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72382464 No.72382464 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe] [rbt]

I'm having an aneurysm trying to find the perfect beginner distro to get my skeptical friends into linux, everything ends up being shit
my criteria has boiled down to:
>not ubuntu
>debian-based, since .deb packages are the most widespread thus making it easier for beginners
>easy to install newer software than found in stock debian's stable/testing repos
why doesn't this exist?

>> No.72382479

>not ubuntu

why are you making this hard on yourself, dear retard?

>> No.72382494

just use ubuntu lmao

>> No.72382496
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72382496

same problem OP,
i'm trying to find a car for my friend, but it's got to not be a fucking volvo, and oh yeah wheels are a definite out

can you help me?!?!

>> No.72382501

Check out trisquel if its still around.

>> No.72382511

>>72382479
I've come to the realization that ubuntu makes a poor first impression on people, I've helped many computer illiterates install their first distros and with ubuntu it always turns into a complaint fest about how slow and unresponsive it was, and how it felt like it was trying too hard to be an alternative instead of having its own identity
it's easy to underestimate a normie's ability to judge the faults of an OS they've never used, but they're not idiots, it subconsciously seeps in and makes the experience worse than if they just tried a proper distro with some nice default packages or something

>>72382496
this is a retarded comparison, are you implying ubuntu is the only way to use debian?

>>72382501
trisquel is ubuntu-based but thanks anyway anon

>> No.72382584

This is a stupid thread, but I'm bored.
Anyway, unironically, KDE Neon.

>> No.72382593

What's wrong with Ubuntu? Sure, GNOME is a piece of shit, but there are versions with different DEs. There's even Mint which has less of Canonical's bullshit.

>> No.72382599

literally just debian stable

>> No.72382611

>>72382464
Pop OS

>> No.72382635

>>72382511
just use Ubuntu, or Manjaro

>inb4 no deb
it's easier to install from the AUR, quite a lot more of packages

>> No.72382652

>>72382464

Linux Mint, or LMDE since you're so butthurt against Ubuntu.
Solus.
Elementary OS.
Fedora - as an absolute last option.

>> No.72382659

>>72382511

Don't give them Gnome Ubuntu as the first DE, use Budgie or Mate.

>> No.72382675

>>72382501
yeah, give them the freetard pill so none of their proprietary-driver only shit will work and come to places like this shitty site crying because linux sucks and their wifi and soundcard doesn't work.

>> No.72382679

>>72382611
Actually, this is another good choice too. I still wouldn't recommend Gnome for a starter DE.

>> No.72382702

>>72382464
this graphic you used in your post isn't going to win you a lot of sympathy, just sayin'.

>> No.72382731

This makes me wonder how good Devuan is for beginners.

>> No.72382774
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>>72382464
Mint, especially if they're used to Windows.
>but it's based on ubuntu
It's better. It really is.

>> No.72382808

>not ubuntu/ubuntu-based
>needs to be .deb based
>more up to date than debian-stable/testing
so, nothing that exists?
Ubuntu with Mate or XFCE is the best distro for all use cases fi you want normie compatibility so chad/stacy can still use spotify and tinder
or you could stop trying to get retards to install Linux, if they haven't already installed a distro then they don't want to
maybe expand your search to rpm distros like Fedora and OpenSuse, things like RPMFusion exist and most packages that are precompiled are packaged in both .deb/.rpm

>> No.72382820

>>72382611
pop os is ubuntu based
>>72382652
linux is a shitty insecure version of ubuntu, not sure about lmde, has anyone actually used it? does it even get support?
elementary is ubuntu-based, the rest are non-deb
>>72382731
probably not great but you get a high five for using devuan
>>72382774
shut up

all the other suggestions on this thread are appreciated, thanks for the help, if I find the perfect distro before the thread dies I'll post an update =)

>> No.72382830

>>72382820
>linux is a shitty insecure version of ubuntu
*linux mint is a shitty insecure version of ubuntu

>> No.72382834

>>72382820
>the perfect distro
You'll never find any such thing.

>> No.72382842
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>>72382834
you're right anon, but I can dream

>> No.72382865
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Ubuntu but with Budgie desktop

>> No.72382894

>>72382820
LMDE was made in case Ubuntu ever takes a dive and Mint has to switch to Debian. It's pretty solid.

>> No.72382898
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>>72382464
>not ubuntu
>debian-based, since .deb packages are the most widespread thus making it easier for beginners
>easy to install newer software than found in stock debian's stable/testing repos
So, something like MX Linux?

>> No.72382913

>>72382898
MX is pretty solid

>> No.72382921

>>72382464
Dont listen to anyone in this thread. Unless theyre advising zorin they need to fuck off. Zorin is the most redpilled distro.

>> No.72382922

>>72382898
I was going to suggest this too but didn't want to get called a faggot.
>why do i even come here

>> No.72382926

>>72382464
literally Xubuntu LTS with arc gtk theme

>> No.72382971

>>72382926
Zorin>>72382922
>>72382921
>>72382913
>>72382898
>>72382894
>>72382865
>>72382834
>>72382830
>>72382820
>>72382808
>>72382774
>>72382731
>>72382702
>>72382679
>>72382675
>>72382659
>>72382652
>>72382611
>>72382511
Zorin

>> No.72382992

>>72382971
shut up faggot, zorin is an ubuntu reskin

>> No.72383021

>over 9000 posts
I can't believe I'm gonna be the first one to say:
>install gentoo

/g/ is literally dead.
Goodnight sweet prince.
I use arch btw

>> No.72383169

>>72383021
this is the most reddit post I've ever seen in my entire life, it's like your entire knowledge of /g/ comes from screenshots with the ifunny logo on them

>> No.72383266

>>72382898
this shit is really good actually
great defaults, stable as a rock, a lot of scripts that make your life easier
plus it's developed by the well known antiX and MEPIS guys rather than some literal who's

>> No.72383310

>not Ubuntu
you're a fucking idiot OP

>> No.72383401

debian testing

>> No.72383428

>>72382464
Mint Xfce, Manjaro Xfce, KDE Neon, Mint Cinnamon

>>72382479
Ubuntu isn't as user friendly as Mint or Manjaro. Ubuntu is just meant to be a DE showcase.

>>72382830
Stop meme-ing. Mint is much better than Ubuntu as a desktop OS.

>> No.72383504

No distro can get you "into" linux, the command line will.

If they can't use the command line, linux is unusable. It literally is just not going to work out, even short term.
Show them how to do linux commands and fuck around with a VPS/VM first, then they can use it as their real OS.

>> No.72383557
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72383557

go with mint or LMDE

>> No.72383592

>>72382464
Just use ubuntu with unity, it's basically like a Mac

>> No.72384099

>>72382464
Solus, it's not debian based, but it's the most normie-friendly distro around.

>> No.72384286

>>72383169
U mad bro?

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>>72382511
Mint or Ubuntu
Don't be a retard. Give them something that works out of the box, stick to LTS releases. They're responsive enough.
I find Gnome aesthetic because it doesn't look like Windows. If you want something that looks like Windows, stick to Mint. KDE Neon is for intermediates because it offers a lot of control, making it not a good first distro for non-autists.

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>>72383557
I've never tried Mint, the online repository backdoor issue gets me. But I don't see how Mint could be better than UbuntuMATE. I think mate's great.

>> No.72385635

>>72382464
your friends dont need to use linux and if you convince them to use it out of your own autism youll turn them away from it forever

>> No.72385642

>>72382898
this is 4chan so people prefer to talk about the newest repackaged & rethemed & rebroken bullshit like mint and manjaro.

>> No.72385863

>>72385642
Where is elementary OS? :DDD

>> No.72385873

What's a good mail client for linux? I need something that can connect to an exchange account, and handles Outlook invites without shitting itself.

>> No.72385886

>>72382479
enjoy your bloated botnet

>> No.72385899

>>72382511
the issues you complained about seem like they are more linked to the de than the actual os. I would just give them ubuntu with xfce cause it's the closest to windows

>> No.72385918

Pop!OS faggot

>> No.72385932

>>72385863
Elementary is fucking ass and hard to use. I couldn't bare it 10 minutes before I gave up.

>> No.72385936

>>72385918
PopOS is the superior distro

>> No.72386155

>>72385886
Bloated botnet is a completely meaningless term.

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>>72382464
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