/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Reminder, that Mark Rothko was a depressive, communist jew.

>>4377822
so it is both a marxist ploy and a CIA plot? how does that make any sense?

>>4377822
That's not art.

>>4377822
ITT brainlets who don't understand Rothko.

>>4377835
Okay amawu

>>4377842
I sure don't but I try desperately hard too.

>>4377826
Go to fucking /pol/ and stay there.

Don't leak your /pol/ garbage outside of its containment board.

>>4377844
Stop calling people amawu retard, i bet you don't even know what that's really means.

>>4377862
What's it mean?

Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35

January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals
EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

>>4377822
Ohh look its another
>"i am too stupid to understand abstract art, thoughts and visuals" thread.
Might as well call it :
>AMAWU THREAD

>>4377890
Fake news.

>>4377842
I don’t but I sure do pretend to. “You just have to see them in person. Pictures don’t do them any justice.”

>>4377822
>So deep, so emotional
So shallow, so empty. Modern art and their weird urban fetish stroking.

>>4377898
Explain it please.

>>4377890
cool how you even formatted it to look official and stuff!

the proof that anticommunists aren't nothing but brainless basterds

>>4377943
Fuck off Amawu

>>4377822

If you're an Amawu don't fuck up this thread.

Just go talk about your Naruto fan art elsewhere.

There are 33 anime threads...

Why do Amawus have to shit up this thread?

>>4377995
Because you’re sperging out.

>>4378010
>Raging about Rothko bot being anime art.

>it's me who is spergjng out

>>4378019
Yes

>>4377949
In my experience, there is really no point trying to educate amawus about any forms of art. Besides of course anneemay. If i were to give you this free knowlege, explained clearly and correctly, you would probably just continue your silly ignorance all the same, its pointless.

>>4378132
You just made my point, thanks.

>>4378132
Why did you make up this word and spam it everywhere?

>>4377822
>Non-representational art is the visual arm of cultural marxism.

Yes. As people like Ilistrat prove, people of color cannot into representation art, ergo representation art is meritocracy, ergo it is the domain of white and Asian men primarily. People of color look at the beautiful art of Western culture and compare it to the products of their own culture and see stark proof of white superiority. Thus, representational art must be denigrated and attacked for hurting POC's feelings.

>>4378165
Picasso was inspired by African art.

Go back to /pol/

>>4378135
Ok amawu

>>4378255
Meanwhile real art doesn't need any pseudo intellectual bullshit to be appreciated.

>>4378297
Looks like a photo.
So boring... just get a camera of you wan to make stuff like that.

>>4377847
Stfu tranny

>>4378321
Trannys are cool.

>>4378255
>amawu
Wtf is this new /ic/ meme?

>>4377822
>the visual arm of cultural marxism
This, my thoughts exactly.

It stems from the very same way of thinking as a purple haired fat grotesque disgusting shit calling itself beautiful.

The lefties believe that everything is of equal value and everybody deserves the same.
Equality of outcome means that a fat disgusting whale deserves to be on the magazine cover just like a fit healthy person who kept diet and discipline since was born.

That also goes for art. A lazy talentless hack incapable of drawing anything at all deserves the same recognition and benefits as a master of arts who is creating real beauty.

And that's why that shit is pushed so hard everywhere, part of the global brainwashing.
And it needs to be called out on what it is.

>>4378331
Just a lonely retarded forcer desperate for attention.
I hope he starves to death.

>>4378322
Homicidal Rapists are cool, said the homicidal rapist.

>>4378331
A new meme, it makes weeb artists seeth.
Just call those retards amawus and watch them give out free (you)s

>>4378405
No this is just what people say to cope with the new meme.

There is more than one person saying it.

>>4378470
Quote this post and quote nine and you will see there will only be one (you)

>>4378299
>Looks like a photo.
what drugs are you on? It looks like a painting, by someone who never even seen a photo.

>>4378477
Looks like what people painted before the camera was invented because they couldn't rake photos.

>please please quote me
No.

>>4378477
>>4378477#
Looks like what people painted before the camera was invented because they couldn't take photos.

>>4378493
Because it might break your illusion that just 1 person says it.

>>4378496
Ok here's a (You) now fuck off.

>>4378500
You have to do it to all the >Amawu posts to see it's more than 1 person.

Have to? Bitch i just threw you a bone out of pity, I don't owe you shit, i didn't even have to do that.

>>4378504
Okay Amawu.

>>4378504
Lol this amawu is so bitter and angry, i bet he is fat.

>>4378526
He thinks we are the same person.

>>4378400
This is the most Amawu comment in here by far.

>bbbut you just don't understand
Hey faggot, here's a challenge for you.
Do you understand Rothko?
Do you appreciate his profound meaning and intricacy?

Then formulate and describe it. I will admit being wrong and stupid if you do. I may even drop waifus and pick up Suprematism if you convince me. After all i love lising arguments, that's like education but for free.

Like all of my professors on every subject said
>If you really understand it you should be able to explain it
And i did. I got through math, phys and turbojet design by demonstrating profound understanding. Nothing Impresses more than solving a problem verbally while looking prof in the eyes.

Because i bet I get Rothko. I think i understand what it means as I explained here >>4378400
It is a straight up deliberate and direct attack on the real art. It is the literal shit to pollute the galleries on purpose.
How do you like my explaination? Do i understand it?

>>4378541
I agree, truly the perfect amawu, almost sature, You can truly feel the ignorance and bitterness oozing from that post.

If I am so ignorant you could embarass me so easily.

Just think about it, you can be a hero, you could get respect, people wpuld gove you (You) if only you could argue against an ignorant fool, he is so obviously wrong it would be so very easy right? Like no effort at all.

But you can't can you?
You don't really have anything to argue with except your preinstalled NPC firmware and willful ignorance.
You chose not to think and not to ask, your curator told you that Rothko is good and you took it for a truth.

But i prefer to think for myself, and i think they lied that Rothko was good.

But hey I'm so stupid and ignorant you could defeat me so very easily, right?

>>4378543
I bet you would rather see general waifus in the the louvre than a Rothko because that's your idea of high art.

>>4378561
It might have been explained by now if you weren't shitting all.over the thread.


You seem to know so much about it so you should explain it.

>>4378562
I think Louvre and galleries are to demonsteate the top notch artistic accomplishments, preferably show a history of artistic progress before renaissance, during and after so i could see how the craft evolved and reached heights. How masters learned fr one another and then moved forward.

As for waifus they are an example of mass/popular culture, while Rothko is more of the anti/counter culture. Rothko is a cultural vandalism like vreaking or painting the statues you don't like. It has a NEGATIVE VALUE.

So yeah waifus are objectively of greater value than that.

>>4378587
I would say they are almost the same ki d of thing except walrus are mass produced shit of little value where a Rothko isn't..

>>4378581
>You seem to know so much about it so you should explain it.

Hey, I did. >>4378400 >>4378543
TLDR is "Rothko bad and evil" and I explained why.

Your move.

>>4378132
>You wouldn't understand

>>4378593
You didn't explain shit.

In still not any closer to understanding Rothko.

>>4378400
>The lefties believe that everything is of equal value and everybody deserves the same.
I just want some workers rights, trains and the mega corps to actually pay taxes.

>>4378591
>are almost the same ki d of thing
Strange, i feel they are very different.

The waifus are the cheeseburger of art, cheap, popular mass produced and kinda ok.
Rothko in other hand is like throwing a brick through the window.
Zero effort, zero cost, negative value and causes a scandal. It's not even painted with good paint, that's the paint for your house wall and a wide roller right there.

>>4378602
Pss kid you gonna fucking hate the trains when you get them, trust me we have them.

Btw did you know why the commies built such extensive train networks?
Because in their worldview a regular person can't have a car, he lives in his assigned commieblock and goes to his assigned job next door and doesn't get to pick and chose.

The burgers instead built roads.

>>4377822
I think abstract art and all that stuff is actually the evolution of art, you see, we've always drawn stuff from reality, things that were "useful" (in an artistic way). Wild animals only do useful stuff, so when you actually do something that is practically nothing you are demonstrating you, in a way, are over basic Instincts. Abstract art is like the art inside the art. I'm not saying it's better, in fact I'm not a fan of those pieces in the slightest, but they do have an interesting meaning.

>>4378604
I would say throwing a brick through a window is a positive thing.

>>4378614
You are confusing the word communism with dictatorship.

>>4378614
I already own a car, I want trains to ship stuff around rather than having the truckers union/mafia get congress to artificially prop up trucks over trains.

Seriously Rothko confuses the fuck out of me.

I keep reading "Instead of thinking about the skill and time involved in painting it stop and think about how it makes you feel"

It makes me feel nothing... It's a fucking rectangle.

It's like when graffiti removalists paint a square over a wall to cover the cover graffiti..


Except I get more feeling from the buffed over graffiti because it tells more of a story.

It shows what might have happened and it shows a clash of different points of view.. I enjoy that.

But Rothko shit is just a fucking rectangle... I don't get itt!

>>4378618
Not really dictatorship could be liberal or not, Gaddafi was and absolutely lovely dictator and people adored him. At least the Syrian student told me so.

And communism is a utopian delusion that doesn't make any sense.

>>4378629
You can have communist democracy.

What most hipsters wan or is democratic socialism not a dictatorship.

>>4378633
No.
The communism requires redistribution ow wealth, whoever has the power to give and take your shit has absolute power and may just take all for themselves.

Also communism requires somebody to do the hard or shitty jobs on the same living standards as the fun or easy jobs. Nobody would chose to be a septic tank cleaner so some people gave to be forced, by invisible hand of the market or by the comissar's gun.

>>4378650
What you are explaining is the reality of why communism doesn't work.

This is not the definition of communism however.

>>4378655
Definition of communism is the utopian delusion

And I would argue it's not even a good or fair one.
>From each by his ability to each by their needs
That sounds good untill you think about it. That says that the smartest, strongest and the able are going to do all the fucking work while the needy, lazy and incapable get all the benefits and you will have the geniuses and complete fuck ups living on the same standards.

Its a rather shitty utopia.

>>4378674
I don't disagree with that.

>>4378615
I understand, what you mean. But "this" art isn't meant to be purposeless. It is acclaimed, sells for millions and art historians write books about it. And not accidentally so, it was the artists intention.
Closing your eyes and walking backwards to china without telling someone would be an act of purposelessness.

>>4378760
Yeah I don't mean it's exactly pointless, but it is certainly way different than an actual representation of something in reality.
What I mean by "pointless" is that it doesn't point at something real or that resembles anything of that nature, something we can't associate to our daily lives. And yeah some of these paintings do represent feelings and stuff, but they are focusing on ideas and not the material thing.

>>4378623
It is a snobish distinction to claim to "get it". People who are willing to have deep associations in front of "these" artworks will "get it", the others won't.
I agree with you, overpainted graffitis and other structures that just happened, seen not in an museal context are superior to intentional non representative art. For me.

>>4378587
>>4378543
>>4378504
>>4378400
>>4378297
>>4377890
>>4377822


Hey, Rothkos paintings are minimalist abstractions whose sole goal is playing with the visual tension that arrises from a few elements interacting together.

Its much more like ambient music, like brian eno or something very textural, in which the tempo (the complexity visually you could say) is turned down so much that you are standing there taking in a visual sensation of a color vibrating.

I dont think they are about a deeper meaning inherently, i havent read much about it, i simply view them as visceral experiences, something almost purely for the senses.

The intriguing thing for me as an outsider, looking at this discussion (because i draw and paint/design both figuratively and abstractly) is this divide between abstraction and "realism"

Theres several things here, first of all, realise that the same mechanics that you utilize visually to create contrast and visual interest in a stylized (dare i say abstracted version) of a human, i.e. Anime or animation, is the very same tools that a person who composes purely abstractly uses.

Its about the juxtaposition of lines, and placement/proportion along with the clashing of values and textures, directionality and shapelanguage.

You are doing the exact same thing when you design an appealing figurative drawing making all these small decisions on whether a line should be straight, or curved, or where you want to put emphasis and lead the eye.

An artist dealing purely in abstraction, is still playing the same visual game that you are, only they have removed the need to make painting about a specific subject thats figurative.

That doesnt mean that either one is more or less skilled than the other.

When you use less means for composing, those few decisions that you make become all the more important, it requires a lot of visual knowledge of how shapes interact and create tension, to activate a picture plane with few means.

>>4378836
To me this unintentional art looks way better than a Rothko.

>>4378838
Continued:

ore important, it requires a lot of visual knowledge of how shapes interact and create tension, to activate a picture plane with few means. Vice versa it also requires a lot of knowledge of human anatomy to know how to abstract that in a few lines, and stylize it in an appealing way while not losing the volume or what is represented.


What is sad here to me, is this need to divide visual fields that could inform each other and create more interesting works of art.

You could learn a lot about composition and the interaction of contrast from viewing and analyzing abstract art - and utilize that in your figurative drawing in a very intriguing way.

What if you tried to create a scene stylized heavily and figurative, but in which you went for the sensation of a big textural piece like a rothko.

The more you draw and you read and take in about it, abstract art makes a lot of sense as a natural step in a certain direction, since eventually you might think "oh im just making shapes here, why does it have to look like something" and then purely focus on composition.


Now again, i dont think one is better than the other, they are different modes of expression requiring different skillsets, but to write off a whole movement really just isolates you from an area of knowledge that you could use in your own drawings, that would give them a deeper sense of appeal and visual design.


I hope i could explain some of these things cohesively, i normally dont reply but i just think its sad to have this weird divide.

Much love :-)

>>4378838
A lot of idiots here think abstract art ignores the fundamentals l.

Stupid Am.awu kids.

>>4378840
Yours is more narrative, but it lacks those marvelous vibrating borders (worth $86,9 million) rothko did.

>>4378840
>>4378836

I think its cool that you have that vision and perception of your surroundings, that just shows that you understand the inherent observational context thats behind a lot of abstract art.

Which is sometimes that way shapes and light and textures collide in the real world.

Its like micro compositions, but blown up to a bigger size.

I agree that i see things in my everyday life that are infinitely more intriguing texturally, like a set of cracks, or peeled of paint or whatever have you.

Just as i figuratively see people interacting and gesturing in ways that are way more natural and beautiful than a lot of paintings.

Thats the nature of inspiration, and the eluding spark that keeps you intrigued.

Some people spend more time looking at shapes and textures, whereas other people are interested in the mode of expression that painting figuratively offers - i cant see why one is supposedly more correct than the other, both overlap somewhere in the middle either way, so its a spectrum where both camps can utilize the visual algorithms of each other.

>>4378850
I mean I don't think they are bad paintings.
They could be used to brighten up a boring wall or whatever...

I just don't see how they are the work of a genius and an important part of art history.

everyone who was assed enough to post in this thread should read Bluebeard by Kurt Vonnegut. it's a ~10-hour read about a failed abstract expressionist.

>>4378863
I will screen shot this so I don't forget

>>4378857
Personally i think the pricing of those paintings is ludicrous, and when things become worth that much i feel its a little bit of an insult to humanity, i still really love the idea, and the visual conceptual things that lie behind it AND i think what he did in the time he did is an important step in a certain direction, he helped map an area of expression that was waiting for someone to discover it.

But generally i think that the clash of art and money speculation is pretty disgusting, so that would really go for any piece.

Some of these things a like vouchers, being traded around, constantly trying to heighten the price, and hype the piece.

At the same time i dont think its worth nothing, but i do agree with you that its too much.

>>4378838
Well this isn't surprising

>>4378867
Was he the first one to do it?

>>4378838
You know there is some abstract art that kinda looks cool, but if I came across any Rothko's painting i would mistake it for a rug somebody wiped the brush with and threw away.

I think that a real artistic value is immutable, something that looks fucking special, good, interesting or cool at the first glance.

Nobody would mistake the real art for trash.

Right views = merit based
Left views = nepotism and quotas

Art like the one I've attached would be considered conservative art in today's political spectrum.

>>4379074
This is the most retarded fucking Thing I have ever read.

Also contemporary art has nothing to do with right right or left wing.


I'd like you to explain to me the Brutalists and how they fit into your stupid theory of how 'left wing art is more creative whole right wing art is more like what a camera can do'.

>>4378926
Probably not, but he did it in a big a convincing way.

There are other painters who have been in very similar areas, so in that sense i dont think his merit is that he was the only one.

Im also not trying to say that rothko is somekind of abstract art genius that is the best of all abstract expressionists, im just trying to open up the spectrum of expression and make you guys (hopefully) realize that abstract works can have visual merit.

Anyway, if you dont like it, thats fine. But i do feel that you might be missing out on a range of expression in your work if you dismiss it as being intellectual, if anything abstract art (to me) is something purely for the senses.

>>4378921
First i didnt get what you were trying to say with this -
Then i realized its 4chan, and so i understood.

I dont think thats very nice, in fact i think its wild inappropriate.

What if someone brought up your race or descent as a way to denigrate your art, completely bipassing your intent or the amount of work you put into something.

Seriously, not cool....

This is the most retarded fucking Thing I have ever read.

Also contemporary art has nothing to do with right right or left wing.


I'd like you to explain to me the Italian futurists and theie righy wing ideals and how they fit into your stupid theory of how 'left wing art is more creative whole right wing art is more like what a camera can do'.

>>4379074
Right wing, left wing - a bird has both :-)

If anything conservative politics push to have nepotistic systems maintained, so that everything can go on as it always has.

This whole place is so infatuated with this left vs right - jordan peterson/memeing - bigfoot yeti dismantling snowflake lizard facts are not feelings/incel chad obsessing bullshit.

I get why some people think identity politics and the obsession and word-throwing of certain people is wildly irritating and frustrating.

I also get why people are really frustrated with misogynistic and racist internet warriors.

(see, now you got me also, im too easy..)

>>4379083
What genre is Rothko's art?

>>4379088
The art world has a lot of nepotism and who your friends know type stuff.

>>4379079
Are you so sure?
The modern leftists with all their entitlement to everything including respect and approval, pride about things they stick up their ass, body positivity and other shit.
>I exist so you must do what I want

And look at the modern art
>I took a shit and this is art because i say it is

Don't you feel a pattern of undue entitlement?
Traditional art expects to EARN respect by being good. That painting looks good and is done good, and people are impressed.

The modern art demands respect because it says it's art. Kinda like the naked king

>>4379089
Abstract expressionism, colorfield painting
I guess you could say minimalism, and suprematism also.

But i dont know why this is important, its an experience, and sure its part of a bigger movement, in fact - im not too big of a fan of these works, id love to see them in person.

I was trying to explain why some abstract art has merit as ambient pieces, or compositionally and how you can learn from that and it can improve your figurative art.

Im not an expert in art history and i dont claim to be, i focus on drawing and painting and making, those are my domains.

>>4379096
i can see how some things i write seem contradictory, like im not a fan of them but i would like to see them - roughly meant, i think it would be a worthwhile experience, but rothko is not my main source of inspiration for painting or for motivating me to make things, but there are others, mostly sculptors that i look a lot at.

>>4379096
People here think Anthony lister work looks like a bunch of paint splattered on a canvas which I can't understand.

I mean I can get comments like that about Rothko and Pollock but sayingvthat about listers work makes me wonder if we are even looking at the same painting.

>>4379091
I agree, and i think its bullshit also.

Obviously these things exist in many different fields and camps.

Art elitism is frustrating, and i have many similar attitudes to it as you might have (i think)

But i still dont want to unduly stamp something as intellectual bullshit, just because it exists in a context that is full of intellectual bullshit.

I can look at something, and judge it from a perspective of drawing and creating and composing, and i understand why he did those pictures - the visual thought behind it makes sense to me, even though i delve in an area way more towards the figurative than abstract.

>>4379103
People don't want to let go and coming artists into galleries or shows or give them even a little funding or opportunities because if they start to show talent they might take away some of the more established artists shine or sales.

>>4379100
I mean now its just my taste right.. but i think that guys work (lister) is a bit crude. The color decisions are not harmonising very well, and i can understand why someone would think that hes hiding a poor visual understanding under expressiveness.

But, i think (perhaps like you said) that the work is very figurative.

But this is just my taste though, harmony in forms and color is very important to me and i like when all shapes or colors come from a family but have diversity within them, like watching clouds or trees, generally emerging from a similar pattern but with a variety in how those exact forms manifest.

>>4377822
>knows nothing about marxism
why are you nazis so stubbornly stupid?
or are you nazis because you're so stubbornly stupid?

>>4377831
The CIA and the Marxists have always been one and the same. The Cold War was an inside job. Wake up, sheeple!

>>4379105
It is also a shop, and its very business oriented, and sometimes that means hyping something thats profitable, or something that you can speculate in, which i definitely think is the ugly side of the art world.

>>4379109
If you could see his sketch books and how much life drawing he does.you would see he isn't though.

I think just that style of art is very confront to someone who has only studied anime art... it contradicts a lot of what they have read not realising how big the art world and what I encapsulates actually is.

>>4379114
Sometimes they have these over priced exhibitions that last like 3 days and have big entry fees which they pretend is a way of supporting smaller artists but it's just a cash grab.

>>4379091
I was thinking, or better yet, I had the recent comic-book industry in mind, it's no longer merit based, how fast and good you can draw/write, how easy going you are but what your political views are, who do you know, are you popular on Twitter and Tumblr, ect.. which is why mainstream comics these days are absolutely awful.

>>4379120
For comparison this is what the James Bond comic from 2017 looked like.

>>4379074
untrue because every fucking faggot knows leyendecker

>>4379125
Who?

>>4379126
Kek :D

>>4378838
Hahahahah lmao

>>4377904

>>4377956

literally did one second of googling to find the official document, go look for yourself you fucking lemmings

https://cultureshield.com/PDF/45_Goals.pdf

>>4380469
Yeah and jet fuel can't met steel beams.

>>4377822
Your time would be better spent reading an art history book instead of posting bait threads like this, OP; fuck off until you've done that.
>>4380469
Why is that pdf hosted on what looks to be an christian dominionist website? This is some real mask off bullshit; are you even trying?

>>4377822
Sorry, but I didn't read all the posts.

I just wanna say that communists do hate reality and indeed can be crazy enough to come up with ways to try and destroy meaning.

It appears to me, though, that these initiatives are never successful for long. Reality just can't be broken. They can kill a lot of people or try to bend meanings, but smart people will always see things as they really are.

>>4377822
>posts color field painting from the 1950s
>is da cultural marxists; fugg da joos >:(

>>4380494
If communists like abstraction so much, then why did the Soviets kill Constructivism and adopt Socialist Realism? Not a day goes by where I dream what would've happened had Tatlin, Rodchenko and Stepanova been given a few more years of state backing. Instead, we got decades of Neoclassicism draped in red, and not much to show for it.

>>4379982
Hahahahah lmao

Why don’t conservatives recognize that they lack the mindset to make it?

>>4380528
*not a day goes by where I don't dream

>>4377822
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/9-acts-of-art-vandalism-1630771

Remember when garbage like this was vandalized for being shit art cause I do

>>4377842
There's nothing to understand, it's all a scam. If you have to read a manifesto to understand a piece, it's fundamentally failed as a work and it's not able to stand on it's own as a visual work.

That said, Rothko is just a cheap Josef Albers knock-off.

>>4381199
Who?

>>4378165
pyw

>>4378297
>"real art"

>>4377904
not fake news. Adolf lost. now everything is ugly on purpose.
cant show beauty, then it would be revealed that Europeans are the most beautiful race.
beauty must be deconstructed.
hence the modern trope in proclaiming analyses such as "that crumpled up piece of paper with bird shit on it is beautiful"

>>4378165
truth.
>>4378169
picasso is ugly bullshit.

You feel. His painting is bigger than what you see on the screen. Look at his painting in real life to feel what he felt.

>>4379120
truth.

>>4382698
>>4379120
Low art for the NPC

>>4378165

>/pol/

>>4382690
That's not comparable.

>>4382693
Okay Am'awu

>>4377842
I think I've heard this 'argument' before...
>>4377908
I've seen a big room of them and they are canvas with big shapes of colour on. The room you're sitting in right now has big walls also of colour, bow down before it, anon.

>>4378299
You're either mentally retarded, or need glasses. Or both of course; I was just being kind giving you a singular option, there.

>>4378331
One tri hard keeps repeating his word much like an annoying 6 year old does to get attention from their mommy.

>>4378543
>Like all of my professors on every subject said

I think we have the root of all that is wrong in this thread, right here.
Imagine having to be told to learn to like big canvas of colour just to please others. And to pat yourself on the back. Possibly even thinking "I can do that, I can be an artist too."
Instead of loving actual art and humbly realising you will spend a lifetime trying to match up to those who have gone before.

>>4377822

Cultural marxism was literally against abstract art. Worry about something more important.

>>4378614
Trains are one of the best forms of public transportation when maintained and planed well.

>>4378614
Fuck cars, trains are superior in every way.

>>4378614
yeah totally not the fault of the cars lobby buying and closing trains and tram station

>>4381216
>he doesn't know who Josef Albers was
Take a fucking art history course anon, god damn.

>>4384777
I would be surprised if you could deliver a source for your contestation.

>>4385173
I only care about Anime art so no.

>>4385908
Take a media studies course on animation history and a studio art course on figure drawing, then.

>>4384777
Do you honestly expect anyone in this thread to be well read on the Frankfurt School, anon?

>>4385931
I doubt, there is a source. Fake news!

Frankfurter Schule 1924 - late forties
Abstract Expressionism early fifties - sixties

>>4378614
No America desperately needs a better railway system. Flight is pretty much the only decent way to travel here and even that kinda sucks.

>>4379120
Wrong, but okay.

>>4378838
>>4378841
Based

>>4378838
>>4378841
You typed a lot and said absolutely nothing with is typical of leftist that defend this type of work. Just say that the kike has conections and faggots are buying his shit for tax evasion

>>4377822
No, it was just America's attempt to destroy European culture to put itself above it.
Porn is the epitome of cultural marxism.