/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

get her out of that fucking school

>>4077683
It's garbage, she's learning garbage, and I hope to god she doesn't end up perpetuating that garbage with the next generation.

>>4077683
>I want to know if her art is actually as bad as I think it is.
It's pretty bad, even as abstract goes. With abstract, it's a low bar - make something that appealing to look at. Nobody would hang either painting up, for any aesthetic.

>>4077683
Terrible honestly. The colors arent even harmonious.

>>4077688
Art is something she cares a lot about. She's very weak and I dont know how to tell her that her art sucks. It will crush her. I like teaching people, hopefully if I get good enough I can teach her. Here's my first 2 drawings I made a few days ago

>>4077683
Please take her to a life drawing session so she can stop wasting her time.

>>4077691
yall like that transformer bedsheet? haha

>>4077691
An abstract artist, and a copy paster, it's perfect.

>>4077691
Anon your girlfriends art sucks. But its your job to love her. Not to teach her. Just keep your opinion to yourself.

>>4077691
I know our art is different, I'm kind of learning to draw so we have more things to do with each other.
>>4077696
Hey I'll learn not to copy haha
The day I drew the hand with the stone was the same day I learned what the difference in a HB and 5H pencil was haha.

>>4077691
You're doing the bargue plates wrong. Did you even read the text? Or did you just start drawing the pictures?

>>4077699
I don't know what any of that means, I just bought what my girlfriend said I would need and she told me to do a grid and it will help me copy it.

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S-SHE WANTS TO BE A ARTIS-
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SO YOU'RE TELLING ME SHE SOME KINNA '''''ARTIS-
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*wheeze*
hoowee
s-she wants to be a TEACHER for ART and that's her work- pffft
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seriously though:
please livestream it when you tell her she's bad and to quit before she wastes more money

>>4077700
The whole point of the bargue plates is to teach you to measure with your eyes. Its supposed to teach you to identify large statements and organize the shapes and simplify the light and shadow incrementally. Putting a grid over it defeats the purpose. Read the damn book.

>>4077702
Honestly for me it's enough to break up with her, because she doesn't have any other hobbies. When we first got together I thought she was a really good artist and I thought I would look up to her and respect her in that way, but I guess not.

>>4077703
When I first drew that I was just trying to learn shading and it was a test for myself to see if I liked drawing. I'll definitely read the instructions with it when I draw another one

>>4077702
>please livestream it when you tell her she's bad and to quit before she wastes more money

She's nice and doesn't deserve that kind of roast. Art has been a huge part of her life forever, I'm so damn surprised she isn't good yet, it's scary.

>>4077688
To be fair she's in a community college right now for it and plans to school for at least 2 more years in just art

>>4077691
for a beginner you're suprisingly good
but as a LARPer you're fuckin trash

>>4077714
Thanks, but this is real, I can post proof if you really need it

>>4077683
> I always make fun of her shitty art.
> what she does isn't of value
> I just can't believe she doesn't want to show me her art haha

people are saying it's shit but honestly I like the right, think it would look nice on a wall.

>>4077691
what's even the point? my auntie sucks at art, & so what? she likes doing it. If someone is actually asking for critique then yeah say it sucks.

>>4077720
If she wasn't going to school for it and wasn't depending on THIS shit to fund the rest of her life I would have no issue as well.

>>4077683
Well op. Most people are idiots and dont even know what good art looks like. As long as she understand the theoretical aspect of art she'll probably be fine as a teacher or whatever.

>>4077726
She tells me all the time how she knows a bunch of the fundamental art stuff like presentation and all that junk they pretend you need to know in school just to make money off you, but I've never seen her demonstrate her skills in any way. She's just planning on being a high school art teacher so I guess it's not something you need to be as talented as fucking picaso or whatever to do

>>4077683
I like her paintings anon. The colors are nice. I wouldn't mind hanging them up in a white room to spruce it up with splashes of color while not drawing attention to themselves.

What I'm saying is, they have a place. They have some appeal. They aren't worthless. And making them makes her happy and you like seeing her happy. All these things have value.

But.... Her skillset is limited. Very much so.
I would never pay for one of these. I'd never go see them in a gallery. I wouldn't consider hiring her for...any art position really. Not even a consultant.
her artwork doesnt impress me, strike emotion in me, or give me anything to think about or dissect. You have eyes anon. You see the same thing I do.
I'm assuming a lot here but... I think your gf has too much trust in the system. I see this in both her art and your recent reply about the advice she gave you. She is parroting what she's heard. I have seen this sort of thing before. 1/2

>>4077726
>hurr durr art doesn't have to look good to be art
fuck off
she neither poses the skill of Picasso or the purpose of Kazmir Malevich for her art to look bad but be meaningful

>>4077729
2/2

If this is truly what she wants to make then by all means go full steam ahead.
But if she is looking to have a good grasp on the fundamentals of art, as in how the human eye sees and how the human brain processes visuals, she is being scammed. This is not uncommon in high art education. Many art teachers know very little and set their students up to fail. It's a well known issue.
Think about the amount of people who actively want to learn to paint like the pieces you posted. How many people can that even be?

And then people who are actually willing to shell out money for this sort of thing? Like, even selling super appealing art can be tough.

I do not know what to say to your girlfriend. But I know that if you have to explain to someone *why* a piece is beautiful, you have failed majorly.

Even if she pursues more art education and eventually becomes a capable and versatile craftsman, she is being dicked around by her current college right at this moment. I don't think "oh but eventually they'll start teaching me the REAL stuff" is a good excuse.
If I went to subway and ordered a roast beef sandwich and they told me I had to first order and pay for and eat a sandwich made of paper, I would tell the subway dude to go fuck himself.

But somehow that becomes okay if everyone's doing it, right?

>>4077729
>they have a place. They have some appeal. They aren't worthless. And making them makes her happy and you like seeing her happy. All these things have value

Since we've been together I haven't seen her paint anything at home. I might have teased her too much and her insecurities of thinking to herself that she's a bad artist must have taken over. She does collage art sometimes but it's not the same, anyone can do fucking collage art

she has a lot of paintings, I just grabbed 2 random ones from the closet, I might post more

>>4077738
What do I say, it's killing me and I don't want to come off as if I know more about art than she does. Should I direct her path at all? I can't just stay silent about this

>>4077683
Anon, if you want to appreciate her art, ask her to explain it to you. If she wants to be an art teacher she should be able to it, even if it requires you to learn a crash course in art history. Also, collage art is better than abstract art.

As far as her paintings go, they're okay, not great not terrible, and I honestly think she might have potential with more practice. Post her collages.

>>4077751
See if you can ask innocent questions in relevant conversations. At the end of the day your direction is useless if she still isn't thinking for herself. I think thats the biggest problem here. She needs to ask herself what it is she wants to do, and what her skills should be.

>>4077725
>depending on this for an income

If she only likes abstract that would be a bigger waste of time.

well, if you're in love and going to marry her you're going to have to take on her art school debt and both of you are going to live in denial for the sake of love. art teachers in public education are all very terrible so her skill level won't matter. but again. both parties are in obvious denial and don't want to point out the elephant in the room. she knows damn well she sucks ass and she's not good at anything else and she runs from the fact that she sucks ass. She's delusional and in denial and you're enabling her. I know you love her and all, but, again, if you were her father what would you say to her? Reality is reality. You can't run from the cold harsh reality. The Truth. Anyway... you know how it's going to end. The illusion is going to be broken one day by the cold harsh reality of failure and loss of hope and then probably and identity crisis and wallowing and you on the other side of it trying to help a delusional shattered weak individual. You enable this weakness. I think.. maybe if you loved her you'd tell her the truth, and make it from a place of caring and worry. She'll just become weaker and weaker and when her plans and identity and everything else falls apart she'll probably seppuku or beg you to wife her so she'll do nothing but sit and watch the kids all day.
Again... you're breeding this weakness in her. If you loved her you'd do what is best for her. God is loving. But he is also cruel at times. But it always comes from a place of love. You're not loving her right now.. you're hurting her and making her fester in mediocrity and delusion.

>>4077725
>depending on this for an income

If she only likes abstract learning anything else would be a bigger waste of time.

>>4077704
That is crazy harsh. You're supposed to grow together. It's what she loves, and you're who she trusts. People are allowed to like different forms of art, and people are allowed to think they're better than they are while they find their style/improve at their own pace. If you do leave her, do NOT tell her its because of her art. That's some fucking earth shattering traumatic shit that will just ruin her.

>>4077708
Sounds like she's the type of roastie that dabbles in something without serious intent so she can tell others and herself that she has some kind of hobby, but doesn't want to actually put in the work to improve. I don't think there are any standards to be an art teacher but fuck I wouldn't take an enormous debt to become an one. If she finds a cheap art school then let her do it I guess.

>>4077683
The one on the right looks amazing

>>4077691
>Art is something she cares a lot about. She's very weak and I dont know how to tell her that her art sucks.

Sent her this thread. She needs to know asap. It's not the end of the world if she is only 20 she can learn all the fundies really quick. Just don't let her be delusional anymore or she will suffer eventually in the future. Also she already know that she is shit at art why would she be so shy about it. Do a right thing Anon, go and tell her. It's not a big deal. Anyway, what's her favorite artists?