/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4900940
both are shit

Too much cool-aid i think while asians have green-tea, i think that's the main-difference

>>4900940
you have bad taste

>>4900940
It’s cheaper and easier

>>>/co/

>>4900940
A challenge for someone. Swap the style. Draw Taichi in the style to the left, and draw whatever that cartoon character is in the Digimon 01 style on the right.

>>4900941
Sonic the human child

>>4900940
because the artists don't have strong fundamentals so have to stick to simple flat blob characters. imagine giving Tai Kamiya's character sheet to a western animation studio, they would absolutely crumble, none of them have the skill to animate something that detailed. they'd either simplify him to a calarts blob style or go full cgi

>>4900940
simpler designs for cheap animations, also western animation tends towards "cartoony" proportions because the designers probably had that growing up, a similar thing for japanese designs, it's about whats currently around them that influences the style imo. Also Modern cartoons are being designed by Californian hipsters (or people who want to be like that) so they exagerate proportions more and more while also keeping it kinda minimalist

Also another thing is that anime characters are ment to be appealing because usually they're ment to advertise for something whether it be a manga, game or even figures of them. Cartoon characters are mostly just for the show and don't often get too much merchandice besides something like lame ass kechains or a shirt with them on it.

TDLR - Cartoon = Hipster fantasy, Anime = Coperate product, cartoons can look awful while anime can just look like a souless clone of another one

>>4901404
why are the responses getting progressively longer

>>4901405
that's how they cope

>>4901405
I was just trying to give a answer bro...

>>4900940
Much fewer, if any, western studios that target niche and interact with consumers compared to east asia. People would rather stick to what they know and so you get the Simpsons for running as long as it is.

Also it doesn't seem like the political/social climate for exploring/being interested in new/unusual ideas, rather than sticking to ideological teams and being cheap and boring.

>>4900940
because it's cost effective. You knew this before starting the thread

>>4900940
Digimon character design is shit.

>>4900940
Why anime characters look better than cartoon characters even when the proportions are fucked up?

>>4901772
>iconic characters
>shit

>>4900940
Because americans are terrible at anything creative.

>>4901793
It's not fucked up it's stylized jesus christ no wonder you're all so terrible in this board.

>>4901795
I hate the word "iconic". A character is only "iconic" because their product is successful, not often because of any inherent qualities of the character. Mario is an iconic character, but if you tried to pitch a character like him nowadays, you'd be laughed out of the room unless you were making a project yourself.

>>4901821
Counter argument :
Kirito is very popular and from a successful licence but he is hardly "iconic". In fact he's the poster boy for generic LN protagonist, you can't recognize his shape or design unless you know about the work.

That's what "iconic" means: Popular AND easy to spot on.
Pic related isn't really iconic since Grandia is a niche retro-rpg but that girl doesn't look like anything else. She has latent iconic potential.

>>4901405
Because people are actually thinking about why western charecters have simpler etc designs than anime charecters instead of just saying stuff like "because anime is superior" or "STFU weeb"

>>4900940
Because westerners prefer faster more fluid animation. Charecters have to be designed from simple shapes and such yet goofily proportioned with goofy expressions in order to not be too costly to animate at a constant 30 frames per second while still being entertaining to watch.

>>4901795
>popular = it's good
that's your fallacy right there

>>4902007
read >>4901872

>>4902020
read https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

>>4902033
Ah, sorry. I didn't think you were a midwit, my bad.

>>4901806
This board hates stylization which sucks because there's no stylized art equivalent of /ic/ for critique for people who want to still get better at rendering and other things without being told they're shit for intentionally not conforming to perfect realism, the /alt/ threads are still rife with /ic/ realism.

>>4900940
Because it's easier for children to draw you fucking retards.
Digimon/pokemon etc is specifically made to sell toys or some shit that's why it has higher quality art.

>>4902869
Digimon/pokemon has the worst generic art, moron! what's your point???

>>4901793
You fucking sperg, eggman is created from japan you dumbass weeb.

>>4901922
wong, all tv/feature animation is at 24fps. really terrible post

>>4902939
family guy is frame by frame animated in 60 fps

>>4902869
>shit that's why it has higher quality art.
lmafo no
Pokemon, the TV show, is 80% animated in some forest with generic stock tree forest backgrounds that haven been reused over and over because who could tell the difference anyway?

Only the movies and shorts are good.

>>4902949
no its not stop spewing bullshit

>>4902972
south park has even over 200 fps

>>4900940
tbf OK Ko at least has thicc women around every corner, Digimon was practically barren of attractive women except for that angelwoman and demonwoman digimon.

>>4901907
Is that the inside of a cheese grater

>>4900940
You can only produce what you are.

>>4901404
the only thing i can say about modern western cartoons is that they are lazy or just mediocre, japanese cartoons or anime are is just stylized or polish shit, but for some how they are more dedicated to their work than americans, you can watch how kid/teen/young adults are more atractive to ching chong cartoons because some them has a more interesting desing, animation or colors.

While in america/western there is a limited animation, a stuck art style and a color palette that seems to copy the styleof steven universe(let's not say anything about agenda because everybody knows of where is it going) and watch the same art style one time and another is boring.

>>4903030
This is a mind fried on porn. Fucking OK KO of all things.

How can you tell a Cartoon is a Cartoon?

because it's ugly.