/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

help

>>4952511
>>4952513
>>4952622
Asking again for help. Do I need to practice perspective more? First time Ive tried to "Draw" an actual thing and not practice sketches. I've only been drawing for a few days

>>4952813
You can't construct properly yet. Focus on doing geometric mannequin figures. Look up Proko's mannequinization video and do that. Or copy other drawings to get a feel for proper form. Michelangelo, Pontormo, other old renaissacne artists used forms in clear and obvious ways so that's a possible way to study too.

>>4952822
Thanks, ill try that

Lots of stuff on figure drawing but how the fuck do you even learn rendering

Should I draw on much bigger scales than this if I want my art to look better?

>>4952832
check out ron lemen on youtube
>>4952813
what are you trying to draw? is that a dancing or flying pose?
>>4952770
be more concise. help with what?

>>4952841
>what are you trying to draw? is that a dancing or flying pose?
Its based off the ballerina reference I used, i linked it in the post

>>4952841
>be more concise. help with what?
She kind of looks like a trans midget. How do I make it more appealing?

>>4952770
Are you using reference!!!!

>>4952862
>>4952862
Yes. For the pose and anatomy, face is completely original.

I took pose from some 2009 Japanese porn photo shoot.

>>4952877
Well compare the anatomy within your drawing, how it relates to other parts. For one, look at her neck size

>>4952770
I'm /beg/ too but i think i might help with head.
You seems to not have understanding of head construction.
Learn proportions of face, like distance between nose and chin. Some perspective study will sure benefit too.

>>4952884
Ok so i quickly stretched and squashed her upper torso and made her neck thinner. Is it better?

>>4952921
I did use contstruction for her head. I went for something like in the pic rel. When you can still fully see her left eye.

>>4952949
Here is bothed head construction that i use.

i feel like my mentality is stopping me from getting good
how do i change that

>>4952952
Pencil grade doesn't matter

>>4952952
try to use land marks

>>4952832
Pencil grade doesn't matter you dumbass

>>4952968
How many times do I have to tell you that pencil grade doesn't matter.

>>4952966
Take 6g of dry shrooms and listen some Pink Floyd.

I fugged up :(

>>4952967
>pencil grade
what does that mean?

>>4952921
Here is a sketch on top of a construction.

>>4952767
I'm gonna post some of the art I've dont in the last week that I saved.

>>4953023

>>4953025

>>4953026
last one have I improved at least a little since the last time I posted in /beg/?

>>4953025
Bro...

>>4953032
I never draw women so I'm starting to try and they look horrendous. I did the head last

>>4953037
How old are you anon

>>4953040
Okay listen man I really didnt care about how the fact looked and drew it 2 seconds, If you want a face heres one I drew a few months ago

>>4953043
How old

>>4952770
>>4952952
check your proportions and keep practicing construction

>>4953045
146

>>4953054
You're definitely underaged based on your artwork and fear of saying your real age
Anyway I suggest putting more time into your artwork unless you don't want to improve

This is my first digital drawing. How is it?

>>4953058
No its just a dumb question and not a criticism. Age doesn't mean anything theres 12 year olds who draw better than half the people on this board ever will.

>>4953060
Not bad anon but dont use that brush in paint its shit

>>4953046
Thats extreamly usefull, Thank you anon.

>>4953065
Your insecurity is showing

>>4952980
Anon, try being really strict with yourself with form. Make sure everything you draw literally is either a sphere, cube, or cylinder, or sections of them mashed together. A roll of fat is really just a cylinder. Be really precise and give each form the respect and attention it deserves. Each quad muscle should be as carefully conceived of and fit into the whole as the whole tube of the thigh, and each nodule in the knee should be as carefully conceived as the sphere for the head. Fit everything together with precision, like an engineer. You can be loose at first, but you have to work over it with "completeness". Otherwise you'll never be able to render it.

>>4953069
ok bud

>>4953066
Aight, thanks for the advice

>>4953074
yeah. this was mine

>>4953023
>>4953025
>>4953026
>>4953029
Come back when you're 18.

>>4953092
Same fag absolutely seething

>>4953092
Guy who bugged you earlier here
Naw.

>>4953094
I am not trying to insult you, but you are obviously underage. You cannot get any meaningful critique if you haven't even attempted understanding any of the fundamentals. You chicken scratch and badly copy anime. This is apparent to everyone.

>>4953079
Not too bad, better than mine

Which brush should I use?

(Brush choices are under where it says custom)

>>4953112
Looking nice anon

>>4953114
Thanks!

>>4953113
Any hard round brush gets the job done, that other anon who said not to use that brush is retarded. Just work on building your skills

>>4953120
Aight

>>4953113
I like the fountain pen

Am I doing this right?

The boxes I can follow simple rules but figures I'm just going off of feel. Doesn't help that most of them are pretty tiny. Are they supposed to get that small that quickly?

>>4953112
I think that her pelvis is too small, because her vagina is too high

I think I posted this the other day somewhere here?
I am not sure really anymore.

Eh, I'm trying. I just can't seem to replicate the natural flow of a pen and paper on a tablet and in krita.

Either the lines are wonky as shit or highly unnatural due to a stabilisator.

i'm doing vilppu's figure course right now
should i even bother going past the construction stuff
this rendering stuff is completely lost on me and he's talking about anatomy stuff that i can't even understand now...

Anyone have any recommendations for a free (or piratable) beginner construction guide?

>>4953245
look through the archive and find the video thread. go through vilppu, maybe proko

Has anyone read Successful Drawing? What did you think? How does it compare to his others books?

Quick break from studying, not a big a fan of titties that obscure the waist but drawing this was kinda fun.

is this good?

Chinese food and anime is on the menu today
https://imgur.com/a/L0ztwVc

Had very very little time to draw today, did also a portrait but it was too shitty. I feel that there is not much else left for me in Keys to drawing, should I read Loomis after the fifth chapter (The illusion of depth)?

I'm not going to bother finishing this, it's absolutely repulsive, totally shit and most grade school kids could do better. I am total human garbage when it comes to drawing. With that being said, my desire to improve outweighs my desire to not totally fucking embarass myself so I'm going to post this asking for what the actual fuck I should do to get better. Practice individual anatomy? Do a day where I do only hands, breasts, torsos, heads? What exactly? I already spent a few days doing very shitty figure sketches.

>>4953446
what figure drawing books and courses have you done?

>>4953450
No books or courses. I watched a few youtube videos very vaguely describing the process of figure drawing.

Im kinda proud of myself

>>4953446
If you’re having trouble copying a body from photo reference, you should trace over the body just to help you visualize the shape of her, try marking anatomy land marks like her collarbone and such, then go back to your drawing and see how it differs
You can also draw over and deconstruct her body like how her rib cage would be in a simple shape and apply that to your drawing to learn, I recommend proko videos to get a start on learning these things and draw along with the videos

>>4953453
> what the actual fuck I should do to get better

well theres your answer, howd you expect to get better without a teacher and just fumbling around, stop trying to reinvent the wheel and just get someone like villpu or proko to tell you what to do and you will see rapid improvement

What should I improve on in the future?

>>4953459
>>4953460
I was avoiding proko like the plague because of the way that guy holds his pencil, I can't replicate that with a fat drawing tablet pen no matter how hard I try and I feel like I won't be able to do the same things he does unless I do hold it like that. Am I wrong?

I need help with colors I think? I’m using acrylic. I guess any advice about this.

>>4953479
>Avoiding proko because of how he holds a pencil
Yes you’re very wrong

>>4953479
its not about what he draws with, its about the knowledge he passes on, he can be doing it with paint it doesnt matter, the medium doesnt matter, all art has the same underlying fundamentals and construction, but to give you an actual answer every course uses over hand grip and honestly it doesnt matter as long as you draw from your shoulder and have some sort of pressure sensitivity on your brush

>>4953479
I was like this for the longest time too anon so i understand

>>4953479
Nah, you can hold the pencil any way you want. Proko has a process, but he mainly teaches the raw fundamentals.

I practice everything digitally, especially the rendering. I can't control graphite or charcoal tonal shapes at all

>>4953486
>>4953491
>>4953493
>>4953494
Thanks for the sagely advice, I'll drop $100 on the figure drawing course.

>>4952837
Do smol drawings when practicing things like proportions, big drawings for studies and finished works.

>>4953496
Just download it for free
Go look on the video course thread or some shit where you can get dozens of materials for free

>>4953496
nah, get the anatomy course instead, with the 3d models. The figure course is very similar to the one on youtube

Rough sketch with rough colors. Does anything look particularly off or can I move on to the lineart?

>>4953528
the bandages look like body paint

>>4953496
just go to the video course torrent thread

Do you guys think tracing and copying is a valid way to learn?

>>4953562
only if you can draw it from a different angle afterwqards

>>4952837
Really cool, i would say you should try on a bigger scale it would help you to make more detailds

>>4953562
>tracing
In my opinion no unless it’s to really iron out a problem you’re having. I think it’s important to work on your observational skills without needing to rely on tracing to look at lines to copy, “trace” the construction of the body, not the contours if that makes sense

>>4953562
I'm beg as fuck but I did notice this detail

>>4953595
God I dont know why but legs and hips fuck me over so hard. I wish I could just draw busts forever and get away with it. Thanks for pointing that out

some heads before sleep

>>4953616
neat. middle right has a weird left eye

I can't tell what I did wrong on this one.

>>4953625
this looks like a sketch youd see of a newspaper someone drew of a key witness in a court room or something

>>4953627
is that bad?

>>4953625
Post ref

>>4953630
not at all, I can't even draw circles

>>4953632
...

am I supposed to know how to draw circles? because that's something I struggle with lol

>>4953631 goto >>4952649

Drew these four from memory after reading and doing what that vilppu drawing manual has in it and fairly content with it. I feel like the manual gave me a better grasp on constructing figures.

>>4953479
Just so you have a better understanding of why he's holding the pencil like that, he's probably drawing on a large newsprint pad that's being held up vertically. It's way easier to move around the page with your shoulder, tilting the pencil adds a variety of edge types and line widths, but that's all pretty irrelevant to the actual fundamentals that are being covered here which can be translated to any setting.

Hoping I could get some advice on this if possible.... I am working on shading pages of my webcomic and have been struggling with nighttime shading, getting it just right. Here's a page I was testing the shading on, and would love some thoughts on how it looks and what I could do to improve upon it.

>>4953675
Here's another of the same page with darker shading on the character, don't know if this is any better but figured I'd share it as well.

I get the feeling I can draw cooler things when using the pencil tool.
Ironically I was annoyed at first, I'm sorta forced to use pencil tool because people at the group I post to apparently HATE digital art. I've seen amazing things posted there but they get ignored in favor of realistic pencil portrait #842 or even crappy traditional drawings with a pencil on the table.

People really over-value trad so I'm trying to imitate it. Maybe I can sneak in a paper texture underneath

ouch

Is this enough gesture, does it still look stiff? I don't really feel like this kind of pose could use a lot of bending. It's more of a pout and brat pose.

>>4953926
Just fake it, trad is kinda stupid. Make your digidrawings absolutely huge and then downscale and add paper texture for realism. Print it off if you have to. The only reason it’s really “easier” is convenience. Undos, perfect eraser. You’d have to be retarded not to use it. By all means keep a real sketchbook for fun but don’t let tradfags drag you down. Successful people use all the tools available to them. The only thing I’d say is that real paintings have a different quality to them but even in that case you could still make all your line art digitally like a sane person

>>4953976
It's actually pretty gestural. Now go work on your structure/anatomy!

>>4953976
I know you’ve gone for raised shoulders but it looks more like you removed the internal bones from the whole shoulder area. Not sure if it’s to do with the direction of the head but the shoulders look squished to me. I’m no teacher though

>>4953976
> When you're angry but also want to seduce Onii-chan

>>4953976
think about perspectiveeeeee
where is the ground plane???
https://www.muddycolors.com/2015/09/perspective-and-elevation-in-the-figures-you-draw/

>>4953995
Could you tell me where I messed up the anatomy?
I really though I got it right, I was studying feet and leg anatomy recently.

i can't color for poop but i enjoy sketching alot
tips on how to make coloring better?

>>4953126

>>4954070
stuck and dont know how to refine this. i think i messed up the values and couldve used a darker tone for the shadow area

>>4954058
i recommend values first before learning anything about color

also resize your image next time holy hell

>>4953926
your art group sounds toxic and a bunch of ngmi imho

leave asap

>>4954082
Looks neat anon, I'm still a beginner tho but I think you just jeed to add more details (e.g. pupils, lips).

Here's something I made while I tuned out of my class today.

>>4953562>>4953599
A middle ground that works well is copy from ref, then put the copy on top of the reference to check your accuracy and to see if you conveyed the forms well. It mostly just makes you better at copying but the easier it is to copy the l as time you spend correcting your drawings when you study references

R8

More vehicules sketches.

UUUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Using a pencil really brought out my best skills, it had been a while only using watercolors for softer stuff

trying to memorise legs

>>4953624
they literally all have weird left eyes.

I'd say I'm alright at drawing characters and drawing people, but whenever I draw a piece I always have them hovering in a dark void because I don't know how to draw backgrounds. Where should I start? Any backgrounds I have attempted have looked very poor, with not enough/too much contrast and not enough shape. My perspective could probably use some practice too, I know that's important.

>>4954198
Hey these are pretty good, makes me wanna sketch vehicles like this too. You're combining nice organic shapes

what's the secret to decent looking lineart on clip studio paint? it seems no matter what I do it ends up looking too dark and ugly/squiggly.

How do I add a big Ole dick under the pants? Kind of like shown but whatever really. I have idea what the fuck in doing.

How do you simplify heavily detailed areas? Things like a bird's feathers, or the leaves on the ground in this picture, I don't understand how to actually depict them. I'm doing pencil sketches but they just end up really messy, I try to scribble with intention in those areas but it's rarely good enough or clear enough.

>>4954356
study the pros work and see how the handle this problem

can you change your art style?

>>4954358
nah the art police come in and arrest you, its impossible anon i'm sorry, unless you want to become a renegade rebel and join the art resistance who stand up against the art police you will be stuck with one art style your whole life, if you even for a second think about a new style your life has already ended

>>4954360
no for real
every person has their own way of thinking and it creates their own art style, their stuff is recognisable even if they're drawing cartoons or realism
can you actually change that?

>>4954358
>>4954365
Nope. Once you choose your style class, you're hard locked onto that class path. I heard there's an item that lets you reassign skill points, but that requires lvl. 10 loomis heads to access and doesn't let you choose your class again. You can create a new account and choose the style class you want by roping yourself. You might even reroll for better stats or passive buffs like ligameme, talent or asian genes!

>>4954365
if your hand even attempts it your muscles all freeze up, its physically impossible it can never be done, go on, go try it right now

>>4954390
you just don't get it do you

>>4954414
yes i know what your saying "your style is an extension of your mind and its all personal to ones self" but in reality style is mostly learnt and developed, you can adopt another style by simply copying them, you literally just draw in another style thats it...

>>4954414
and heres an example to blow your mind, 10 styles drawn my one person

>>4954414
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMUYG1hkY5c

fuck it heres a video as well

I feel like the pose/perspective could have been done better.

Jokes aside, did this in an hour. Wanted the fix the face. How to make it more coom.

My pencil smudges so bad that it leaves giant streaks over my page, what's causing this? Am I doing something wrong or is this just shitty materials?

>>4954422
Mins isn’t blown at all, most of these are ridiculously easy. You’re the sort of nigga that pays someone on Facebook to ‘Simpson’ you and your dog

Marisa Sketch
>>4954506
Really cute, i like the style.
>>4954480
That shading is really good. I feel like you failed at the proportions, head is too big and body is too small and slim.
>>4954305
Damn the anatomy is pretty good. 11/10 would let her crush me.
>>4954231
That shading is pretty good, but i would use harder values for darker shadows if i were you.

Just tried digital first time with my sisters wacom. Pretty cool desu. But lines too hollow.

>>4954531
i was saying mind blown because one person drew in ten different styles...not because its hard you inbred cunt

>>4954537
Half of digital drawing is learning the program. I wasted probably a year by being inefficient.

still learning legs, do i have to remember the abductor longus, gracilis and pecineus? I'm not sure how they're used if they're covered up by fat

What are some exercises I can do to get better control over line weight with pencil?

>>4954607
Hatching.
If you want to improve. Hatching + feel the form. Straight hatching. Curve hatching. Swirly hatching. I recommend you trace over a masterpiece.

Bernie wrightson for straight lines.

Does anyone have a good video on charcoal drawing? I found one on youtube that showed the artist using a brush to smooth out the charcoal strokes, but when I tried using a brush it didn't do shit. Very frustrating.

>>4954749
I photoshopped the levels darker btw, IRL it's bright as fuck

I feel like I went in waaaaaaay the wrong direction when I wanted to draw coom. But I also feel like understanding perspective, shapes, and textures is completely necessary if I were ever going to draw shit that doesn't suck.

What say you?

>>4952767
I have been away for a while. Crit please

>>4954770
Looks uncomfortable

why do all my drawings look so much worse when I take a picture of them?

>>4954878
I want her to rape me

>>4954770
>>4954790
I think you're right Anon. Here I redid it again on a post it note. Gave his face some room this time.

>>4955059
neat

Any good tips or tutorials for drawing heads at different dynamic angles?

>>4955192
feel the forms and study the head anatomy

>>4954858
Cus it captures a more crisp and still image of them
Have you ever drawn digitally? Digital makes the quality of your work very transparent

I didn’t use a whole lot of reference since it was mostly doodling outside of Elliot’s face and super sonic who I just straight copied, I think I should invest some grinding into clothes, heads and hands, as well as just generally improving my understanding of form

Can somebody explain why her toros does this curve outwards?
Also what's this line in her upper leg? Is that line between the rectus and vastus lateral? The shape doesn't seem right. I don't know what it is.

>>4955470
That's her pelvis bro

I don't want to grind still life and buildings and portraits, I just want to get into figure drawing already. What do I need to know before I start?

>>4955489
I'm talking about her leg where her femur is, there's like 4 arrows pointing to it

>>4955498
I'm talking about the top arrow "torso pointing outwards"

>>4955503
oh i see, for the top arrow i meant the curve it-self on the ribcage, not where it's pointing to. My bad.
The curve goes round like a ribcage would but it then protrudes out and then goes back in. Like there's something inside making it do that.

test

I cant do the perspective made easy cigar box thing, and all my boxes look wobbly
help

>>4955490
Just do it nigga you don't need any ones approval to do a damn thing

>>4955537
The more you draw the neater your art will become, don't worry about the woble worry about the form

>>4953532
ok, so I tried to give more volume to the bandages, how is it now?

Working my way through How to Draw

>>4955561

What are these called?
I always see them when girls spread their legs.
Is it the sartorious muscle? Or is it something else?

Im better at figure drawing if I do it the keys to drawing way, either a quick outline or making fast lines that almost make no sense but all to get the vague idea of where every part is leading, is that valid or should I go into vilppu? I like doing gesture this way, it's pretty instinctual although i end up making like 2 pages of each, exaggerating the motion until I can grasp it

/cm/ drawings

>>4955571
Adductor magnus. Sartorius origin is ASIS (Anterior Superior Iliac spine)

>>4955592
>Adductor magnus. Sartorius origin is ASIS (Anterior Superior Iliac spine)

Wow thanks, I was thinking it was the femur for a second, but that would be way further away.

halp

halp

halp

I'm still trying to get used to recognising muscles.
Is the red the vastus lataralis, blue the ilicitol tract and the purple the semimembranosus?
Is the semitedinosus to the left of the semimembranosus but hard to see?
Or is the purple the semimembranosus and semitedinosus joined into one?
The all seem to stretch a bit too far close to the
knee.

I cant tell if there is a problem with proportions on this one. I feel like arms are too short but i cant tell why i feel like this, they look long enough (?)
Also, i think there is some big anatomy error here and there but i didnt study this kind of thing yet

any help? ive kind of stagnated

>>4955641
sorry the purple is the biceps femoris. I got them switch up but are the rest correct?

>>4954749
some paper just has shit texture that doesn't work at all for heavy charcoal/graphite rendering.

>>4955573
I don't feel like Keys to Drawing alone gives you a good idea of what gesture is or what it's good for. The Vilppu method of gesture is the first step in learning to construct the figure, so if your goal is to draw from imagination, then you will learn much, much more by doing it his way. I personally wish I'd moved on to him much sooner than I did. If you're having fun with "instinctual" gesture (and I think it's good to have a mix of instinctual and analytical approaches), then perhaps go full Nicolaides and scribble like a madman.

>>4955712
>Nicolaides
that's amazing anon, I love it. But wouldnt that mess up my learning process, I dont think I have enough experience to do gesture like vilppu, already failed at hampton

>>4954082
>i messed up the values
I think I messed that up too

>>4955556
Desaturate the bandages imo

>>4955627
>>4955616
Specify what you'd like help with within your drawing

critiq pls, help me improve

>>4955641
Thought he was barfing for a sec from the thumbnail and was gonna save. Disappointing.

>>4955926
use refs

>>4955926
congrats, you've reached proficiency inloating anime heads. p

at this level, i think you're able to understand what it is you're doing enough that most crits are just nitpicking and things you can see yourself. at a certain point criticism doesn't apply and it just becomes arguing over style/preference

>>4955963
>use refs

>>4955671
start coloring, shading, work on eyes, hair, ears, mouths, draw entire figures

>>4955738
I can't speak for your level, but the thing to remember is that gesture is not just something you either succeed or fail at. It's a learning tool. It can be hard to "capture the action" if you're not sure what the figure is doing in the first place. But gesture is not just about getting down what you already know, it's about figuring things out and recording your observations.

Part of what Vilppu teaches you is what you should look for. Say for instance you're just starting and he talks about how when the body "stretches" one way, it "compresses" in the other. From then on you will look for examples of this when you do gesture. Even if you're not sure how to convey this information in your drawing, the fact that you were looking for it means that you've added it to your pool of knowledge. Your ability to understand what you see and your ability to put down what you understand improve in tandem. (The same applies to Nicolaides, except he places the emphasis on "experiencing" rather than observing.)

In short, my advice is don't feel like you need to "get it right" to learn. Just take what you can, and apply it. If you feel like you aren't getting it, you can always revisit it later.

Oooo I'm the floating head ghost

>>4955856
EVERYTHING

figure drawing, I spent time on a few but it ended up taking too long so i just rushed with the drawings and putting on the muscles and bones

>>4956010
You coulda at least changed the file name to bait people

>>4956010
>Oh? You want to draw floating anime heads? Heh... Well take a look at this low functioning autistic Finn's symbol drawn portrait. Heh, bet you feel stupid right about now for thinking you could ever make artistic progress doing anything but studying Bargue plates.

>>4956033
Not him but anon who the fuck are you quoting

>>4956013
you're perfectly content in making 20million portraits and ignoring a fuckton of anon screaming to draw something other than people from the neck up so there's no way of helping your hopeless, hardheaded ass.

>>4956045
>who the fuck are you quoting
like 1/3 of /ic/

>>4956047
I ask people what to draw and they say "just draw" but not what so I just do what I know

any time I try to draw anything else it looks so bad that i feel embarrassed and don't want to try that any more :/

>>4956046
Great render, crap linear, GMI engery

How are Brent Eviston's drawing courses? There's a huge sale on them right now so I'm thinking of it

>>4956052
>I ask people what to draw and they say "just draw" but not what so I just do what I know
Understandable. Go to a random art prompt or character generator and do that shit. Get out of your comfort zone or youll never grow. Do you want to draw floating heads forever?

>any time I try to draw anything else it looks so bad that i feel embarrassed and don't want to try that any more :/
Thats retarded. If you cant get over being embarrassed about being bad at something while youre obviously learning it, I dont know what to tell you man. Grow a thicker skin. Learn to get over your bullshit and step out of your comfort zone. Do you actually want to make anything with your art and build skills? Or just draw heads

>>4956075
Why not try it for free through evil piracy, and purchase it if it's actually helping you improve?

shiney

>>4955802
woah thats a very nice take anon tysm

>>4955802
>>4956153
why the fuck are you both so good

>>4956156
the /beg/ thread is where /int/s go to discuss advanced value and gesture study
why? because fuck you

>>4955802
lmao if you're going to be good, give us /beg/s tips and advice about painting
like talk about what the original did """""wrong""""'", talk about your process, why you think yours was wrong etc

Sorry to come with more questions but I was trying to draw something that's a bit bent and I got the outline but wasnt able to sell the idea of the interior being being and I realized Ive got a huge issue with depicting volume.
>>4955993
Alright, I get it now, yeah I've been trying to feel this motion, sometimes Ill act it out but I already got the course downloaded so Ill go straight into it, any other fundamental I should be thinking about?

I'm starting to think boobs aren't supposed to be seen like that when fully clothed, welp it was nice while it lasted

I never learned how to paint

Hi in Krita is there a way to create a square hard brush in which the rectangle tip is horizontal? Round is too annoying to color with for me but all the pen templates are vertical rectangles

>>4956234
hey its beg but very nice drawing nonetheless :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM500KBVuhA

>watch this video on bad art advice
>the stuff listed here is 90% of everything /beg/ and /ic/ in general tell you

Also try drawing this tiger

>>4956249
Try using more than 5% opacity

>>4956304
Oh I actually did a greyscale then overlayed ontop of it.

>>4956311
Add darker values then, it looks like you used at darkest a light gray. Unironically hard round brush

How's it look? I'm really tying to apply some of the advice I got here and work on anatomy and form.

How do I blend the shadow color and the base color better? I'm just using the blend tool in CSP but it looks like ass.

Also general comments please, I just started a week ago and I have no idea what I'm doing

How do I blend the shadow color and the base color better? I'm just using the blend tool in CSP but it looks like ass.

Also general comments please, I just started a week ago and I have no idea what I'm doing

please critique, I'm spending most of my day studying anatomy, but I can't seem to apply it to small bodies all too well.

>>4954356
brushes

>>4956446
>Pedo
NGMI

Here I just finished this shitty facial sketch.

>>4956474
Shit I forgot to resize the image.

>>4953130
you're missing the point of Bridgeman

Should I learn the muscles before I start doing figure drawing or just draw the shapes? I am currently practicing gesture and reading Hampton

>>4953625
you have shadow values on the light side

>>4956493
something tells me you are not reading hampton if you have to ask that question

>>4956498
I think he's at the beginning of hamton where they just teach you gesture and not the 3d shapes/anatomy,

>>4956160
Well, it is a bit difficult to explain but i see so many flaws in my works mehh
I'm still a /beg/, so I don't know everything.
Here's some steps of my chaotic process:

Any critique?
I tried making sure my figures are on the ground this time.

>>4956636
>Pedo
NGMI

I want to start practicing drawing from inagination.
How do I spot and correct errors without reference?
I have a hard enough time even with photos.
Pic related is a quick drawing without reference.
I can't see anything too wrong, but I'm sure that there are errors and shit that I can't see.
How do you catch them?
Should I just go back to practicing with reference?

How to draw dragons that aren't shit?

>>4956474
Not /beg/

>>4956835
Only until he draws 50% more of the body

>>4956075
I signed up for a free trial to skillshare for his figure drawing course. Honestly I think I got a lot out of it, it builds up a process that's pretty useful, a good mix of fundies and tips and tricks. I should probably go over it again to remind myself of how all the line of action stuff works, since I did find he spends a lot more time on making more complete figures over quick gestures and I never really got a handle on it.

attempt at a portrait from imagination. Hes meant to be gaunt, balding, and in his late 30s. Did i manage to communicate any of that?

>>4956457
Ignore this fag, Ive already coomed 7 times in the last 2 hours to this image

>>4956947
he looks more 40s or even early 50's, and he doesn't look gaunt or balding to me

>>4956715
learn how the structure of things work (skeleton and muscle anatomy)

>>4957044
Are you blind ? the hair is fucking receding.

>>4957048
are you the artist

>>4957050
No, that was someone else. Thank you for the critique, I’ll try and tweak it

I'm a total scrub at digital, why the fuck this pixelated shit keeps happening?
I use Sai to draw and import shit on Photoshop for finalization

>>4957206
Because youre not working in a vector or you need to work at a higher image size if you want zoomed in shit to look crisp. There are only so many pixels in a canvas. Make it bigger.

>>4957209
If make it bigger after turning it into a PNG it stays shit, right?
Can I fix that somehow on Photoshop?

>>4957206
Show us the entire image. You’re probably zooming in way too much.

>>4957206
Either use a softer brush, or use a larger brush on a larger canvas. Mostly likely though you won't be able to see it much regardless so don't sweat it. Save the image as a .png and look at it in it's native size, if it's visible there then try a larger canvas.

>>4957335
Thanks
About that, how can I understand if the pixelation will be visible if I print that on a shirt or something?

125

>got better at drawing
>drawing is suddenly fun
Why did /ic/ lie to me?

>>4957342
I don't have a definite answer, but I'd say most prints are about the size of an average monitor. If there's no pixilation at around 2000x2000 you're probably good. Even then, you'd have to be pretty close to the print in order to see it.

I have no credentials whatsoever though, so if anyone else knows please correct me.

>>4952767
Sup drawfags?
I've been off /ic/ for a few days. I got tired of seeing crabs crabbin hard. Y tho? Why would you be mean? Art industry is growing. And it's growing fast. Faster than the rate at which people become commercially good artists.
Anyway I always end up coming back. Maybe I'm masochistic. Bring your snib snabs. I'm sure i'm gonna be immune to snibs one day. I DRAW EVERYDAY ANYWAY WHATEVER MY MOOD IS T.T

How the unholy hell do you draw realistic hair

>>4957399
Then here's an OC
Btw how would I improve the claws?

>>4957404
Study crab anatomy.

>>4956446
it looks so fucking awasome anon, good job
Do you have any tips on drawing loli?

>>4957404
that's a packed crab

What's a good fanart to try for a /beg/?

I always see trash fanart floating around anyway, might as well try something fans might like even if I'm still trash myself.

>>4957496
More specifically rule 34 type fanart I suppose..

>>4957496
How about something you like, it being fanart and all.

>>4957506
The stuff I like is mostly out of my skill range, or won't get attention so I'm not going to get as much criticism as I'd like.

>>4957206
Increase dpi. 300 - 350.
Update graphic card driver.

>>4957540
>or won't get attention
?
On here or Twitter??

What makes this considered good enough to be in a movie that cost $90 million?

I feel like if I made this and it wasn't a Marvel movie reference, literally no one would tell me it's good.

>>4957691
>I feel like if I made this
Don't worry, you wouldn't be able to make that.

>>4957691
recreate it right now

>>4957700
I don't think that's necessary, and I'm not shitting on the whole film anyway.

This character is always so awkwardly shaped, and looks pretty awful here.

>>4957709
> awkwardly shaped, and looks pretty awful here.
This is so advanced to your level that you can't even begin to understand it.

It's been 50 years
And I still suck at it

First drawing ever after reading Loomi's fun with a pencil

>>4957750
Looks like you only watched some Sinix videos and doodled all that time.
If you want to improve, there is no easy way. Grab the book and study, it takes time. Hella lot of time, but its worth it.

>>4953097
Cute rat, some nice color blends

>>4953130
no, your parallel lines are not match.

>>4953231
Practice that, use your elbow and fill canvases with just lines.

>>4953317
Pretty good, arms looks off tho, looks way too long.

>>4953323
no, but it have SOUL

>>4953405
>>4953433
Keep drawing

>>4953462
Looks promising, do not put much detail in gesture. You will improve by anatomy studies.

>>4953482
Use less saturated colors, right now it looks like everything glowing.

>>4953966
Solid construction but those lines are big no no.

>>4954003
Put some waight in to ribcage. It looks like she's made of paper.

>>4957398
That's actually some good logic, thanks

>>4957785
do you have any spare feedback for me?

I know it's basic but it's my 3rd time ever doing digital art

>>4954237
Good studies, keep it up. Remember it takes time.
>>4954565
Depends what you gonna draw, if your goal is to draw fully detailed anatomy figures then yes.

>>4956015
Don't rush, take your time and analyze through process.

>>4956147
Push values little more and think of that light reflections, why does it even reflecting like this? My point is to avoid copying only.

>>4956348
looks /beg/ but there is some stuff you learnd for sure. Stick with gesture and figure constructions for while.

>>4956355
Color theory, but i will advice you to drop coloring and focus on drawing stuff from life if u just started.

>>4956636
cute, the pose can be improved. Her center of waight is all on legs so that straight arm is look little off. Try to put it closer to figure maybe.

>>4956763
Study some top tier dragons illustration and look for animal anatomy and drawing creatures resources.

>>4957802
You captured some proportions pretty well, but still it lacks in too many fields to get pass.
I would reccomend to practice simple forms and build figures out of that, like in pic related.
If you start to feel comfortable with it you can start studying anatomy.

>>4952767

All my lines look wobbly and my boxes look like shit
I do the peter han 8 lines thing but its on the mark when it comes to being smooth but not perfectly straight

>>4957785
>>4957809
Wholesome mass reply anon

>>4957868
Stupid frog poster

>>4957047
thanks.
Anything you think I should fix specifically?

>>4957785
Thanks for the crit. What does a good anatomy study look like?

>>4957809
Thank you. You mean avoid copying in favor of exaggerating the reference, right?

>>4957822
I dont know how to do construction right now but I really want to get to draw people already, not skipping it but can I copy this and make some drawings for fun, will it work?

>>4957977
>What does a good anatomy study look like?

Like pic related

>You mean avoid copying in favor of exaggerating the reference, right?

Not really, its more about learning something from that. You can kinda master drawing what you see, but if you want to draw some stuff from imagination its not gonna help much.
The thing about drawing from ref is to deconstruct things and analyze them.
Like in that knight helmet you can try to find light sources, think how light bounces from surface, why it goes darker in some areas, how color temperature changes etc.

>>4957991
forget pic

>>4957980
Everything will work in some way, but good understanding of construction and forms will make it so much easier to learn anatomy and further stuff.
Without that basics anatomy is hella confusing.

>>4957998
Oh no I will study it, I just want to try my hand at drawing bodies today

>>4957785
>>4957809
>skipped
EVERY FUCKING TIME!

NEW THREAD
>>4958023
NEW THREAD
>>4958023
NEW THREAD
>>4958023

Master study for inktober

>>4953113
Experiment and decide for yourself. I like the hard dip pen smooth and water color brushes. Experiment and find what look you like your art to have.

>>4953675
Darker shadows in the farthest points from light. That building should be darker and almost black. Sky should be a lot blacker unless it is dusk and it just got dark out. Hair highlights bug me. Hair should have separate lines at highlight even if they are fat chunky ones to match the cartoonish art style. Good for you for getting so far with making your webcomic. Personally I cheat with making something at night and do the proper colors and then cover everything with a top layer of dark pale blueish gray with like 70% or lighter opacity. Then erase over bright spots where light hits. Pic related is a example of how I cheated to make it darker without trying to figure out the perfect colors that match what they would be in the darkness.