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What are some of the most common newbie mistakes? I'll start

>drawing the eyes first

>> No.3754395

>>3754306
>posting on ic
lmaoing@ngmis

>> No.3754418

>>3754306
>Asking shit instead of actually drawing.

>> No.3754444

studying loomis

>> No.3754450

>>3754306
>Rendering the head before even deciding the pose
>Pencil shading by scratching in straight lines instead of circles
>Watching something distracting while working
>Playing video games while working
>Chicken scratch

>> No.3754451

>>3754444
Based and checked quad quads
>>3754306
Not studying anatomy

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3754453

>>3754306
This art style.

>> No.3754461

>>3754450
Why shade in circles?

>> No.3754473

>>3754444
Perfect quads of truth.

>> No.3754474

>>3754461
It blends better. If you shade in straight lines the lines show up on the final unless you smudge it. But then smudging gets rid of the sharpness

>> No.3754494

>>3754306
Smudging to create shading

>> No.3754496

>>3754494
and to specify I mean while traditionally drawing with a pencil or charcoal, not digital painting

>> No.3754498

>>3754496
There are artists that smudge (with tortillons) for shading, if it's well done and confident it looks good

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3754507

>>3754306
pic related is one of the things I see total /beg/s do the most, especially those who draw anime
if you don't hint at the shapes inserting one into another it looks super flat

>> No.3754547

Every second they waste not reading Loomis.

>> No.3754568

>>3754306
>not using construction
>not being conscious of the Elements
>not hierarchizing
>not using canons of Proportion
>not using micromodels like thumbnails
>not Grouping
>conflating Shape and Form
>symmetrical relationships

>> No.3754577

Complaining about proportions when they can't even divide a line into 8 equal parts or even draw 2 lines of the same length even if they were next to each other.

>> No.3754580

Having the wrong art friends

Staying on 4chan

Basically, you need peers

>> No.3754602

>>3754568
>not using micromodels like thumbnails

wat?

>> No.3754803

>>3754444
>>3754547
So which is it?

>> No.3754846

>>3754803

The Not Loomis one.

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3754864

>>3754306
>drawing the eyes first
wot do u draw first?

>> No.3755079

>>3754864
build everything up at once evenly.

>> No.3755205

>>3755079
This. Most people use the head as the starting base, but ideally you want to be able to rough out the whole pose quickly and use different bodyparts as the base depending on your pose. That's part of what gesture studies are supposed to train you for.

>> No.3755215

>>3754602
thumbnailing your vision of what you want the artpiece to be is very helpful because it lets you fuck around with the composition and figure everything out before you even really start, making the process of creating easier because you don't have to think about those things while painting/drawing.

>> No.3755217

>>3754306
>using construction instead of training yourself to project your thoughts onto paper

>> No.3756368

>>3755205
>That's part of what gesture studies are supposed to train you for.
I fucking hate gesture studies, especially the 30sec-1 minute per drawing sessions. That shit aint fun or useful at all (for me at least).

>> No.3756369

>>3754395
Fpbp

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3756466

>>3754568

>not Grouping

>conflating Shape and Form

>symmetrical relationships

Eggsplain blz.

>> No.3756467

>>3754453
/thread

>> No.3756468

>>3755217
You need construction to train your minds eye.
The actual problem is when people turn construction into a collection of symbols, at which point it's just more complex symbol drawing.

>> No.3757097

>>3756368
If 30s to 1 minute is hard for you then you're making bad gestures and need to work on that more

>> No.3757101

>>3754450
shading in circle? never seen this before

>> No.3757112

>>3754306
Listening to people here instead of just bookmarking the sticky and leaving.
It's mostly just shitposters mixed with the blind leading the blind.

>> No.3757149

>>3757101
I was surprised when an art teacher told me about it the first time. It's pretty much trade secret I guess, but it worked. Small circles with the side of the pencil.

>> No.3757202

>>3754450
>>Watching something distracting while working
>>Playing video games while working
Damn it

>> No.3757250

>>3757097
But it’s torture

>> No.3757401

>>3756468
>you need construction
t. artlet

>> No.3757496

>>3756368
>especially the 30sec-1 minute per drawing sessions
I just draw the ass

>> No.3758160

>>3754803
The Loomis one.

>> No.3759089

>>3757250
No one said it would ever be easy.

>> No.3759451

>>3754306
>Looking for shortcut instead of practicing
>Looking for/at videos instead of practicing
>Whining about being a perfectionalist instead of practicing
>trying to create a product instead of practicing
>Trying to draw without understanding the 3d forms and space you are trying to convey, by basically just drawing symbols. that's how you get that "can only draw face from one angle".

>> No.3759462

>focusing on character design.
>not drawing the environment, or having the subject interact with that environment.
>not giving the subject an action or task to perform.
>flat even lighting
>subject is in center with face in top center.
>copying reference with out edits/ using one reference
>too many colors
>no white space
>too much detail