/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>5151127
Are ipads worth the hype?

>>5151127
heres the webm

where the fuck is my stimmy part 3

>>5151149
>>5151151
Trying to get in as early as possible with your shilling, eh Zhang? If only that pesky OP didn't cost you so many sales, you might actually get that 30 minute vacation you've been waiting 3 years for.

>>5151127
>Check out the webm
Webm related.

is there an easy way to find the best prices on tablets via something like pcpartpicker or any site that checks most common retailers?

>>5151157
Gsmarena

>>5151155
how come i was able to do the exact same thing in my webm properly despite it being the exact same tablet?
pretty weird stuff chang...
btw how much is wacom paying you? gonna ask for a raise tomorrow!

>>5151151
i honestly can't tell if this post is directed at chang or made by chang

OP here, this is all you'll ever need
And no, you don't need more.

>>5151162
The guy you replied to is a chinese shill who appears to live in these threads. He also loves in the tablet boards on reddit, and the youtube comments of tablet videos.

Paid shills have got to work hard man.

>>5151158
>wacom
>0 results
looks like a phone website anon

>Budget
$900
>Location
USA
>Type (display? non-display? portable?)
Display
>Size (in inches)
I'd like to try out 15.6 in or larger
>More information
Perhaps something with a matte feel would be nice
>Previous equipment
Wacom intous small, the first ipad pro, samsung note s20

Is the huion kamvas pro 24 decent?

>>5151182
it's decent, but the schizo OP will call me a chang/chink shill for saying that.

>>5151194
Alright, thanks anon. I think I'll go for it

>>5151182
>Is the huion kamvas pro 24 decent?
I bought chinese and I paid the price. I do not recommend it. There are plenty of better tablets out there for $900

>>5151208
>zhang says its fine
>"ok i'll go for it"
Seems a bit samefaggy to me.

>zhongguoren is a samefag
>schitzo is a samefag
... sure is easy to confirm your existing bias around here?

>>5151238
Okay but what exactly about it didn't work out for you anon?

>>5151145
I love my 12.9 iPad Pro. Super handy and I can take it anywhere. Typing documents and drawing and just surfing the web or watching videos it’s easy to do it anywhere and everywhere I go. I also use Procreate and Medibang and that fills up my drawing needs easily.

reposting my question since it didn't get any answers:
>>5150998
can you have two different clip studio subscriptions? I use EX on my computer, but only want the pro sub on my tablet.

>>5151267
Yeah just use different log-in details for each.

any cheap phone with decent drawing capabilities (bonus for included stylus)?
I already have ipad air but I would like something smaller just to fuck around while on the go

>>5151127
I have s6 lite but I barely draw using it. can any phone tablet chads show their drawings? I want to know if it's possible to make a good drawing on such a small device.

>>5151357
The Ibispaint youtube channel shows a bunch of process videos made on phone. I'd honestly say it's 100% possible even if it's annoying to work with such a small screen

>>5151357
Haven't tried to actually finish anything on my note 20 yet, but here's some doodles. The pain of lineart is exacerbated on it but its tolerable.

>>5151352
galaxy note

>>5151325
thanks

Are there any cheaper alternatives to the apple pencil for the ipad 8?

>>5151365
thanks, I'll take a look at it.
>>5151382
hey, this looks great! what software did you use? I have bunch installed, csp looks great but I hate the subscription plan after the 6 months trial ended.

>>5151418
Thanks anon! I use the same ibis paint the other anon mentioned. I use the free version that allows you to unlock all the brushes for a period of time by watching an ad, but the paid version isn't too expensive at all.

>>5151396
which gen?

Is samsung galaxy tab 6 lite good? I see it in recomended but whenever I try to search youtube for reviews etc only ipad shills that literally shake their hand on the screen to "prove that you can't draw straight lines on android".

>>5151182
You should do the xp pen 24" instead, it's my favorite tablet so far.

>>5151456
The 6 lite is not good. You want the other tab 6.

Ok, thank you for replies! I'll look into them.

>>5151480
tab s6 costs almost as much as tab s7 and doesn't offer any advantages whatsoever

>>5151456
it's good, don't listen to schizo who wants you to spend more than you should.

>>5151478
The XP-Pen has no lamination and a separately applied anti-glare matte film, while the Huion has full lamination and etched glass.

>>5151256
it was a sucky tablet with faulty gookware

>>5151127
>Intuos 3 - Best budget tablet.
i was searching for this on amazon and i can only find CTL4100 tablets which look pretty much the same. did they rebrand it?
>Also watch, Chinese companies shill HARD on /ic/.
would they really bother coming to a mongolian puppet show site instead of just buying fake reviews on amazon?

>>5151589
No, the Intuos 3 is ancient (see >>5151163), so I doubt many are selling them new.

>>5151589
>would they really bother coming to a mongolian puppet show site instead of just buying fake reviews on amazon?
its less they have shills and more have people who don't know the difference because the cheap was their first exposure

>>5151163
>That pic
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacom-Intuos3-4-x-6-Inch-Wide-Format-Pen-Tablet-PTZ431W-w-Software-Box-No-Pen/293912766569
Is this your listing? are you pushing the intuous 3 so people will buy from you?

>>5151634
Good work anon. We are one clue closer to getting the schizo to fuck off forever.

>>5151589
> would they rather
you've obviously never been here before. there's literally a 'cheap chinese shit' thread on /g every day.

> reviews
there are only so many times you can 5 star a 'i bought this for my [insert family member] and they broke down in tears of joy' before people start getting sus

>>5151589
>would they really bother coming to a mongolian puppet show site
Believe me, they do.
They also swarm reddit and the youtube comment sections. This is the reality of chinese marketing.

>>5151656
>there are only so many times you can 5 star a 'i bought this for my [insert family member] and they broke down in tears of joy' before people start getting sus
they're smarter than that. some chink companies put cards in their packages that offer a refund through paypal if you give them a review. there are contractors that maintain a list of people to do this with as well. when a chink company hires them for reviews they select a different set of people from their list and send them the money to buy it. they say to give honest reviews and the only rule is to not mention you got it for free. obviously people are more inclined to like free products so they'll probably give a good review but they're honest enough that they're indistinguishable from actual reviews.

>>5151656
>>5151681
oh i forgot, they care more about getting people to search for the product than reviews. with the way amazon's algorithm works, if people search for something and buy it then it's more likely to show up for other customers. because of this they give you search terms and a screenshot to help you find it instead of giving you a link. this has become a common way for chinks to cheat the system since it works.

>>5151164
>who appears to live in these threads

Gee, imagine living in these threads. Thatd be a shitty no life thing to do, wouldnt it. This will go over your head but others can enjoy it. Must suck being on the spectrum and not being able to pick up sarcasm.

>>5151656
>there's literally a 'cheap chinese shit' thread on /g every day.

Youd know, wouldnt you. Thanks for confirming youre a fucking /g/ tourist non artist. It really clears a lot up.


>>5151127
Has it ever once occurred to any of you that if someone recommends the xp pen tablet they got that its not because theyre a shill but because it lets them draw for a lower price? These things fucking work. Ofc /g/ autists who focus on comparison charts and abstract performance numbers dont care about this, but for the actual people on this board, for actually drawing shit, cheaper tablets work fine. This is why despite all the claims of them being shit, despite the claims of them having awful PR, response, quality, all of it, theyve been very successful. Its not some fucking giant chink conspiracy where they spend millions of dollars to keep drawing tablet companies afloat to make marginal profits. This is companies who luckily for us have followed the rules of the market and created competition for wacom jews and created affordable alternatives which just so happen to work.

Thinking theres an army of shills here while at the same time thinking its the same individual called chang who spends all his time trying to market on a channel as shitty as this low traffic board is pure mental illness, which is why we all should make fun of the OP.

>>5151691
>Has it ever once occurred to any of you that if someone recommends the xp pen tablet they got that its not because theyre a shill but because it lets them draw for a lower price?
and I'm sure you're doing that purely out of the goodness of your own heart, not because you're a chinese salesman at all!

That would explain why you're in this thread 20 hours a day, hurling abuse at anyone who highlights a flaw in the design of cheap, china trash.

For someone who is very clearly passionate about XP Pen and Huion, you sure have a flimsy reason for all this passionate shilling. Why are you so emotionally invested, Chang? Nobody else on /ic/ cares about tablets, let alone chinese tablets as much as you do.

>>5151690
the free market works. you some kinda commie?

man, i don't know who to trust here. fucking companies. can't trust youtube reviewers, customer reviews on storefronts, and now even goddamn forums and imageboards. i wish i had an artist friend to set me straight

>>5151700
>purely out of the goodness of your own hear

Actually, thats close. Its because I used a cheap tablet for several years and Ive never ever had trouble with them. When I see people paying 350 for intuos tablets I cant help but tell them not to. I dont particularly care about the actual companies, I just want wacom to have to become more affordable and the chinks are forcing them to. Then we all win.

I can also tell you arent an artist who figured you could host a tablet general here instead of /g/ where something must have happened to force you to exodus here. So when you try and act like an expert with little regard for the folks who actually, yknow, USE this shit, I have to respond. So until you shut the fuck up, I will never, ever go away. Homeworking is a blessing.

>>5151733
based

>>5151733
keyed

>>5151720
I can be your artist friend

>>5151733
> host
... you think he’s OP huh lol

>>5151733
> wanna drive wacom prices down
> by shilling something funded by CCP

does this make sense before it's translated to english?

>>5151733
>Actually, thats close. Its because I used a cheap tablet for several years and Ive never ever had trouble with them
Wrong, it's because you're a salesman, you just won't admit it because you're a dishonest chinaman.

>>5151852
No, he's a dumbass. Probably the same guy who'd rant, 'everything is made in China so it's all crap so just buy it its all the same'. Fucking tools, man.

Do any of you nogs use galaxy tablets as pen displays on windows via Superdisplay? Is it actually a viable option for chinese screen tablets or just a gimmick? I'm used to CSP but dont want to feed the subscription jew.

>>5151825
His limited vocabulary gives him away every time.

>>5151852
Actually, yes. The wacom one, while being a trash heap, was quite literally made in response to the chinks snagging up the lower end of the market. Any other questions?

>>5151867
Schizo rhetoric nr 192572

>>5151870
Thats actually part of another argument entirely. The schizo pushes the whole "dont support muh ccp, buy wacom and apple" shit, so people rightfully point out that you cant NOT support the CCP nowadays, so thats a stupid position. In response the schizo will move goalposts and say its about software infiltration and the like.

All this shit is besides the point, as again, the OP schizo isnt an artist, and all these /g/ faggots absolutely need to fuck off. Post your work or get the actual fuck out.

>>5151882
there are a couple of guys on here who do but are probably asleep right now. You might get a response in a few hours.

>>5151870
> 'everything is made in China so it's all crap so just buy it its all the same'

lol it IS him >>5151885

so proud of your scribble you deleted and reposted it huh?

>>5151895
Yeah. Yeah I deleted my own post on 4chan. The schizo certainly didnt report it to the jannies with tears streaming down his face, I deleted it to repost it again.

>>5151882
Yes, and it actually works really well. It's missing tilt support, but the developer has it on the app's roadmap.

superDisplay is one of the big advantages Android Tablets have over iPads. One time purchase, works really well and works on Windows.

>>5151895
>that reddit spacing
Uh huh? Kill yourself

>>5151903
reddit spacing is my favorite newfag filter

>>5151634
>>5151163

>>5151901
> the jannies

huh you mean the jannies that don’t exist on /ic and if they were they’d be ASLEEP right now? Yeah you deleted your post, lying attention-whore bitch.

I’ll make it easy for you. No, I’m not OP either.

>>5151925
This has to be bait

>>5151145
The Apple iPad Pro 12.9 is the only serious choice for actual professionals.
I don't see any reason whatsoever to use anything else as they're utterly inferior.

>>5152119
lol

>>5151118
so the tradeoff for colors isnt worth the better pen control and feel of the tablet with a matte screen protector?

>>5151700
>Why are you so emotionally invested, Chang? Nobody else on /ic/ cares about tablets, let alone chinese tablets as much as you do.

>>5150593
That's why I said if you try hard enough, dummy.

>>5151456
it's good, just keep in mind the s-pen is pretty thin in comparison to a wacom pen or the apple pencil

I bought a huion just to spite the anti-chink schizo (and because they had a big sale).

>>5152573
Which one, may I ask?

Bought a Tab S7+ (RIP my wallet), going to trade in my 10.5 inch iPad Pro from 2017. I’m really excited to work with a bigger screen, and try Clip Studio Paint on a better device! I tried it on my iPad Pro and it was laggy, wonder if it was because of the RAM? I hope I feel this upgrade as much as my wallet did.

>>5152573

>>5151145
My wife has one and sometimes I borrow it to do paintings in Procreate. It's not bad for casual things. PC will always reign supreme.

>>5152721
> It's not bad for casual things. PC will always reign supreme

meh you can do professional work too. this guy has some great work and exclusively works on ipad

https://www.artstation.com/johnsilva

>>5152597
HS611. Pen tilt is dope, my old wacom didn't have it.

>>5152856
bassed, remember when you support China you support the removal of kebab

>>5151163

>>5152683
Gib thoughts when you try it

Has anyone played an FPS on a tablet?

>>5152928
The whole world is getting chinked in a few decades anyway, might as well get a headstart.

>>5151145
Dunno about drawing but if your daily programs you use are there to their fully extent then yes. But no webM support tho

do any of you tape paper to your screenless tablet? i've been trying it today and I'm kinda liking it. i'd guess that nibs will wear down faster but I got a bunch of chinese ones off amazon so I don't care much about that.

>>5152856
Was there an actual sale? How much was it?

>>5153554
There's a sale on their Aliexpress page, which I'm sad because it doesn't extend to their official store (because PayPal) and I can't recall a time when a Kamvas Pro 16 was $800, so that specific discount looks fishy.

>>5153515
I'll give it a try. XP-Pen Deco Pro surface grinds nibs like a sandpaper.

>>5153569
You can use paypal on aliexpress now though?

>>5153571
Have wacom finally found their match?

>>5151127
Anyone have any good advice when starting out on a display tablet for the first time? I'm going to upgrade to an cintiq 16 from a huion h610 sometime next month.

>>5153655
Use fresh cum as lube for the nib. Reduces risk of scratching and wearing out the screen surface.

>>5153647
Not if your shipping address is in certain countries, like Argentina.

>>5153672
Rip. Tell your friends to stop reverse chinking the chinks so much, I guess.

>>5153655
It's a screen. the parallax might piss you off at first. Wacom's calibration tool is pretty good, use it (try to keep your head relatively where it is when you draw).

Keep drawing.

Is line stabilizer/smoothing in Photoshop necessary for tablets or is it just a crutch?

>>5153738
depends, is someone paying you on a deadline for a particular piece, or are you a beg who's still learning how to draw so one day someone you met on twitter will pay you 10 bucks to draw their OC being fucked by a 10th gen charizard?

Looking at the Samsung S7, the regular version has a TFT IPS screen and the plus has an AMOLED. In comparisons between the two, I noticed the AMOLED is more vibrant but reduces or eliminates more subtle colors that can be seen on an IPS. For digital art, is it worth getting an AMOLED over an IPS?

>>5154587
AMOLED is garbage. Honestly not worth it at all.
I don't know what the color volume is like on tablet IPS screens. Theoretically AMOLED should be better.

>>5154607
Why is AMOLED worse in practice?

>>5154587
I got S7+ and like it, i think the regular one is way too small for anything.

As for the AMOLED it's great too, except it might be oversaturated, or more saturated than anything else. a picture that looks just right on my the S7+ would look a bit less colorful on the regular display. there are two color modes
>enhanced colors (the default)
>standard colors (looks like shit)

Overall i'd recommend the S7+

>>5154612
They all crush near blacks and have terrible uniformity (on darker colors). The ipad pros do full P3 so there is no reason to go AMOLED for art. Don't know about samsung IPS.

>>5154629
Nah fuck off OP, ipad doesn't have an AMOLED because it's too expensive for the iCucks. You wish you could have it on your used iPad pro you got for 300$ from a crackhead with cum crust on it.

Cope harder faggot, you never posted your work.

>>5154620
>>5154634
Post a uniform RGB (5,5,5) pattern on your AMOLED. I'll wait.

>>5154629
You know the difference between our tablets? My only has mine cum on it, while you bought it with someone elses, maybe when they release something better you can have a tab with my cum on it too.

Love Chang

>>5154638
Take your meds. I don't even own any apple products.

>>5154637
How's it like to be dabbed on OP? Must be used to it already.

I'm gonna be dabbing on you until you post your ass with an apple pencil in it and say "I'm sorry Chang please don't hurt me anymore"

>>5154646
Why not just do what was requested? Or this?
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php
But you obviously won't, because you'd btfo yourself. But yeah, being able to get absolute black is totally worth it.

>>5154680
>Why not just do what was requested? Or this?
You requested uniform 050505 you got uniform 050505

The squares though don't look right on the camera due to the black levels being really fucking good, but in person they look just fucking fantastic.

>>5154703
A uniform pattern. Preferrably on full black. Fullscreen in the dark without 8 million reflections. But fine if you don't want to prove how perfect your AMOLED is. At least post a pic of the lagom pattern.

>>5154646
Why is it so blue? Why is it so bright?

>>5154727
Here. No idea how to hide interface completely.
>>5154735
Because the camera sets its exposure and settings depending on the lighting you use.

>>5153684
That doesn't seem too bad. I wouldn't mind spending a few days drawing simple shapes for calibration purposes.

>>5154756
You don't know how to open an image full screen on your tablet?
Looks ok, but impossible to tell without it being full screen. Really would love to see if it doesn't crush near black.
Also, manual camera settings, bro.

>>5154634
>Nah fuck off OP
Why are you calling him OP?

OP recommends two Samsungs.

>>5151733
This

>>5151127
So I've got a different question than usual, I have an Xp-pen 12 and use CSP, wondering what kind of a laptop I can get on the lower end that will allow me to plug it in and still use it to draw. I hate having it on my desk with my main pc.

>>5154629
>ipad
Apple uses Samsung tech for their device displays so I doubt there's a significant difference in that matter.

>>5155036
Yeah, I see samsung advertise p3 for the s7 and ntsc for the s7+

>>5154861
>>>/pol/
You have to go back

>>5153515
Does nobody else here do this? I got the idea from one of the youtube artists, sycra or somebody.

>>5155126
I've seen people mention it here, so yea.

>>5155126
it's not new, people have been doing it since at least the intuos5 ... and it's paper, the nibs should last longer not shorter unless you're applying too much pressure. I've heard some pressure issues with those off-brand stylii where you need to push a little harder to initiate. It seems like a little thing at first but over time you're going through nibs like crazy.

What's the best arm for moving a 24 inch display tablet around?

>>5155303
yours

>>5154620
lol yeah samsung is notorious for bumping the saturation on their AMOLEDs at factory, they want to make sure the common retard compares it to other screens at the store and says, 'wow, the colors just POP' when watching their favorite youtuber. You have to dick around in the settings to get the gamma/saturation down to normal levels.

>>5155303
Get a stand not an arm you nugget. Its not a TV, you will be touching it constantly. The last thing you want with a pressure_sensitive_stylus is wobble/kickback.

I'm trying to find the best price on a Cintiq Pro 24. Is there anywhere that might have it on sale? Other than the obvious solution, amazon

>>5154861
do drumpfcucks actually believe this

what do you think of the Cintiq Pro 16 ?

>>5155303
I have the AmazonBasics Arm with the Wacom VESA Mount attachment for my Cintiq pro 24in. It’s strong enough to hold that MF up in the air and it barely moves when I paint and draw on it. Don’t waste your money on their overpriced stands

>>5155837
Designed to be non-competitive with Cintiq pro.

>>5155873
explain please

is the Cintiq Pro 24 actually worth it that much more than the 22HD ?

>>5155902
apparently the color is way better

Does anyone uses a screen protector for their ipad? I'm thinking of getting one, but don't know if it's worth it, and which one. Between the glass or paperlike protector, which is better?

A question about the S7+. When you use it as a screen for a PC, does that happen wirelessly, or through a USB cable, or are both options possible? Someone said that tilt recognition is not yet supported - does this mean there is no way at all to get the S7+ tilt to work on PC?

I'm sorry if my questions are elementary, but googling the topic gave only confusing and contradictory answers.

>>5155902
Cintiq pro actually have good color, 4k resolution and laminated screen.

The non-pro cintiqs are 1080p at best which is low resolution for having it right in your face, the screen and colors are shit too, the glass isn't glued on like on a smartphone but rather airgapped like the touchscreen on an atm.

>>5155935
I dunno lol, the whole connection feature didn't work for me at all.

But frankly you aren't going to want it anyway. Csp works on Android much better than it does on the pc thanks to complete lack of hardware acceleration or multithreading. The low latency input is also great.

>>5155947
How do you know CSP android have multithreading etc?

>>5156113
>How do you know CSP android have multithreading etc?
Because it works on a mobile meme chip faster than it does on a top shelf pc.

>>5155947
Thank you for answering, very good to hear that CSP works so well. I'd still need to use the tablet as a PC screen for things like Blender. I've heard that an update called second screen is coming in February or March, so I'll wait to see how it goes.

for those with any samsung tablet, do you use matte screen protectors? I saw that there are two kinds of pen tips that comes in the box, hard plastic and rubbery; does this means I don't have to apply any protectors since the rubbery one already gives realistic protection?

>>5156175
With S7 and S7+ there only is a rubbery tip and no spares, it's supposed to last long and mine has been fine for a month.

This rubbery tip doesn't need any screen protectors, it glides just right on slick glass lubed up with skin grease on it.

On the clean glass it feels like too much resistance for me preference

>>5156173
Ah well Blender does not support tilt, rotation or anything anyway, just pressure, and it's not about the tablet, it's just that blender lacks those features.

Also Samsung allowed third party S-Pens as well as announced the S-Pen pro (bigger and with two buttons) later.

anyone know why csp is very laggy when it comes to rotating and zooming the canvas? the brushes are perfectly fine and my computer isn't terrible either. i see streamers using seemingly bigger canvases while running obs and recording with literally zero lag

>>5156394
Its much to do with the fact that CSP is an unoptimized piece of bloated singlethreaded shit. If your CPU doesnt have high single core frequencies, itll run like shit

>>5156394
AFAIK that's just how it runs on PC, no solution that's the intended experience

So if I have a samsung tablet, I can use CSP free for 9 months?
6 months galaxy store + 3 months google play store

>>5156394
Turn off windows ink

>>5156203
>Samsung allowed third party S-Pens
Samsung never disallowed them.

>>5153738
With Photoshop and Wacom intuos pro I have to use Lazy Nezumi to keep the shoelace/condom tip lines from happening on every stroke. So I'd say it depends on if you're having problems with your tablet or not

>>5156460
i have it off. i also went through every single recommendation i could find related to lag in csp like setting at least 101% of windows text scale, making sure xboxstat.exe is not running, turning off the ruler, getting rid of the title bar, double checking it has enough ram and maybe a couple of things i'm forgetting

i know that the transform is always going to be broken garbage since that's a "feature" but it's just not as responsive as it can be for others when it comes to maneuvring the canvas and i can't seem to find why

>>5156496
What tablet are you using?

>>5156499
intuos small the old ctl-480 one

>>5156501
Ouch. Wacom doesn't play nice with CSP, something about the drivers lags that shit up. I don't know what to tell you, man. I'm using a different tablet brand on a craptop and I get zero lag on rotate and transform even with huge canvas sizes. My wacom gave me trouble with CSP too, don't know what exactly causes this shit, or if it will ever get fixed. Maybe try different drivers for your tablet until the problem stops, but that may mean dealing with worse issues than some shitty lag.

>>5156526
well thank you for helping out. hopefully i can just upgrade soon to a better tablet and there won't be any wacom induced lag

>>5151127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO_edHOf8hY

Good review for the 22 kamvas

>>5151127
I bought new huion 1060p, thoughts?

>>5156602
>I bought this thing, do I like it?

>>5156602
Should have got the hs611 for $55.

>>5156605
I think it was a good deal

>>5156602
If the usb connector doesn't spontaneously disconnect while you're drawing you should be fine.

The only problem with them is the low quality micro usb, everything else is fine.

>>5156186
>Ah well Blender does not support tilt, rotation or anything anyway, just pressure, and it's not about the tablet, it's just that blender lacks those features.
True all. I just wondered if it's going to work with PC at all if that one anon said they had no luck with the connection.

>>5155920
the matte screen protector is what you want for drawing and painting. It makes it feel like you’re drawing on a high end Cintiq Pro (I know because I have one too), it gives the surface a tooth like you’re drawing on paper. You need at least a screen protector anyway just to save the screen from random cosmetic scratches that will annoy the fuck out of you while you’re trying to work, and Apple won’t fix the screen for you unless it’s seriously cracked or shattered, and even then only if you pay for AppleCare+
I had my IPad Pro for only a month before I ended up with a noticeable deep scratch in the screen from who the fuck knows- I didn’t drop it or anything. Get a case/screen protector ASAP

>>5156607
This. HS611 is a solid cheap tablet as long as you're not left handed.

Holy shit.
I just got an s7+ and superdisplay. I was running a cintiq hybrid before and the s7+ is actually BETTER.
With 120hz and usb connection there is virtually 0 delay, at least its a very similar amount between the two. The laminated display and brightness is a breath of fresh air from the fucking dim, discolored screen of my hybrid.
Only catch is the stylus is way smaller, and the texture is way off from what im used to , and having super thin bezels actually hurts the experience as it makes it harder to go edge to edge.

>>5156779
Going back to your hybrid?

>>5153515
I thought of this idea myself.
Use Winston & Newton smooth and the felt nib works absolutely great.

>>5155318
My S5e doesn't allow for much dicking around.
I give apple a lot of shit but I like how they're pushing display technology in the right direction.
I think the newest iPhone is calibrated correctly to DCI-P3 but I'm not sure as I never trust apple crusaders too much.

>>5154917
You know what annoys the absolute crap out of me with CSP? I can't do the eraser thingy with the circle like I can in SAI but I'm too much of a lazy fuck to make a gif.

>>5156963
I'm actually very happy with the s7+, I think if I could get a more robust pen ( I think a pro pen was just announced), maybe with a hard rubber tip it would be better than my cintiq in every way.
The small bezels are semi negated by the fact that the tablet is so thin and light I can also daw with it in my lap or move it around to compensate.

Overall I think im gonna just sell my hybrid. The s7+ beats it in 90% of cases, and I doubt wacom will put out any decent new products in the next few years. The s7+ desktop experience is great, and the mobile experience is just as good (minus my favorite Adobe apps). The non plus model would be a no go imo, the size would be too small.

>>5156981
That thing is like a 1000 EUR in my country with LTE though.
I think I'll skip and buy the next generation.

>>5151155
biggest bullshit I have ever seen.
I own an artist 15.6 pro and never had these issues one single time.
A ruler on a pen display. Seriously? For rough sketching, yes, but what do you think your software has exact rulers built in? Exactly!

Yes, thos xp pen pen displays have some issues, but for that price "issues" isn't even the word

>>5156981
>s7+
Please post a picture of this test pattern: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php

okay supposedly only wacom's screen tablets are worth it
but what about the graphics tablets?

>>5157059
If you ask the schizo for stuff you plug into a computer only Wacom is worth it. He's full of shit, see >>5151733

>>5157007
>I own an artist 15.6 pro and never had these issues one single time.
Of course you don't Zhang. Why trust video evidence exposing a defect when we can take your word for it? Why would a salesman like you ever lie?

>>5157073
im not sure who's shilling who
but i assume a lot of people who swear by wacom because muh drivers think a little IT work is worth a $1000 difference

>>5157007
I have a 15.6 pro as well, I had some weird jitter on pen tilt and some cursor drift along one of the edges, literally fixed all of it in 5 minutes by messing with the red tuning screw in the stylus and reported it to xppen support to let them know their tuning was fucked and how I got it fixed. It's been more reliable than my wacoms, which is so fucked up. My only real issue is contrast ratio is kinda crap (I will give it leniency on that bc its an older device and I have a nice monitor for color/contrast checking anyways), and I seriously wish I had barrel rotation (I'm one of the few who actually uses that shit).

Ignore OP, I think he ran away from his home board and got lost.

>>5157116
Chinese shills live in this thread.

>>5157116
Wacom has very nice hardware/technology, but abhorrent build quality and drivers, and is way too expensive for something that breaks for no reason before warranty (and then good luck getting support to help you, they 100% ignored me until my tablet was out of warranty)

>>5157122
>I have a nice monitor for contrast checking
lol, no you don't

>5157128

>can't refute legitimate points
>"lol u dont have a monitor"
Bro you gotta get better bait, looks like that batch has gone bad

>I don't actually have a good monitor but if I don't give him a (You) it will seem like I do

>>5156985
I dont travel the late versions but I was able to snag a brand new s7+ 256gb model for 1k cad, I think that was a really sweet deal.

>>5157042
Here's the pic, sorry for shit quality, I tired turning all other lights in my room off but there's still a window. Yablet on max brightness on this photo btw.

>>5156427
Paint tool sai is better and does not steal from you.

>>5157154
Thanks. Hard to tell if it's the camera or screen fucking up though. How does it look irl? Is the pattern consistent? Is it clipping 3 and below?

>>5157144
Why do you want a picture of my setup so bad lmao

>>5157197
Just wanted to hear what your magic monitor is.

>>5157199
I have a BenQ for photo/video editing, though you could have just asked me, you know

>>5157207
So it only has "acceptable" contrast at best.

>>5157213
3000:1 is just "acceptable" now? Man, wacom's really gotta catch up lmao unbelievable that they're still in 750:1 - 1000:1 territory like plebs

>>5157237
>doing photo/video editing on a fucking VA panel
Lmoa, are you actually for real? I wonder why the pros haven't caught on to your genius trick.

How the fuck do you use the g-pen
>Draw line
>Now impossible to connect with another line because size different
This shit is impossible, specially with drawing hair
The worst part is none tutorial in youtube actually address the issue, they just make a little chat about pressure like you don't know what fucking pressure means or how it works, then proceed to ink their sketch at super speed

>>5157289
Practice drawing random lines while varying pressure, so your lines are thin-thick-thin again. You get the hang of it given enough practice.

Ipad pro 5th gen should be in a few months right? I'm still holding out to upgrade from my air 3

On drawing tablets without a screen, how do you keep track of where you are? As in like if I'm drawing and I go get some coffee or even just pick up the pen, how do I know where my pen will be when I set it back down? Is it just trial and error/muscle memory? This is the one thing stopping me from spending more money on a screen tablet because I feel like the disconnect will be too much to take if I set my pen back down and a random mark appears where I didn't intend it. Thanks.

>>5157477
Its just a fancy mouse. Thats literally all it is. Its a mouse you control like a pen.

>>5157477
You get used to it like everything in life

>>5157484
Is there a sort of threshold where the pen will be detected even when I'm hovering over the tablet so I can at least get a preview of where I'm about to start drawing? I'm just now jumping into digital art after a 32 years of pen and paper.

>>5157484
No one uses mouse mode. Christ.
>>5157495
Yes.

>>5157487
I never got used to the anal creampies my neighbor's dad gave me as a teenager.

>>5157498
LOL. That was epic XD

>>5157289
Did you just get an S7? Find the global pen pressure setting and make it a lot more sensitive, like max out at 45% or so.

You draw with gpen by maxing out the pressure most of the time.

>>5157477
It shows you the cursor while the pen is hovering so you can see where you're going to touch

>>5157504
>>5157497
Thanks, anons. I think I'm gonna get a regular tablet then and maybe get a screen tablet later on if I take well to digital art.

>>5157497
You missed the point somewhat

>>5157512
I don't think so. But you possibly did.

>>5151127
i got an Ipad air 4, its my first drawing tablet recently what am i in for?

>>5157582
A good tablet

>>5157582
endless amounts of cum being shot directly into your mouth

>>5157582
a slightly worse ipad pro 11
>>5157643
sounds hot

>>5157250
It's IPS you utter moron.

>>5157768
Then it isn't 3000:1 you absolute fucking braindead mongoloid.

So how are the speakers on iPad Pro compared to a standard one?

>>5157778
Nope that ones on me I got it mixed up, lmao good talking with you, very civil discussion

>>5157193
Yeah I'd say that even on max brightness 3 is barely visible if at all. Looks better than my LG 850, but slightly less colour accurate.

>>5157477
Your pen position is mapped to the screen (as long as you aren't in mouse mode, that is for psychopaths). If you put the pen in the top left corner of the tablet it will be at the top left corner of your screen.

The disconnect is very strange at first, but you get used to it entirely after about 1 week, maybe 2 weeks if you're a slow learner. Just practice drawing lines at different angles, circles, boxes, shapes, etc until you get the hang of it. If you are into rhythm games, play Osu! That shit helped me with my tablet hand eye coordination a lot.

Screen tablets are nice but if you're a poorfag you should really stick with a screenless for the time being. There are more parts which means there's so much more that could go wrong with those things, and repairs are expensive. If you have the money to burn just go for it though. Don't get a screen tablet under 15" and don't get a screenless that is super small.

>>5157127
>>5157125
so i basically can't trust anyone on tablet reviews

>>5158113
Pretty much. I think Teoh is mostly unbiased, and Lisa from Mobile Tech Reviews is really good. Everyone else is usually paid off to read a script or only give good reviews. Either that or they feel pressured into giving favorable reviews so that they can keep getting free tablets for their videos.

I was a wacomfag all my life until they started seriously declining in quality after the intuos 4 era, ever since I've been on a never ending search for a good replacement for their shit. I miss when they made good tablets and decent drivers.

>>5158113
You don't need anything else other than the Apple iPad Pro 12.9.

>>5158192
fuck off, iToddler

>>5158192
It's okay for sketching but I like painting on a 4k monitor too much to ever fully switch to a fucking tablet

>>5157520
Doubling down, cute.

No retard, its like a mouse insofar as its a USB device you use to control your cursor, as its something youll get used to extremely quickly and doesnt require such attentive thought, regarding the guys post I was responding to.

Its not literally using it as a mouse replacement or using mouse mode. Read the posts.

>>5158228
>4k monitor
>Tablet
No difference

>>5158313
Tablet as in slate tablet, not graphics tablet, you retard

>>5158315
No difference

cheapest screen tablet? chink tablet is fine.

>>5158320
must be difficult being a blind artist

>>5158328
Cheapest and decent? Xp pen 15.6 pro has been recommended a lot here, even before the schizo op.

Cheapest screen tablet period? Probably Gaomon or a small and shitty Huion, but good luck with that.

>>5158315
I had no idea that apple released 4k 32" models that support desktop programs and have great hardware! Where can I buy these? :)

>>5158341
Meant for (you)
>>5158313
>>5158320

>>5158340
my friend has the xp-pen 13 inch version, still a lot bigger than my s6 lite though and he's just using it fine (making animation). Will bigger screen will improve my drawings?

>>5158343
Thanks for the (You)s

>>5158344
It won't improve your drawings but it will improve comfort and ergonomics. The 2020 version of the 13" Huion is alright, old one is really janky. If you do go for the huion just make sure you get it off of Amazon (they have the best return policy). Huion doesn't give a shit if you get a faulty tablet. Amazon at least lets you return for any reason in the first month.

>>5158357
alright, thanks!

>>5158381
Oh whoops just saw you typed 13" xp pen not huion. It's a good tablet it's just too small a screen for me personally and the contrast ratio is a little low (800:1 as opposed to 1000:1 in better tablets)

>>5158113
>so i basically can't trust anyone on tablet reviews
Notice how Zhang conveniently made an exception for tablet reviewers that shill his products more than ever: >>5158174

>>5158609
I said Teoh is *mostly* unbiased, I've seriously started to question his xp pen reviews ever since he partnered with them for the innovator 16 which is the worst tablet they've made yet, and gave that piece of shit a glowing review and demo. And Mobile Tech Lisa actually shits on Huion and Xp pen more than wacom, don't you ever lump Lisa in with the shills again.

Nice try schizOP, but you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Maybe you ahould go back home to /pol/

https://youtu.be/q0uPoa-9czg

My Kamvas 16 Pro test. It's a solid tablet for the price. I'm back to my intuos pro M tho. Personal preference. I'd still recommend the Kamvas to anyone interested.

Stimulus check is coming and wondering what kind of Cintiq or something along the lines of that I should get. I currently have a large intos.

>>5157154
Yeah it's not as ridicilously expensive if you don't get the LTE model.
But I use my tablet as my phone.
I don't really have a use for a "real phone" so I want the 5G model.
But I don't see that much of a reason to upgrade from my S5e as I draw on my PC anyway.

>>5157177
steal?

Does anyone know of any good companies that make paperlike or matte screen protectors for the iPad? I've been using one of the cheap plastic ones and it feels like I'm drawing on a block of ice.

>>5158877
He thinks not opting out of crash reports means they are stealing his data. Shhhhh, don't engage with the schizo

>>5158192
>iPad
Good hardware but fuck being stuck in the Apple ecosystem and their closed OS. Not worth the price they're asking when Samsung offers comparative devices with their own perks for significantly less.

>>5158975
Seething porfag

I loved the old cintiq 22" in my university.

Which one should I get? Should I just get one of those 5 year old things for 400 bucks or is there some new thing I could invest in?

How much should I pay for a
>Cintiq 22HD
Am I looking for the modelnumber DTK-2200 here? Is there a better model number? I used one of these big older cintiqs for a few months straight and it was the best time of my life I think.

>>5158877
Clip studio paint sends copy of your art to their servers and they have free license.

>rgb 000 is black
If you desire grey you will have to color it grey and not use outdated display panels.

To anyone in here looking for a good panel.
VA Panels and OLEDs color vibrancy, range and HDR capability is tenfold greater. Yet they are not more expensive than those highly advertised super duper IPS Dell ultrasharps.
My goto recommendation is the benq ew3270u because it beats every other montior when it comes to color and contrast and accuracy (delta e) in objective measurements. Then it also is 4k and HDR due to the great color range, superb contrast and high brightness/vibrancy.
IPS is outdated. That is the objective truth. Just like Cathode Ray displays got replaced by TN displays, IPS alread have been and even VA Panels will soon be fully replaced by OLED.
To anyone else not looking to buy a screen but understand this better, get familiar with color volume and 10 bit and
>srec 2020
or read a full benchmark on tftcentral to get a sense for what measurements you can look out for in screens instead of relying on marketing terms

>>5159768
FOOKIN SAVED BRUH. EPIC XD

>>5159779
Just read through the thread there seems to a be a potential conflict you are refering to.
The best IPS displays have a 1200:1 Contrast ratio, simply a limitation of this method of display technology. Average VA Displays start at 3500:1 and go up to about ~6000:1
I am talking about benchmarked values only here and all my knowledge comes from benchmarks. Marketing trained brains need not apply

>>5159779
dooby dooby doo doo dee doo

>>5159807
Go back to /g/, retard.

>>5159834
So they can recommend me consoomer hardware? That place is overrun by too-inept-for-google-clownworldgeneration

>>5159847
Seems like that's what you're into, so I guess?

>>5159859
Explain yourself and why you have something relevant to say to the hundreds of people reading these threads for an overview of what to get. ?

>Begin getting into digital art, since internet is slow and xbox live is running out
>find huion h610 pro on ebay for total (including shipping) $50
>fuck it, I have money to spare and buy it
>comes in mail and I use it for a bit
>Install is fine but cant resize the tablet setting screen to possibly adjust settings
>Fuck it, I got what I paid for also know Im NGMI
Does anyone know how to fix that?
Am I SOL and should just use it as an armor plate trauma pad?

>>5160018
Go into your display settings and fuck around with the resolution.

>>5160018
You might be able to up your resolution aka overclock your screen. Gamers did this when you couldnt just increase the render resolution. It requires you to create a resolution profile, look up guides on how to do that.
You might be able to set dpi scaling to below 100%
You can connect a second screen
Try Windows key + arrow while the window is highlighted to move it around

>>5160014
Ok, I'll repeat myself then.
No professionals use them. No one markets them for color work. That should be enough.
TNs can measure just as well as an IPS panel for sRGB so why get an IPS panel if you just do web shit?

>>5160057
The benchmarks speak for themselves, I dont know about your personality cult or firms with unlimited budgets. Theres probably some highly specialised Panel type only avaible to millionaires theyll use instead.

Are you gonna perpetrate these self made beliefs so you can hold onto outdated facts forever?
>TN
>sRGB
DogBarfsIntoBed.webp

Color vibrancy/volume is a factor too you know? No, not oversaturation, vibrancy. Happy to help. This is the last time I entertain you, if you want to know more, read a benchmark on an older monitor to learn more about when the change from IPS to VA happend https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/benq_bl3200pt.htm and what values are relevant for discussion

>>5160071
lol, fuck off and die

>>5160072
Maybe if you concentrate really hard and squint your eyes you'll see colour in your mind someday. If its in srgb and TN Panel quality you know you can forget about it , forgive yourself for polluting the internet in your earlier years and move on.

>>5160084

>>5160029
>>5160037
Nothing seems to be fixing it

>>5160093
Use TAB to cycle through the buttons.

>>5160103
didnt work m8

how long does it usually take to get use to using a screened tablet? my lines look janky compared to using paper or my screenless one.

>>5162187
To attune to the slicker surface, probably a week or two. The parallax is something different all-together. Some people get used to it, After a year i couldnt and went back to my trust screenless. the good thing about using the screen though is it made me realize how responsive and ... not sure how to put it ... less in the way a screenless is.

>>5162187
I got used to it within a few hours but it was less about actual drawing than the workflow of using express keys for navigation, shortcuts. I didn't have any issues getting used to the drawing experience itself, it is a screen tablet after all.

>>5162187
get used?
A week? I dont know your skill level, i can only speak for " a little better than totally unexperienced kindergardener"
I draw better on a GOOD Cintiq simply because I can zoom in or delete lines.
But regular graphite is so super accurate that few screens can even come close

The remarkable might be something for you if you desire paper of all else. It has an eink display and no software in the way and extreme battery times. Its a different sort of device.
>pic relatd
should set you back 200-300$ if you buy the remarkable 1 used.

Just bought a Huion HS610. It's pretty great so far and does everything my old intuos pro did. Initially I was worried there would be pressure sensitivity issues, but it appears those were fixed. I can post examples later if anyone wants them. I posted in an earlier thread before buying and was worried about the pressure sensitivity but received no answers, so hopefully this helps someone. Here's proof I'm not a Chinese if that keeps the schizo OP off my back.

ive been working on a 12'9 ipad for a while but looking for something bigger on pc. Any recommendations?

budget around 1k

>>5162358
>I can post examples later if anyone wants them
Please do, fren. I assume you're talking about these issues?

https://digitalarttabletguides.wordpress.com/2019/04/05/why-i-do-not-recommend-the-huion-hs610/

>>5162358
The HS610 is a pretty good tablet if you're someone who wants to start off with a mid sized tablet and are not willing to pay the $400 intuos pro equivalent. If you ever want to upgrade to a wacom, you could go straight to a cintiq 16.

>>5162358
Why the HS610? The HS611 is updated and better.

>>5162483
I like the wheel, don't like the HS611 touch controls, and have heard there are problems of lines leaving a hook on the 611. Also it's ugly, almost twice as expensive, and only came out 9 months later.

>>5162412
Yes, that post specifically scared the shit out of me. Felt like russian roulette ordering the tablet. I'll post strokes later tonight or tomorrow morning.

hs611 is on sale on aliexpress for $56 right now, but possible only for like 7 hours more or so. Ships from the land of the free and from within yurop as well (they might charge you €5 or so for shipping if you're not in germany). You should probably pay with paypal if you can.

Please tell friend and buy many for loved one!
t. chang

>>5162501
Yeah, this is how I feel about most of the newer tablets since no one bothers to do thorough tests like that anymore. Actually bought a used wacoom for this reason.

Thoughts on the Huion Inspiroy Keydial KD200? It's being launched and sold with a $20 discount for a total of $149, at least in the Huion official store.

You don't like Huion?
Never had any issues with mine

>>5162538
I don't really see the point, and the active area is smaller than on other cheaper tablets.
Also, fucking christ. Who picked this fucking skelly model.

>>5162541
Of course you haven't, Zhang.

>>5162394
Save for a Cintiq Pro 24.

Don't waste your money on a cheap big tablet, you will regret it when you realize how much worse drawing feels than an iPad.

>>5162541
i have a friend who has a huion and he says its always going dead temporarily and he has to restart it.

>>5162567
This but unironically. I havent repaired my PC because I don't care to return to my xp pen nor screenless wacom, apple pen and ipad is just too good

>>5162568
that was my experience as well

>>5162265
Too bad the remarkable sucks horribly for drawing

Do people generally prefer Intuos M or L size tablets to work on a 27 inch 1440p screen? I do have the space to just barely fit an L size tablet onto my desk but I kind of fear that it might not be quite as comfortable to use an an M size tablet.

>>5162674
Intuos pros are sized retardedly. The medium gets you a much small active area on a widescreen monitor than even cheap chinkshit tablets.
I believe most would go for the larger one.

>>5162674
it _should_ be more comfortable since you'll be able to draw with your shoulders/back. But the L is cumbersome/awkard to use all the time. I started with a large for years before moving down to an M. I like it better since the tablet edge doesn't jab my in the stomach or legs.

>>5162674
Yes, because size doesn't matter as much for screenless. Your digital workspace scales with the size of your monitor.

Screenless is better because you're not hunching yourself over a screen and destroying your posture.

New thread:

>>5162720
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>>5162713
Large takes up too much desk space.

>>5162674
Medium intuos pro is a very comfy size for drawing. If the screen is mapped to the tablet oddly so that you draw a perfect circle with a template and it ends up as an oval, you just mess with your settings.

Large is okay but it is super huge and I found myself only using a small part of it most of the time.

>>5162726
We're still on page 1, bro what the fuck

>>5162756
>Large is okay but it is super huge
Intuos3 A3 wide says hi.

>>5162759
OP must fear the thought of somebody else making the thread