/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3605648
Anon.... people cant stand like that.

Does this look alright to you guys?

>>3605636
But furry isn't allowed here.

>>3605655
What? Where? I see no fur.

>>3605661
My stuff.

>>3605654
No. Where is the other arm? The placement of the asshole is wrong. I like the puffy pussy tho.

>>3605651
Michael Jackson could.

>>3605648
nice mouth

>>3605664
The other arm was not there in my reference too... i suppose i could add one if it looks weird.
I will look into fixing the ass hole thx

>>3605683
No problem anon. Post results.

>>3605663
Post it on /trash/ and just link. They won't care or notice.

>>3605693
>>>/trash/18300892
>>>/trash/18308187

here.

>>3605693
>/trash/
nice. is it loli okay there?

Sketched this today. Gonna be one of those images that has 10 alts.

>>3605654
>>3605684
Update
I moved the butthole and sketched a right arm.

so

yea

>>3605794
>he signed it

>>3605796
LOOK!
Our first crab of the thread guys =^]

>>3605794
Anon... her torso is kinda... shaped like a square...

>>3605783
Resize next time, please.

>>3605843
dammn soft lines

destroy this pic

Looking for all feedback. This is my first serious lewd paint. For the record - no photo reference was used, nor an outside pallete.

>>3605908
study more back shoulders and arms.
I feel that your arms are too thin especially if its on a body like these.

>>3605815
Look, the first faggot of the thread. :)

>>3605826
>>3605927
Back for more, Stupid Grin Syndrome?

>>3605908
why

>>3605843
Thanks, your blue line is worthless.

>>3605730
Do you even know how to draw a pussy?

>>3605636
Perfect OP pic for the retards who shill their shit work in this thread. 20/10

>>3605843
Awww maaan. i love you thanks for the help.

>>3605924
>my first serious lewd paint.
>no photo ref.
There is ur problem buddy.

>>3606000
Looks fine to me. Hell, his work looks better than a lot of hentai artists, who overrender them as cavernous hellscapes.

>>3606033
Don’t know about you but mine doesn’t look like a folded up balloon

>>3606032
That's equivalent to "I don't like it", but not saying anything useful, like reasons for that beyond just personal taste. It's one thing to see a sexy photo and to want to draw it or use it for reference, but I had a specific idea in my head, and it was pointless to waste time trying to find reference I could use.

Btw, I cite BBC-chan and Erotibot as inspiration.

>>3606195
Either post your art, or stop being so self centered.
Go be an attention whore elsewhere please.

>>3606195
If I'd draw a pussy that looks like mine there would be people saying that's not what it's supposed to look like, so I just draw them like your average porn artist desu

>>3605636
Haha, what the fuck.

>>3606000
They drew it fine. There's nothing wrong with it.

>>3606195
1. It doesn't look like that
2. That's probably because your fat blocks any shape the pussy can have. Go LARP somewhere else.

>>3606206
i mean i guess if you think making a good drawing is pointless then yeah you should never go out of your way to find reference

>>3606223
c-can I see

>>3606405
Sure but fyi its a [male] pussy

wip

>>3606428
>its a [male] pussy

>>3606563
This is great, she could be moving her tits along the shaft

>>3605826
Your art is so fucking ugly, I can't wait until you start listening to criticisms and improve.

>>3605834
>they can draw a box
gmi

>>3606033
>looks fine to me
Probably the first you've seen, virgin?

>>3606206
>cites Brit Boy Cuck as inspiration
It clearly shows, dipshit. The blind leading the retarded.

>>3606239
Found the other virgin.

>>3606634
I'm pretty sure anything is better than listening to ramblings coming from a mean sociopath.
You aren't trying to help anyone here. All you want is to offend people for no good reason.

>>3606661
>being a meanie
Grow a fucking pair, learn how to draw like you're not dropped off from the short bus or cry like every other snowflake on the ground in this thread, pussy.

>>3606722
Enjoy your ban for posting child gore porn, faggot.

>>3606719
As I said. Why would people even listen to whatever you say. You sound like a monkey with tourettes.

If you want to give people critique, then do that. What's the point in sperging out like a retard? You think anyone will take you more seriously, because you talk like a drunk redneck?

>>3606734
it's not gore and it's not porn, it's just disgusting

>>3606206
No it's not. He's saying study from anatomy because your art is garbage.
>it was pointless to waste time trying to find reference I could use
It's never a waste of time to find something that could help you improve.

>>3606722
she looks happy, where he pussy is at?

>>3605843
Nice puss and butt. Blog?

>>3606925
https://supermarmalademum.tumblr.com/

>>3605636
Currently drawing a Pearl pic. Still got a lot to do, so some things are absent.

>>3606962
>copy pasted legs
Yikes.

>>3606966
This. It just makes you look lazy and fat.

>>3606966
>>3606972
>Says the legs are mirrored
>Clearly not "mirrored"
You do know you can achieve symmetry by hand right?

>>3606428
What does that even mean?

>>3606983
Guy who originally drew pic, but not anon above. I still don't understand the copy and paste...

>>3606983
You're right, my mistake. On mobile, so the pic is smaller and upon closer inspection it definitely isn't mirrored.
But that doesn't make it any more attractive. Symmetry is extremely unattractive in this case.

>>3606994
Well, what do you suggest in this case? I'm totally open for ideas. I felt symmetry would be fine in this case since the revealing nature going on.

>>3606995
Maybe lift one leg up and have the hand on the same side resting on her knee. Make it so the heel is resting on the edge of the seat.

>>3607013
Yeah I don't think that'd work out with the size of the chair and all. Maybe you should sketch it out to show your idea.

>>3606619
how nice of you to offer any

I like cocks

>>3606722
is her (left) hand ok?

>>3606734
>child gore porn
new thing to add on my list of stuff I don't want to ever see, thx

>>3607043

>>3605826
I left this place for 10months and come back to you at the exact same place as you were back then, holy fuck

>>3607178
And first thing you do after 10 fucking is to shitpost.
What a fucking asshole.

Please go back in your hole and this time stay there for 10 years.

>>3607134
What's wrong?

>>3605730
god i fucking hate pillow-shading

>>3607241
Probably they are saying that your stuff lacks general appeal. I agree with them.
Also, try to improve your hands and feet game.

>>3607247
I always try to improve.

Even if it might not be generally pleasing.

>>3607239
He isn't wrong though.

>>3607286
He's no less of an asshole either.

>>3607178
Don't reply to the troll. If we stop giving him (you)s, he'll leave.

>>3607370
trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls...

Progress update.

>>3607422
It might just be me but i feel like she has a 40+ year old face.

>>3607539
Nvm its probably just the layer of lines on her face

>>3607266
there are no way saggy tits like those have nips that high up the boob.
It also kind of feels like you're trying to cover your anatomy issues by using stylisation

Does anyone have any tips for drawing fat girls? They're my greatest fetish, but they're such a headache to draw.

>>3607697
Work from reference and note the patterns of where fat gets deposited and how gravity/perspective effects it. Master these things and you’ll be able to draw all the fatties you want

I commissioned the linework for this and tried colouring it myself. I don't really know how to do soft shading in photoshop, and this took quite a while to do just celshading. Can it stand on its own style or should I really try to learn how to soft shade? And if so what's a good resource?

>>3607732
>this guy... again
it looks good. stop coming here every few months asking the same thing over and over again. wtf?

>>3605665
he had shoes that would get caught on pegs to pull that off.

Could someone please tell me why my drawing doesn't look very sexy?
>>>/trash/18354145

>>3607892
Perspective. Things closer to you should look bigger then things farther away.
You appear to have that backwards.
Her face doesn't look very feminine imo. Maybe some simple eye lashes can help?
Her rib cage look massive.

>>3607241
Your stuff's cool as fuck, blog? I wanna see where you go with this.

What a good site to start doing commissions? HF? Tumblr?

Real talk, how many of you drawing porn in this thread are really interested in learning, and how many of you are just here to post your art?

Show of hands.

>>3605756
anatomy is really good

>>3608213
Most of the stuff in here is clearly unfinished. Its obvious which ones are just shilling their garbage and who genuinely post wip for help.

>>3608247
Well, here's hoping the genuine posts who want help, will respond again. Those who want help will, and those who don't will just leave this be.

>>3608213
>>3608263
What's the point of these posts?

>>3608021
Thanks, I mostly do request and commissions.

https://bolt-s.tumblr.com/

Critiques?

Quick! How do I into everything?
>tfw only have a mouse

>>3608810
learn proper lineweight

>>3608827
Read this:
>>1579290
I honestly think it's the best post on the whole /ic/ board right now.

>>3608810
Love the clean non pointy toes on the feet and nice sized bewbs.

I like it.

>>3606195
I used to think the same thing about drawn penises.
Turned out it was me. I just had a weird mishapen penis.
The drawings were fine.

>>3605843
How to achieve these soft lines? I am trying with SketchBook, but can't do it like that.

>>3605924
I'd say there's something weird with the zone of the Popliteal fossa. Nah, forget it, your drawing is nice and I am jealous.

>No loli
Are you guys for real?

>>3608417
What does Fir's package look like when he's in full armor

>>3608932
Like a faggot.

>>3608810
Still looking like shit, Crumpet.

>>3608355
I was kidding faggot, I juat wanted to see if you'd shill your shit here. You didn't disappoint.

>>3608263
Fuck off, no one needs some wannabe autist help here.

I probably should have placed the head closer to the crotch, as right now the all look like they're awkwardly floating forward, otherwise I think it turned out nice.

Does it look ok so far?
>>>trash/18372077

does it look ok so far?
>>>/trash/18372077

I feel that I haven't improved in a while, I need to learn how to get people off better. What am i doing wrong?

>>3609136
whoops
>>>/trash/18372721

>>3609148
God I wish that were me.

Update.

>>3609326
Stop pillow shading.

>>3609326
You either need to take more tips from Kyle or stop trying to be him altogether. This image is grotesque especially the left pic.

>>3609326
No nipple on the face of the earth looks like that. Which would be fine if it was an appealing exaggeration but it’s not. Can’t tell if tiny forehead or perspective failure. Do hair studies, the hair rendered here is ugly and distracting and doesn’t respond to gravity (nor does it ignore it in an aesthetically pleasing way)

>>3609326
Stop drawing

>>3609328
>>3609342
Form (here), shadows, highlights, cast shadows.

Build upon your critiques.

>>3609343
The character in the sheet was depicted with a low forehead. See this reddit page for the example I was going with.

https://www.reddit.com/r/FierceFlow/comments/68ommt/hairline_anxieties/

Specifics on the nipple are appreciated in advance, and offer an example for the hair (namely defying gravity) for when I start doing the corrections.

The goal was to use her long ponytail to guide the viewer's eye across the page. Tips on how to pull this off more effectively would be greatly appreciated, given its importance to the composition.

>>3609361
No.

>>3609071
Never change.

>>3609363
You don’t need to guide people’s eyes across the composition because it’s porn. Unironically. The eye is naturally going to hit the sexual points of interest. The weird ass ponytail is just distracting. As for the nipple, when has a crimson red plastic nipple ever been appealing? Just look at illustrations with appealing nipples and emulate that.

>>3609374
Change the colors of the nipples, check.

The ponytail's length is according to the reference. The form will be reworked and simplified to something more gestural, though I'll need a bit more to go on here.

As for the composition, so far the commissioner has no problem with finding it hot. And yes, porn comic pages still need to guide the eye to and from the sexual points of interest.

I believe the framework for this goal has been accomplished. It just needs fine tuning, which is why I came here for help with my work.

>>3609363
>Build upon your critiques.
Just because you add shadows, highlights and cast shadows, doesn't mean you're not pillow shading. There is no direction from where the light is coming from. You define every form of the body by first shading around the entire object which is a huge no no. Pic attached. You don't consider how each object interacts with each other in the light.

>>3607241
everytime i look at any of your art
I always imagine your drawing talking in Smeagol's voice.
I think you need to work on your lineart and your anatomy. Work on the placement of the nipples and maybe put less detail in certain places.Breast are too high up too.
Some of your drawings have small torso making it look very uncanny.

>>3609385
Much appreciated.

>>3608932
he's got a big crotchplate

>>3605636
thoughts?

>>3608417
The bottoms torso is in a different perspective from the rest of his body.

I’ve noticed your drawings don’t usually vary much in terms of perspective, it doesn’t feel like you focus enough on what would be more appealing/ visually interesting. I don’t think your art is terrible and it bothers me that you don’t push yourself more.

>>3609390
Now let's see if you really apply that critique to your work, Crumpet. Chances are you won't.

>>3609385
So there's nothing wrong with the anatomy on this, huh? It's all just lighting? What about perspective, and maybe after that, anatomy?

>>3609416
you color like you're from deviantArt.

>>3609483
>your art isn't terrible
poor hand structure, poor male musculature, poor feet placement AND structure and poorly drawn exaggeration as far as cocks go, not to mention that same, stupid grin this amateur has been suffering for so long on his work.

everything is wrong in this drawing. but don't expect this lazy amateur to change a thing, because they are set in their ways, much like this moron >>3609326 who's also plagued with the same mistakes, but are too fucking proud to admit it.

not only that, when artists here get real, to the point critiques, they dismiss them for not being thorough, thought provoking, long winded, college art school critiques they feel they deserve.

bitch, please.

not only that, but you get dunning kruger replies like these >>3609380 that only show that the artist doesn't really care about critiques from anyone and would much rather substitute their own reality and find nothing wrong with their work because according to their egos, nothing is wrong.

>it just needs fine tuning
fucker, your whole entire work needs an overhaul. despite that average critique you were given >>3609385 i'll bet your ass a million dollars you won't change a thing about your work ethic.

>it bothers me that you don't push yourself more
maybe if you mentioned what was wrong in their work rather than sugarcoat your replies more of these amateurs would actually get a clue on what mistakes they're making.

but oh no, if you come out and say what's really wrong with their work, you're a troll hellbent on destroying their passion to draw.

it's all just a circlejerk of shitty art, safe space replies and COME AT ME BRO autistic comebacks. no one wants to hear the truth.
no one here really wants to learn.

>>3609500
You should try giving critiques sometime because if you want people to get better at something you don't go around telling them how shit they are, or saying things like "WHAT DA FUCK ARE YOU DOING??? ARE YOU STUPID!?!?!??" nobody learns like that.

What I think you are doing is coming onto /ic/ threads or even starting these critique threads yourself and then use them to justify the way that you want to treat people so you can try to disguise it as "help" by calling it all "critique".

If you are looking to critique then do that, but if you are looking to treat people like a punchbag to take out your frustrations on people then don't even bother saying another thing because it isn't going to help anyone.

>>3609073
Maybe you're right, i'm wasting my time here with a genuine concern for the development of artists who want to pursue their passion for drawing adult work, only to see them reply as they do, convincing me even further that no one here really wants to learn. It's sad to see that "Nothing's wrong with my work" attitude compounded here to a nauseating level.

I made a mistake thinking I could come here to help. I'll never make that mistake again. Good luck to everyone posting in this thread, it's sad to see that your egos still govern you.

>>3609526
I just did.
>poor hand structure, poor male musculature, poor feet placement AND structure and poorly drawn exaggeration as far as cocks go, not to mention that same, stupid grin this amateur has been suffering for so long on his work.
what's the problem, is the critique not warm enough? did I not sugarcoat it like a cookie enough for you? am I raping your intelligence by putting it down too raw and real for you?

>>3609535
I didn't mention a thing about it being warm, sugar coated enough or ask for a biscuit.
It was also not raw or real and you are proving about what I am talking about by replying in the way that you are replying.
People should just ignore your posts and only take in actual critique since there is no critique.

Critique only works by giving constructive criticism, anything else said other than constructive criticism is not valid.

I will not be replying to you any further from this point as I think it will be a waste of time, but the main point has been made so there doesn't need to be any more replies made.

Do research on how to critique and give it, otherwise don't bother saying a single word.

Bye.

>>3609072
I'm glad I didn't disappoint you. Here's another one.

>>3606212
>>3606239
Holy fuck this board hosts some mega faggots lmfao

>>3608355
Hey fyi >>3609072 is not me (>>3608021), I'm the one who asked for your blog out of genuine interest because I really do like your style, it's one of the more inventive and unique styles I've seen posted here and I'm dsappointed to see that someone hopped on the opportunity to crab out.

>>3609529
Or maybe you act like an obnoxious dick so no one wants to listen to you

>>3609535
No one will ever take you seriously if you keep adding gratuitous insults to your "critique". You are basically wasting your time.
Act friendly if you genuinely want to give critique.
But I'm guessing that was never your intention. Correct?

>>3609540
get fucking rekt >>3609535
another snowflake bites the dust

>>3609602
they're not wrong, tho
none of you autistic /beg/ tier artists know how to take a critique

>>3609627
>trying to rationalize with anons on /ic/
what the fuck is wrong with you lol

>Global porn revenues have dropped 50% since 2007 due to the amount of free porn now available online. It’s estimated that 80-90% of users now only access free porn online. Like the music industry, porn is struggling to find ways to deal with privacy.

>>3609680
*privacy
Freudian slip for piracy

>>3609483
you make a good point, i should prolly try to vary the perspectives i use

>>3609678
I know he won't respond. And that's proof that I'm right and that he knows I'm right.

>>3608889
go to infinitechan if you want critique on loli, this board is just tumblr now

>>3609680
>reads pic title
Oh she's fat now. I always thought she died years ago.

>>3609675
No one's going to take a "critique" seriously if they're just being bitchy, regardless of skill

>>3610004
Nice

>>3607043
>>3607241
>>3607266
I love this shit. It obviously has its issues, but this is the most interesting stuff I've seen in a while.

>>3609813
She's pregnant in that pic.

>>3609555
It sure as hell isn't arousing, but damn if it isn't fun to look at

>>3609526
Welcome to /ic/ faggot, this is the way things work here. If you don't like it (no one does) you can leave or get used to it and stay because, despite being full of assholes, you are also an asshole and want to stew in the hot bullshit that makes up this board.

>>3610125
that's not how it has to be. I am with that anon. we are a lose community of artists who come here to share art and knowledge, so we are shaping this climate.
don't just give in on the situation; we could seriously elevate the quality of this board, if we wouldn't spasm out on each other like that.

Progress update.

>>3610125
Stop projecting. Just because you are an asshole, it doesn't mean everyone here is like that.

>>3609540
LOL do you just not understand what "Constructive Criticism" is?

Here's a definition for you
"Constructive criticism is the process of offering valid and well-reasoned opinions about the work of others, usually involving both positive and negative comments"

Did that clear it up? Here's another 2
"1. helping to improve; promoting further development or advancement (opposed to destructive):

2. of, relating to, or of the nature of construction; structural."

Constructive as in they lay out what's wrong and how to fix it, and actually can back up their claims that something is objectively bad. Constructive criticism isn't meant to be "constructive" to your ego or confidence. HAHAHAHAHAHA

Fucking nooblet. I can see that you're triggered. How about you stop making posts on 4chan all together and go back to your hugbox on tumblr? Im sure they'll appreciate your opinions there. Have fun not improving though! :^)

>>3609769
And the Participation Award goes to this fuckhead, who wants /ic/ to act like deviantArt's hugbox replies

>>3609925
so you're admitting that you're all /beg/ tier autists?

>>3610156
god damn it, I KNEW IT! you get schooled on where your lighting should appear on your work and you STILL manage to fuck it UP!

You ARE a fucking idiot, Crumpet! lmao

>>3610184
god bless you anon. you're doing god's work

>>3610156
and the pussy's still wrong, virgin

>>3610184
god bless you anon. you're an edgy teen

>>3610238
found the tumblr snowflake

>>3610206
Weak.

>>3610206
Wrong.But do follow up on that sometime and see where that goes.

>>3610264
Hi. I'm that anon who wasted time showing you that you were pillow shading. I'm sorry that I did waste time because it is now obvious that you don't take critique seriously. You should realize that if many people say something is wrong, then maybe you should take another look at it and maybe go back to your references to see if you misunderstood any forms. I realize now you are only here to show off how "great" you are.
Hopefully nobody else bothers helping you.

>>3610156

>>3610282
pillowshading

>>3610238
Is that what y'all say to each other on tumblr when you're mad?

It's okay anon there are no social rules here. Let it out, give in to your anger. Faggot. :^)

Or are you too brainwashed to do it? You'll always stick out like a sore thumb here acting like that.

>>3610156
>What are forms?
>What are shadows?
>What is perspective?
>Where the fuck is a vagina???
>What is anatomy?!
>What is turd polishing?
>Meh just throw some rim lighting on everything that'll distract them!!!!

>>3610282
Not to mention that broken-ass hand that's not even technically spreading the vagina... What the fuck is that elbow too lol

Oh this is such a clusterfuck

Don't waste your time critiquing this guy he's not gonna listen cause he would rather be stubborn than take legit critique and improve.

Some people gotta learn the hard way I guess

>>3610292
Better yet, where's the left arm? Is it hidden behind the back as support?
The palm size, knuckles and the thumb looks out of place too where they properly connect.

>>3610295
LOL I some how missed that but you're right, it's just gone! She's an amputee!!

This one is a little tricky since I haven't done this angle before. Any tips or comments of if something is off is appreciated. I personally don't see anything right now.

>>3610302
It looks like her whole upperbody is sinking into the bed, then pops right back up again with the head floating.

>>3610302
The perspective on the girl and the bed are totally different... It's weird. Feels like you're looking at a funhouse mirror or something trippy as balls

>>3610306
Oh fuck. Lol. I never saw it like that. Thanks!

>>3610282
Thank you for illustrating the first two points in color. Will there be a follow through on the others at some point?

>>3610277
See >>3609390 Hadn't had much time to browse due to an hour and a half long video that I needed to transcribe today. I apologize.

My goal is to finish the Urbosa and final Olga piece over the weekend. The SS pic and a futa lineworked piece should follow by Wednesday, and the Frederica piece should be completely rendered by the following weekend.

Your critique has been extremely helpful in picking out the faults in the piece. It was wracking my head for a while, and you helped the pieces finally click.

It puzzles me, though. why you sprung this at the fun I'm having with crabs, who contribute nothing but their own vented steam.

>>3610289
Piggybacking

>>3610292
Specifics?

>>3610295
Yes.

Specifics for the issues raised in second sentence?

>>3610310
Note the bedsheet pulls and lines are contributing to the misshapen look, and that the bedframe is out of angle. If you redo the bed by using the character as the measure, you'll find the right perspective.
Also, I noticed that the feel given by the sinking into the bed is that the shoulders and arms are suspended. With those jugs in the way, I can't make a correct view if its intended like that or not, as I can't see the back in the air.

>>3610295

Ooh, I spring forth magical pixels from the deep beyond!

Thanks for the tip, though. The Olga piece will have to come first right now, though.

>>3610300
Keep it up.

I think 3D is hot

>>3610322
I cannot work from the ground up on the image, but remove the following areas that is clearly gone.

>>3610365
> inb4 shitty redraw
its what you get for betting on traditional and only got paint to explain shit.

>>3609472

Love this, blog?

>>3610365
fuck this asshole. no one give him any more critiques ignore him until he goes away

>>3610184
>Constructive as in they lay out what's wrong and how to fix it, and actually can back up their claims that something is objectively bad.
Yeah, and here's the problem. And if you can't see it, then you have issues.

>they lay out what's wrong
cool, they did that.

>how to fix it
not a sign of this.

>and actually can back up their claims that something is objectively bad
no sign of this either.

not the same anon btw, before you start with your usual assumptions.

>>3610199
As I said. You know that I'm right, and you didn't respond cause you know that I'm right.
Keep being an obnoxious asshole that nobody will ever listen to.
Grats.

>>3610437
>>3610435
Stop replying to him, it only further shits up the thread

>>3605648
Blog blog blog blog blog blog blog

>>3610452
One of them is replying to me and one is another anon bro lol

>>3610437
You're not right. You're just a punk kid who grew up with the "Put your Drawing on the Fridge because you're Special" generation. You want everything to be nice and friendly, like some sick Orwellian movie where none of these artists can do no wrong, where their efforts should be applauded and commended for, social justice brought front and center for everyone to enjoy, to cherish and to uphold to the highest of standards.

You want proof of your autistic generation? >>3610264 Here you have it, in its god awful truth and the reply so coveted here >>3610317
where you have someone who took the time to point out this mistakes here>>3609385 , here >>3610277 as well as several others who pinpointed his mistakes, some of which are inbetween YOUR responses >>3609627
>>3609769 >>3610437 but just like that artist, you SELECTIVELY chose NOT to read through the replies, then chose your own to FEED your OWN ego and DISMISSED the critiques that held value for the sake of that artist to learn from, and grow.

But did he? No. >>3610365 it's even in the file name, to mock those who gave a fuck to help him out, only to have their words of advice turned a blind eye to.

So to answer your first question, yes I add "gratuitous" insults to my critiques, because frankly, who wants something sugarcoated? Why should I act friendly for? What would be the end result? To make this world a happier place for us to live in? As if my acting friendly is going to change anything.

It was never my intention to give out Participation Awards for artists who claim to know what they're doing, when they clearly don't.

You're wrong. And it's about time someone told you were because clearly, your parents did not. Neither do your friends, or your art teacher, or those "friendships" you make at conventions. So, not only have I responded to you, I put you in your fucking place, kid. Go SJW somewhere else.

>>3610519
Holy shit. Imagine being this fucking miserable. Imagine having shitty parents who never once hugged you or cared about you or encouraged you. Your art's probably turd-ass awful, too. The thing none of you "I think I'm the Chef Ramsay of art" types realize is that constructive critique consists of both positive and negative feedback about a piece. Until you learn that, fuck yourself you little shit. You're nothing.

>>3610519
>So, not only have I responded to you, I put you in your fucking place, kid.
cringe

>>3610437
But you're not going to, oh no. SELECTIVELY read through everything I've written and pick out the boogeyman parts, those parts that make me seem vile, even downright demonic. God forbid you take a step back from your Artist Alley table and look down at the bullshit your have on your own table, before you light the torch and bring out the pitchfork for friendliness as if you walked straight out of Seven Universe to teach the ugliness of the world a thing or two.

Oh please, don't hurt me with your sunshine and rainbows because I speak the truth about the horrible atrocities I've spoken out about today. Please don't tell Princess Bubblegum about my misdeeds, lest I fuck that bitch up the ass and make her pop cum bubbles for me.

So go ahead, refute the evidence I just presented and tell me I'm wrong. Tell me that my "meanie ways" are wrong.

While you do that, I'll keep telling these idiots what mistakes they're making IN PLAIN words like I did here >>3609535 while your ass continues to trek the conversation to some other avenue like you're the one trying to derail these threads like some obnoxious little girl hoping to get attention from daddy.

What do you autists say like the crabs you really are? oh yeah....

Post your work. :)

Let's see the natural gift that you plundered from the land of Ooo, Tumblrina. I'm here to critique, not post my work. If you post your work here, you're fair game in getting slaughtered for the crap you ignorantly think is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

And don't feel bad, getting your ass handed to you on a platter should come natural to you kids, seeing as you you're right and nothing you do if ever wrong.

Grats. Get rekt.

>>3610539
>This level of projection
Astounding

>>3608417
Please stop using hard lines to denote contours. Use better line weight and shadows. This has been mentioned numerous times by me and others, please learn from this.

>>3610519
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>>3610526
That's right, make yourself feel good, warm and fuzzy by resorting to the "I bet he doesn't draw" defense.

That'll teach anon. Fuck his shit, I'm right and they're wrong. Let me praise a piece and make little to no contribution about the FUCKING mistakes they're making, but it's okay artist, it's okay, I still like your work and I think you have potential, don't give up! Yay!

Eat a dick, kid.

>>3610542
>this level of ignorance
Remarkable

>>3610526
that's what I thought kid, present you with your own autists committing the very same crimes you're trying to defend and get stuck looking like a fucking idiot.

Next time, choose your Pokemans when you battle correctly so I can Psy-Duck your ass back to Tumblr.

>>3610550
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>>3610554
Nice samefag moron

>>3610558
No shit, you dumbfuck. We are allowed to answer back to several replies, aren't we? Here's your retard helmet, remember the doors swing OUTWARD when you get on the short bus, faggot.

>>3610562
>respondingto the same post twice in separate posts
>being this angry in general online
Go take your schizo meds

>>3610519
>You're not right. You're just a punk kid who grew up with the "Put your Drawing on the Fridge because you're Special" generation. You want everything to be nice and friendly, like some sick Orwellian movie where none of these artists can do no wrong, where their efforts should be applauded and commended for, social justice brought front and center for everyone to enjoy, to cherish and to uphold to the highest of standards.
You are the one that is fucked in the head for thinking like this and assuming stuff constantly.
I'm not saying you have to be friendly and ugu uwu and all the tumblr bullshit.
I'm saying you should stop acting like a sperg if you want people to consider your critique. Act like a normal adult person and people will actually listen to you.
I am trying to fucking give you an advice here.
But if all you are trying to do is to discourage and belittle people, then don't expect them to listen to you at all.

And inb4 insults that have nothing to do with what I just said.
Congratulations. Again.

>>3610539
I repeat what I said here
>>3610689
I gave you an advice. Stop acting like a sperg if you are serious about trying to help people and you actually want them to listen to you.

And if that's not your intention in the first place, then why do you even post? Solely to vent?

Oh look, Salty-Kun shitting up yet another porn thread, and all you morons feeding this trolling autistic faggot again and again. He's not an artist, he's just here to start shit....just fucking ignore him!

Trash sketch

>>3610689
I mean, you cant just discredit critique because you didn't like it or some shit said with it, you either want it or you don't and seeing as you're on the critique board you obviously want it.
If you choose to fuck yourself by ignoring something that can genuinely help you regardless of the context it's given to you in, then you're retarded.
In the case you do disregard the critique, then don't interact with that person, you're just hurting yourself at that point and further cements the fact that you are retarded to everyone.

>>3610786
It's a 2 ways thing. That's my point.
The same can be said for this person that acts like a sperg. It's just as easy as that, yeah.
As with any other thing the world isn't just black and white. There aren't just artists that can't accept good critique, there are also """critics""" that act like complete idiots.
Both are wrong.
Why the hell can't -YOU- accept that?

>>3610767
Word.
I tried to reason with him for the last time.

>>3610803
While I get you, this is a place to get artwork critique, not critique critique.
The point I made prior while directed at you there, would actually benefit the board as a whole, If people could actually direct all this energy and focus they do fighting onto their artwork they would improve dramatically.
>>3610805
Why bother in the first place.


Just absorb the good shit, ignore the bullshit and put all this extra energy into creating something.

Can you really blame the dude for being salty considering people have been here day in day out for days/months/years only to see no or very little improvement despite people giving varying degrees of advice, only for them to waste time arguing with the person giving the critique instead, time which could have been used to either learn something or work on something and improve.
If people actually want to go somewhere with their art in the future they are going to have to deal with far worse "critiques" and people, if they can't even handle a guy like this then I don't really know what to say.

>>3610786
This

People can say whatever they want, however they want. You can't control what other people do.

Just learn to take away whatever you find useful in the critique, there's always at least something you can learn from it. Even if it's rude lol. It's your job as an artist to just deal with it, take or leave the advice and then leave instead of bitching people out for being rude.

>>3610519
> >3610365 it's even in the file name, to mock those who gave a fuck to help him out, only to have their words of advice turned a blind eye to

The tripfag OA of this piece didn't do this. It was thrown into a paint doc and drawn over to illustrate what he had to change, so before you put it in the pile of evidence, try fucking reading.

I get the sentiment where you're coming from, but I lead from example to show his errors. You get nowhere by pissing and whining, assuming this and that.

>>3610328

Update

>>3610856
why cant dicks look like that in real life

>>3610004
I really like this. Blog?

>>3611245
Those thumbs are distractingly rubbery

>>3611166
Anon that pointed out that she sunk into the bed.

Muuuuch better. You did well, but the pillow looks a bit out of place, as well as the night stand colluding with the wall. Put the wall further back and correct the lines to match the bedframe.

>>3610778
Would you do commissions? I like your style.

>>3611265
Don't bother giving this guy critique. Ctrl+f his name and you'll see he doesn't listen to critique, despite acknowledging it.

>>3611327
i'd be willing to give it a try

>>3611366
she looks confused, and the body looks traced. Pretty boring looking and it is clear you are avoiding drawing hands.

>>3611366
Draw the rest of the dude.
You need to fix the gesture, and the angle of the pelvis and the cunt.
Make her eyes focus at the action or something that doesn't give off a thousand yard stare.
And why hiding the hands?

>>3610004
pretty much perfect. If you keep at it you will make a ton of money

>>3611290
Ah, didn't see this! Yeah, I agree with the changes.

>>3611384
It's not traced.

>>3611386
Here is the whole drawing.

But I need to fix the body of the guy and the other girl.
I'm going to redo them.

>>3611428
Here is the original drawing.

That foot was horrible.

Reminder not to give (you)s to the poster/troll above

>>3611466
thank you, this post sustains me for another year

>>3609600
It's alright, even if it wasnt 4chan, thick skin is needed to grow.

>>3610051
I find some of it arousing, but I agree on some of them.

First round of revisions.

wew

>>3611626
wewlad
blog/fa?

>>3611636
blog: https://lennyforme.tumblr.com/
i dont post much nsfw tho

>>3611640
jfc man give us a warning next time

>>3611387
Lmao.
I'm afraid having good art isn't enough for that.

some doodles from tonight as well

>>3611702

Reminder not to reply to the troll/poster above.

>>3611668
Holy moley. Do you have a blog?

>>3611726
yeah i posted it here >>3611637
like i said tho, not a lot of NSFW up. i might make a porn blog at some point since ive been drawing more of it lately

>>3605826
You really improved, but you should stop coming here altogether, ic is starting to become the new fit where people keep demotivating each others over and over. This place is disgusting

>>3605998
People like you made me quit drawing. It was the only hobby that brought me joy in my shitty life, and fuckers like you completely ruined it for me.

>>3611923
Full offense but if you let the word of some autistic morons online demotivate you so much that you entirely quit drawing altogether... that says a lot about you as a person, man. Especially if it “brought you joy” as well.
People who truly love drawing and enjoy it regardless of their skill level don’t the words of others derail them.

>>3611428
cant really critique other than your picture has the kind of jagged lines i would see on a hd picture zoomed out. and i cant zoom in to fix it.

and your picture is pretty hot according to my dick, and hes a critic i trust.

>>3611617
Alright alright, this is going places.
Now adjust the light sources so that they bounce off the skin according to its position.
The light on the pillow edges shouldn't be there, though. The light stops abruptly in the hall, and it looks as if you drew them straight from the ground to the pillow.
A point that I left out from last time I criticized the pic was that it seemed you were suppose to have a light source from underneath Urbosa. Since the skin is pillowshaded, it also gives the impression the light is cast directly at the center of each joint, body part, and muscles.

>>3611428
What type of porgram are you using?
The edges of the frame is not only crusty, but the lines are visibly pixel lines.
Again. The eyes need to be at a fixed position, or else they all look confused or retarded. It doesn't help with their mouths and expression giving the impression of confusion.
As you mentioned, you gotta go back and fix the bodies, but on all of them. Ania sits almost upright, and doesn't rest on Shinji's chest.

>>3611980
I am using the mouse to draw.
My tablet died ...

When I get a new one, I'll redo the drawings.

I'm doing what I can with what I have at the moment ...

>>3611704
A thing I always have to think about every time I see your art is, what do these characters wear in day-to-day life? With huge genitalia like theirs it must be impossible to wear regular pants.

Update.

>>3612059
the one gettin skewered is a mage, it's a simple spell to make pants that are bigger on the inside
>>3611919
thanks man, and yeah, i've noticed a dropoff of helpful people

Blocked in the shadows (240 minute mark)

>>3612249
How about instead of guessing where shadow go, you read how to render by scott robertson

>>3611704
god i wish that were me

>>3612249
Where is the light coming from? The legs, arms and tits all have different light sources compared to their counterparts. And her pussy is way too low.

>>3611719
then stop reminding us, moron

>>3611923
good, one less idiot drawing so that someone else can come along and take your place. god knows we need less of your kind, and more of those who really want to draw.

>>3612249
love how that neck shoulder just merge nicely and how your football heads never cease to amaze me Crumpet

>>3612249
one tit bigger than the other, muscle definition where there should't be any, ugly six packs on your female form, and your lack of being able to draw a decent bed is still atrocious.

just quit. there is no saving your art now.

Can I get some help with this one, I just can't get the raised shoulder right.

>>3612459
The torso seems to be pressing the bed, flatting out the shoulderblades. From there, the blades comes of uneven when moving up to the deltoid, then the clavicle and the juglars looks crushed on the right side.
Other out of place notes to take is the right leg, and her ass cheek.

>>3612459
The problem you're having here is simple. Stop drawing those stupid guidelines over your reference work and focus on the form, rather than every individual section that forms the figure.

That ass should just look like an ass, rather than a meat market cut-out display. Look at how many sections you have on the shoulder alone. Simplify that process. That's why your upper arm looks so small, which then translates to the forearm and eventually, you'll want to fix that perspective by drawing the hand bigger.

That's the wrong way of learning how to draw the body. You're not an engineer trying to make a bulding, you're a porn artist trying to draw naked people.

The angle of the plane is wrong on the left hand, especially if you're trying to make the hand look likes it's gripping the sheet. Go grab a sheet with your hand and see how that feels. Feels pretty fucking awkward, doesn't it? Now grab on to the sheet pretending to get fucked from behind, which is what I imagine you're trying to show off in this picture. Your hand comes to a...closed fist with sheets naturally, doesn't it?

And that lower back shouldn't look like a Dead Space health armor plate. Because you're using that amateur bodyframe skeleton mistake, that very same mistake is driven up past the lower back to the upper shoulders and...to where your having that problem. Take a good look at the reference picture you're using and look at the body in terms of form, rather than the individual functions of the muscles. Makes sense doesn't it, to rather see the whole body as a form rather than its individual parts?

That also goes for the neck, unless you're trying to gore that up and just draw the body being decapitated, to which I would say go for it, but if you can't draw a convincing body slump over after having their head severed cleanly off like that, guro fans are going to eat you alive for showcasing the body plumped up so pornishly after having their head cut off.

Problem solved. Boom.

Update (300 min mark)

>>3612557
the depression is gonna hit you hard when you become self aware of your flaws and that maybe you shouldnt have blown of everyone who gave you advice

>>3612614
he has no idea how lighting and shadows work. he's under the impression that muscles protrude out past the skin and cast their own individual shadows. five hours later, five hours wasted.

>>3612557
stop shilling your untitled game project work here

420 min mark.

>>3612824
it shouldn't take you 7 hours to do something this simple man especially when it still has errors (rubber thumbs, random ass penis lines, you know that thing that protrudes alone the length of the shaft is on the underside right, plastic nipples)

>>3612824
>7 hours
>looks like this

>>3612831
>>3612842
It took two hours from the end of the sketch to the finished linework, half for the flats and closing off any artifacts left, leaving the remaining four and a half for the render, at this point in the piece.

>>3612871
4 hours for that amount of render? Holy fucking kek.

>>3612871
this level of rendering shouldn't take you more than 2 hours, if that, not trolling.
youre basically doing a poor mans version of kyle's rendering and do you think it takes him 5 hours to do it? not even close, obviously hes more experienced, but even adjusting for that youre working way too slowly
doesn't help that youre starting with a flawed base which you refuse to fix

>>3612876
>>3612881
Way to move those goalposts.

Form of the hands will be defined by the values. What is a vein in the penis. Given the issues you listed are being knocked off one by one, looks like I am on track.

Keep up the good form.

>>3612927
If you did a few 10 hour studies and then redid the pieces quickly with block ins after, this shouldn't take you more than half an hour after the flats. If even half an hour. You're basically still in block in stage with some blending to make it look sophisticated, but you haven't really rendered anything.

The reason it takes so long is because you don't know what you're doing. It takes you several hours to make a value statement that can be done in a few minutes because you just blend and blend without really understanding what it is you're trying to achieve. Some long studies, then immediately after a quick one, would help I bet. I know, I was there myself. It gets tremendously easier after just a few.

Or you can keep being defensive and not do the things that will actually improve you.

>>3612927
no goalposts were moved you defensive faggot
its less pathetic because you didn't spend 7 hours desperately trying to noodle in the values but 5 hours isn't somehow better. ive never seen a straight vein going up the shaft of a penis but okay dude
>form of the hands will be defined by the values
wow and youre still not done the rendering eh? so will it be 7 hours anyway? you cannot fix the shitty form conveyed in your lineart by trying to noodle it away with rendering. the thumbs are too small and too rubbery. look at your own hands in the position of the ones in your piece. do they look like that? if they do, well I guess that deformity explains why your art continues to suck

>>3612944
I will give you benefit if doubt. Do not misconstrue the following paragraphs as against you:

It has become increasingly pathetic watching tossed up standards passed around ad verbatim, with neither the authority of the posters demonstrated, nor from the words of those who work professionally themselves. Even as the issues they claim get ironed out or refuse to prove exist. Or they harp on endlessly over petty issues, such as what occured to BBC, even as many of the other anons gave constructive feedback.

Either way, this throng of idiots bark on scared to ever demonstrate their declared expertise to form, nor do they actually help anyone. The few very well in-depth critiques (two of which I gladly recieved and put to use) stand as mountains over a waterfall of verbal diahrrea. Hentai Foundry has been extraordinarily helpful, as some if the senior artists on the Discord channels with their critiques.

Since you stand from experience, demonstrate your work; offer a study. Should the example hit the marks, I will dedicate a ten hour block Sunday, Tuesday, and Thursday towards value studies. Be an example this board desperately needs, and wield the banner that instills fear into the hearts of crabs everywhere.

>>3612951
Read above. And yes, you moved the goalposts spectuarly from complaining about seven hours, then complaining that four hours is somehow a greater affront.

Yes, men have veins of that sort. And your only definite complaint you have issued is the thumbs, which measure two inches in length for men on average (based upon the work of British anthropoligists). Measure from the crotch of the thumb, you get 2 and 3/4 inches.

With the list of complaints dropping with every subsequent version, and given this is the only one I see repeated out of you after the subsequent versions, elucidate, put up these issues you speak of, or keep barking.

>>3610778
blog?

>>3613003
Thought you needed these

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I am trying to help you but I do wonder if even this stuff I've posted is a little out of your reach. Will you even take any of this into consideration, or will you continue to polish turds for the rest of your life?

Maybe you should at least save them in a folder for when you get older and mature some more, when you think back on this as another one of those embarrassing moments where you weren't nearly as knowledgeable as you thought you were. When you lament wasting your time and desperately want the help, when your skills have truly plateaued for a long time. You try asking for help, but have driven too many people away to really get it anymore.

How sad.

I sincerely hope this doesn't happen to you. :^)

I guess it's time to leave you alone and watch you flounder or git gud. Which will it be, friend?

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Goodbye, salt man.

0>>3613210
You were asked to show up, instead you spammed the thread with tutorials, half which I already possess, in lieu of answering anything I raised.

The accusations of plateauing are rich; compare my current work to my stuff over a year ago.

Or you can back your words with evidence of your work. If it blows my mind, you'll have a new follow in your social media of choice. If not, do not waste the board's time with disingenuous nonsense.

>>3613211
You won't improve, you'll just keep tracing your commissions. :)

>>3613211
Here's his dA account. Hi, Jameson.
>https://www.deviantart.com/sperginpenguin/art/Jameson-The-Revanchist-645373309

>>3613211
And apparently, you're not all there in the head. Here's one of your replies from March of this year, which explains a lot about you, Jameson.

<*GASP* I am offended! I am not autistic No, I'm primo fucking autismo up in this bitch. I combine the awkwardness of a penguin and a ham sandwich with cottage cheese, and how fast you fuckers are chasing stampeding drawfag and commissioner alike out, towards turding up greener pastures, is mingboggling. Man the fuck up, and maybe some faggot will draw your surge of fetishes, to the minute detail, after influxes of sane ones get lapped up like Nutella melted into toritllas.

>>3613363
Didn't the GASP! give you the first clue? Halfway joking around, halfway tired of the fact that the boards keep bleeding good artists once they reach a sustainable fanbase.

The fact you had to track down my dA and a free piece is a joke. How is this relevant to how my work has grown? Is this all you have anymore?

>>3613211
Okay Jameson, why don't we compare your recent stuff to a year ago. This was posted back in October of 2017.

What's changed? You still suffer from the same anatomical flaws, your perspective work still suffers, albeit your color shading was better back then (see, I can use big words too to make me look like a genius too), and your background work is...abysmal. You see Jameson, you haven't changed.

The proof is in the pudding, or to quote the botched green text (which unlike your art, I can fix with adding the greater than sign to it) It's the Nutella melted into tortillas. You try to come off as some Greater Than Thou artist when in fact, with your own drawings, you're an absolute hack. You trace your commissions almost line for line >>3613351 and then you come off like some douchebag when people offer you sound advice on your work.

So, it only took you LESS than a year to plateau. From October of last year to this year 2018, you've managed to accomplish absolutely nothing but get worse in your work. I don't know Jameson, which is worse?

Coming off as this asshole who knows better, or getting exposed thanks to the power of the internet, provided you keep namefagging it up for a quick search to reveal just how pathetic you really are.

>>3613370
It's okay Jameson, crowd control is now in effect. You haven't changed in a year, and hey, that's okay. For the next ten, I imagine you'll pretty much stay the same, like this gem I found here, your Cerise. Now we're getting personal, because in your own character work, you still fail. And this was posted TWO months ago, Jameson. What is the deal with you pretending to be good, when in a year's time, nothing's changed?

What's the matter, Jameson? Is this all you have? Is this your flawed legacy you leave for others to inspire to? What makes you think ANYONE is going to believe you in what you say, after being exposed like this?

No one's going to take you seriously anymore. This finally disproves ANYTHING you've said up to this point as nothing more than a Dunning Kruger vomit.

>>3613370
I don't see you replying back as quickly anymore after posting your work from October of last year, Jameson. What gives? Please explain how over a year's time, you keep committing the same mistakes in your work?

We're rolling up on December of this year real soon, so why hasn't anything changed? This gem was posted on December 22, 2017. How are you still making mistakes?

>>3613363
Then entertain with this, and the Urbosa piece in the works.

Your commentary on my colorwork is gold. Which specific anatomical flaws and perspective errors that you speak of from such authority? Because tossing tutorials around is not equivalent to practice, nor are your words a substitute for proof. The fact you had to dredge my old stuff out speaks volumes about your insecurities, and far less of my self-improvement.

>>3613400
Oh wow, a quick piece done between commission loads and a book cover! What a fantastic example to bring to forefront.

>>3613405
More old work!? Wow, I am do touched you're digging this far back!

>>3613400
>I finally disproved you!

You are utterly obsessed? What are desperate to disprove? How much I have grown as an artist? That someone can make these strides in a year? By chance, have we met over Discord?

>>3613408
>The accusations of plateauing are rich; compare my current work to my stuff over a year ago.
It's okay Jameson, it's okay to cry. It's okay to freak out now that I know your real name, don't I Crumpet? :)

>>3613410
And now that I've compared your work from a year ago, you're still freaking out, Jameson. had you kept your mouth shut, I would have left well enough alone, but after seeing your Dunning Kruger answers here >>3613003 and here >>3613211 well, let's face it Jameson, I had to put an end to your condescending behavior.

You yourself said:
>The accusations of plateauing are rich; compare my current work to my stuff over a year ago.

So I did. Why are you getting upset? And it's nice to see that you still haven't said anything, or even mentioned this >>3613351

What's up, Jameson? Why are you not answering this simple question? Why haven't you improved in a year's time?

>>3613411
Swing and a miss, sport.

>>3613416
Sunday, May 20, 2018. FOUR months ago.
>https://desuarchive.org/aco/search/username/Hardstones%2BMcFlintcock/page/5/
Swing and a miss, Jameson. :)

>>3613416
Go dig up more of your shit so that I can keep disproving you, Jameson.

>>3613416
You've actually gotten WORSE. >>3612824 What gives, Jameson? Answer that, please.

>>3613418
Thanks for...proving my point on time constraints? And not having time for personal stuff?

>3613415
I take responsibility for the piece.

One thing I point out again, sunshine: it was not commissioned as your accused me of: it was done for free, on my own time, during a large commission load. I had just been hired to be a part of the game project, the book cover, and several other pieces at the same time. From the stream of requests and pieces I have been tasked of, two of which were cancelled and refunded in full. A policy I uphold.

And yes, I have improved substantially, and will continue to make strides. Around New Years, I will be putting commissions on hold for studies and a personal project.

In the meantime, I will push however far I can go improving my work. You can start, by posting your work.

The first ten hour block will be scheduled for tomorrow instead. Do so, and I will inform my commissioners of my plans.

>>3613426
>posts Roxie
>https://desuarchive.org/aco/search/username/Hardstones%2BMcFlintcock/page/6/
>back in April
>churns out this shit in September >>3612824
Keep digging yourself into a hole.

So you do admit you trace your commissions? You're doing a FANTASTIC job of proving my point.

>>3613426
And even THEN you drew the dick incorrectly. It's backwards!

>>3613426
Why is the light source coming up from underneath the bed sheet? Is she laying down on a piece of plexiglass covered in a table cloth? Holy shit man, you're still having problems with lighting ever since April?

>>3613435
That the one you posted was, yes. The Olga one in progress was constructed free hand based upon a picture of theirs from a previous game. Let me see if I can get the sketch for you.

Once again, men have veins of a sort. Pic related.

>>3613441
I'll give you two minutes to figure this out.

Meanwhile, I found the sketch. Going at it and just roughing lines. Having a lot of fun drawing what's in my alley.

Let me know if you want the second stage of the sketch phase.

>>3613450
So how do you defend charging people 35 dollars for traced line work? And 140 dollars for poorly shaded, rendered color work?

Veins don't work the same as muscles, Jameson. You do know that, right?

>>3613456
Found out in one. You have no idea how light sources work.

>>3613465
Excuse me, traced line work is redundant. I meant to say, tracing? >>3613351

>>3611617
please learn how to draw pussy

>>3613468
What is a smartphone?

>>3613465
Because they are not, save for the Dizzy piece. I have posted that Hilda piece throughout the Discord channels, down to the perspective lines and corrections, thanks to the communities. If you want to free-ball your accusations, be my guess.

Five minute sketch for the Frederica piece, before corrections.

>>3613473
I'll put that down for studies, but so far only you guys have raised the issue (only critique was to add more specular highlights), and I'll add that you prefer me to go a more stylized direction. Specifics?

>>3613469
Already addressed the Dizzy piece. You also accused the Olga piece of being traced. Back that claim.

>>3613456
It's been nice exposing you for the fraud that you really are, Jameson. I'll be sure to post this work here again on the next thread >>3613351 so that it reminds you of the thorough ass kicking you got today. If you ever speak with arrogant tones in your replies here ever again, I'll refer everyone to this archive:

>https://desuarchive.org/aco/search/username/Hardstones+McFlintcock/

So that they can see for themselves, the worthlessness of your ability to draw. It was only a matter of time before I found this information about you.

And I will quote this very same line of you every time you feel the need to condescend any more replies.

>The accusations of plateauing are rich; compare my current work to my stuff over a year ago.

>>3613482
I'm surprised no one has brought it up before, because pussy does not look like that

>>3613450
The urethra looks like its laid above the corpora cavernosa, when it should be underneath. Thats whats upside-down. The picture you cite are the dorsal arteries. The only slight bump on the shaft should be the superficial dorsal vein.
Don't use this pic to map out how cockflow works.

>>3613484
Swing and a miss.

Also, those archives also include my responses and my progress updates. If you're intent to negate my ability to draw or reach an audience, you've fucked up well in advance.

It's like you're patting yourself on the back despite your premise unfurling right before your eyes.

>>3613482
Stop putting your eggs into style, and do more studies than comissions.
You've actively blocked out hinting from several people for one or two anons that harangues your past work and developmen, and you keep asking for spesific directions, when you claim you've got feedback from better qualified people on Discord and own the guides posted earlier to consult.

Its not to say you should leave these threads or boards, but your passive declines of refute and shallowness give the impression of a Dunning-Kreuger, when you want to be serious. Stop defending yourself. You're eating the bait.

>>3613488
Erotibot's stylization.

As for your picture, they come in a myriad of shapes and sizes they come in.

>>3613490
Pic related. Want more? Because the dorsal arteries across the penis also come in different shapes and sizes. You have likely have seen it heavily stylized in the porn you have come across.

>>3613502
Of course I've seen the d. artieries on a shaft. Since you have to see what I mean what the problem here is, I will demonstrate.
The circled area is the issue. Not the veins.
The image you posted with the mapped outline of the d.arteries was overly rendered and stylized, and I wanted you to refrain from using it.

>>3613506
>I want you to refrain from using it

So, this not so much a critique as a suggestion to one's sensibilities. Why?

Across the penis, the veins are the highest point affected by light and moisture.

>>3613498
I have already incorporated the suggestions brought up on the board, as provided by the indepth critiques. I have also made several other important fixes, according the feedback given.

My ability to draw has proven in the archives he passes around. Every-time I have asked for specifics, most of the anons delve further than shallow retorts and crabby behavior.

Build upon the hints with tangible critiques. Because "hints" backed by retorts and a declining list of issues worked over in the subsequent versions speaks for themselves.

>>3613510
The render you've drawn here have gives the look like there should exist a third muscle, which have been your problem when rendering joints and bodyparts in other works. It goes back to the pillowshading, not the moisture or light (as you've yet to master this).

Your reception to fix things have set you back too, as the Olga piece you've slaved for seven hours with have yet produced a fine render.
No anatomical correction has been made, when you've been crtiticized countless times to correct the pelvis, pussy and perspective.

If there's an anon bogging you with spam messages to shit you down with retort, name use, archival example of dated art, just fucking don't reply. Stop, and move on.

>>3613456
I'm curious what your favorite artists are.
Is there a goal you want reach with your art when it comes to skill?
Whenever i look at your work i do see improvement but there's always something off about it. I think its the thick outlines and where you place them.

>>3613516
I do not see it as looking like third muscle at all. It looks in line with virtually every photo I have.

Two hours of linework, half for flats, and four hours for the render so far. If you can gather the words of render artists themselves on how long it takes, I will concede and double down on studies.

For some reason my photos did not show the labia minora folds all that well. Some corrections; I'll work the cross contours when I return.

>>3613528
Thank you for the civility.

Jim Lee, David Finch, Bruce Timm, Frank Frazetta, Daisuke Ishiwatari (Guilty Gear was a huge influence), Kazuya Kaneko (as was Shin Megami Tensei), Sachiko Wada (Fire Emblem), Real XXIII, Terufuu, Tarakunvich, Calm, and cutesexyrobutts.

I am used to heavily linework, due to insecurities around coloring that plagued me most of my life. Commission work has forced me to learn, and now I have begun to enjoy it tremendously.

If you want to chat up on Discord, hit me up at Hardstones McFlintcock##1729. Let me know what I can do to improve.

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