tastes.
Discover new things, passion, hobbies, to cultivate leads you to that path.
In the end we have the same speech.

Now about the "dress your part".
It's not about being another person but to express what you like.
Have fun with his own wardrobe and use clothes as a canvas for yourself.
Isn't this supposed to the essence of fashion ?

[Anonymous No.14288388]

then just dont reply to shitposts, its not rock science.

[Anonymous No.14288408]

>>14288372
Lol I think we agree and you’re just misinterpreting what I’m saying. I never said you should only dress within the context of how you live or how you grew up, there are plenty of ways to have a personal style without doing that. Nor did I say I have much of a problem with people up in New York dressing like a cowboy if they genuinely enjoy the culture and aesthetic. People are free to do whatever the hell they want, and if they’re passionate about something (eg: western wear) then I 100% encourage it. Like I said earlier in the thread, yeah I own blue collar/western wear but I also own things from Acronym et al. The problem I have is with inauthenticity, doing something or dressing in a way not out of a love or passion for it but because it’s the current trend and you need to fit in with everybody else for the next few months, and it’s ESPECIALLY bad (to me) if you’re doing that by dressing in a way specific to a certain culture or subculture and then throwing it away next year or month m. At the end of the day though, people are going to do what people are going to do and my opinion means fuck all. This thread wasn’t to tell people to do anything like I have some sort of authority, it was to give the perspective of somebody who actually lives on a farm surrounded by people in “””workwear””” and open a discussion about it.

So to put it short,
>Have fun with his own wardrobe and use clothes as a canvas for yourself.
>Isn't this supposed to the essence of fashion ?
Yes, it 100% is, as long as there’s passion behind it. Following the wave of people from wearing Wyatts to actual cowboy boots and then to whatever is cool next is not the essence of fashion, it’s hollow and impersonal (and fashion is best when it is personal).

[Anonymous No.14288480]

>>14286960
>lives on a farm with no fashionable human beings in a 100 mile radius
>dresses like this
>thinks this somehow makes his perspective on fashion meaningful
whatever makes you feel better about your "blue collar" aesthetic

[Anonymous No.14288490]

>>14288480
>>lives on a farm with no fashionable human beings in a 100 mile radius
That’s not fair, the gf likes sneakers

[Anonymous No.14288498]

>>14288490
disgusting and disingenuous to your redneck culture

[Anonymous No.14288518]

>>14288498
>redneck culture
When did I claim to be a redneck? When did I claim to only dress in a blue collar manner? You do know rednecks wear sneakers too right?

I think you’ve lost your reading glasses

[Anonymous No.14288605]

>>14288408
I just don't understand what your point is.
People hopping from trend to trend is something that will forever be a thing. The general populous doesn't care about fashion/music/film/art as much as the troglodytes that lurk here. And even then i guarantee 99% of this board has the shallowest knowledge of fashion.
All of your posts just sound so whiny and unsubstantial.
>wahhh yuppies don't know what REAL blue collar is. They're all just wearing costumes!
So what if are?
I know what you're gonna say:
>b-but that's okay. I never said i wasn't okay with it
Then what's your fucking point??
Trends am bad
People no real passion

It's trite. Your thread is fucking trite. I appreciate the effort of having "fashion discussion" but if all your discussing is about how much more enlightened and genuine you are compared to trend hoppers then get in line with all the other neckbeards currently winning the competition that only exists inside their minds

[Anonymous No.14288623]

>>14288605
Blat I'm deeper in that pit than u don't take me dream from me mane

[Anonymous No.14288636]

>>14288605
>Then what's your fucking point??
>Trends am bad
>People no real passion
Strange way to put it, but yes that’s my point, I don’t like people treating things like this as disposable and hopping from personality to personality every year (without actually having the sort of personality the clothing conveys), this thread was to open a discussion about that. On one side I’ve gotten “yeah I agree with you and ______” and on the other side I’ve got “FUCK YOU FAT FLYOVER IRRELEVANT REDNECK YOUR OPINION IS DUMB AND YOU DON’T KNOW FASHION”, not a single decent reply from the side of folks who want to disagree with me except a few of your posts.

Fashion doesn’t have to be shallow, you seem to be saying fashion is always and inherently shallow. Am I misinterpreting? And you seem to be English based on your vocabulary, I promise this isn’t meant to be a dig but a genuine question, how do you dress? What sort of aesthetic do you prefer?

[Anonymous No.14288690]

Is bandulu a cool brand?

[Anonymous No.14288745]

>>14288328
Just claiming you're fattie, nothing personal kid ;)
I actually grew up working on a farm myself. It was pretty industrial though

[Anonymous No.14288780]

>>14288745
I’m 6’2 and 195lbs in no world except /fa/ am I fat

I mean you can shit talk the fit all you want (I know it’s nothing special) but at least be realistic when criticizing me, that’s all I ask

[Anonymous No.14288783]

>>14288745
>>14288780
Also I’m not the guy you replied to

[Anonymous No.14288798]

>>14287133
S E E T H I N G C O P E

[Anonymous No.14288800]

>>14286960
wow this invalidated the whole post

[Anonymous No.14288812]

>>14286952
I agree with everything you said anon. That's why people on this board look so ridiculous. There is no authenticity in the way they dress. all about impressing strangers online and being different for the sake of stroking their ego.
This whole board could be summed up as "The internet's guide how to be counter-culture". It is extremely ironic. But what isn't these days?

[Anonymous No.14288814]

>>14287145
This

He's probably a stupid nigger

Nigger "culture" is about 45 yrs old max and he has the gall to talk shit.

[Anonymous No.14288859]

>>14286952
reminds me of teenagers and young people in general, especially girls in techno clubs. all of them dress the same, these windbreakers and track pants with dad shoes along with chockers, chains, belts or something else sexual. looking at them i feel like they are cosplaying or something. i check out their instagram and two years ago they were dressing like absolutely normal people and now they are carbon copy stereotypes of each other with the same type of posts. makes me sad desu ne

[Anonymous No.14289456]

>>14288800
Checked. Yeah it's too bad, I kind of agreed with him but he did the core wrong

[Anonymous No.14289481]

>>14289456
>the core
???

[Anonymous No.14289688]

>>14286973
So people like Kanye don't have personality? That's the most fucking retarded shit I've heard.

[Anonymous No.14289779]

>>14287542
I agree with most of your points, however, it is only true to a degree. What of a person who does dress as a reflection of their self? Instead of role playing? Is their experience and interpretation not cheapened by it? But then isn’t that applying a sort of holiness to the things we wear? I guess the question you need to ask yourself is this: does authenticity matter? What is authenticity? Is it behaving and acting and dressing in a way that is reflective of your surroundings? Is it being your “true” self, whatever that may be? Is your true self also a reflection of your surroundings? Do you have a true self?

Or do you simply cut and erase all nuance and character and complexity, apply a blanket statement to all of humanity, and wipe your hands of it? Everyone dress however they please. There are no roots or loyalties or representations or symbols. It’s all a big mash of meaninglessness that can be infinitely reinterpreted. This option is certainly easier, and tempting. Simple “truths” are simple to navigate. But it’s also rather boring, and cheapens the human experience. The fact remains that people attach value to an object’s aesthetics. A man who wears a ceremonial robe he inherited from his father, and a random high school kid wearing that same robe, are different entities. Are they free as people to wear it? Absolutely. Are their attachments and motivations in regards to that garment different? Absolutely. Context matters dawg, don’t forget it

[Anonymous No.14289793]

>>14286960
You fucked up. Now we know it's just your dad's farm.

[Anonymous No.14289909]

>>14289793
I am 27 years old, I do not live with my parents, nor do I work on the farm. I work in biomedical. I simply grew up in a blue collar family and live around blue collar folks