/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4521059
All women are Queens and the only way to make m*n look interesting or good in comparison is to make them next to the ugliest (but still beautiful) women.

>>4521059
So you can see the form and value, retard.

Talking about tradition and history, plump female bodies were what was considered healthy and beautiful. Also the female body was considered inferior to the male, it is reflected in their representation.

>>4521077

>>4521077
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSS QUEEN SLAY

>>4521059
That's because, despite what straightshitters say, the male body is inherently more beautiful than the female.

>>4521059
>ugly
That's your opinion man

>>4521090
Nothing beats the elegance of a delicate female body. It's like comparing a bull with a cat.

>>4521104
But bulls are more beautiful than cats.

>>4521059
the fourth female body is good

not to blog but in america women are allowed to be 300lbs but men need to be 5’9 and muscular to be considered attractive. idk why you chose older figure studies, human models regardless of gender have always been diverse in age and weight, those sketches are cherrypicked.

>>4521109
this. and cats are assholes

>>4521121
Her upper body is nearly the same size as her legs (3/4).

>>4521059
They’re studies OP. You use male body to study muscle, use female body to study fat.

>>4521059
men are in the image of the creator and thus perfect. women are a flawed construct and
once artifical womb technology is developed they will cease to exist and a great step forward for humans will be reached.
a land of philosopher kings and trap serfs, just like the old times

>>4521183
But anon, the creator is a female.

>>4521059
She's cute. Have sex.

>>4521225

>>4521235
What's the problem?

>>4521183
Men are inferior at an organic level. They're more violent, they die sooner, male mortality rates among infants are significantly higher, they have markedly higher rates of neurological diseased, and when both sexes are subject to the same disease males have a significantly higher rate of mortality.

Males are the weaker sex.

>>4521244

>>4521059
Many women naturally have short legs. Which is why heels are pretty common, it gives an illusion of longer legs.

BBW's are hot tho

>>4521275
The most based man on the planet?

>>4521271
Literally this. They get controlled so easily by females too, hence male inferiority. The only time the opposite happens is due to physical strength differences. Women can effortlessly trick men and drive them crazy too. Women are not only smarter than men but they also possess more positive qualities. Only manlet incels get mad at these facts. Chad knows and looks at male weaklings with pity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlETXxmso3Q

Just imagine a world in which women are physically stronger than men. Women would always be in positions of power, babies would be born in artificial wombs and not conditioned by society to avoid pursuing STEM education. There would be no wars, only peace and comfyness. Just imagine beautiful eco-friendly Coruscant-like green futuristic cities all over the globe with cars flying and humans flying like Peter Pan using small electric jetpacks. We'd have terraformed Mars already and formed intergalactic alliances with more advanced genderless aliens...

Just imagine a world in which women are physically stronger than men. Women would always be in positions of power, babies would be born in artificial wombs and women not conditioned by society to avoid pursuing STEM education. There would be no wars, only peace and comfyness. Just imagine beautiful eco-friendly Coruscant-like green futuristic cities all over the globe with cars flying and humans flying like Peter Pan using small electric jetpacks. We'd have terraformed Mars already and formed intergalactic alliances with more advanced genderless aliens...

>>4521271
None of those are bad things, Violence is a lost virtue and dying early is incredibly based.

>>4521059
the ideal female is boring, its all curves and soft shapes, always the same proportions, not visually interesting even if my dick likes it, the ideal men has muscles and visible structure, and even then they vary in proportions wildly

>>4521358
We'd probably even end up being all genetically engineered 10/10 topmodel-looking women partaking in lesbian orgies all day and using fap-machines for unlimited fun (female orgasms are more intense and last longer), we'd just farm a couple thousand limbless, blind, deaf and mute men for sperm, hell, men will probably be genetically modified so they just become fruits whose liquid is sperm.

>>4521368

>>4521403
Seek help incel.

>>4521271
>>4521324

>>4521059
>instagram
Because they will call you an incel for having good taste
That whole site is nothing but queers and other sorts of faggots

>>4521438
t. actual (butthurt) incel

>>4521439
>le IQ meme
brainlet

>>4521085
This is propaganda fed to you over the years and now you spout it. Fat was never healthy or considered attractive.

>>4521459
prove it

>>4521447
How's this then

>>4521459
Cant you read? is "plump" fat to you?

>>4521059
Because fat dudes rarely sign up to model? In my classes in college - and I took more life drawing than the degree required because I liked it, we got every body shape with females, but only got young body builder type males, or old dudes. But we got some very attractive females - the best model I ever worked with was a small Japanese girl who had an incredible body, and busted out Michelangelo poses effortlessly. She was really into the whole thing. We also got a couple beach bunny types (went to college in SoCal) who were pretty fucking hot. And a bunch of fatties and grandmas and everything in between. It depends on the teacher, the agencies/union models they hire, and who's available in the local market. One of my teachers avoided fatties, because he wanted us focused on muscle groups. Another wanted fatties, because she wanted us focused on contour.
A real artist doesn't care, because it's not about "hot", it's interesting shapes to draw, and you can find something interesting on any body, with the right mindset. I never sat there and went "ugh, a fat woman" or "ugh, old man balls", I just challenged myself to get good drawings.

Art is a reflection of the sexual market anon. You can still get a ton of attention being an ugly female. Of you are a man, you need to be based, otherwise you become invisible at best and a potential sexual predator at worst

>>4521555
>Art is a reflection of the sexual market anon.

fuck you you have horrible taste
the most beautiful thing in the world is a big fat women with a hairy cunny spreading her gigantic thighs

>>4521447
>"Women are superior to men"
>Shows proof against claim
>"That doesn't count!"
Classic.

>>4521614
ew

>>4521620
>b-but le IQ meme!
yawn

>4521324
>4521358
a woman or a tranny wrote this.
be a man and ignore them.

>>4521661
t. manlet

>>4521358
>>4521438
>>4521447
>>4521627
So basically anon has a femdom fetish and thinks his fetish should be universal.
What's separating you guys from furries? I don't understand how furries get scorned and yet, femdomies get a pass, despite basing their entire lives and identities around one fetish.
Femdomies are the worst.

>>4521681
Women own you. Know your place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymMOs4tAVKY

>>4521697
I just blew a massive load.

>>4521697
Femdomies are trash.

>>4521059
Weird, I never get these kinds of guys when I go to figure drawing classes.

>why only ugly female bodies
Because women bodies are ugly to begin with. Trying to bring in what is considered a 'beautiful woman' and the empty eggbaskets will shriek and make pedophilla accusations.

because female bodies are fucking boring to look at.

form follows function. female bodies have no function, therefore have no aesthetic forms.

>>4521104
the male form > the female form
Female bodies are 99% just coombait. Everything about them goes back to sex. The male form can have way more going on and represent much more.

>>4523108
>everything about them goes back to sex
Because you've got a brain powered by coom.

>>4521109
>Do the flowers tickle your bum, m'lady?
>no, I"m pooping flowers, shitlord
>sploot
>ahhh that first sip of the day
>dang cooter itch..
>Splurt
>Ahhhh!

>>4523108
>virgin detected
Try actually talking to girls instead of hiding in the corner of your class. Have fun

>>4521059
The bottom two women seem fine. I'm sure you're just cherry picking

>>4521697
Stop forcing your disgusting fetish on us, faggot.

Can you retards get back to drawing? This isn't getting you gains.

>>4521292
Is this one of Brian's models?

>>4523128
Disgusting, is this how gays are made?

>>4523480
>Try actually talking to girls instead of hiding in the corner of your class. Have fun

>>4521059
Women are just ugly. That's why we go out of our way and bend over backwards for the few who aren't.

>>4521090
I like dudes but even that image made me consider going the other way.

>>4521059
>on a popular instagram page
That's just on one instagram page. Maybe the people behind it don't want to promote drawings of fat or skinny males, who knows?

When I was in art school, we had models with very different body shapes.
When you draw, you have to rely on what you're seeing, not what you can copy from a canon.

>>4521214
This is fucking epic. Grats to the artist.

>>4521059
is called taste, you retard

John Collier (manual on oil painting, 1889)

Dude one of those is literally an ecorche

>>4521059
the best figure artists are gay shut ins.

>>4521085
Wrong

>>4521459
True.

Is not that they were considered beautiful. It was that those fat bitches were the only ones who could actually commission an expensive ass portrait. Traditional beauty is the equivalent of our modern THICK meme. But never fat.

>>4521271
with bitches like you im glad im gone off this planet faster than you.

>>4525654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSAicn4wyxI

>>4521059
ummm sweatie thats how real women look like maybe if you left your basement once you would know this :^)

>>4525657
Who's the old bag?

>>4521059
I've been to many life figure drawing sessions and we had females 99% of the time and most of them were not bad looking, never had fat ones, sometimes a little older but a slim older woman can still look pretty attractive.
Anyway, I hope this lockdown ends soon cause I really want to go again.

>>4526434
She's an angel.

>>4521059
because the person who owns this instagram account is a virgin and is trying desperately to show that he loves all types of female bodies
i only draw super slim women because drawing anything else would be an insult to my APPLE IPAD PRO WITH MY APPLE PENCIL AND 5 YEAR WARRANTY ONLY AVAILABLE AT THE APPLE STORE OR ON THE APPLE WEBSITE.

>>4526951
show us the super slim women that you draw

>>4526973
she’s a bit bigger than i’d like though but this is the best i could find
i usually go to live drawing session

>>4526986
Loomis I presume?

>>4526996
the one and only

>>4521697
Femdomfags deserve to be shot.

>>4527008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n6mANDLif8

>>4521059
Because pretty women are taboo in the west
this is why anime is right now where art is flourishing.

>>4521109
it's funny you post an artwork with those beatiful female statues in the background

>>4527060
Stop posting your beta-male fetish shit faggot. Women can be easily beaten/killed by teenage boys, so fuck off with that 'female superiority' bullshit.

>>4525518
fuck that dead nigga I'll draw all the slampigs I want

>>4527093
>b-but men are physically stronger!!!!

>>4521614
>women
>cunny

>>4527153
are you a big guy?

>>4527171
This can't be real.

>>4527173
Yeah it's fake, haha, here's the real version.

>>4527176
No way...

>>4527176
But how?

>>4527139
Yes. So femdom makes no sense retard. Go be a betafag somewhere else.

>>4527186
Muscles is not the only way you can have control and dominate others you absolute meathead.

>>4527184
Animals love dancing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHVvSX3pzDg

>>4527196
Only retarded beta-males let women 'control' them.

Women have the minds of children and no real societal power beyond 'muh vagina'. So being 'controlled' by one shows you're a failure of a man.

>>4527300
I love making insecure weaklings like you feel upset, it's so easy lol.

>>4527345
>can’t argue against the truth
>y-you mad!!
Ok roastie, you’ve had your (you) now go find some beta orbiters to make you feel better about yourself.

>>4527300
>>4527345
Both of you shut up and go back to your /r9k/ containment board.

>>4521059
I think there is more wiggle room for women as far as sexual attractiveness. It is the feminists saying that men put high expectations on women, when in reality men find many types of women attractive after the age of 20. Everyone else who likes only one type of woman is probably 13 or something. Maybe a man won't want a long term relationship, but as long as the woman isn't too obese and saggy, almost every girl can have something desirable about her.

Women on the other hand have a very narrow idea of what is attractive on a male. If you don't have a good body, good jaw line, tall then you better have a good salary.

Because traditionally women had to hide their female characteristics and having ugly bodies favoured that. Vanity is a sin, you know. The male part though is inspired by greco-roman models of beauty and aesthetics. In this case the men all had small penises because that's what was considered elegant.

>>4521089
Gay dudes do this because most of them HATE women, so if you see some drunk chick dancing sloppy and a bunch of gay dudes are cheering for her and clapping, they are trying to get her to drink more, make mistakes and ruin her own life.

>>4528012
>because most of them HATE women
Nothing wrong with that.
Misogyny is pretty based.

>>4528023
This.
Gay MGTOWs will unironically rule the world once the artificial uterus and stem cell reproduction are invented.

I don't know if this is the case for op example but men are generally a lot easier to get nude models for life drawing.
You can pick and choose muscular men to get clear surface anatomy.
Women are much rarer unless you live in somewhere with lots of failed actresses/fashion models like california/new york/london. So you just take what you can get.

>>4521464
>money is a measure of intelligence
cringe.

>>4523108
Goldpilled as fuck.

>>4521547
>Fat dudes rarely sign up to model
Can confirm too, never once saw a younger fat dude model, usually fat chicks, which were a plenty, or rarely, in shape dudes. Actually got sick of looking at fat chicks, because it was getting same hat, only once a in shape chick, average, but it's a better change of pace than huge all the time.

>>4523587
ok

>>4525518
based

>>4521594

holy shit who dat

>>4527700
>Women on the other hand have a very narrow idea of what is attractive on a male. If you don't have a good body, good jaw line, tall then you better have a good salary.
You are totally right, it is impossible to find any romance anime/manga with a cute twink instead of the prince type while in romance/ecchi manga for men you find any kind of body and personality type.

>>4521059
To show artistic skill. A ripped dude with bulging muscles have a lot of details you can draw, the beauty standart for female body is usualy lean and with little mucle definition, if you want to put more texture, shading or whatever on a woman the easiest ways are givving her a small gut and shaggy tits.

>>4521090
I'm straight, but this is a fact

>>4528864
press x for doubt

>>4521358
>stronger then men
the fun of femdom is to be dommed by someone weaker then you 100% by your consent. If you wanted to you could smash her easily but you choose to be super serviant. Thats what makes it hot, the fact that you both know its a farce.

If you were gettign dommed by someone who holds much more power then you then its not fun

>>4530644
It's good that at least some femdomfags acknowledge that women are weaker and make no sense as 'doms' without the male letting it happen on purpose. I still don't get the appeal of submitting to something weaker on purpose, but I appreciate the honesty.

>>4521077
holy shit this bait is good

>>4521104
A bull is prettier than a cat.

>>4521271
>die before becoming a burden on society
>this is somehow considered a bad thing

>>4528560
How you get your money is.

>>4521697
Fuck off simp

>>4530934
Women are a burden on society since birth

>>4521697
Hey retard, even if you were right that females are "superior" how do you explain that females being submissive to males is the norm and has always been?
Also, a lot of females like to be punched, choked and violently fucked so even they know that they are not to dominate anyone, they wouldn't even like it.

>>4531341
Women exist in a submissive position society because men utilise their regressive brute strength to dominate them, because they're incapable of utilising their brains for the task. Violence is woven into ever fibre of your muscle, and what men cannot break, they brutalise.

If only you'd submit to the superiority of feminine sexuality then you'd know true bliss. The natural position of a man is either inside or under the pure flesh of a woman, such as it is since conception. All men ultimately desire to return back to woman, the great giver.

Until you repent you will find no Nirvana here on earth, you ape.

>>4523128
>lady on the far right
THICC

>>4531389
Yeah, this, pretty much.

>>4521059
that fat bitch has a two MILK STACKS. i'm finna boost

>>4531389
Men have been responsible for the majority of life-changing inventions and scientific breakthroughs. And look up the Dutch version of Survivor (Expeditie Robinson) where men and women were divided into two islands. The men formed huts and hunted food in a few days, while women were still fighting amongst each other for weeks (never making their own huts).
Here's a video on it:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnNJpwf4m7s

Men are risk takers and need to be physically strong to survive. Women don't last long when they try to lead survival situations, which is why there have been virtually no matriarchal civilizations.
You also ignored the fact that 99% of women love sexual fetishes like rape and abuse, so being submissive is ingrained in them.

“If civilization had been left in female hands, we would still be living in grass huts.” - Camille Paglia

>>4532157
Country with #1 HDI in the world? Norway. Prime Minister? Woman. President of the Storting? Woman. Chief Justice? Woman. Country with #2 HDI in the world? Switzerland. President? Woman. Checkmate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBM1wzjOEHM

>>4532218
Those women are using the political structure built by men to ride off success they didn't earn. 1st world countries and the greatest empires were founded by men, not women.

Fuck off with your femdomfaggotry videos. That bitch would probably love to be violently raped.

>>4532235
>founded by men
If you look into it you'll realise that it really all comes down to physical strength (labour, warring, etc.) which is how power is obtained, maintained and increased. Women can perfectly be in control of empires and kingdoms, if you knew anything about history you would know that and if given the exact same opportunities as men when it comes to education and the arts, they, too, will produce succesful outliers as men have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CveIQAp0nU

>>4532235
>founded by men
If you look into it you'll realise that it really all comes down to physical strength (labour, warring, etc.) which is how power is obtained, maintained and increased. Women can perfectly be in control of empires and kingdoms, if you knew anything about history you would know that and if given the exact same opportunities as men when it comes to education and the arts, they, too, will produce many successful outliers as men have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CveIQAp0nU

>>4532257
In the most egalitarian countries on the planet (Scandinavian countries), women choose non-STEM degrees much higher than men.
Point being. Woman can't start shit and need men's help for pretty much everything. They aren't as 'smart' as you think they are.

Also the EU is shit, so much for 'muh seccessful wimmin leaders'.

Gonna commission an artist to draw that cunt you posting as a sex slave just to piss you femdomfags off. Lmao

>>4532262
>women choose non-STEM degrees much higher than men
There is a reason for this and it's not "cuz there dum xD".
>Woman can't start shit and need men's help for pretty much everything.
All women need is meatheads with big muscles to use as pawns.

https://listverse.com/2008/10/02/top-10-most-powerful-women-in-history/
Also Isabella I of Castile, Empress Suiko, Princess Olga of Kiev, Zenobia, Cleopatra, Borte Ujin, Joan of Arc, Lakshmibai, Indira Gandhi, Margaret Thatcher, etc.

Quality of life keeps increasing and gender equality is unstoppable.

Keep crying, little boy.

>>4521059
In my art class the only men who do nude are ugly old fucks who don't give a fuck anymore. Most girls and women are much more open about it.

>>4531389
If they cant take control by themselves, they cant be superior in any way.
Stop thinking with your penis for a second and look at the real world.

>>4532262
Cringe, proof that men are inferior and resort to violence when they get slightly challenged.
>>4532275
Based.

>>4532808
If such thing as physical force is enough to defeat women, they are not superior in any way at all.
"heheheh al men hav iz fizical phorce!!!!" yet I don't see women doing something that can beat it.

>>4532817
See >>4527196

I also bet you're either a scrawny weakling or some chubby manlet, silly little "man" (boy).

>I don't see women doing something that can beat it.
They beat it everyday, with their looks, their manipulation, their tricks, etc.

>>4532880
Lol, keep coping cuck
That you're retarded enough to fall for females' shit doesn't mean that the rest of the world does, retard.

>>4532901
See >>4527345

Keep sprinkling your posts with "lol" or "lmao" all you want but we both know you're a frustrated weakling who's angry at women because you're either a manlet or (most probably and) a dicklet, thus a risible creature to them who cannot take you seriously, and by consequence impotent thereby in no position to be dominating them or considering yourself to be above them. Enjoy your cute "we men are superior!" ("we", hah) fantasy though, sweetie.

>>4531406
you have caused me to fall farther from god's light

>>4532218
What is HDI?

>>4532982
Human Development Index

>>4532986

>>4521358
This post made me realize that women are the nigger of the genders kek
>if slavery didn't happen africa would be numba one
>if women weren't weakling we would be numba one
Yep, keep dreaming sister
Meanwhile Fields medals are 50 for men, one for woman

>>4533016
Imagine falling for such obvious bait yet thinking you're the smart one

>>4533016
Where's your medal, little boy?

See >>4532259
>if given the exact same opportunities as men when it comes to education and the arts, they, too, will produce many successful outliers as men have

worst thread on /ic/ right now

pornography was a mistake

Marmalad, get back to drawing porn.

>>4532275
>>4532808
>>4532880
>>4532958
>>4532993
>>4533030
Women and simps were a mistake.

I can't wait until the artificial uterus and stem cell reproduction are a thing so we can finally move on from the nigger gender.

>>4533094
>*eyes water* "I-I can't w-wait until the a-artificial uterus a-and..."*lips quiver*
You actually believe we will allow manchildren like you to have children? Keep waiting, little boy.
>we
Men will never stop desiring women. Impotent weaklings like you won't stop either, except you losers will have to resort to sex dolls.

>>4533094
>*eyes water* "I-I can't w-wait until the a-artificial uterus a-and..." *lips quiver*
You actually believe we will allow manchildren like you to have children? Keep waiting, little boy.
>we
Men will never stop desiring women. Impotent weaklings like you won't stop either, except you losers will have to resort to sex dolls.

>>4533112
>doubling down on the autistic fetish RP
I'll probably stop replying after this so you stop fapping to my replies, creep.

>we
>implying you're a "femanon" with government power
Ok, now I know you're baiting. Either way, your retarded fantasy of "controlling" men won't happen. Men aren't retarded enough to let women 'control' them no matter how much you want it to be true.

>men will never stop desiring women
Sure, they'll just use women as cum-dumps once they're no longer needed for reproduction. They'll be good for nothing else but a quick fuck.

>implying sex dolls are for 'losers'
You sound like a bitter femoid who's threatened that she'll be replaced by robots. Have fun with the cats once you've hit the wall and men don't want to fuck you anymore.
So much for that 'power' over men, huh?

>>4533112
>t. tranny

>>4533112
go back to /d/

>>4533123
The shitposter is right, you definitely are retarded.
Just for a different reason though.
>still taking the bait

>>4533123
>I'll probably stop replying
Your dicklette (girlcock) might as well be a pussy.
>Men aren't retarded enough to let women 'control' them
What world do you live in?
>they'll just use women as cum-dumps
Only Chad has this option but at least you said "they", I'm glad you've understood that women won't let you touch them with your dirty long incel nails.
>noooo!!! sex dolls a-are not f-for losers!!!
*rolls eyes* They are, sweetie.
>the wall
Stale meme. Spoiler: dicklet manlet weaklings like you can't "age like wine"

>>4533126
Pic related.

>>4533132
>implying being gay is bad
lol You don't like it because they're not interested in "women" like you.

>y-you just want to fuck women!!!
Nah. But keep projecting.

>>4533150
>lol
>u-ur a tranny!
cope, little boy

>>4533154
Post 'tits' or GTFO, tranny

It sure is fun watching two retards argue with one another.

>>4533159
>two

>>4533156
After you post your girlcock so I can have a giggle.

>>4532958
If I laugh about the things you're saying it's because they're funny
Btw I could beat 99.9% of women in a fist fight and there's nothing you can do about it

>>4533161
/ic/ would become a better board if we immediately banned all /r9k/ crossposters.

>>4533162
>tranny projecting its "girlcock" onto others

>>4533165
based

>>4533162

>>4533165
See >>4527139

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYG3KIN9CYs

>>4533174
?

>>4533175
Yet it's mostly men who occupy high-intellect jobs in sciences/engineering/tech, even in egalitarian first-world countries.
If women can't outsmart "dumb and strong" men, then they have no real power.

>>4533178
It's (you).

>>4533175
Still nothing you can do about it.

>>4533185
See>>4532275
>There is a reason for this and it's not "cuz there dum xD".

No clue who "marmalade mum" is desu but whatever helps you cope I guess.

>>4533187
No one cares about how stronger than a woman you are and if you tried to brutalise a woman in public you'd get jumped by every man in the vicinity.
>women reject me so I want to hurt them
>m-muh field medals btw
Nice brain, little Elliot.

>>4533208
>women reject me so I want to hurt them
>m-muh field medals btw
When did I say that?

The sad thing about this is that whoever is saying that women are superior isnt even a woman, but some dude trying to get a crumb of coochie by defending them :C

>>4533208
>doesn't explain reason why
Nice intelligence there.

>keeps projecting "muh MGTOW sex doll"
Whatever helps you cope I guess.

Notice how women need "muh men" to help them, not gonna help them much if they get the shit beat out of them in private. So much for "female independence" :^)

>>4533214
I think it's just a shitposter, but if he's serious, then I hope he goes full beta and just castrates himself.

>>4533215
>I need to be spoonfed
Cringe.
>Whatever helps you cope I guess.
I'm not a dicklet-manlet so I don't have to cope, checkmate little boy.
>women need "muh men" to help them
No, just meatheads with big muscles as I've explained earlier: >>4532275

>>4532218
Norways minister of health? Woman.

>>4533223
Thanks for proving that women cant do anything themselves!

>>4533223
>spoonfed
So you can't explain why women don't get STEM degrees. Very compelling argument there.

>meatheads with big muscles
So if they didn't exist, then women can't do shit. Got it.
Very "superior" gender there.

>>4533225
lol
This is why I'm starting to think this dude is shitposting.

>>4533215
>they get the shit beat out of them in private
Cute, but then you get raped in court. *wink*

>>4533229
>if they didn't exist, then women can't do shit
It's just that without men there would be no bloody wars killing millions, so yeah, women need some men to be used against other men.

>>4533236
Your ruse gave me a giggle, ngl

>>4533236
Cute, but then you get raped in court. *wink*
Proving once again that women depend on everyone but themselves

>>4533243
>depend
It's about non-violent domination, I wouldn't expect a meathead to understand.

>>4533249
It's not true domination if you're useless without your 'sub'.
Also doesn't help that male 'subs' let it happen on purpose. No "trickery" by women here, just "muh vagina".

Probably why gay men are seen as "threats" by femoids.

>>4533252
>noooo!!!! it doesn't count!!!!
cope

>>4533253
>can't form a counter argument
More brilliant intellect on display.

Now tell me how much "power" ugly, undesirable women have in society.

>>4533253
How is it cope? Its as true as it gets
Also
Why do you defend women so much if you are not even one of them

>>4533254
I've said what I had to say: >>4533249
The response was simply desperate denial. All there is for me to do is point and laugh.
>ugly, undesirable women
There's always plenty of fish in the sea for women, I can't say the same for "men" like you.

>>4533260
>you wouldn't understand
>it's true domination because I say so
>uses cartoony stock images
>bullshit claims get more ridiculous
Ok. I've had my laugh. You had me, but I'll concede to your shitposting.
See you on /r9k/ my brother.

>>4533223
>>4533208
>Cleopatra
Except Cleopatra's genetic line ended with her death, thus handing her country over to be repeatedly cucked the Romans.

>Joan of Arc

Smattering of military conquests undone, with the Rnglish turning the tide once again with the aid of French collaborators. They led several stunning victories, winning the Hundred Years War decisively in their favor.

>Isabella I of Castile

Debatable. Most of her policies would not fly with modern feminists (she and her husband completed the Reconquista expelling the Jews and Muslims from Western Europe). Ferdinand II, as King of Spaim, wielded much of the authority in building the Spanish Empire, including Columbus' expeditions.

>Margaret Thatcher

Based.

>Empress Suiko

Expanded Buddhism and cuucked during the Imna-Sinna wars. Beyond those, she really didn't accomplish shit.

>Princess Olga
Based. Killed an entire people over the death of her husband and spread Christianity.

Have to go over the rest.

>>4533267
>it's true domination because I say so
Not because I say so.
>uses cartoony stock images
Sorry for not posting Pepes, manchild.
>bullshit claims
Such as?
>I-I've had my laugh! *sniffs*
*rolls eyes* Whatever, little boy.

>>4533260
What do you have to say about
>>4533256
>>4533214

>>4533274
lol. You'll have your real fun once the other anons rip you a new one.
Have fun my dude :^)

>>4533275
Post your work and I'll tell you, sweetie.

>>4533278
see this image >>4533154

>>4533281
:^)

>>4521324
This is your mind on porn.

>>4533279
How about
>>4521439

>>4533285
How about 7 persons being in a room, 5 manlets and 2 dicklets. If you pick a group of 4 at random, what is the probability that everyone in the group is a manlet? How bout dah, Mr. IQ?

>>4533305
lol

>>4533305
Mad.

>>4533333>>4533317

>>4533321
lol

>>4533317
>muh STEM
>muh IQ stats
>can't answer a simple math question
Why are incels such silly impostors?

>>4533333
checked

"men" BTFO

>>4533333
lol

>>4533333
Different Incel IQ stats STEM here. Are we supposed to assume a person can't be both a manlet and a dicklet at the same time?

What level of bait is this?

>>4533342
>assume
Only one characteristic has been explicitly attributed to each of the 7 "men", so what do you think? If I said 5 girls are blondes, 2 are redheads, would you assume there's a blonde who dyed her hair red among them?

>>4533366
Yes. Women false advertise all the time.

>>4533343
Incels falling for an obvious shitposter

>>4533366
No because I would consider a girl who is naturally blonde but died her hair red a redhead but the same logic does not apply to the other problem as being a dicklet and manlet are not mutually exclusive. Furthermore even if blonde and redhead weren't mutually exclusive characteristics I wouldn't assume there's a blonde who died her hair red because making such an assumption does not make sense. I would ask you to disambiguate as I am doing now otherwise the problem would accept multiple solutions and it would be tiresome to list all of them.

>>4533374
Women don't lie as much as men concerning their attributes, but whatever. The question was for the other incel and he ran away.

>>4533380
The 5 manlets are not dicklets. The 2 dicklets are not manlets. Now answer the question: >>4533305

"Incel!!!!!!"
Why do people use words that they dont know what they mean?

>>4533382
>Women don't lie as much as men concerning their attributes
Citation needed.

>>4533343
Infinity

>>4533386
https://nypost.com/2019/02/07/men-who-care-what-others-think-claim-to-have-penises-this-big/
https://www.elitedaily.com/dating/sex/men-lie-about-penis-size/1814199
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2398502/when-it-comes-to-penis-size-men-almost-always-lie-about-how-big-their-manhood-really-is/
https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-men-lie-about-their-height-1377912812
https://www.menshealth.com/trending-news/a19541675/all-guys-lie-about-height/
https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/08/when-men-lie-about-their-height-and-more-advice-from-dear-prudence.html
https://www.futurity.org/masculinity-height-965252/

Now tell me, what do women lie about concerning their physical attributes? Their weight? To whom? Other women? Whoopty doo! Most will just diet, exercice, join myproana or whatever and achieve their goal weight. What about "men"? Wear shoe lifts? Jelq? Overcompensate for their lack of masculinity via aggression and mysogyny? Sad!

>>4533411
They lie to men about their weight so they'll be seen as fuckable.
>doesn't know about the fat acceptance movement

>>4533411
Fake news.

>>4533415
Men never ask women how much they weigh (big no-no), they judge by appearance. It's women who talk about weight numbers and BMI among themselves.
>fat acceptance movement
An american phenomenom. Over half of the US is fat so such coping movements are to be expected. Not a global "female thing", unlike men and penis size/height. Try again.

>>4533425
Cope.

>>4533451
Men in middle eastern and African countries don't have to worry about penis size/height because women don't get a say. It's only in gynocentric American/Eurofag countries where that petty shit happens.
And height isn't to impress women either, but to get jobs.

>>4533451
>what is the makeup industry

>>4532993
>>4533030
>they are still erect
and that's how you know it's a fetish, not a social commentary

>>4533451
Seethe

>>4533249
Could women "dominate" a society of gay men? No.

>>4533458
>because women don't get a say
They also have the least gender equality which is apparent by their HDI so...ya...awkward...
>height isn't to impress women
COPE
O
P
E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR3YR1ZTonc

>>4533462
For women makeup is like clothing, it's just style, little to do with insecurity and "the wall" meme as they begin taking an interest in it while they're still children, find it fun, etc. and it's always been this way since prehistory. Look at the fashion industry and those models with perfect faces, yeah, they still wear makeup because it makes them look more stylish. You could cherrypick a few shocking "before and after" examples but most beautiful women with makeup are still beautiful without it and ugly ones are ugly even with it.

>>4533481
How do you respond to
>>4532157

>muh HDI
>muh gender equality
Genders aren't equal.
And the Middle East is wealthy as fuck thanks to oil, no thanks to women.

>>4533382
1/6

>>4533483
>Genders aren't equal.
Both are capable of accomplishments benefiting society as a whole so they should equally be given possibilities and encouragements to flourish and be happy, regardless of morphological and emotional differences (one is not "superior" to the other, just different in their own unique ways). Balance is essential.
>thanks to oil
Yup.
>no thanks to women
And? Their societies are less than mediocre all things considered (severe repression, little freedom, everything is taboo, etc. etc.) but hey look at their artificial cities with big architectural projects! The society must be so evolved! Yeah no, gender equality is still non-existent so it's all smoke and mirrors.

>>4533507
yikes

>>4533508
>avoided the island study
>avoided the male inventions/breakthroughs
Like clockwork.

If all women disappeared after the scientific invention of external reproduction, society would carry on as normal.
If the same was true, but all men disappeared instead, society would quickly fall to shit.

Women just can't accomplish shit on their own. Needing 'subs' to survive makes women pathetic excuses for 'doms'.

To requote:

“If civilization had been left in female hands, we would still be living in grass huts.” - Camille Paglia

>>4533481
>i-it's just style!
Lmao nice cope, tranny
Literally the only reason femoids use makeup is to bump up their natural physical looks to be more desirable for Chad

>>4533520
you know what you’re exactly right. I think you should set an example for the rest of us and continue to live a superior wifeless, childless existence and build your sexy island man utopia with no pesky whores to fuck your epic rocket science up. I am a weak beta male however and will continue to suck on my wife’s tits and make money and have more kids like a cuck.

>>4533535
Glad we could reach an agreement.

>>4533520
>island study
Men are quick to build huts and hunt? Cool but it still comes down to physical strength so I don't see how it's relevant.
>male inventions/breakthroughs
Outliers are responsible for these, not "men". You will be seeing more and more women in the future now that things have improved. There's a reason why Da Vinci, Michelangelo et al. are all men. Women can't draw? Please. Pretty much none back then did, that's it.
>if half of society disappeared, society would fall to shit
Shocking (you're an imbecile).

>>4533528
Nice reading comprehension:
>>4533481
>You could cherrypick a few shocking "before and after" examples but most beautiful women with makeup are still beautiful without it and ugly ones are ugly even with it.
I never even see women wearing as much makeup as that one. That would look super trashy and turn heads (in a negative way) where I live.

>>4533536
>Glad we could reach an agreement.

>>4533538
You have on odd definition of 'improvement' if you see the way western civilization is getting chucked by niggers and muslims thanks to women.

>poor reading compension
I said if half of women disappeared, retard. Society would be perfectly fine without them once they're no longer needed for reproduction.

>>4533539
(you)

>>4533516
What's the answer then?

>>4533540
as a homosexual I agree that my ideal society has no women and just a bunch of sweaty ripped genius men building huts together and fucking onaholes to reproduce and also each other haha wouldn’t that be weird

>>4533508
>mediocre because uuuh i don´t like it, it has to fill MY and my dying race desires!
>so it's all smoke and mirrors because they dont have gender equality
lmao
>severe repression
Metoo, fuck your tranny friend or you are hitler
>everything is taboo
Most of those things can lead to the extermination of their society, they are slowly conquering Europe; Africa and the US would belong to them but the "arab springs" cull their numbers. Some things made to women are extreme but maybe it works, maybe that´s why they keep winning.
And they showed that they can keep doing it for thousands of years, so there´s no need of equality.

It´s not about our point of views, their method works and their method leads to survival and conquering of other "genus, species or subspecies"
>but muh muh
IT doesn´t matter it works

>>4531389
you desire a world of swirling flesh and cum, women in control? nothing would happen and everyone would die, womens pride blocks them too much from achieving anything beyond their own zone of comfort, and connection with other people becomes impossible once they realize they have a single quality even the most desperate of rats will look for... not very angelic or blissful, just disgusting and sad

>>4533540
>I said if half of women disappeared, retard.
You don't even know what you're saying anymore. Stop embarrassing yourself already and go hump your loli doll or something, incel.
>men will be perfectly fine without women
You're so out of touch with reality it's amusing. I guess it's to be expected from a low value man(child) shut-in like yourself with a very hateful, impulsive and unpleasant personality as made obvious by your posts. Without women beta males like you would have their assholes ruined.

>>4533547
1/7

>>4533558
Close 'nough

this be how yall niggas fight be lookin like fr

I came into this thread yesterday and bumped it with obvious anti-male LARP bait just for funsies and I can't believe what this has devolved into.

I don't want to say all men are idiots because obviously there's a significant portion of the board just ignoring this thread and just fucking drawing like they should be doing, but goddamn some of you are fucking stupid. You're swallowing the bait so fast you just ate the entire fishing rod.

>>4533567
Here's a more accurate image.

>>4533576
Low-value "men" are too sensitive. They're totally ngmi, sad but true.

>>4533567
Can I be the space suit doge

What the fuck is thread?

>>4533625
Frustrated incels being emasculated and forcibly castrated despite their futile yowling.

>>4533625
Frustrated incels being emasculated and forcibly castrated despite their yowling.

Interesting thread. I'm inclined to agree that women make for good fat study, and men for good muscle study. The 'ideal' female is indeed boring to draw over and over.
That being said, there should be more variety in the art showcased by that page, that involves the male physique. Wild shot in the dark, but maybe it's ran by a lesbian?

Oh. And this entire thread is a shitter. Don't bother with men with a fetish for roleplaying women on the Internet. Complete waste of time.

Interesting thread. I'm inclined to agree that women make for good fat study, and men for good muscle study. The 'ideal' female is indeed boring to draw over and over.
That being said, there should be more variety in the art showcased by that page, that involves the male physique. Wild shot in the dark, but maybe it's ran by a lesbian?

Oh. And this entire thread is a shitter. Don't bother with men with a fetish for roleplaying women on the Internet. Complete waste of time.

>>4533642
>The 'ideal' female is indeed boring to draw over and over.
Subjective opinion and you don't have to limit yourself to simple studies.

>>4521059
What was the instagram? This shit looks like neat study material.

>>4533625
Hell

>>4533649
Somebody is probably masturbating over this thread's posts

>>4533655
I didn't follow it so I forgot. Just search "academic sketches/drawings", you'll find a couple.

>>4533666
aw dang, well thanks for the tip anyway, satan

>>4533670
Wait I think I found it in my history, it's probably @academic_drawing_school

>>4533582
Pyw or ngmi

>>4533673
thanks, OP, and sorry your thread went to shit.

>>4532157
There were a couple of female pharaohs early on in ancient egypt's history. Kush also had a few queens that didn't only lead, but also waged war and served as generals.

Overall it's rare, but matriarchal societies have existed and might've been more popular early on in humanity's history. It kinda makes sense for a woman to be a leader in certain societies, certainly in prehistory when males were just cannon fodder.

>>4533782
I've been posting this whole time though and it's been very fun for me.

>>4533782
I've had a lot of fun in it though...

>>4533782
Lets just hope it doesnt happen again

Male models are rare to come by, it will be mostly metrosexual men who enjoy exercising to some degree and thus become more "exhibitionist".

Female models are just insecure females trying to get some body acceptance or other bullshit like that, overcoming their own disgust at themselves.

Beautiful females don't need to go around doing small gigs like this, they can be Instagram """""models"""""" instead or put their vaginas behind a paywall.

All that said, when I do random nude studies taken from the Internet most males are not as muscular and most females are more average/pretty than that (sorta like that last picture and upwards).
So the person who made this collage is definitely biased and probably just seethes at the vision of a beautiful female that isn't her.

>>4534249
ya sure about male models being rare? i've only been to a few life drawing classes and i've seen male models with a bit of variety, like old, average and athletic, although i didn't catch a fat dude though

>>4521244
They're a faggot.

>>4534249
you’re always trying so hard to make generalizations but they’re never on the mark

>>4534870
You know that anon personally?

>>4534894
No, I'm just generalizing this kind of anon.

>>4534670
Not them but in my experience male models do seem to be rarer, but I keep putting it down to them been worried about getting a stiffy which is fair.

My partner's got an artist's dream body, muscular with a perfect fat % ratio. I use him as a reference all the time and I am trying to convince him to start life modelling. He's all down for it, not shy about stripping at all, but the only thing holding him back is the idea of him getting an erection. I wonder how men cope with that actually.

>>4535019
One time at a life drawing session, we had a male model that got a boner in the middle of a long pose. Nobody really cared and the dude also didn't seem that bothered by it. Others might be more shy about it, but overall I think most people would be understanding (especially other guys).

>>4533582
Unironically based bait. Incels belive they could live without women but when they don't get female attention they go on killing sprees or kill themselves, trully pathetic.

>>4535226
Gay MGTOWs will rule the world.

>>4535232
Gays can't go five seconds without cat fighting

>>4535232
All gay men are mgtow because they're gay, retard.

>>4521059
Because femoids are inherently inferior, and thus this is represented in Art. Art imitates life, after all.

>>4535226
Without women at all (ex.: prison), these same betas get anally ravaged.

>>4535239
Based.

>>4530937
Low earning whites are smarter than high earning blacks.

>>4535265
Why are brainlets so obsessed with the IQ meme?

>>4533567

When will this god-awful thread die already?

>>4535276
It's the thread of the month.

>>4528552
I dont know where you are from, but where i live, the overwhelming majority of the nude models are women. The only male models i ever had, was one skinny young guy with practically no muscles and a grandpa who looked like a hobo.

>>4521059
in practical terms drawing different variations of the human body is good practice. no one looks the same and its important to understand the variety of shapes that the human body produces.

but considering only females are allowed to look ugly and males must be artistic adonises, the actual answer is that Western women are trying to justify their food addiction and why they're so fat. they don't want men to be fat because that's ugly but because of female vanity they can't stand being told that their gelatinous bodies are disgusting and that they need to lose weight. that's why "health at every size" got a big kick off in the past few years too.

thing is i'm a fatty too so i understand that it's difficult to lose weight especially when you have psychological hang ups regarding food which i'm betting a lot of fatties have. but trying to "normalize" fat women doesn't make them more beautiful it just encourages more fatties.

>>4535562
>i'm a fatty too
just drink water bro

Is that cuck gone forever?

>>4535574
Let's hope so. I've never seen such dedicated retardation and tranny larping before.

>>4535574
PTSD?

>>4535575
I'm not a tranny, sweetie.

>Namio Harukawa just died
LOL
Good fucking riddance.

>>4535585
His masterpieces will live on in saecula saeculorum.

>>4535575
Hes not a tranny, just a cuck who likes to suck plastic dicks

>>4535593
True. But let's not reply to him so hopefully he'll go away.

You guys should just go draw

>>4535598
I created this thread, little boy.

>>4535599
Tell that to the shitposter cuck who baits all day and night. He's the true ngmi.

>>4535602
Post what you've drawn in the last 24h.

>>4535605
Only after the shitposter takes his own bait advice and castrates himself.

>>4535606
Is your jelqing working yet?

>>4535601
Fake news.

>>4535613
You're correct, he didn't create the thread, but he will feed off every (you) given to him like a gains goblin. Then he'll just stick around like an annoying cancer.

>>4535613
>>4535618
I'll keep sticking around in my thread, little boys. You just have to cope.

>>4535613
>>4535618
You just have to cope, little boys.

I don't know whether to be amazed or appalled at this level of shitposting.

>>4535628
thats as fake as it gets

>>4535771
?

Thank fuck this thread is reaching its bump limit.

>>4521059
Because if her body is attractive the drawing will be considered erotic and that's supposed to be bad even though everyone watches actual porn.

>>4535806
A subtle electric boogaloo is coming up, don't remove your chastity cage yet.

>>4535806
That's what I'm trying to do

>>4535809
Hopefully this will all be a distant memory in a few weeks.

>>4535812
Thank you for your service.

>>4535812
>we did it /r/MGTOW!

I love women so much.

>>4535628
Why do you hate your own gender?

>>4535825
I do?

>>4535971
It looks like it.

>>4535983
Okey dokey.

>>4535992
Little boy.

>>4536147
has the bump limit been reached?

>>4521059
You should never of created this thread because now it's attracting the wrong kinds of people, unless that was your intent

I find femdom very hot but I always control it from below and find the idea of allowing a woman any significant control over my life ludicrous. For me it is a cathartic power swap which allows me respite and perspective from the usual agency I have over my own life. modern women absolutely reprehensible and unworthy
But then a lot of men these days are pathetic

Perhaps there’s a general lowering in human quality due to environmental factors that makes both of us unworthy and detestable to the other. Were we of higher quality I believe there would be far more harmony and I would make Xena sit on my face all day

>>4523108
>The male form can have way more going on and represent much more
True, ideal male bodies aren't "sensual" in the way ideal female bodies are because muscles are tools to get shit done, this painting wouldn't have as much power if they were ideal females riding the horses

Too bad this thread didn't become a /u/ thread like the other one. At least from now on we'll get yuri threads whenever this fag posts.

>>4538316
cope

>>4538349