/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

quick sketch, I might score in the weekend, wish me luck /ic/

more of these things. top left is atrocious. need to work on scenes in sunlight.
bottom right is imagination I guess.

>>1707462

its alright i guess... time to start worrying about edge control man. also congrats, pay attention to dat dere anatomy.

>>1707464

nice to see people grinding

1/2

So This still needs some working tweaking hands and feet.Edges and removing some of the black and correcting the muddy colors.
I'll put it on hold until I can see the more glaring errors. "Eyes wide shut"

slefportrait from mirror 35min

Really pixelated sorry about that. So next project of sorts. Going for middle ground values opening up my color options.

So in my attempts to find a rendering methods that works for me I decided to try to render out some filigree. So I do not like it ,however, I do still need to push my idea of what rendered is further. Lots of trial and error.

>>1707464
I have absolutely no clue how to handle foilage

HALP

>>1707468
I like it, but you're right about what you need to improve on. I'd also add that you should really play around with the reflected light of the red cloth more. Certain areas that should be receiving most of the reflected red light, like the bottom of the helmet in shadow and back of the leggings have practically none.
A personal opinion, but I'd prefer you simply the sword a bit. All the round red gemstone bits make it look like a children's toy.

i think im gonna permamove to permanoobs

>>1707474
you gotta work from life my friend, or at least try from ref. the problem with ref of this kind is that forests are super high contrast, the colours and values are unexpected and it can be hard to suggest all that complex foliage without using custom brushes.

>>1707472
looking good

>>1707509
;_;

>>1707509
senpai plz

fuck i can't believe i've spent over 4 hours on this piece of shit already. it was kind of fun but also frustrating because i don't have a whole lot of experience with painting. i've also been slacking hardcore lately.

i'll probably push this a little more later if i can be bothered.

painting eyes is so annoying...

Anything i should change before i start doing details?

>>1707552

Love the colors dawg.

>>1707552
Grass under the deer is low contrast
Looks like the yellow things in the background are more intense than the grass, and it draws attention to it instead of the deer.

>>1707566
Woops pretty stupid post, it actually draws attention to the deer, but really do put more life into the grass

done this yesterday and im relatively happy about it coz it took me half the time im used to.
anyway i think it looks a bit weird , i had my face tilted a bit to the left and then frontal tilted back etc so i may have messed up
gonna make a new one today tho

>>1707552
It looks a bit thick in the legs for a deer. Currently looks closer to a dog with horns

>>1707471
great tumblr nose

>>1707543
broseph, you're doing great so far.
blend those blocked in colors more and use a textured brush to touch up

I'll probably change some things while colouring and add stuff to her hair.
Thanks again to anon for the draw over

>>1707617
Love it, the only nitpick i have is the hand on the right: it doesn't look like it's holding the staff, the fingers are too far apart and kinda rounded, do you get me?
Great work on the staff itself, the face and the detals on his clothes though

>>1707552

Update.

>>1707617
Really good, the only thing I notice is that the staff seems to be behind the hand rather than him grasping it

>>1707617

is this a "design over technique" kinda piece? because if it is i think your design needs a bit more punch and interest.think of a narrative and simplify/exaggerate aspects.

Im trying to learn how to do correct faces... I grabbed this raily method but i never can keep things symetrical and same approporiate size on each half. Every time it looks like a man even tho im trying to do a female. Im frustrated as fuck with this and want to go back to my animu. I went thru hampton and vilppu on head.

or maybe i just need to keep doing them and it will click in some time ? idk i dont feel like it will.

>>1707718
the method you use doesn't really matter all that much. just close observation. concentrate on the secondary volumes, the cheeks, cheek-bones, fore-head, that bit next to the forehead where there's a dent, the muzzle and the jaw.

there's a tendency with faces especially to focus on the features, but they rely on the secondary structure for their placement, if you get that stuff right you can just pop the features into their appropriate spot.

just finished this, took me 4hours
im pretty happy with the result

>>1707721
Alright I will keep that in mind.

any chance that you could post how you do the face in early phase ?

>>1707687
Love it

Is there some kind of program your using? Im assuming your using a digital pen

>>1707728
software doesnt matter
hardware doesnt matter

Latest stuff.

This girl (Komiyama Haruka) has very distinct features and I've tried to portray her, but I'm not there yet.

another one

>>1707760
neato, you have a light touch.

>>1707760
>>1707761
would fuck.

>>1707760
>>1707761
that fucking smile bothers me to no end.
god what the fuck.

>>1707784
:3

>>1707663
thx, totally get you, the hands are shit lel.
very nice linework, looks promising

>>1707702
opps yeah, gonna fix it. thx !

>>1707703
its for my cousin, he had a really specific description of the character so couldn't go to wild with it :/

>>1707786
you mean because it's creepy or because it's too badly done?

>>1707760
>>1707761

Watch that chin, homie.

>>1707824
not him, but looks more dopey than creepy.

>>1707901

>>1707842
finally, been looking for that image

Nowadays I have a lot of drive to draw but I've completely lost all my ideas.

I'll decide to draw but as soon as I start I'll suddenly go blank.

>>1707724
>>1707724

Sharpen your edges.

you are missing out on a fuckton of motivation and inspiration if you refuse to join permanoobs

>>1707919
i usually do everything sharp, now its too soft haha
will do that on next one
thoughts on >>1707572 's edges ?

>>1707922
shill pls go

>>1707951
pls senpai

How can I improve the composition here?
I'm unsure about the pose/placement of the flying figure. Any help is greatly appreciated.

>>1707922
id draw so fucking hard right now
but i cant because of exams

trying to paint

>>1708008

Doing these in order to get a better linework.

>>1708056

i drew this on my tablet i had for about a year and i never used because i prefer using pencil and paper. i didnt really take my time either

>>1708056
>>1708058

i think they are lovely man. srs. especially the bottom one.

>>1707663
legs dont bend like that my friend

>>1707927
not him, but pretty decent

>>1707464
Do you use any references for these? They're fantastic.

>>1708104
yeah ofcourse. they're supposed to be studies
I'm new to doing scenery in particular. i just want to get used to the basic values and stuff for now and move on higher later when i get the hang of it.

>>1707922
I'm actually too noob for permanoobs

>>1708111
same.

>>1708109
here's one more from memory. not exactly imagination but no ref either.

>>1708136
love the lighting

hmm much tasty stuff in this thread

>>1708006
its barely readable right now. Try to simplify your values into big chunks at this stage

>>1708085

Thanks.

And yes the 2nd one looks nicer which is kind of weird since I did that one on my phone, the squid sketch was done with PS but despite using a hard brush at 100% opacity and flow it looks blurrier.

This one was also done with a Note 2 but I used a finer brush.

>>1708154
damn that looks a lot better than your human portraits. keep it up.

>>1708151
I thought I've been working with big chunks so far. How should I simplify it?

>sorry im a fucking furfag

>>1708195

>>1579290

No need to thank me

>>1708164
Well... that's a first.
Thanks though.

>>1707431
potential or turd?

soooo character design... Ignore the way it's drawn, it's not my best because I just need to ask you this; is the colors fine? I want it to have those 4 colors but I don't know if they're distributed properly... What do you guys suggest? Any suggestions on where to put reds, blues and blacks?

What's a good site for textures? Textures can make a shitty drawing looks super fancy, you know...

the mask looks retarded

>>1708255
red is underrepresented i think. maybe add some symbols/outlines on his knee caps/torso? all and all its an interesting character design

Fan art pleb coming through.

>>1708255
Over designed, imo.

Tried drawing for /tg/ purposes. I started at way too low res, and only realized it after I colored the body, thinking I could leave the face for last (before the hands I guess). Don't want to finish now, and dreading restarting the picture.

>>1708305
halp

im also >>1708265

if anyone wants to critique that

Drawing from life is brutal. So far I've only done it partially sometimes I finish using a photo or what I can recall.

I've already spent 4 hours on the left piece. I know I'm slow but I would have probably rendered the whole thing in that time if I were using its photo.

Getting different reference points from both eyes is probably the worst thing for me.

Should I just close an eye and draw from that one?

>>1708255
Reminds me to a pokemon

>>1708309
The lifelike colours and lighting on that visibly unfinished figure sketch are tripping me out

>>1708316
more contrast nignig

i made this yesterday, i'm not sure what is wrong with it but i can feel the turd inside this

>>1708316
Hair like of front dude

>>1708369
the form of that roof thingy isn't very clear at all.
a few things in that area aren't very clear.

>tfw just finished "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain"
It feels weird
Should i just go straight to loomis, or practice more before?

>>1708409
I'm pretty sure most people give up because they can't apply tutorials/books so I would say practice but I'm a shitter

>>1708268
Alright, will do!

>>1708270
Wait.. How?

>>1708309
Yeah, I was going for a Mix between, Giygas, Deoxys and Sachiel.

>>1708409
I'm halfway through it, can you draw a self portrait as well as the one claimed students did after a weekend seminar in the beginning? It sure feels like I can't wont be able to and I'm doing the exercises pretty well

>>1708416
Suprisingly enough, yes.
You probaly won't catch your likeliness, which is very hard to do, but you will see it's a person, and i myself felt awesome after finishing it.
i pussied out of the eyes so they looked really dark.

My main tip is set some album or something on repeat to forget time, or you will be impatient with it. I think i ended up spending 1½ hour on it just in a different state.

My first digital drawing... any tips for a beginner?

>>1708438

only useful tip one can give a total beginner: draw ALOT. don't be afraid of failure, what's important is that you try, and fail, aloooot.

that way you will reach a point where specifc advice can be given, in no time. right now it's just way too early for that.

>>1708438
It would benefit you greatly to do as the anon said, at this stage sheer volume will yield you the best return.
Expect to suck for a while. Keep pressing on.
Flip your canvas often to view your work with a fresh unbiased eye.

im so fucking pissed its been 2 hours and i still havent started painting, i sketch ideas but theyre all uninspired comfort zone garbage.
im so mad. i wanna do a personal piece but i cant come up with anything interesting, im gonna do a still life if nothing pops out ..

>>1708316
>>1708367
Thanks for the suggestion, I just desaturated it and the contrast from the forefront characters and to teh bg is blending too much.

>>1708487
The legs look painfully unnatural. her upper leg would look better behind the other.

>>1707543
4 hours is nothing bro, keep up the good job. Were you aiming to make every shade be distinct or have you not gotten to blending it yet?

forever grayscale

>>1708255
Lugia wants to go.

So this is my first try at thumbs ever. I actually like doing this, such a drive to improve now.

I refined a bit more. How's it looking?

>>1708255
Sachiel wants his face back.

>>1708056
>>1708058
Hey do you still have those links to dynamic sketching by Peter Han?
It was posted here a while ago but warosu is dead (of all times fuck me)

Help.. Please

>>1708598
They look absolutely ridiculous.

>>1708599
why are you drawing a man with ginecomastia? is that your fetish

>>1708601

working on this painting, still got a long way to go.

>>1708606

>>1708601

>>1708369
What did you use for this?

I don''t like how my whites get mixed in to my reds

What communities are good for beginners?

I've been considering Deviantart but the community seems a bit caustic.

>>1708653
Just throw up a sketchbook on conceptart.org, and post the hell in it.

>>1708653
conceptart.org/permanoobs/some kind of sketchbook forum.

>>1708651
Nice

First time poster. I have two pics to get crits.
Please ignore the shitty camera work.

The first one is ballpoint pen.
The issue I see: With this one I know the table texture dosn't actually look like wood. Looks more like a mineral.
I also know the glass isn't straight and the fabric's petter gets corrupted in and after the glass.

>>1708685
Second one
All pencil.

The issue I see: I know it is a mess where one can't tell the table and courtain apart.
The wooden puzzle looks nothing like it is in real life.
The shadow of the glass looks like a cardboard cutaout. Its dissonant with the rest of the table.

How do I do a successful study?

>>1708687
Something that will help you while doing pencil studies and drawing in general is the notion of local tone. Say, however the light is coming, a banana is likely to be overall lighter than a pear next to it; capturing those differences through your shading will help your drawings a lot. You can even use different pencils, from harder (lighter) to softer (darker), to work among different ranges of local tones and different levels of detail in textures (which you might want to start defining as well: the rock to "feel" like a rock, the peach like a peach...); people normally use HB (HARD/BLACK) cause is right in the middle, but personally I prefer a good 3H (or even 6H) to work some stuff in very fine detail.

>>1708590
Here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2fjxx94ljvVRldROVhuNEVDZGs/edit?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2fjxx94ljvVX3Q1WWg1MTc5NEE/edit?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2fjxx94ljvVZ1hxbEVfb09HSWc/edit?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2fjxx94ljvVQUZlYkVfRXZLRlk/edit?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2fjxx94ljvVbjk0a2RoLWRDblU/edit?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2fjxx94ljvValF3dUVyWERsYUU/edit?usp=sharing

>>1708727
Directions and proportions first, then general shapes, then details.

>>1708726
that's looking great

next lvl timelapse gif of study

Decided to do some creature design. Supposed to be some alien squid thingy

>>1708726
>>1708761

can you make this shit any blacker...
You're trying to sell a design, not a mood.Not that you did that good anyway.
50% gray for background then paint whatever the fuck you want.Not fucking black...

>>1708762
>muh superior dota.

>muh opinions.

>muh strawman

>>1708577
Can't tell what's going on. I should be able to tell what's going on from the thumbnail.

>>1708780
>muh
Idiot confirmed, aside from the fact that you don't know what a "strawman" is.

And he's correct; having a very dark background actually strains the eyes a bit, and can obscure some parts of the character.
There's a reason why practically all character concepts are on a lighter background than near black.

>>1708780
Not the person you are responding too - but you can't see shit with that pitch black background.
You might be doing some abyssal zone creature feature but it still needs to be visible.

>>1708786
But i was implying he was correct.

>>1708790
Then you're clearly using "muh" wrong.
Quit proving me correct about the idiot insult.

>>1708795
but anon you just come off as a butt flustered scrub with a personality disorder.

>>1707755
I'm surprised nobody commented on this, really cool stuff/do you have a portfolio or anything online?

>>1707755
>>1708816

Actually had it open and was looking at earlier agree it's pretty cool. thought it was just a reply image.

fucksake.. every sketch im doing bores me, no nice ideas and photoshop randomly crashing twice what the hell

>>1708830
Those angles are difficult aren't they anon the placement of the head anon on the neck anon are hard indeed. i suggest to work it out.

>>1708827
wow pretty nice. i think if you pushed him in more "away form the edges." and came in and did a good hatch job it could be a nice piece. feels a bit stiff though.

>>1708740
I am aware of that. The thing that ruins my contrats is the fact is use too many pencils.

>>1708816
>>1708825
Thank you, I'm afraid my other works do not look like that one though.

It was an attempt at painting over a 3D model.
And playing around with photoshop's blending modes. Lot of textures too.

>>1708148
I like these, I'm curious to see what brush you used.

The first woman's proportions are off.
Her head has a really round shape, not an oval.

The man's mustache needs some adjustments, looks like you wanted him to frown. His neck is also too thin.

the third one is just incomplete, i don't think i can point out anything i feel you didn't already notice.

the last is the best one, just needs a few adjustments for accuracy but I feel you got her likeness down.

>>1708896
looks like it might be artrage or painter maybe

I did this, though is not complete, I think it won't get better completed, is my first drawing with a drawing tablet and I need critique about coloiring more than drawing itself, since I just did some random robot and then started coloring.

I'm having problems defining borders and importing my precision to digital, though the second is pure practice (I think) the first one is a serious problem for me.

Any advice helps.

>>1708846
>I am aware of that.
doesn't show at all. you drawing is a barely legible flat surface of same pale scratches.

top from imagination, bottom from good old posemaniacs

>>1708897
>artrage
lol no

First time posting here, also a beginner, just learning to draw eyes.

Help, draw thread. I need inspiration. I finally achived a decent level in drawing, but I can't draw. No inspiration.

>>1708918
How many sheets did you grind to achieve that?

Eh, fuck it. I'm pretty bad (and even worse with a tablet).

Just downloaded 50mb of Loomis. Hoping it helps

how I get used to drawing with tablet? I have a wacom bamboo. I just noticed no one use the bamboo one. Starting to blame my tablet for being unable to draw properly on pc. Pic related.

>>1709009
Don't blame the tablet, learning to draw on tablet is like learning to draw all over again from scratch

>>1709011
only if you're retarded.

>>1709011
I'm trying to draw with this fucking tablet for 4 fucking years, man. I'm just starting to lose my cool.

>>1709016
Ok, then get another

>>1709017
I don't have money for another. That's why I asked if here's to get used to it.

>>1709021

Are you sure it's not on mouse mode? Try Lazy Nesumi pro, it have a 30 days free trial, might help. Training hand/eye coordination all over again might be needed.

>>1709023
Yeah that might help. Also, Paint Tool Sai has a built in lazy mouse tool I believe

>>1709023
I'm sure. Going to try what you said. Maybe it's because I'm left handed (and yes, I changed the configuration to left hand). ...I just don't know anymore.

>>1709025
I'm using sai.

god damn it, fuck my everything. Might as well post to make the other anons feel better by comparison

>>1709027
Sounds similar to what happened to me before, I have an old Bamboo Fun.

I ended up messing with a bunch of options and I eventually got it to work, although I don't remember the specifics I did something along the lines of below.

What model do you have?
Have you tried uninstalling your current driver then downloading an older driver (One without the weird apps that they've attached to the newer ones.)
Have you already tried messing with the Pen and Touch properties in the Control Panel?
Have you made sure to go to Press and hold and disable the press and hold for right clicking?

--
In other news, is my anatomy and perspective totally off on this drawing I've done?

The hands are bothering me a lot, so I'll be going in and trying to make those look nice. Is there anything else that needs changing?

>>1708598
That left one is actually awesome.

no scanner...

>>1708748

How do you make something like this?

The .gif I mean.

>>1709060
>What model do you have?
I have this one, which I don't remember the name right now.
>Have you tried uninstalling your current driver then downloading an older driver (One without the weird apps that they've attached to the newer ones.)
My driver is the one that came with the CD, it's from 2009, do you think there's a older version (older than 2009)?
>Have you already tried messing with the Pen and Touch properties in the Control Panel?
Yes, I did. No effect either.
>Have you made sure to go to Press and hold and disable the press and hold for right clicking?
Yes.

Thanks for trying to help but I guess I'll need to stop eating and save money for a new tablet. A intuos, I mean. Everyone use one. It might be easier to me even to config and seek help.

>>1709074
Forgot pic, shit.

from memory...is it somewhat accurate?

>>1709009
Don't blame your equipment..
I drew this with my old bamboo fun small from 2007..
Post some of your drawings and tell us why the tablet ruins it

>>1709074
Shoot, well if you haven't updated the drivers since the 2009 version you should give that a shot. I figured that you already updated them from the site.

Look up whatever version that tablet is and google around too if you haven't already. It looks like a Bamboo Pen and Touch like you put originally. If it has a little red thing it's that, but if it's green then it's a Bamboo Connect

http://us.wacom.com/en/support/legacy-drivers/

Also, have you tried using it on different software? It's possible that SAI just isn't picking up that you're using a tablet. It's something that's possible. I just looked it up and looks like there are other people that have issues with using SAI and fixes:

http://iridogorgia.deviantart.com/journal/Pressure-Sensitivity-in-Paint-Tool-SAI-230905902

>>1709079
This.

Also I used to have this tablet. It's been a trusty friend of mine for some time.

>>1709079
I wouldn't, if wasn't for the fact that I'm trying to draw with this for years. I would post a drawing, if I had any. I never managed to draw anything besides sticky figures on computer.

>>1709082
Downloading lastest drive. I tried ps, gimp, even mspaint. Thing is, I can blend with sai, but I can't trace. Like I said, I never managed to draw anything besides sticky figures.

>>1709084
Guess I just don't have what it takes to be digital artist then.

>>1709079
painting is easy on any tablet.

Getting good lineart, now that's hard as shit on a traditional pen tablet.

>>1709086
I'm working on the assumption that your tablet is working on mouse mode. Are your lines all only one size? Also, MSpaint doesn't work with pressure sensitivity iirc

But yeah, if you can actually make tapered lines and go from skinny to thick by applying pressure then you need to practice, because at that point it's not the tablet but you. Go look at the sticky and its resources under digital painting if that's the case.

Otherwise, google some more things if the links I've given you don't work. Checking out the sticky is still a good idea either way though, if you haven't already.

>>1708255
The demon was sent to settle a legal dispute between two men. The loser, enraged, struck at the beast and subject to full penalty of the demon's wrath....

>>1709091
Dude, are you same >>1709082? Because I installed the lastest drive for my tablet and now it simply don't wrk anymre. It's flashing it white light. That's it. I give up.

>>1709094
Yeah those are me. Well, that wasn't supposed to happen. I think it's kind of early to give up though, but if you want to you can.

I looked it up using google and there are tons of different fixes though, like restarting your computer, removing the driver update and just downgrading. Something to check out if you decide to go forward.

>>1708915
Nice dude, but I thought it was a lady at first...

>>1709100
The tablet just doesn't work anymore at all. Fuck, at least before I could blend. Guess that's life. It's just not to be.

>>1709108
Shoot man, I'm real sorry that it ended up that way.
I'm guessing you checked it out and everything? Cables and whatever? I think there's gotta be a way to fix it, either that or it shorted out on its own. Hope you get it sorted out

>>1709114
Yes, checked cables and all. Uninstalled all the new drives I downloaded today and restarted pc. Nothing. Simply don't work anymore.

>>1709116
Is the flashing still there right now and it just doesn't register the pen?

Try to strip the drives completely if you haven't already, so there's no trace of them on your computer.
Before you do that make sure you remove the backups it makes on the Bamboo preference utility. Then uninstall. Don't forget to unplug your tablet.

I'm starting to think that maybe you installed the wrong drivers? If you still have the 2009 disc put that in, but if not go check what it says under your tablet and it should say what version it is. After that go to the Wacom site and get one from there and reinstall, restart, plug it in and see if it gets detected. Drop me a line, I don't want to keep on clogging up this thread with troubleshooting haha

>>1709116
Is the flashing still there right now and it just doesn't register the pen?

Try to strip the drives completely if you haven't already, so there's no trace of them on your computer.
Before you do that make sure you remove the backups it makes on the Bamboo preference utility. Then uninstall. Don't forget to unplug your tablet.

I'm starting to think that maybe you installed the wrong drivers? If you still have the 2009 disc put that in, but if not go check what it says under your tablet and it should say what version it is. After that go to the Wacom site and get one from there and reinstall, restart, plug it in and see if it gets detected.

>>1708833
thanks,the halfassed hatching is there just to remember the lightsources (top and back rim light) in case i wanrted to paint it. Yes hes stiff as fuck , im gonna go back to anatomy and gesture these days.

I´ve done this in less than 5 minutes....opinion?

>>1709089
I agree it's hard to do nice lineart.
But why didn't this anon stick with painting..

>>1709108
I'm really sorry to hear that dude..

>>1709145
Looks like something someone made in less than 5 minutes.

>>1709145
Terrible proportions and anatomy, nonexistant deph and nonsensical lighting.

>>1708918
how many sheets ? I don't know, i try to do a little every day :3

>>1709059
These lines feel a bit first drafty, try and knock them out in a more fluid motion. It looks like you've tried very hard to do it slowly in one motion and gotten jittery in bits.

You've actually done a decent job of the shadows but I think you're mixing styles you need to decide on cartoon or more realistic because right now it's sitting somewhere in between the two.

Also I'm not sure if this is in addition to the stretched anatomy but the definition between neck and shoulders is non-existent, similarly it seems you've added an extra bend in the spine, it's fine to elongate the body but if you add an extra bend it looks unnatural. But seriously keep at it and it will look tops don't knock yourself down and don't leave this work like it is refine it and you'll have something magical.

Probably never gonna finish this. I'm such impatient to draw.. I miss old paint

>>1709101

Welp... This is creepy. Gonna remove all my shit from the internet now.

thanks, you really made my day. This is actually the first time i posted anything on this board. Like being in a christian summer camp you just kinda get used to seeing people who have been in this business for years rape younger amateurs. I'll make sure to take your critique to heart.

This was a request from a friend who wanted an anime look. But, as lurking around on this board thought me, striving for realism and Loomis like levels of competence are way more important, and thus, i never really had that phase of "drawing shitty animu" like many others on this board

>>1709230
in regards to
>>1709177

dead bord
everyone having an extended party over at permanoobs

>>1709059
I can't really tell what is going on.. Is he laying on a blue sheet? Is he swimming?
I don't know if this is helpful in any way.
But don't lose hope anon, you'll get there

wtf am I doing wrong.No mather what I do he keeps looking like 50 Cent.
>inb4 all black people look alike

Only been going a few months now. Loomis'd myself half to death. Thought I'd better get a basic grasp on realistic anatomy before simplifying it.
But, yeah. A quick dodgy anatomy attempt from memory.
I realise I've undersized the hips (and the waist) and the arms are a bit too short. Can't see much else particularly wrong but I'm sure there is.

i want to ask if im ready to study/use color in my still lifes or should I stick to gayscale still ?

>>1709251
try overlaying them... Figure out where the small differences are, then fix them.
for eksample the guy in the picture is smiling slightly, your drawing looks dead serious

>>1709253
You're off to a good start.

His thighs are too thin. They're almost thinner than the radius of the calf muscles.

>>1709177
Actually it´s my first painting with "acrylic colours mixed with water"
Also...it´s my first act and I didn´t know what to do with neck and shoulders
Painting is my new hobby and I´m trying to find my technique and learn something but flippancy is my worst enemy

>>1709253
>useing loomis to learn anatomy

>>1709253
the body in general is too small or rather the head's too big. Remember that the wrists end at the base of the dick. Not bad though for being from memory. Gotta give those thighs more mass.

>>1709262
Ah, right. Quite possibly a result of the hips being too narrow.

>>1709270
Loomis for proportions and landmarks, references for actual anatomy.

>>1709279
yeah thats also stupid.

>>1709251
Overlap them.

>>1709278
Right, thanks. More than likely the head. I tend to have difficulty working out proportions from the head, so I usually judge the head size from the distance from nipples to navel and throw it in last.

>>1709283
Any suggestions on what I should use, then?

>>1709264
>"acrylic mixed with water"
>clearly digital
wut?

>>1709288
hampton and vilppu to see how the muscles connect then you can use photos. Loomis is good for head construction tho but hampton adds more to it.

>>1709275
why are you using light gray lines on a darker gray background?
Nice flowing lines, i've noticed your sketches before, do you ever render any of them?

>>1709257
guise.

>>1709291
I just mixed acrylic colour and water because I don´t have watercolours

>>1709299
>do you ever render any of them?
I rarely do that because I'm lazy.

I sketch with white on 50% gray, so I could quickly jump into.. rendering. To start doing that more often and feel less distracted I recently set up some PS Actions so wouldn't have to fiddle with Layers panel.

>>1709309
Dude, you don't come here and tell me
>this
>>1709059
is acryllic
>.>

>>1709302
>>1709257
ive never done still lives in greyscale , i just started straight colour, i think theres no problem if you go with it

done some gesture and sketched random goblin shit , might make a scene out of it

>>1709315
thanks.

(lovely skeches, saved)

I know I'm doing a bunch of things wrong but holy shit it seems like it's taking forever for me to improve.

>>1709314
I´m not dude ....and try to mix it...

>>1709275
>>1709312
I really like your sketch lines

>>1709314
that guy probably choose a wrong post, or is the worst troll ever, since I( a different anon) was the guy that drew that, and yes, it is digital

>>1709328
Oh thank god you're here...
I was beginning to worry XD
>>1709245
Also, was this helpful in any way?

>>1709332
yes, it helped a lot, i think im gonna go back to doing a shitton of gesture drawings so my poses stop looking so boring, and also focus more on anatomy. i really appreciate you not only pointing these things out to me, but taking the time to draw a helpful comparison. if i ever met you on the street, i'd totally give you a backalley blowjob or something.

>>1709328

>>1709337
plot twist
the anon is a female

>>1709328
and yes....wrong post....so embarrassing...I´m hiding under the blanket

>>1709346
that gif XD..
but yea, female

>>1708901
pls guise ;_;

>>1709354
thats fine, backalley cunnilingus just isn't as fun, but hey, no throat pain...
by the way, do you have a place where you post art online?

>>1709364
focus more on the composition and values of the entire drawing before you do the small scratches on the surface of the metal.
It also it seems like you're lacking a specific light source.
If you want the eyes to seem more glowing paint the center white.
And on the yellow parts of the robot use an orange or green tone for shadows instead of just darkening and desaturating the yellow

>>1709365
You don't need to do any of that for me, I'm happy to help

Primarily deviantart
http://signetveitan.deviantart.com/

Guys if i read books and take drawing seriously, can i git gud faster than people who just started with drawing at a young age and only started actually reading at a much later age?

>>1709402
idk there was a girl a friend of mine and she was painting for 7 years, went to an art school but only for a year. Well I was drawing from imagination for 3 years and it was just for fun I was worse then her. Now I read some books and watched some videos done some studies and took drawing seriously and im already better then her and thats only 3 months. Shes still stuck to drawing fucking birds, tea drinking red nosed girls with 0 anatomy knowlege.

>>1707431
>cghub.com/scripts/category/brushes-1/
Anyone still have them?

>>1709402

you can quite good quite fast if you are smart about it and work hard. and treat it like a fulltime job. don't want to toot my own horn too much but i'm speaking from experience.

>>1709315
I just started this still life with color and im lost. I cant figure out how to make the same color as i see IRL.

>>1707431

>>1709463

stick to values only for a while. bw. forget color for the next 6-9 months.

>>1709478
how do I know its the time to start color ?

>>1709369
thanks

>>1709488

once you learn to see, combine and extrapolate values. you need a strong understand of values in order to smoothly transition into color. it took me a LONG time and i thought i would never quite figure color out, but because i had painted in greyscale for a long time it felt like a smooth transition eventually.

>>1709498
alrite will stick to gayscale. Thanks.

This is for a drawthread in /v/. Can anyone critique it?

>>1709510
very, very stiff. You need to start doing gesture exercises daily.

>>1708990
always.... always a fucking eye

>>1709510
Proportions, anatomy, perspective, symbol drawing, chicken scratch, no pelvis, no ribcage, sausage legs, flat drawing, lack of fundamentals or forms.
TL;DR Read the fucking sticky.
>Muh style!
You can fuck off right back to /v/

>>1709514
He forgot the signature though

>>1709516

>>1709515
Never said anything about "muh style" excusing anything

thanks for the advice though

>>1709549
How I learn to give this texture to reptiles? I was trying to paint a croc earlier. Very nice anyway.

>>1709551
Thing is, I haven't started giving him any texture yet. When it's done he'll be all scale-y.

Modeled in about 7 layers each with a lighter value, not sure if that could be of use.

>>1709079
>I drew this with my old bamboo fun small from 2007..

Wtf are you talking about? You finished this like a month ago.You posted the whole process. I remember, because I told you that the light needed to reflect off his skin into darker parts.

some bad dumb thumbs, gasp they were actually fun to draw.

>>1709581
reading comprehension/10

>>1709549
finished

>>1709582
last one.

>>1709588
>>1709553
So, you actually used a texure insead of making one? Don't want to sound offesive or anything.

>>1709145
You definitely need to invest more time on the next one.

>>1709076
dude what the fuck.
I got a Bamboo Create for 90 USD.
its fairly bigger than that

>>1709598
Yeah, I got lazy, I feel like it wouldn't be worth the effort as it would probably take over an hour to finish. Might get to it at some point when I have time though.

>>1709588
sup big smoke

blaaargh

>>1709588
Grove St for life Nigga

>>1709623

>>1709623
Man i remember i did something similar to this a while back and some people gave me good crits on the horrible comp etc..

I would say the same thing here. Maybe make the foucus the tree and put some wild life or something there.

I would make the foreground the Rocks and Turn it into one of those cool plateaus that are only found in africa.

i like how you handled it overall though. thumb reads ok as far as tones etc.. .that comp though.

>>1709625

>>1709626

>>1709630

>>1709619
That's sweet, you dumbfuck.

>>1709639
asking for a fight?

>>1709636

>>1709643
Nah, I had enough of your shitposting. Please stop.

>>1709514
so? I've only just started learning yesterday...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNyiSLFjXtY
Here is the video i watched to get the general idea, once I knew how to use Gimp effectively, the whole thing took a little over 1 hour and was very enjoyable. I'd dabbled with music production for a number of years but never really got good at it, I think I will find art a whole lot easier.

>>1709516
Keep being mad.

>>1709648

>>1709658
> art a whole lot easier
good luck with that

>>1709658
You will not do well here faggot. Enjoy you upcuming butthurt

>>1709658 #
You will not do well here faggot. Enjoy youre upcuming butthurt

>>1709623

like all of your work, it's juicy in thumb, but a fucking disaster fullsize

>>1709667
lol nah i think i'll just leave because it is full of negative people, and in my experience being creative takes positivity.

>>1709671
Good dog.

>>1709671

>creative
>positive
>on /ic/

we're all on the brink of a mass-murder-suicide here buddy.

>>1707472
if you mastered values and form structure now you could be good!

>>1709677
Awh gosh darn it /ic/ can't we just leave the poor little wee newfaggot alone? You're all a buncha negative meanies always mad and upset about that one eye beginners seem to be attracted to just like drawing Sonic.

Leave Billy Alone!

>>1709681

I figure I should ask here

I'm an art student

Been one for a semester and giving 100% in every assignment and it feels like I haven't learned a damn thing. I did studies with loomis the semester before when I was a business student and I feel I learned more and is moving towards what I want to be able to do.

What can a struggling mediocre artist do to learn and improve and have fun when art classes are doing everything but?

>>1709694

art education is a complete disaster sadly. if i was you and i was comitted to becoming a pro artist and "making it" asap, i would drop the fuck out and self teach hardcore.

>>1709696
>>1709694
art schools are only good for marketing yourself
not necessarily for learning

>>1709696
I had been self teaching, however I need to get a degree. I'm 22, been 4 different majors. I need something to show for it.

It feels like I spend so much time doing ctrl paint stuff or loomising, meanwhile some you see those "show your work over the years" and that big jump never wants to happen

>>1709702

>>1709709
exactly

loomis isn't pushing me anyhwere fast enough

classes aren't pushing me at all

>>1709702
you having a laugh buddy?
you think art is a fucking joke?
theres no jump anywhere and learning that fact is the first step to getting good

BEAGUUHGHH DDDZDZDZDZDZ

>>1708532
>>1708581
see
>>1708415
I already said it as inspired by these things. Well not Lugia. It isn't the first creature to have flat hands.

>>1709725
I know you've seen those "progress in art over the years" images posted here

And there's always that giant jump from meh to wow in like a month

I'm trying to get back into drawing people, but it's very hard. All my drawings feel awkward and stiff.

Constructive crits, redlines, all would be VERY appreciated. I'll take whatever you got, throw it at me. ANYTHING!

Most of the muscles will be painted over (more builtfat than ripped, but I needed to know where the muscles would be).

Specific places I really need feedback
-The pectorals
-The ankle/feet
- The hands: Some of his fingers are amputated and I'm finding it really hard to draw them. Basically the ring fingers at the second joint, both pinkies to to the first joint.

>>1709702
this must be joke
must be

>>1709818
How is anything I said I ajoke

I'm trying to improve my art, I'm trying new things, I'm in classes, and I'm loomising and I'm not seeing any progress.

hey guys, this is a little black and white piece I'm working on. Hoping /ic/ can give me some tips before I start the shading.

The grey lines are mostly just references for shading.

>>1709832

>>1709326
more random shit for your viewing pleasure. thanks. calling it a night.

messing around in air brush, i know the perspective is a shit but p neato

>>1709854
fuck me

Holy crap. Someone wanna start a new thread?

I-i could try, i've never done it though...

>>1709947
uhhh I did it. >>1709954

>>1709177
How do I write a good and thought out critique like yours?

>>1708651
this is sick

>>1710936

I appreciate that. Here's another I did recently, first time digitally coloring an ink drawing.