/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Normal ones are fine. Your budget also supports an iPad as an option for you want the PC built in

>>3719321
Don't go for chinese screen tablets, it's Wacom or nothing I speak from experience. The cheaper options are fine for the first year or two then they start doing all kinds of shit like stop responding to the pen. If I could go back I would never have bought one.

>>3719458
it's a huion, isn't it?

>>3719325
>if you want the PC built it
Has storage management actually improved on those things? It's been the biggest reason why I haven't gotten one. Granted I haven't used an IOS device since my really old iPod Touch.

>>3719458
Man, I have a Wacom and believe you me, there were times my tablet wouldn't even respond to my old computer. It's fine now, but to say Wacom is better when its drivers are shit is a bit of a lie.

I recently got one of the smaller XP pen displays because I had seen a few artists shilling it. It's better than my Huion, which was starting to die after only 6 months. Also I don't know who originally told me that there wasn't a difference between using a display and regular tablet, fuck you lying pieces of shit.

For the love of god try to avoid screenless tablets like the plague. The only time I started to enjoy using digital was when I got an iPad Pro.

screen tablets are still a technology too new to invest on when you're in a tight budget. Go safe with an intuos, plus a second screen if you like to draw while watching stuff or streaming

>>3719520
You are a retard if you believed them. There is a massive disconnect between tablet + screen compared to drawing straight on a screen/paper.

Get the Gaomon PD1560. Try that out. Return it if you hate it. Best in class and most affordable. Restocking fee is like
10 bucks

>>3719458
Is Huion really that weak? There esome famous artists who recommend them for beginners. Any experience with Huion? Also how is the learning curve in digital art?

>>3719458
Is Huion really that weak? There are some famous artists who recommend them for beginners. Any experience with Huion? Also how is the learning curve in digital art?

>>3719583
My Huion experiences constant jittering no matter how stable my hand is when drawing. The cable is garbage, and isn't secure in the port on the tablet. My first pen died after 4 months of usage. etc.

>>3719478
It's my first apple device. But basically for me I can upload my stuff to dropbox or use icloud. I don't bother with trying to do direct transfers but I'm sure it's possible.
>>3719524
Perhaps I got Stockholm syndrome but I was so in love with my intuos and everything that comes with it (sitting in a proper position, not having your hand block your view, etc) that it actually took me quite a while to get used to drawing on the screen. And honestly I don't know if I got any benefit from it besides the portability and other perks. So I don't think getting a screen is absolutely mandatory.

>>3719458
I've had an UGEE HK1560 for a few years now, no issues whatsoever. But I agree, it's always a bit of a gamble.

Get a 6th Gen iPad and Apple Pencil with Procreate/CSP/etc for maximum comfy. It's literally a digital sketchbook you can take around with you.

It's also a tablet so you can do shittons more with it than just drawing. Storage can be an issue at only 32Gb but you can always offload stuff to something like Google Drive or Dropbox.

>>3720023
>6th Gen iPad
>1.000 shekels

>>3720038
Nigga that's an iPad Pro

6th gen iPad is $329 and an extra $100 for the Pencil. It's literally one of the best deals for a screen tablet with the bonus of being a tablet for other shit.

If you're a Mac fag it's also a Cintiq.

So i ordered the Huion Inspiroy H950P, since it's recommened by Jazza? Saw this thread too late. How fucked am i?

>>3720124
Huion screenless tablets seem fine also detect tilt for that price is also nice

>>3719321
You should go with an intuos medium size. Its basically industry standard and offers the best quality for the money you can spend. This tablet survives when you upgrade or break your pc too, unlike the alrernatives.

The ipad is a good alternative for on the fly sketching, but still worse quality than the intuos. Personally decided against buying one despite traveling a lot, because apple is notorious for phasing out older models by draining the battery with software updates.

For a built in pc there is the surface and the wacom mobile, they are out of your budget. The price you pay for portable device is not worth it, both for actual money and for the loss in quality.

>>3719583
I got the new Kamvas 191 when it came out. It's better than the last generation but it doesn't really compare with the wacom premium.
Like the last anon said, it gets wonky after 2 years or so, has glaring issues like cursor placement and shit like that.
It does do its job fine though, except the fucking wobbling if you don't use stabilizers.
Really cheap at least.

>>3719321
for some people they really just can't wrap their head around not having a screen, for some people the lag when you do have a screen is distracting and makes it hard for them to draw. so there's pros and cons and really the truth is the main pro for the screen is that it looks cool.

but aside from that you can get a good tablet for like $50 these days, second hand or huion, so just try one out and see if that'll do you

>>3719471
Ugee but it all comes from the same place.

>>3719503
I can't imagine they'd be any worse than the Chinese drivers however I do speak from a point of ignorance as I have limited experience with Wacom and it's been far better than my experience with the cheaper option.

>>3719684
I'm glad to hear you're not having any issues anon but keep a close eye on it all the same.

>>3720720
Well, tried my new screenless tab today and have to admit it's fairly hard compared to trad art. But have to admit that coloring now digitally is pretty easy and fast.

>>3721917
Since I never used any of the other brands, I can only speak with my experience with my Intros. It works fine on the new machine (aside from some lag in CSP at times), but back when I had my old computer, it was like playing Russian Roulette with the driver and I had to keep the installation disk on hand regularly in case the driver stopped working when I booted it up.

>>3721917
>>3719684
So how's the Ugee HK1560? I had the 1910b for a couple of years and the pen worked great, but the screen was shit. I'm using a Huion Kamvas now and it's pretty good, great screen but the pen calibration is almost imposible to get right, and I'm not using the hotkeys anyway.

>>3719321
Intuos if you're a beginner. It's dumb to spend large amounts of money on stuff that you don't know you'll use a lot.

>>3719559
what pros and cons should one expect from the gaomon?

>>3722092
Man that sounds like the experience I have with my Ugee. I'm glad it's working out for you now though.

>>3722155
Mine was the Ugee-2150, I know it's not what you're asking for but take it from me, avoid.

>>3720023

Does an iPad 6th gen feel good to draw on? My story is as follows

>start drawing
>after a month of paper fall for wacom screenless meme
>feels like the pen is scratching the tablet and i just cant get comfortable
>sell it and take break from drawing

Got an iPad 6th gen a few months ago yet haven't got a pencil because i heard it feels like shit to draw on. But I want to get back into drawing so maybe I should just get it.

>>3719458

I will disagree on this. My huion kamvas 20 is awesome

>>3723248
It takes a bit of getting used to at first, as you're drawing on a glass surface so its a bit slippery. Go to an Apple store or Best Buy and you can usually find a display with a pencil.

You can mitigate that with a cheap matte screen protector to add a bit of resistance. It doesn't completely emulate drawing on a paper surface but it's much nicer than without.

Why is no one talking about Surface pro? They're pretty decent desu.

>>3723513
Because who can afford them lmao

>>3723144
>avoid
mind elaborating?

>>3723523
Used old models tho. If you're super poorfag you can get a SP2 for $250

>>3720720
I'm thinking about getting a GAOMON M106K. Should that be okay if you're just starting?

>>3723562
Even so you can get the new iPad and pencil for not much more and don't need to fight with old hardware. Some people require the OS but a lot of people are finding that they don't need it and work just fine with Procreate or csp

>>3723358
Didn't that just come out? if it's under 2 years then you speak prematurely, if it's over then you got lucky.

>>3723552
I did in a previous post but after a few years it's started to get real funny with the pen either not reading it correctly or outright shutting down on me with the only fix being restarting my PC. reinstalling drivers dosn't stop this from happening.

>>3719321
Newfag to digital as well here. Do these drawing tablets have the art software installed already or is that something I need to purchase ontop for my computer.

>>3723773
Software is not preinstalled on pendisplays or traditional tablets. Companion units might, but those are like 3k

>>3723773
>purchase
torrents my dude

>>3724311
are there any old photoshop torrents pre monthly sub program? and how do older photoshop programs hold up to krita?

Already got a Ipad Pro and i've been wanting to get a Apple pencil even though i haven't drawn anything in about what, 8 years?
I tried it once in a Apple Store. Sure i sucked but i thought it was cool and that if i keep doodling stuff i'll get better.
Also if i end up getting it, what are good apps that let me share my stuff onto my pc and that can use .psd files? I know Adobe stuff can do that but i'm not sure i think there might be better options.

>>3724311
Just give you fucking money to people that work so you can have fun holy shit

So am I going to be able to get a sub 500 display tablet that doesn't break in a week?

When I look at reviews for the 6th gen iPad and the pencil they always talk about sketching and drawing on the go

But how does it work for doing actual full fledged drawings and paintings?

>>3727106
It's perfectly fine for a full fledged piece unless you use layers for every single stroke you make. It has less RAM than the Pro so programs like Procreate give you less layers.

The main reason they push the sketching is due to the smaller size. You don't have as much screen real estate but it's easier to carry around with you and make little doodles. My iPad fits snuggly in my jacket pockets.

>>3724571
Procreate and csp allows you to export psd to your computer, Macos via Airdrop. Not sure about Windows though. I also started drawing and painting again after years of not touching art, and it’s been a blast on the iPad Pro.

>>3720124
>Recommended by Jazza

>>3719458
I know what you feel, I got a xp-pen 22 and the thing is a piece of garbage, lags all the time, has spacing issues, can't even have my other monitor on or the tabled refuses to work, driver is buggy as fuck, some programs are a bitch and a half to get them to work, and pen calibration doesn't fucking work. Right now I just use the thing for shitposts and as a 2nd monitor until I can get a wacom.
A complete waste of time and money. (I paid 600 bucks for it).

>>3719458
Wacom go away

>>3720124
Why would you buy anything recommended by Jazza?

>>3724571
You can export psds from Procreate to the local file system to move manually, or send it to iCloud, Dropbox, telegram, etc. Very easy to use with Windows.

>>3727106
It works well, I've done some commissions on my 9.7 pro (essentially the same hardware) but mostly cel shaded work.
He's Procreate's online portfolio thing that uses can upload work to. Large variety of work
https://procreate.art/showcase

>>3721949
go back to deviantart
what a fucking disaster