/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3193487
Like that, very clean. Cringe at "line art" though.

>>3193510
Well, what do you call it then?

>>3193528
Drawing.

>>3193488
Source?

>>3193487
Nice linewidth variety. I like the black vs. the horns vs the nice clean skin. Big fan of black and white.

>>3193632
Te hands are dreaful though, left one fingers look deformed and the other one is badly drawn as a fist.

>>3193608
https://twitter.com/kinucakes

she has her twitter, tumblr, and an nsfw tumblr. Got it from the nsfw one but you can search through there to find it easily

she also drew the op

This is probably my best line art to date. It's a year old and I started coloring it, but HDD crashed and I need to start over.

Anything I should fix?

>>3193663
pretty good

>>3193600
Holy shit love it, artist?

>>3193739
>>3193662

>>3193755
damn thats neato

>>3193755
Whens the next chapter of you're manga

>>3193739
>>3193743
like 90% sure >>3193600 isn't by kinucakes

>>3193603
Artist?

>>3193537
>Can we get a DRAWING thread?
ROFL

>>3193537

>>3193487

>>3193487
ok

>>3193487
here's more

>>3193487
here's another one

>>3193487
I like this one the best. you just have to be extremely autistic to do this

>>3194033
oh i read it wrong.

https://twitter.com/hanzo1011

>>3194040
https://twitter.com/dabIord

>>3193601
@nr_kura on twitter.

Good shit.

>>3193816
your. dumb dumb.

Fuck am I glad someone made a lineart thread, exactly what I was looking for.

Can anyone spare some tips for me? I'm a huge fan of Sakurai Energy's lineart in their doujins, so I tried to trace to see how close I can mimic it but the quality difference is apparent.
I tried to limit myself to 1 stroke per line(since I'm assuming the artist got most of their lines in one stroke) and was bouncing between brush sizes 2-5, but didn't really keep a close eye to which I used the most. Only used the G-pen that's displayed for the drawing.
And also obviously didn't attempt to do the highlights/screentones since I'm just focusing on the lines for now.

>>3194860
This is a hard one to answer. I've done some really close copies before, but something about tracing almost makes that harder? Maybe not, maybe I just don't have enough practice with tracing.

But I suggest you give copying a try, even if you do it in a sort of math way. Like dragging lines across the reference to your copy, so you know where things like chins, or hair lines, or eyes begin, and then drop vertical lines downward to work out the width of shoulders and stuff like that.

I'm not sure how much help that does to teach you drawing, but it'll at least ingrain a bit of the artist you're copying's style into your memory or muscle memory.

If you can copy using construction you'll learn a bit more.

Attached is an example of a copy practice I did earlier this year using the more technical methods. You can easily find the original on the internet and compare it, it's from Gunsmith Cats.

>>3194860
Here I found the original, the reference that I used.

>>3194860
I cheated the back of the chair, I don't remember why not but if I had to guess it was because it was probably taking too long to get those two curving lines perfect, and the chair isn't really important.

>>3194860
i think your resolution is low. It should be 300 dpi. Your lines look jagged.

>>3194874
>>3194877
Thank you for the advice! But I'm not trying to copy the artist's artstyle itself, if anything I'm trying to copy the way they lineart. The biggest quality I'd like to adopt is how they vary their line weight in their doujins. So I was wondering if anyone here had like, brush setting recommendations or if they could tell something was off with how I'm making my strokes compared to the OG artist.
Btw I like your study, yours looks a lot cleaner than the original and it's nice. Tho you should work on the hair, the way the original does split/loose hairs looks a lot more natural and realistic.

>>3194885
Oh you're right! I forgot to change the DPI and left it at 72. I'll check right now how much difference that makes. I thought that was just a setting with the brush.

>>3194890
I will not work on it again it's from the beginning of this year. But I appreciate that you enjoyed it. It looks cleaner because mine is in sai and the original is in real ink and tone.

>>3194890
Also though, I appreciate your loose hairs comment for two reasons. 1, you're right. But 2. it reminds me advice to give you. The reason my hair looks less loose than the original is because it's actually sticking to a pattern.

I used shapes to get the shape of the hair, then added the splits only afterwards, which I think is somewhat how the original artist does it to, it gives it that look. But as you pointed out, he made them a bit wispier, more realistic. Mostly just by adding white.

>>3194860
you got almost as close as you're going to get. The smaller lines line on her face (the blushing cheeks, the detail lines on her clothes that are shading lines, not outlines) you could mimic a little better by using a smaller brush, or by cheating and lightening the color from black to a grey.

You said you used a size 2, so you may have to raise the resolution in order to do it, if you use the smaller brush method.

Your quality would also have been higher if you did the trace with a higher resolution, you wouldn't see any pixel jags.

Other than that, you did as good a job as anyone could hope for.

I see in the navigator window that you only used a bit of your canvas. You could flip the canvas, then flip the image too, so that you have the image be horizontal. Then you could size it up. But I'm not sure it would look good, it might just make it look more pixelated.

Anyway, I'm going to assume it took you a long time to do this, so you might just want to be happy with what you have done, and try these tips for next time.

does anyone have tips on using a G-pen for an absolute beginner? what bad habits should i avoid?

>>3194955
A real one? Yah, smooth lines you'll have to learn just by doing, but one biiiig tip, WATCH WHERE YOU REST YOUR HAND. Cause you WILL smear ink if you're not used to a dip pen.

Also, if the ink isn't running cause its old or something, you can add a touch of water.

And nibs wear out faster than people think, that's important too. So check the nib to make sure it's not split, if it keeps dropping ink.

That's about it!

>>3194997
yep, a real one, thanks. i'm using pretty thick copy paper but the ink is still feathering. any recommendations for paper? also, what do people usually do if the hole of the ink bottle is too small?

>>3195002
mm yah paper is important. if its too thin you'll tear it, and if its not the right kind it'll feather like you said

you have to find paper that was made for ink

check out your art store and when you pick up a sketchbook it should say on the back whether it was made for ink or marker or etc. what it can hold.

there are lots of good brands out there.

After you've used some paper that works you'll get a good feel/idea of what paper to use with real ink

>>3195002
The whole in your bottle is too small? I've never come across that problem, but you could always transfer the ink into another sealed container. Anything that seals can hold ink.

>>3195002
To be more specific about the paper, probably anything with a lot of pounds that is smooth, will work for ink. like 110lbs paper sketchbook with smooth surface paper. but yah it'll say on the back or the inside if it can be used for ink

>>3194860
You have to consider the reference images are usually done at higher resolutions/sizes and are later resized making them look smoother.

>>3195005
i get too precious with sketchbooks and my drawings end up too stiff. i'm just looking for the cheapest ream of paper that can handle ink. so far laserprint paper hasn't held up either. more trial and error ahead i guess.

>>3195007
i'm using something called china ink. is that not for nib pens? i also have some kuretake ink but i'm using this cheap one while i'm getting the bad drawings out of the way. i also just don't like the idea of leaving the bottle open because dust gets in. you guys really just dip straight from the bottle?

>>3193537
Wow you're a fucking retard

>>3194076
Great drawing except it's ruined by the anime face.

I'm really shitty with lineart, do you guys have some ressources/ particular practices to get better?

>>3194860
One thing I know anon, is that with lineart for mangas, ect; the publisher/artist reduces the arts size by 15% so maybe try a size reduction and see if that brings you closer to the original

>>3194860
You need to change the setting of the brush you used for hatching and eyelashes. It needs to be smaller and with pointy start and end. You can do it changing the size "option" or the "starting and ending" option. Give it a try.

>>3195066
sauce?

>>3195046
Had you considered DOING LINEART

>>3195180
Nadya Rusheva, a Soviet prodigy artist who died at 17.

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>>3195030
unfortunately the cheapest paper that can handle ink is still going to be fairly high quality paper. You will need to get over your precious feelings about sketchbooks because to my knowledge that's the easiest source of a lot of paper for ink.

There are certain brands that are good, you don't have to spend a ton of money for a good sketchbook if you go to a real art store and stay away from places like Michaels.

>>3195030
Well, I have a giant bottle of india ink,but generally yes. I use the smaller bottles to dip into. I dip right into the bottle. But you don't have to dip into the bottle if you don't want to, you could always use a pallete with deeper cups, or a small plastic bowl used for ink etc.

I know it's an animation but still.

>only like sketching and inking
>hate coloring and painting
I'm glad there are others who appreciate colorless drawings. I'm aware normies, i.e. standard audience, will almost always prefer pretty colors over great shapes and lines though.

>>3194090
That level of pixel art sure does take dedication.

>>3195406
What the FUCK

>>3195406
you sick fuck

>>3194090
What' cool is you can actually watch this artist drawing on youtube. It's pretty hypnotic from what I remember.

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>>3195437

>>3195406
oh no...

>>3195406
>I know it's an animation but still.
>>>
whaaaaaaaaatt

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>>3195547
What? It's pretty good line work.

>>3195592
i find this pretty hot.

>>3193606
sauce?

>>3195592
for what its worth i too appreciate this fetish and think its wonderful work.

>>3195604
Even Amundsen

>>3195207
>Eu03
https://twitter.com/ClickAgain
Didn't know who this was, found twitter and started to save alot of shit

>>3195017
>>3195083
I always forget to do this, thank you for the advice fellas. I've been working in 350 and 600 DPI for starters today, might scale next study up as well.

>>3195137
Yeah I was being a hardass about switching my brush sizes, mostly cause I'm hoping I can find a brush setting that can do everything itself through like, just pen pressure, but I'm probably gonna have to get used to switching between brush sizes.

>>3195406
I don't like it very much.

>>3195592
>>3195406
That person has some skill but that fetish is weird as shit. Makes me wonder how much they earn with something as niche as that

>>3195777
https://modeseven.deviantart.com/gallery/
Dude has a DevianTart. Makes 6/10 work, probably could slide by just making hot gurls with big boobys who are sluts.

>>3195777
He draws all sorts of things I'm sure he's making a comfortable amount.

>>3195406
did the artist get paid to make this or what jeez

I don't know how 4chan works, but I heard this is a great place to get critiques. Idk if I'm doing this right, but just lemme know.

>>3195963
Dude, what are you doing, you didn't buy a tripcode for this thread, enjoy your permanent ban.

Suck my ink!

>>3196104
Thank you for promoting World Jewry

>>3196104

>>3194860
please, what manga is that from?

>>3194877
That's Rally Vincent

>>3196174
It's Sakurai Energy's work, from one of his comics in the Kairakuten magazine(monthly doujin magazine that publishes like 15-20 page doujins from like 15 different artist, not a bad magazine to check out to find new doujin artist.) I forgot what month that strip was from, but he has a lot of Touhou doujinshis if that's your thing.

I drew this tiger tank for my high school art final. Im not into anime though. If you want more art of mine i can post more.

>>3193491
Two of these characters look exactly the same.

>>3195592
>>3195406

>>3196997
they kind of are iirc.

>>3196990
Go through Scott Robertsons "How to draw," it will change your life.

>>3193537
YOU GOT HIM SO GOOD BRO

Can anyone tell me how to make my line art look like pic related in CSP?

>>3193662

The slight touch of tumblr in her art is annoying

is it still lineart when its just a stage?

>>3195406
Mode seven operates on a level a mortal like myself can't hope to reach

>>3195242
Sorry Anon, but I don't understand what the fuck is going on in that lineart.

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>>3200788
That shit is exactly what I wanna do. So good.

Let's get the thread back on track shall we.

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>>3201031
/dump

>>3201033

>>3201034

the lineart in this one is pretty dope.

I hope you don't mind me asking here, since it's a lineart thread: what kind of tools do you think Shimura is using for her lineart? I like how she colors it, but I can't tell in some places if she used some kind of ink or colored pencils.

>>3201031
I am inspired, who is da artist?
>>3194755
>>3201024
and for these

>>3201094
watercolor pencils ?

>>3201118
read the titles ?

>>3201094
Looks like ink to me. Watercolor pencils would look less sharp when activated with water.

>>3201139
Look at the eyes of the top left one, and the interior of the waist & arm of the bottom left one, it's not flat enough to be ink. I think it's mixed. Lines on the dress of the middle one do look like ink on a pen.

>>3201135
btw I'm dumb. This is a page from Peplum by Blutch.

>>3201118
>I am inspired, who is da artist?
you will love this
https://mega.nz/#F!MAsGnbrA

>>3201168
sorry, try this
https://mega.nz/#F!MAsGnbrA!72plni9ynGg1mWTnkOVuBQ

>>3201132
It seems like she uses them in some drawings but she keeps swapping things up.
>>3201139
>>3201148
Yeah, that's what mostly caused my dilemma too. After looking at more photos, I'm going to assume her process is:
>sketch out idea in notebook
>do the drawing in ink
>watercolors time
>add weight to lines using a black colored pencil or something similar
>fix things up with colored pencils and add highlights
The thing that confused me the most is that thin red/orange pen she uses because I haven't seen something like that often, I'll look into it.

here this some of my stuff.

last one

previous one I posted on a diff thread was in blue rough outline

>>3201034
Jesus fuck. This looks inhuman to create.

>>3201170
isn't the red/orange just sepia ? I'm thinking it's sepia ink, then watercolor, and black (watercolor?) pencil to add line weight/contours, like you said.
I don't see no highlights, just the standard watercolor blank paper light tho.
My problem is if it is actually pencil, or just large enough pen and the thick & rough watercolor paper.

>>3201191
>I don't see no highlights, just the standard watercolor blank paper light tho.
Oh yeah, that was based on another drawing from her that I didn't post here.
>My problem is if it is actually pencil, or just large enough pen and the thick & rough watercolor paper.
That was confusing me too, but it seems she uses B pencils for that and Sakura Pigma Micron pens for some of the lines, but there's a lot of mixed stuff depending on the drawing.

>>3201174
Relying on direction of the hatching for value doesn't look good. It prevents the actual apparition of volume. learn to thicken your lines, or cross, or both, but let your lines follow the directions of the plane you're shadowing.

look at pic related and those
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>>3200785
this one in particular, how the stone looks flat compared to the tiger

>>3193600
is that a jojo reference?

>>3195406
>all this modeseven disgust
Is it weird to like this shit? Its fine if its well drawn like this.

How do I even learn lineart?

>>3201393
I DONT KNOOOOOW

>>3201389
prissy newfags.
remember that this place is reddit 2.0 now

I always felt like my lineart could be much better. I've always been impressed by Brekkist's linework. I don't know how you can get lines that damn smooth and precise.

>>3201393
Does anyone have an actual answer to this? any practice techniques or something?

>>3201422
ctrl+z until you get it right

>>3201196
Holy shit this is godlike.

>>3201448
Nothing too specific, you basically need
>good line quality
(draw from your shoulder, hands loose but firm)
>know your planes
(always follow the direction, the energy, the contour - understand your form)
>know how to create tone using line
(lines clump together to create shapes, spacing influences value, line thickness and so on)

Things like texture and areas of high detail vs areas of rest are important to keep in mind.
I'd say Dynamic sketching (/drawabox) is a good start and from there do a lot of experimenting.
It's a technique that's hard on draftsmanship but brings results.

>>3201585
Is that your work? Blog? Its really fucking amazing I love it. Did you do that with traditional stuff?

>>3201585
love it. Any artists that influence you?

Also, blog.

>>3201585
Very good anon.

>>3201196
What kind of tools are used to draw like that? I've never seen it replicated by modern day artists and I assume it's not because of difficulty. Is it just too tedious?

>>3201585
Thanks anon

what sort of photoshop/corel painter brushes should i be using to replicate ink for linearting?

>>3195406
God smite thee

>>3202273
I think I'm mystified by Bernie Wrightson's Frankenstein drawings because despite the scenes often being filled to the brim with bottles and papers and tiny detail elements, the compositions are so well thought out that the viewer has no problem seeing the most important information first, before getting lost in the intricate details. A reminder to never forget about the whole image from beginning to end.

>>3195406
It's not still, it's an animation.

>>3195782
He hasn't updated his deviantart in a loooooong time, check his tumblr for current work. http://superamiuniverse.tumblr.com/

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>>3201947
I can see where the confusion is coming from, but that pic's not mine, that's literally how they posted the piece in Level-up on fb where I found it.
>https://www.artstation.com/nabetse

Test

>>3203663
whoever drew that needs loomis aswell

>>3193491
That's pretty damn good

>>3203663
I like your noses.

>>3203714
Based anon I was looking for this guy for ages. There's something about this guys style that's just really nice to look at. Gives me a more realistic Baccano vibe and it's great